[Q] Novice Programmer wondering which device to buy... - General Questions and Answers

I am looking to begin making apps for the Android platform. I know my way around coding for it pretty well but the time has come to get past the emulator (great tool!) and get my hands on some hardware. I have narrowed it down to two choices, and they are years apart from each other.
The $200 Nook Tablet and the $500 Asus Transformer TF101 (with dock)
I know it's like comparing apples to pears and such, but I wanted to know: Is the Nook Tablet ENOUGH to make apps? I assume to do such a thing, it would be best to get it 'rooted' so I am not restricted by B&N. Obviously $200 sounds much better than $500 but is the Asus Transformer worth it from a development standpoint?
As far as use past developing small games, I would watch netflix and surf the web occasionally. Maybe read some books but I still like the feel of actual paper for that so it's not a HUGE selling point.
Thanks a bunch guys. If this question has been asked before, I apologize but I couldn't find such a comparison between two day and night devices. If it does exist, I shall hang my head in shame

The nook tablet will give you your basic needs and should get you where you want to go. The Prime on the other hand does have better support and compatibility in development and IMO is overall a better device. In the terms you need the tablet for, it seems the Nook would be a better choice (especially with the price). If you needed it for stuff like heavy web browsing, videos, hardcore gaming, etc., the Prime would obviously be the better choice.

Thanks for the reply. Just wanted to make something clear: I wouldn't get the prime, but rather the TF101 (the first transformer) with the dock (IMO it needs the dock to make it worth the money to me anyway).
Also, I didn't think about "hardcore" gaming, I thought only smaller games existed. I would be interested if an MMO was developed but fat chance of a large scale MMO on Android... unless I am missing something? Probably am.

CritK said:
Thanks for the reply. Just wanted to make something clear: I wouldn't get the prime, but rather the TF101 (the first transformer) with the dock (IMO it needs the dock to make it worth the money to me anyway).
Also, I didn't think about "hardcore" gaming, I thought only smaller games existed. I would be interested if an MMO was developed but fat chance of a large scale MMO on Android... unless I am missing something? Probably am.
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Oh, my bad, I misread your post. The Transformer also has larger development too. If you want though, you could consider the Prime (lower that $500 and depending on where you buy it, the dock included as well). Yes, it seems you are missing something. Here is one of the best large scale MMORPG's for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gameloft.android.ANMP.GloftMMHM&hl=en. Another good one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sts.pl&hl=en.

Another thing to think about would be just buying a phone to use if having a tablet isn't critical. The galaxy nexus GSM can be had for $300 new from Google for example and is a great reference/ Dev device. Just another thing to consider.
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Very interesting. Swaying towards the NT 8GB then. I also did a quick search for the prime + dock new for $500 and came up empty handed. Any links?
On the phone topic, I like my Samsung Juke very much, for some reason I don't like mixing my phone as anything else but a phone. Plus monthly billing being so expensive and such... :crying:

CritK said:
Very interesting. Swaying towards the NT 8GB then. I also did a quick search for the prime + dock new for $500 and came up empty handed. Any links?
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Found it sold separately. Tab - http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-TF300-T-B1-BL-10-1-Inch-Tablet/dp/B007P4YAPK/ref=pd_cp_pc_0
Dock - http://www.amazon.com/Multi-Functio...TF8&qid=1340335209&sr=1-1&keywords=tf300+dock
A bit over $500 ($12).

Thanks for the link friend.
Any other opinions, or is the consensus that the NT will work for basic programming but dropping the dough on the Asus will be a better option?

try the nook tablet.

Upon closer inspection of those links, it's for the TF300 not the Prime. Is the TF300 that big of an upgrade than the TF101? I found the TF101 + dock for $450 so if it is not that big of deal, I'd prefer to spend the lesser amount of money.
Still considering the NT as well.

CritK said:
Thanks for the link friend.
Any other opinions, or is the consensus that the NT will work for basic programming but dropping the dough on the Asus will be a better option?
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They will both work fine (just that compatibility may be better on the Prime).
CritK said:
Upon closer inspection of those links, it's for the TF300 not the Prime. Is the TF300 that big of an upgrade than the TF101? I found the TF101 + dock for $450 so if it is not that big of deal, I'd prefer to spend the lesser amount of money.
Still considering the NT as well.
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The TF300 is the Pad but is still as powerful as the Prime. The TF101 has a Tegra 2 (dual core) processor while the TF300 has a Tegra 3 (4 + 1 core processor - Quad core plus a power saving core) processor. The TF101 can get you where you're going though (and for basic things - so could the NT).

