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I've been testing and comparing some of the top candidates og android phones on the market now.
The competitors are: Samsung Galaxy SII, Lg Optimus 2x (CM7) and HTC Sensation
And I must say, I'm pretty disappointed with HTC Sensation so far. Don't know if I'm just unlucky, or if we should expect an update on this in the future, but the GPU is way behind in comparison to the two others.
www.antutu.com benchmark results:
4578 - Samsung Galaxy SII
4456 - LG Optimus 2x
3758 - HTC Sensation
Goint through the details, the most worrying is HTC Sensation scores low on 2d/3d graphics, about half of what LG Optimus 2x scores, which is the winner, with a total of 297 + 350 in graphics. Sensation scores about 300 in total.
Qaudrant benchmark goes like this:
3678 - Samsung Galaxy SII
3120 - LG optimus 2x
2170 - HTC Sensation
Basically Samsung wins because of scoring higher on both CPU and memory (1gb ram)
LG Optimus 2x got he best GPU and Database IO (data transfer rate)
HTC Sensation is just way behind
What is your results? Is it just me, or could we hope for an update?
I have heard rumors about HTC Sensation only running on half of the kernels ind the GPU, is this true?
I heard it scores so low because of the Sense 3.0 requiring so much to run.
Maybe HTC should start concerning themselves more with function rather than form. I think everyone hear would rather have a faster device with less eye candy. If you look at what Samsung had done since the Behold II they have progressively toned Touch Wiz down with each iteration. I just hope we get the boot loader unlocked quick.
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I hated touchwiz, and still hate Samsung.
Always have liked the sense. To.each their own.
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Sensation has such low benchmarks because it has qHD screen and Sense 3.0. Take Sense 3.0 away and this thing'll fly!
As I said in my own Sense 3.0 thread, having Sense 3.0 and qHD screen beats having high benchmarks. Benchmarks don't mean ANYTHING unless they're running the same UI overlay. Put them on stock/CyanogenMod and the Sensation will be a lot lot faster!
redbullcat said:
Sensation has such low benchmarks because it has qHD screen and Sense 3.0. Take Sense 3.0 away and this thing'll fly!
As I said in my own Sense 3.0 thread, having Sense 3.0 and qHD screen beats having high benchmarks. Benchmarks don't mean ANYTHING unless they're running the same UI overlay. Put them on stock/CyanogenMod and the Sensation will be a lot lot faster!
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I agree with this. Sense requires a lot of ram and so does the qHD screen. That's the only reason benchmarks are so low. Get some stock GB on here and you'll see the difference. It also explains why the chip is clocked at 1.2GHz. I wonder how much further it can be pushed, though.
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I agree with this. Sense requires a lot of ram and so does the qHD screen. That's the only reason benchmarks are so low. Get some stock GB on here and you'll see the difference. It also explains why the chip is clocked at 1.2GHz. I wonder how much further it can be pushed, though.
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I've heard the chip is underclocked to 1.2ghz to save battery...it apparently can go to 1.5ghz, at least.
jrwingate6 said:
Maybe HTC should start concerning themselves more with function rather than form. I think everyone hear would rather have a faster device with less eye candy. If you look at what Samsung had done since the Behold II they have progressively toned Touch Wiz down with each iteration. I just hope we get the boot loader unlocked quick.
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If you don't like sense then why buy the Sensation? That's like buying car that's a stick and then complaining because it's not an automatic. Yes sense is on the phone, yes sense may cause lower benchmarks, yes it's heavily intergrated. If those things bother you then perhaps purchasing a sensation was a mistake...not trying to start an argument, but really it illogical to complain about something you knew going in was a core part of the phone. I don't like touchwiz...so I don't purchase devices with touchwiz on them...it wouldn't make sense for me to buy a phone with touchwiz knowing I don't like it and then complaining about it.
Some ignorant people just don't get the fact. HTC had been advertised about Sense 3.0 for Sensation and we all do know it is a core part of the phone. So don't get the phone if you are for benchmarks isn't it? this sound silly, doesn't it?
Ah! Of course... the screen res is higher, that should influence on the benchmark for sure. Moto Xoom scores low also, but that too, has a higher res.