We're talking 250% percent price difference and quite little in usability.
I say Nook Tablet, and the 300$ for worse times.
(or beer)

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[Q] Choosing the right tablet

Hey everyone I haven't got a clue about tablets which is why I'm asking you guys which tablet I should get. I need it mostly for school (ebooks, music, play videos online, etc). Speed isn't my biggest concern but I don't want to go back to Windows Me speeds either . Money is probably my biggest concern and I really don't want to spend a fortune on it mainly because my college funds are draining my money and my soul. Any advice would be appreciated .
If this is the wrong forum for this i apologize.
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Hey everyone I haven't got a clue about tablets which is why I'm asking you guys which tablet I should get. I need it mostly for school (ebooks, music, play videos online, etc). Speed isn't my biggest concern but I don't want to go back to Windows Me speeds either . Money is probably my biggest concern and I really don't want to spend a fortune on it mainly because my college funds are draining my money and my soul. Any advice would be appreciated .
If this is the wrong forum for this i apologize.
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so you want a honeycomb tablet or ANY tablet in general? is 450e too much? you want a good battery life? screen size 7 or 10 inch? you want future android updates? you want good xda community? tell more and i will answer
wow lol
well honeycomb would be very nice but im assuming price skyrockets w/ it so a general tablet would be perfectly okay one i would prefer to be upgradeable. I would like a good xda community because i'm sure ill try to load something on it and brick it. Battery life isn't a big concern granted it doesn't die out in like an hour. Screen size... 10in would be nice but i wouldn't mind a 7in. As for price I'd like to keep it under 300-400 but as i look up tablets it doesn't sound reasonable lool
Xoom!
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wow lol
well honeycomb would be very nice but im assuming price skyrockets w/ it so a general tablet would be perfectly okay one i would prefer to be upgradeable. I would like a good xda community because i'm sure ill try to load something on it and brick it. Battery life isn't a big concern granted it doesn't die out in like an hour. Screen size... 10in would be nice but i wouldn't mind a 7in. As for price I'd like to keep it under 300-400 but as i look up tablets it doesn't sound reasonable lool
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well here are 3 tablets that i recommend
dell streak 7
pros: cheap (on amazon 300e) , good xda community, you can get working honeycomb via xda, it has tegra 2 so its powerful (fast), 7 inch screen with gorilla glass
cons: bad battery life (average 3 hours when used), no official updates anymore.
samsung galaxy tab
pros: also pretty cheap (350e on amazon), also good xda community, can get honeycomb via xda, you can make calls with it, also 7 inch screen and gorilla glass, good battery life, 3g.
cons: single core A8 processor (not so fast), no official updates anymore.
asus transformer
pros: genuine 3.0 tablet, will get all coming updates very fast, good community, GREAT screen, 10 inch wit gorilla glass screen, VERY FAST, good built quality, awesome battery life (+9 hours), everything in this device is awesome
cons: expensive (450e (altought its cheap for a 3.0 tablet)), some devices have bad speakers.
so what do you say?
EDIT: and yes i own a transformer, thats why i love it
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Xoom!
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xoom is not cheap i recommend transformer
Transformer is having tons of problems from what ive heard, the good models are very good, but youre taking a shot buying one. Iconia's are also having problems but not as much. I would recommend those two though. If you dont need SD card or usb or any of that shabang, you can get a galaxy tab 8.9, they are relatively cheap, and have the perfect screen size (8.9" )
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Transformer is having tons of problems from what ive heard, the good models are very good, but youre taking a shot buying one. Iconia's are also having problems but not as much. I would recommend those two though. If you dont need SD card or usb or any of that shabang, you can get a galaxy tab 8.9, they are relatively cheap, and have the perfect screen size (8.9" )
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really my transformer works great, no speaker issue or any else issues... and i dont recommend samsungs tab (10/8.9) because it has touchwiz skin on top of honeycomb so the updates are going to take ages and as for iconia tab, it has locked bootloader and not so fast updates. asus has very fast updates, good support, much more developement than any of 3.0 tabs and no skin with honeycomb
i gotta say im quite impressed w/ the transformer price but if a lot of them are not working up to par that is quite disappointing. A random question - what's the difference between a tablet pc and a tablet? Is it just the keyboard addition? does the transformer come w/ the keyboard or is that a separate purchase?