Im just concerned if it is still scoring lower when on stock. Does anyone have a true benchmark of the Adreno220, which is within the Sensation?
The benchmarks I found on the internet, the Adreno220/M8660 beats the crap out of LG optimus 2x and SGSII.
Anyone know if there is a truth to the "half cores only support" yet?
larsn84 said:
Ah! Of course... the screen res is higher, that should influence on the benchmark for sure. Moto Xoom scores low also, but that too, has a higher res.
Im just concerned if it is still scoring lower when on stock. Does anyone have a true benchmark of the Adreno220, which is within the Sensation?
The benchmarks I found on the internet, the Adreno220/M8660 beats the crap out of LG optimus 2x and SGSII.
Anyone know if there is a truth to the "half cores only support" yet?
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When we get s-off, we'll have some true benchmarks for all devices. Optimus 2x, Galaxy S II, Sensation, and possibly Moto Atrix. Put them all on latest release of CyanogenMod7 and benchmark them using a range of apps.
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I heard it scores so low because of the Sense 3.0 requiring so much to run.
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Actually its mainly because HTC chose to use old technology and use 2 second gen snapdragon chips which use the arm 8 instruction set, instead of using a cpu based on the new arm 9 technology which is what every other new dual core cpu is set up with.
TheRiceKing said:
Actually its mainly because HTC chose to use old technology and use 2 second gen snapdragon chips which use the arm 8 instruction set, instead of using a cpu based on the new arm 9 technology which is what ever other new dual core cpu is set up with.
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As other people have stated, this view is nonsense. Scorpion is a parallel development to A9. It has advantages and disadvantages in comparison.
lol if you want to try and call it nonsense... I'm really just trying to help educate you and explain, but you can continue to think that if you wish
Scorpion incorporates some ARM 9 features, its basically like ARM 8 and a half and that is being optimistic -_-'
TheRiceKing said:
Actually its mainly because HTC chose to use old technology and use 2 second gen snapdragon chips which use the arm 8 instruction set, instead of using a cpu based on the new arm 9 technology which is what ever other new dual core cpu is set up with.
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Your post is wildly inaccurate... First of all there is no ARM 8 instruction set. All A8, A9, and Scorpion processors use the ARMv7 instruction set. Second, Scorpion is Qualcomm's own architecture, it is not based on the A8 design, they created their own design from scratch. It is not as simple as A9 > A8 for this reason. The Scorpion architecture implements features that are not available on A8 but are available on A9. The main difference between the Scorpion and the A9 is the number of pipeline stages. The Scorpion has 13 while the A9 has 8. This is positive and negative for both, as more pipeline stages improves throughput, but is more costly if an instruction has to be aborted and the pipeline flushed.
I have gotten a lot of responses telling me that the Scorpion is based off A8 and tweaked. This is not correct. If it were simply tweaked, it would not be able to have a clock over 1 GHz without overclocking, as that is the limitation of the A8 architecture. It also could not support dual cores, again a limitation of A8. The Scorpion also has partial support of out-of-order processing. This is impossible on an A8 processor, but is fully supported on an A9.
You are correct in saying that every other dual core is based off an A9 processor because the A9 is the only design you can license from ARM that can support dual cores. The only alternative is for a company to license the instruction set itself and design their own architecture (Qualcomm's approach). I should also point out that the A9 processors are synchronous, while the MSM8260 is asynchronous, allowing separate clock speeds and voltages to each core, which can greatly increase battery performance (especially on processes that only utilize 1 core).
I will agree that A9 is more advanced than Scorpion, but it is not by nearly as much as the "Scorpion is A8" argument would indicate. The MSM8260 can also support clock speed up to 1.5 GHz, so the Sensation can be overclocked without actually overclocking the processor.
LittleMerc said:
Some ignorant people just don't get the fact. HTC had been advertised about Sense 3.0 for Sensation and we all do know it is a core part of the phone. So don't get the phone if you are for benchmarks isn't it? this sound silly, doesn't it?