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i gotta say im quite impressed w/ the transformer price but if a lot of them are not working up to par that is quite disappointing. A random question - what's the difference between a tablet pc and a tablet? Is it just the keyboard addition? does the transformer come w/ the keyboard or is that a separate purchase?
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dont know whats the difference between those 2 but the transformer is 450e without the dock and 550 with the dock...
Maybe a Advent Vega?
Gotta throw in my 2 cents. I looked and Transformer and Xoom, but didn't like the price. Started hearing about the Advent Vega (Point of View Mobii), and that was my choice. Solid machine, less expensive, etc.
Honeycomb looks great and fast!
Tablet NVIDIA Tegra 250 1GHz Dual Core
Multi-touch LCD 10.1" 1024x600
RAM 512MB + 512MB NAND
WiFi
Bluetooth
GPS
3G slot (on some devices)
USB 2.0, HDMI
1.3Mpix webcamera
microSDHC slot
Pros
Unbrickable (so they say, I've flashed alot of ROM's on it)
Cons
Only 1 gb memory (512 OS, 512 apps) but SD cards up to 32 gb
Viewing angles of the screen
Here is a link to a Vega forum post, watch the video.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040966
Let me know if you have any specific questions.
J
The Xoom is crap and way too expensive! Don't even consider it. If money wasn't a problem and you wanted a tablet, I would go with the iPad 2 or Samsung 10.1. Tablet PCs are obviously more expensive than tablets because you're actually buying a computer and not some toy. The best and relatively cheap Tablet PC is the HP TM2T. Keep in mind there are some tablet PCs upwards of 2k. Outside of the iPad, 10.1 and true tablets I wouldn't recommend anything. I think you would just be wasting money.
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ACis0014 said:
The Xoom is crap and way too expensive! Don't even consider it. If money wasn't a problem and you wanted a tablet, I would go with the iPad 2 or Samsung 10.1. Tablet PCs are obviously more expensive than tablets because you're actually buying a computer and not some toy. The best and relatively cheap Tablet PC is the HP TM2T. Keep in mind there are some tablet PCs upwards of 2k. Outside of the iPad, 10.1 and true tablets I wouldn't recommend anything. I think you would just be wasting money.
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I would also recommend that you go to your local Best Buy and play with the tabs first hand. I did not too long in order to see HC for myself and really did like it, it is gorgeous. The Moto Xoom felt great in hands, but its screen sucked. It seemed faster than the Iconia A500 which also has the Tegra 2. That was odd. The Iconia had the nicer looking screen. I have had the original iPad and VS Gtab, but believe 7 inches is the way to go. Both 9.7 and 10.1 are IMO too big, but most people seem to disagree. Good luck!
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I would also recommend that you go to your local Best Buy and play with the tabs first hand. I did not too long in order to see HC for myself and really did like it, it is gorgeous. The Moto Xoom felt great in hands, but its screen sucked. It seemed faster than the Iconia A500 which also has the Tegra 2. That was odd. The Iconia had the nicer looking screen. I have had the original iPad and VS Gtab, but believe 7 inches is the way to go. Both 9.7 and 10.1 are IMO too big, but most people seem to disagree. Good luck!
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Third post in a row LOL...I just saw something and this might be of interest:
http://www.androidcentral.com/hands...mpaign=Feed:+androidcentral+(Android+Central)
1) I second the Advent Vega recommendation. I am typing on mine now and LOVE it.
2) I just broke the chain.
Which ROM are you using? I love the keyboard with VegaComb 1.6.
htc
Has anybody used new HTC tablet ? any feedback ?
first of all let me just say thank you to all of you - i appreciate ALL the feedback and device suggestions - i went and tried out a lot of the tablets. I have to say the xoom was most disappointing (quite heavy didnt feel right). The Advent Vega is really nice but i had a chance to get the asus eee transformer w/ keyboard at $350 so I jumped it and grabbed it. Thank you all for all your input it was all read and much appreciated
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first of all let me just say thank you to all of you - i appreciate ALL the feedback and device suggestions - i went and tried out a lot of the tablets. I have to say the xoom was most disappointing (quite heavy didnt feel right). The Advent Vega is really nice but i had a chance to get the asus eee transformer w/ keyboard at $350 so I jumped it and grabbed it. Thank you all for all your input it was all read and much appreciated
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You welcome and that's an AWESOME deal!
Good choice!!!! The Transformer is the obvious choice with the keyboard dock, especially if you plan to use it for school too. As you might have guessed, I have one too for much the same reason.....except school was out for me about 16years ago, however, I wanted something I can enjoy as a tablet but also use for work e.t.c
Once again, good choice!

[Q] Is it worth it?

hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this), and just generally nice specs. But my real question is, is this thing a piece of complete crap? it's off brand for things i buy usually, but I've seen generally good reviews. I've also been looking at the Transformer and the Xoom. Thank you all for the help.
considering that you can get one on Ebay for under $250, I would say yes, it's most definitely worth it.
Even with Froyo roms, it's a very useful tablet that will probably do the things that you want it to do. Yes, the screen angles are not ideal, but they are acceptable (in my opinion)
Put it this way, is buying a transformer, or Xoom for almost twice as much going to be just as useless when the newest tablets come out for Christmas?
I believe that it's a question of perception. What do you want to use it for?
and who knows, when Ice Cream Sandwich gets released, it may be easier to port to the G-Tablet than Honeycomb.
Well the transformer is only $150 more.. ill look up a comparison between the two. That was the other one I am still honestly considering
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gobluewolverines4 said:
Well the transformer is only $150 more.. ill look up a comparison between the two. That was the other one I am still honestly considering
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I guess my point was, is the transformer going to be just as obsolete when the new tablets arrive? Nvidea is releasing a new tegra platform, that will basically make anything running on a tegra2 old hat. This would include the Xoom, Transformer, Iconia, as well as the G-Tablet, Adam, Vega, etc. These things depreciate faster than a car driven off the dealer's lot. Originally what, $450 when they were released? I bought mine for $300 (with a few extras) on Ebay. now they are retailing for $250 in Woot deals and Tiger Direct, while used ones on Ebay are plummeting down to nearly $200. When the new Tegra devices are released, I suspect that a G-tablet can be bought for $100 used.
What I mean, is why not save the $150 now, to put toward a better tablet down the line...The g-tablet will at least give you a less expensive introduction to the android tablet world, while still being a quite useful tool.
I would just hate to see somebody spend more money on a similar tablet that will cause them buyers remorse in 3 months or so. Of course, if you have the cash to burn, then go ahead and buy what you really want...for most people, that's an iPad...jk
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I guess my point was, is the transformer going to be just as obsolete when the new tablets arrive? Nvidea is releasing a new tegra platform, that will basically make anything running on a tegra2 old hat. This would include the Xoom, Transformer, Iconia, as well as the G-Tablet, Adam, Vega, etc. These things depreciate faster than a car driven off the dealer's lot. Originally what, $450 when they were released? I bought mine for $300 (with a few extras) on Ebay. now they are retailing for $250 in Woot deals and Tiger Direct, while used ones on Ebay are plummeting down to nearly $200. When the new Tegra devices are released, I suspect that a G-tablet can be bought for $100 used.
What I mean, is why not save the $150 now, to put toward a better tablet down the line...The g-tablet will at least give you a less expensive introduction to the android tablet world, while still being a quite useful tool.
I would just hate to see somebody spend more money on a similar tablet that will cause them buyers remorse in 3 months or so. Of course, if you have the cash to burn, then go ahead and buy what you really want...for most people, that's an iPad...jk
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Wow. Very excellent explanation. I see now. Yes I will probably soon be purchasing the g tab!
PS: screw the ipad
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gobluewolverines4 said:
hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this).
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Honeycomb is not completely functional on the gtab (as of now). It is missing the Honeycomb specific drivers from Nvidia (aka full hardware acceleration, high def video).
If you really care about Honeycomb you should get the transformer IMO.
Although, I am quite happy with froyo based ROMs
Others are right in saying that quad core Tegra 3s are around the corner, Tegra 2 prices might drop by the end of the year. Given how Nvidia and Viewsonic acted regarding the gtab, I foresee support for Tegra 2s dropping drastically as newer hardware gets released.
Yeah the almost fully functioning honeycomb on here is fine for me. Should be ordering my g tab this week!
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Hello, I wrote a quick review for some guys that I work with. I am sure there are many reviews of the gtablet, but...
Here are my conclusions so far;
This thing is about the same size as the Xoom, and thicker than the IPAD. It is definitely not as sexy.
The screen is OK. It is not a high quality screen like you find on the other devices.
The processor is great, and the memory is sufficient. Things move pretty quick.
The ROM out of the box REALLY sucked. I was hoping to just deal with it, but Google had not approved the tablet so there were NO Google apps at all. Not acceptable. It took me a couple of hours to learn (last night till around 1:00am), but I replaced the stock ROM with a hacked ROM with everything I wanted.
This thing is really just a big Android phone with no phone or GPS.
I loaded up my Sony Reader software, downloaded all of my books, and then imported them into a DRM capable reader that is better.
Although there are some ROMs that support Gingerbread screens, I think I will stick with this 2.2 (or is it 2.3) Android feel.
What will I use it for?
Reading ebooks, PDFs (Scientific American, Maximum PC)
Google apps – maps, search
Kayak, hotels.com apps
Games (mostly for the kids) – I got Android Market to work
Web Browsing / some forum reading (via Tapatalk)
Personal email reading and contacts (no work email will be set up)
Maybe occasional Skype and Gotomeeting (camera sucks, so mostly audio)
News and weather
Of course, with the exception of reading the ebooks, I would always use the Macbook Pro if it were available.
So the speed and memory makes this all possible, but the experience (screen, size, build) is not equivalent to the expensive tablets.
Biggest complaints?
No GPS
Screen is not easy to see at an angle
I needed to root the thing to make it useful, which means I now need to stay on top of that and update it manually
The 10.1 device is a bit bigger / bulkier than I expected – the weight is the same as the ipad I believe.
I “can” watch videos on it (even 1080p), but moving the files would be a drag… it uses a microSD card that I would need to pop ion an adapter, or I could use the USB connection. Maybe I can find a way to do it with wifi or Bluetooth.
No USB charging… WTF??? It comes with a separate adapter that has to plug into the wall…
The screen is a 1024x600 which is similar to most pads, but it is really inferior to the Macbook Pro, and there is just something that is “fuzzy” about it.
Biggest positives?
Cheap - $269 delivered (no tax or shipping)
Fast
Should do what I want…
Next Steps…
See how much I actually use it for anything other than ebooks. If I do end up needing it more than I think, I would consider the Asus Transformer or something else new in the next year or so.
Hope this helps,
R
gobluewolverines4 said:
hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this), and just generally nice specs. But my real question is, is this thing a piece of complete crap?
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The screen is complete crap.
You should look hard for something with a better screen around $300-$350. If you can find it, get it.
And I *like* my Gtab - but its really just for kicking around and messing with roms and android. The screen really is killer bad unless you use it only at night, head on
Honeycomb works, and works well, as well as you could hope for unsupported xda rom hacking - ie, no netflix, no Hardware acceleration, occasional stand on your head workarounds, and the possibility of sudden death... well, ok, not that last one.
Bottom line: if you can find it for $100-$200, and want to play with roms, and tweak, and screw with it a lot to get it to be as good as a $400 one except for the horrible screen that cannot be fixed, YES, this is your tablet.
If you want a tablet to take out of the box and use, with rom updates from the manufacturer, and a screen you can read ebooks off of, this is NOT your tablet. Even for free.
So should I just get the transformer? Ah so many decisions!
Well I'm literally about to go to fry electronics and ill test out some there. Thanks !
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So should I just get the transformer?
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For $400, I'd say yeah.
Better screen, 1Kx800 resolution, 2x the ram. Yeah, looks like that's all worth $120.
Oh... and a GPS too.
Oh, and Honeycomb 3.1 from Asus. Plus lots of XDA love it seems.
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So should I just get the transformer? Ah so many decisions!
Well I'm literally about to go to fry electronics and ill test out some there. Thanks !
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I think the main question is what you want the tablet for or what to do with it.
A cheap $250-300 laptop has so much more computing power and practical use than any tablet...just a bit bulkier.
The tablet market will have much more offerings and better with faster cpus and such..just have to wait a bit.
I bought my gtab from woot 4/2011 for $275. I have installed several ROMs on it. They all are pretty good with their own pluses and minuses.
I'm currently on Flashback 5.4 HC: it looks nice and works well. Gmail, Talk - w/o video; G-Voice, Maps, Lattitude, Earth etc all work. You Tube works; a bunch of games works. The big screen is better than the phone size screen. Nice quick weather apps. Nice calendar.
What it cannot do is replace the screen and functionality of my desktop for real work.
If you can find a cheap Gtab and play with ROM's, flashing, androids quirks etc - jsut for the fun of it, then get a gtab. Fully flashable with great recovery process. Almost 99.99% Non-brickable. Get a used one for play and test.
If you want a decent a functional tablet w/o hassle, get an I-pad2.
I have read many complaints about the viewing angle of the screen, but I have had my tablet for months and I have no complaints. It has replaced my planner for work and is great for watching movies, not sharing with my neighbor.

[Q] Will you be getting Asus Prime?

News are out with most specs detailed about the Asus Prime. Will you be getting one?
In my personal opinion, Asus Transformer is better looking (brown is more inviting than cold aluminum), it has better proportions, it doesn't look like iPad2, and 4 cores aren't necessary.
Why aren't 4 cores necessary? Because tablets aren't PCs. They are consumption devices and they are used for couch surfing and Gizmodo reading.
Games don't make sense on tablets either because the dynamics are so cumbersome. So even if the Prime will be pulling games like Shadowgun, is that really important? Every game I've played I ended up getting tired of trying to properly position myself so that I can used my hands for both controlling the game and holding my tablet.
Anyways, Transformer pulls HD video and really... what more could you need?
well, if it gets more power it needs more power...
so battery would be the first problem...
and, sorry, i dont need more power
(had my TF two weeks
and will you get the new keyboard ?? i have the keyboard of the TF101, never used it..
I'm waiting to pick one up, because after getting my tf101 at launch, the old lady wants her own.
Unless someone wants to buy my rooted b50 TF101/dock for the price 9of a Prime, I will not be getting the Prime. For some of the tasks I use my TF for, the Tegra 3 would probably be useful. For the cost it is just not worth it. If there is a follow up to the Prime next year or ditto the year after, I will ****ly then u0grade to the then current device. I'm waiting for the 3rd or 4th Gen, and to see if there [i[will[/i] be, before I invest further.
Right now the only reason I could see to upgrade would be if they blew off giving us ICS, and by the time it is worth it to me to upgrade for that, both the Prime and Android 4.0 will be outdated.
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well, if it gets more power it needs more power...
so battery would be the first problem...
and, sorry, i dont need more power
(had my TF two weeks
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ACtually if you read the technical reviews of Tegra3, then you'd know by now, that the prime (tablet alone) will last longer on battery than the TF101 - well it's just paperform, so the first tests will reveal.
But I won't get one, maybe the summer next fall
just bought a secondhand transformer so I don't really see me getting another tablet until next year.
The answer is: maybe. I probably could buy it for my company (less tax to pay then) but I won't unless it's really much better than Transformer in regards to playing movies for example. As a game developer I also don't want to have the fastest device out there so I can test on more slower devices (I bought old used phone for that reason). But I want to make 3D games next year, so maybe targeting Tegra3 with it won't be so stupid, I don't know yet.
Well ... I really want to get one, but I will wait until it has been rooted, a 3G version is available, and other Tegra 3 Tablets are released, so the price will drop!
...But the problem when waiting for Tech always is, that you are then dealing with an maybe outdated product ... maybe I will end up getting a Windows 8 Tablet
The Transformer Prime should be getting Windows 8 / ICS Dual-Boot ... I would buy it immediately.
As I'm going to install ubuntu on my TF soon (I tried it before when it was not simpleton-friendly and you had to fix wifi and stuff yourself and I was too lazy to figure it out ), I doubt I'll need a TF prime to satisfy my curiosity with new things. But to be honest, I like the copper/brown feel more because when I see that kind of metallic finish, it just brings that disgusting metal on metal sound to my ears (or head, since technically I don't actually hear it, just the memory of it).
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As I'm going to install ubuntu on my TF soon (I tried it before when it was not simpleton-friendly and you had to fix wifi and stuff yourself and I was too lazy to figure it out ), I doubt I'll need a TF prime to satisfy my curiosity with new things. But to be honest, I like the copper/brown feel more because when I see that kind of metallic finish, it just brings that disgusting metal on metal sound to my ears (or head, since technically I don't actually hear it, just the memory of it).
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I agree, the brown is so much friendly looking. The aluminum is so cold and unpleasent, it also looks quite bad - not to mention how easily it should scratch.
The current transformer's back is so nice, its not cold, it doesn't scratch, its easier to grip and most importantly it's not a fingerprint magnet!
I would like a pink version. Pink is my favorite color.
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I would like a pink version. Pink is my favorite color.
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Lol... I'm sure you could use one of the disassembly guides, and then have the case professionally spray painted.
The current dock keyboard won't work on the new prime?? I thought they said it would?
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I have seen a lot of things saying it won't. Yet another reason I won't be doing business with Asus anymore
I'm passing. My TF does all I need it to do right now and I cannot see a compelling reason on the horizon to dump what works.
I got my tf on launch day. I think the prime is exactly what I want build wise. Much thinner, I like the look over the LV-ish brown, dock is slimmer. I really can't wait for it. People are saying its more expensive but its really the same price. It starts at 32 gb instead 16gb for 499 which was what the 32gb tf 1 was. I wont get it on launch day (can't afford it but would if I could)
When I got the dock for the tf I never thought I'd use for anything more than battery power and a stand to watch movies on in bed but the more time I used it, the more and more I used the dock and now can't see having one and not have a dock.
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I have to say "Yes, please!" I personally don't own a tablet yet so for me I think it is a good buy. Also after using a friends for a few days some of the docs, pdf, spread sheets ran ok but, I wish it would be a little faster. So I am hoping that the prime will make some of that more snappy.
Been hawking the web just to find a preorder, i really want one. My wife already hates me due to my droid phone compaired to her Iphone. Now I cant wait to see how this stacks up to her ipad. She is starting to hate apple hoping this will be the nail in the coffin.

[Q] Is the Transformer still worth it?

Just looking into getting a tablet and I saw Best Buy would be having these on black friday and was wondering if you guy still think the TF is worth it still. I don't have a ton to spend. But with all the new tablets coming out and Tegra 3 tablets coming out soon too, is this still worth it? I like the idea of adding the keyboard dock too and just us it to replace my laptop with something hopefully a bit quicker and all. Still seems to be a nice tablet. I have just started diving through the forums to try and find more info out about them, but I would appreciate any input from you guys. Also, do you guys think that an android tablet like the TF is a feasible replacement for a laptop in most respects or not yet? Thanks much!
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depends on what you need out of the tablet. if you want something that is seconds faster is more capable in handeling true multitasking and plan on playing a ton of heavy games or do hardcore editing (when the right apps come out) then sure wait to get a quadcore tablet. otherwise the transformer is an excellent tablet esp with ICS coming around the corner. Also, look at some youtube videos of the transformer and read up on the new possible features of a quadcore tablet and then make a rational decision with what you actually need.
And also keep in mind that if you are waiting for the "Next Big Thing"...that's what you'll do....wait. IMHO the TF 101 does everything I need wonderfully. And at a pretty darn good price point. But you should read as much as you can from as many sources as you can. Then decide.
Something to consider also. I've not read anything if the TF 201 will be root-able.
Always get the product that fits your needs, not the "best" one. Cause the next best thing is always a few months away. The Tf101 (now) and the Prime are both going to be running ICS in a few months so its a matter of gaming, speeds and missing out on very few things that the transformer cannot do now.
Well thats my personal opinion. I highly doubt that quadcore means much without running a new OS but I could be wrong. Seems like dual core is plenty for Android. We haven't gotten to the point where tablets can replace notebooks entirely so it's kind of the middle gray area that's not essential if you ask me.
if you want to pay a premium...then get the next big thing
if you are on a budget...get the last big thing
obviously, once the TF2 comes out, the TF would be out-of-date. but at the price best buy is offering it, it'd say it's definitely worth it. i paid full price for mine+shipping+tax, and i still think it's worth it.
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Poll is 14 to 0 it is still worth it. I paid $559 for mine with dock. I regret getting the dock i never use it but sounded like a great idea. I also use my laptop 99% less and my PSP not at all even my dad decided he wanted one and he still uses a bar phone and PIII laptop from 2001 that barely runs XP.
I have the TF and dock and love it, so much that when newegg had the TF+ dock for 399 I bought a second one for my wife. I have almost completely used it to replace my laptop. I watch movies, access online college classes and my business' quickbooks portfolio...just to name a few of its primary uses for me. It its more than enough power for what majority would use a tablet/netbook for.
That being said, I will most likely get prime as soon as they are readily available. However,i have zero regret buying a TF when I did and if I didnt have one now and needed one I wouldn't hesitate to buy again. It won't be obsolete for a long time, this little powerhouse still has some life left in her.
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So, it seems like most people still love this tablet which makes me less skeptical about getting the "last big thing." Another question, any opinions about the laptop dock? Is it worth it for most applications?
I use the TF to do lots of typing, between classes and paper work for my business it its a necessity. Our also makes watching movies and stuff nice cause you dont have to hold it. Those are the convenience uses.
But don't forget that the dock also provides you with 2 usb 2.0 slots, great for the 1tb portable hard drive, plus an additional full size sd slot. If that wasn't enough, asus felt they also need to add a set of batteries that increase life by about 6 hours. The nice thing about it is that if your tf is not 100% charged the battery power will transfer to the tf until it is, essential making the dock a portable charger as well.
I can't speak more highly of this tab and dock, to think,i was intending on buying a galaxy tab but it was sold out so I bought the asus on an impulse... Sure am glad I did!
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At 250 bux, its worth it. At full price (32 gig version is selling for 399 on amazon) I'd wait. Especially since 'waiting for the next best thing' in this case is most likely only a month away.
My girlfriend has an ipad2. And while I prefer this OS, hers is much nicer to hold. And with the prime being thinner and lighter than the Ipad2, that's a huge selling point for me since the vast majority of the time I'm using this while lounging around.
while the TF2 is an overall upgrade from the TF1 its not exactly lightyears ahead of it. If you can snag the TF1 plus dock for a deal on black friday/cyber monday I'd do it. But if you cant then I would just get the prime.
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This tablet is definitely worth buying. ASUS does a great job of keeping it up-to-date. It runs apps and games wonderfully. Like others have said, I have barely touched my laptop since buying it.

[Q] Purchase advice for Asus TF700t 64GB please

I am on the fence between the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and the TF700T infinity. Any thoughts you all may have please share. The pen isn't a deal breaker for me, but the KB dock for the TF700 could be a real deal maker. I like the concept of a tablet book. Not to mention the hi-rez screen and some pretty impressive CPU/GPU specs.
I also have thoughts of waiting for the next product release cycle from both Asus and Samsung to see what the future may hold.
Fell free to coment... positive, negative please feel free to fend the good the bad and the ugly/beautiful...I'll put my big boy panties on; so let it rip.
Warmest Regards from Kentucky,
TIA,
Brad
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I am on the fence between the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and the TF700T infinity. Any thoughts you all may have please share.
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Asked and answered. About 100 times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1830459
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833842
Although the Q&A forum is the next one down, I'll chime in.
I was on the same fence. I decided on this over the Note b/c
I like that the dock has a battery to help charge the tablet
I like the extra storage accommodations in the dock
I love the HD screen
I like the feel of brushed metal as opposed to plastic
HTH
I could not be happier with my Infinity. Wait for what Asus makes to trump it and you'll be waiting till 2013. The device just came to the USA a few months ago, so it's still relatively new.
Far as 64GB, the markup is insane. Here's a related thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1790957
This thing is so nice, I don't even use the XDA "app" with it, I pull up the full site, just like when on a laptop .
Here's a video to help you decide
bradslinux said:
I am on the fence between the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and the TF700T infinity. Any thoughts you all may have please share. The pen isn't a deal breaker for me, but the KB dock for the TF700 could be a real deal maker. I like the concept of a tablet book. Not to mention the hi-rez screen and some pretty impressive CPU/GPU specs.
I also have thoughts of waiting for the next product release cycle from both Asus and Samsung to see what the future may hold.
Fell free to coment... positive, negative please feel free to fend the good the bad and the ugly/beautiful...I'll put my big boy panties on; so let it rip.
Warmest Regards from Kentucky,
TIA,
Brad
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Make sure you physically use the Infinity before you dump that much money out, specially for the 64mb model. For that price and the dock you can buy a pretty powerful i7 laptop with a great screen. Regarding the Infinity the specs and numbers look great on paper but when you use it, it doesn't seem like the same thing as on paper. The JellyBean update did make it more smooth, but regular conventional browsing it jerks around when doing a simple scroll through a website. I've learned specially with technology that "specs" on paper do not necessarily coincide with the real world. If I could install Android on my wife's iPad I would LOVE to do that as I think th Apple hardware and quality is fantastic and proven.
Good luck.
bradslinux - As usual, the only person who can really decide is you. Because you'll always get answers that are all over the map here.
I was reading here before buying and thinking I might encounter issues such as those mentioned above and others people claimed to experience. But, it turns out my experience with the Infinity has been great and I'm not having such issues. (I've always prefered using XScope for my web browsing, 2nd place Dolphin, 3rd place Firefox, stock always is last place with me even with Chome. And it was like that with me even before I had the Infinity.) No physical laptop is as light as the Infinity with its dock and everything from web browsing to everything else has been a pleasure and a breeze to perform. Plus, you can't detach the screen from a laptop and the Infinity with just the screen is so light it's scary :laugh: .
You can even read in the threads about the JB update, there are people who are happy like me and others who are upset. Of course it's best to factory reset after the update, but even with that there are some happy afterwards and some who are sad. (If you like root, be sure to read about how to handle that before doing the JB update.)
Nobody can answer the question but you.
Every single Android device I buy, I see tons of complaints about, and every single time I get it I'm so much happier than the complaints. But that's how it has been for me. I know what I like and I like the Infinity .
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Without really talking about money (which is quite lame - because the infinity is priced pretty high) - and without saying anything regarding 64 gb or 32 gb. I - Would - Totally - Go - For - Infinity.
Read that out loud so you'd feel my enthusiasm
Other than Asus kinda disappointing me when it comes to their bootloader, unlock procedures and built in applications - that device is amazing.
I've got it a week ago with the docking station - Can't get enough of it. Even doing stupid things I wouldn't normally do, such as literally sitting away from my computer and using splashtop to remotely work with my pc ...
If you're into tablets, and you like gadgets, and you want a convenient, tough, good looking and very cool device - definitely take the infinity.
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Without really talking about money (which is quite lame - because the infinity is priced pretty high) - and without saying anything regarding 64 gb or 32 gb. I - Would - Totally - Go - For - Infinity.
Read that out loud so you'd feel my enthusiasm
Other than Asus kinda disappointing me when it comes to their bootloader, unlock procedures and built in applications - that device is amazing.
I've got it a week ago with the docking station - Can't get enough of it. Even doing stupid things I wouldn't normally do, such as literally sitting away from my computer and using splashtop to remotely work with my pc ...
If you're into tablets, and you like gadgets, and you want a convenient, tough, good looking and very cool device - definitely take the infinity.
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There's some great input in this thread.
I couldn't agree more as far as the positives.
Had my 32 gig gray Infin for over 2 months and have few complaints.
I'm not one of the "lucky" I am just a gadget consumer who bought a product that more than fulfilled it's ability.
If all the apps in the play store were written for tablets like this one I believe there would minimal *****ing about this thing.
I'm one of the buyers that thinks this tab may just be future enabled...
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I'm spoiled with the ease with which I could root and unlock my Galaxy Nexus, and have been trying different radios, kernels and ROMs for months, with virtually no worries, no complexity. I'm new to the Infinity, so the complexities and uncertainty about NVflash (too late for me), unlocking and rooting once JB is installed, etc, is still a bit bewildering in comparison to the GNEx (I have lots of reading to do) -- and I'm finding it irritating so far. That said, even with stock JB installed, and Apex Pro and Beautiful Widgets (and HD widgets - still deciding which I like better on this device), I'm finding the TF700T to be a pretty amazing device.
I took it out "for a spin" today -- into NYC by train, on a couple of subways, and to a couple of meetings. I purposely did NOT carry a backpack or briefcase, took no laptop, no laptop brick, etc. The Infinity and dock, in a simple slipcase, was the only "business tool" I brought with me in addition to a phone today.
On the train into NY and even in the NYC subways (Verizon has picocells in the train tunnels), my Galaxy Nexus had a strong signal, so I flipped on it's Wi-Fi hotspot and my TF700T was connected the entire time I was traveling. Sweet!
At the business meetings, I opened up a few PowerPoint presentations I had copied on the device before my trip. The display was so bright and clear that the presentations looked great on the 10.1" screen -- and I was able to pass the tablet itself around for people to look at, navigate through slides, etc. Incredibly effective.
On the way home, I assembled notes from the day, marked up the presentations. I used it as a primary email client for the day. Amazingly (for me, coming from a Galaxy Nexus as a reference point), I used the device for several hours today, the display was amazing even in the brightest light- and I essentially did everything needed with a fraction of what I would normally carry for a business day in the New York. After many hours of use, I had barely dented the battery charge -- this is really pretty amazing. As bright as clear as the display is,it is apparently pretty energy efficient.
Anyway - between functionality, usability, elegance, battery life and sheer portability, this is clearly going to have a big impact on my days as a "road warrior".
Honestly - the only thing seriously giving me second thoughts is increasingly real sounding speculation about a Google / Samsung Galaxy Nexus 10.1 in the works, with 2560 x 1600 resolution (among other things). I have a strong feeling that I'll be wanting that new device when it comes out. But for now, the TF700T strikes me as the best device available in its class-- at least for my purposes.
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Honestly - the only thing seriously giving me second thoughts is increasingly real sounding speculation about a Google / Samsung Galaxy Nexus 10.1 in the works, with 2560 x 1600 resolution (among other things). I have a strong feeling that I'll be wanting that new device when it comes out. But for now, the TF700T strikes me as the best device available in its class-- at least for my purposes.
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Wow...as a commensurate gadgeteer myself I would just love something like this alleged Google / Samsung Galaxy Nexus 10.1 with 2560 x 1600 resolution.
If they build it...I will (well you know)
I can't compare the two. There's plenty of information here and the net comparing the two for you to make judgement on what will suit your needs and desires.
If you do choose the Infinity, I would suggest going with the smaller 32GB version because the cost of the larger is not money well spent. Since the Infinity has the SDHC/XC slot, you can get a lot more storage for the money in that route. Heck, wait for a sale, and you can get a lot more. Personally, I went with the smaller unit. Picked up the Scandisc 64GB microSDXC card for $50. I hardly use any storage on the internal, so even the SC card is a bit of waste. Really, unless you're going to have hundreds of apps, thousands of songs, or a lot of video stored, you really don't need that much memory.
Also, if you want to save a few dollars, you can pick up the dock for the Prime, TF201. It's the same thing, just a different color. It's nice you want want the extra battery, SD card slot, or USB ports. If you just want the keyboard, I would suggest just getting a blue tooth keyboard since you can use it on more than one device. It's essentially what I did, but I already had a portable keyboard I used with my smartphone.
If you're really indecisive, see if someone lives near you and see if you can meet up and check out their device. Handling is always better than reading.
More about the potential 10" Nexus is here.
I doubt it will have a dock, so I'll keep my Infinity .
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
More about the potential 10" Nexus is here.
I doubt it will have a dock, so I'll keep my Infinity .
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I was just thinking about that myself. Mixed feelings though. I love having the extra battery in the dock. Keyboard is nice, but I tend to prefer Swype, even on a tablet. (using it now).
Thanks everybody for the remarks and opinions. No longer on the fence, I just popped for the 64gb version w/dock kb and a nice leather case. It should be in my hands tomorrow with the case following behind early next week. The biggest deciding factor for me was the "Keyboard vs "S" Pen" arguement, the KB won it.
All the responses I received only go to further my appreciation of what the XDA community has to offer.
My greatest difficulty will be in NOT installing a custom ROM right out of the box. LOL
With great anticipation of the arrival of my new tablet, and warmest regards to all,
Brad
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