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Exactly! I don't understand the logic of people that purchase a device that they know has certain features and then complain about it. That's like buying a phone with a slide out keyboard and then complaining saying you don't like the fact that it has a slide out keyboard. My thing is, Sense is not a surprise. Everyone knew going in that it was there, and they know what it is and how it works. If certain people don't like that, then they probably shouldn't have bought the phone. Doesn't make sense to complain about getting exactly what you were paying for.
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Your post is wildly inaccurate... First of all there is no ARM 8 instruction set. All A8, A9, and Scorpion processors use the ARMv7 instruction set. Second, Scorpion is Qualcomm's own architecture, it is not based on the A8 design, they created their own design from scratch. It is not as simple as A9 > A8 for this reason. The Scorpion architecture implements features that are not available on A8 but are available on A9. The main difference between the Scorpion and the A9 is the number of pipeline stages. The Scorpion has 13 while the A9 has 8. This is positive and negative for both, as more pipeline stages improves throughput, but is more costly if an instruction has to be aborted and the pipeline flushed.
I have gotten a lot of responses telling me that the Scorpion is based off A8 and tweaked. This is not correct. If it were simply tweaked, it would not be able to have a clock over 1 GHz without overclocking, as that is the limitation of the A8 architecture. It also could not support dual cores, again a limitation of A8. The Scorpion also has partial support of out-of-order processing. This is impossible on an A8 processor, but is fully supported on an A9.
You are correct in saying that every other dual core is based off an A9 processor because the A9 is the only design you can license from ARM that can support dual cores. The only alternative is for a company to license the instruction set itself and design their own architecture (Qualcomm's approach). I should also point out that the A9 processors are synchronous, while the MSM8260 is asynchronous, allowing separate clock speeds and voltages to each core, which can greatly increase battery performance (especially on processes that only utilize 1 core).
I will agree that A9 is more advanced than Scorpion, but it is not by nearly as much as the "Scorpion is A8" argument would indicate. The MSM8260 can also support clock speed up to 1.5 GHz, so the Sensation can be overclocked without actually overclocking the processor.
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Wow, informative post. That should stop the A9 >A8 (Scorpion) because it's a bigger number rubbish, for a while.
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I have seen all the feature sets of both devices.
All the hardware is almost the same except the CPU
- I want to know which of the following configs gives more performance taking into consideration tweaks and tools available on xda forums.
1 GHz ARM Cortex-A8 processor, PowerVR SGX540 GPU, Hummingbird chipset
OR
800MHz Cortex-A8 processor, TI OMAP3610 chipset
Bro there is no comparison even HTC desire was way better than motorola Defy..Nexus S even beats ATRIX in real life performance.
papubhai said:
Bro there is no comparison even HTC desire was way better than motorola Defy..Nexus S even beats ATRIX in real life performance.
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100% agreed.
but we need a more feature rich camera like the sgs
NS without a doubt. Motorola is just gross
Guys say something about the CPU OC capabilities
rsk_kelkar said:
Guys say something about the CPU OC capabilities
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i know that you can OC the Nexus S to 1.4GHz without any problems, someone even think about a 1.6GHz kernel....
but my NS runs with 1GHz very smooth
i saw the defy one time by a friend --> very laggy and to small for me
eiabea said:
i know that you can OC the Nexus S to 1.4GHz without any problems, someone even think about a 1.6GHz kernel....
but my NS runs with 1GHz very smooth
i saw the defy one time by a friend --> very laggy and to small for me
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i rooted my buddy's defy and threw on a custom rom (can't remember which one) but it ran decent, fairly smooth prolly cuz of the omap processor, but it wasn't what we would call "powerful".
the defy is considered an entry level android phone for those rugged users who want to step into the smartphone world with something durable
I`m dreming to much if i want this on our Desire`s. Maybe some dev`s can play with it, to porting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1261911
Sorry if it`s the wrong section.
hmmm something new...? maybe only audio releated thing...?
HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio
coolexe said:
hmmm something new...? maybe only audio releated thing...?
HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio
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Yap.
It's the same phone as the Sensation.
(Processor have the normal speed as it should be at first... [1.5Ghz])
The only new thing is this beat bla apk
coolexe said:
hmmm something new...? maybe only audio releated thing...?
HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio
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This need resize apps
how come only Bliss has Sense 3.5, but newer HTC models still 3.0?
I really like Sense 3.5, although I won't buy Bliss as it has 800mhz processor, single core...
I was thinking on bliss too but 800mhz is so 2009 lol
Yekxmerr said:
I was thinking on bliss too but 800mhz is so 2009 lol
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bliss = desire Z > desire.
desire: 60nm adreno 200 max oc 1.2
bliss : 45nm adreno 205. max oc 1.7 ?
think twice.
ronijs19 said:
bliss = desire Z > desire.
desire: 60nm adreno 200 max oc 1.2
bliss : 45nm adreno 205. max oc 1.7 ?
think twice.
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how come Desire Z has 800mhz processor, but can be overclocked to 1.7, but with our desire can be from 1 to max 1,19Ghz, but then it just doesnt work?
A little off topic, but I'm interested
doesnt it have sense 3.5 with the old style launcher (not the new bliss one)?
CrazyCypher said:
how come Desire Z has 800mhz processor, but can be overclocked to 1.7, but with our desire can be from 1 to max 1,19Ghz, but then it just doesnt work?
A little off topic, but I'm interested
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Because of the difference in the architecture of the processors...basically in casual way of speaking the Z have a newer processor design while classic desire has a older processor...same as intel has core i3's of first gen. and second gen.
Is it possible to overclock the CPU to more than 1.5ghz? Most ROMs only go to 1.5.
I'm asking because the sensation xl has the same CPU but people are overclocking that to over 1.5 safely.
Virtuous Quattro ICS rom (and its kernel) goes to 1.9 safely
Is there a kernel that is compatible with sense 3.0 or 3.5 ROM?
i'm not sure, i dont use a sense rom
325i. said:
Is there a kernel that is compatible with sense 3.0 or 3.5 ROM?
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Yes. Endymion/Hyperion kernels allow up to 1.5Ghz.
Unity9 allows up to 2ghz. Its mot recommended however, as the kernel is old, and 2ghz isnt safe
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olyloh6696 said:
Yes. Endymion/Hyperion kernels allow up to 1.5Ghz.
Unity9 allows up to 2ghz. Its mot recommended however, as the kernel is old, and 2ghz isnt safe
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Yeah but is there a sense kernel that allows higher than 1.5?
325i. said:
Yeah but is there a sense kernel that allows higher than 1.5?
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Yes.. I just said Unity9...
It's not recommended. It's old and has bugs with the front camera.
In the first place, you shouldn't OC higher than 1.5ghz. The chip isn't designed to run a frequencies higher than 1.5ghz for ling periods of time. In the long run, you will damage to motherboard, fry the chip etc. Battery life will also be significantly shorter too.
If your intentions were to do that, i don't think you should have got this phone in the first place, and you should have just stuck with the Sensation.
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325i. said:
Is it possible to overclock the CPU to more than 1.5ghz? Most ROMs only go to 1.5.
I'm asking because the sensation xl has the same CPU but people are overclocking that to over 1.5 safely.
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the sensation xl is shipped at 1.5GHz. There's no need to exceed 1.2GHz in my opinion, at least not yet.
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the sensation xl is shipped at 1.5GHz. There's no need to exceed 1.2GHz in my opinion, at least not yet.
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The Sensation has a dual core 8260 Snapdragon CPU, our has 8255 (single core) so i think that 1.5 Ghz for the DS is more than enough and safe, also reading somewhere that the 8255 is designed to run at 1.4 Ghz as an optimal freq and that the mobile manufacturers are free to undercloock/overclock for specific needs
I personally use the 8255 at 1.1 Ghz...never had lags
Hey,
I limited all my kernels, Hyperion, Endymion and Reaper kernels to around 1.5GHz, as it is way more than enough. I did this for some reasons:
- As it has been discussed all over these forums, devices handle OC/UV differently, no matter if the cpu is the same. This has to do with sheer luck with what part you get from the factory, your phone is only guaranteed to work at up to 1GHz. It may seem stable at 1.5 but reboot once a week, some phones may not boot at 1.2, and some phones can chug along happily at 2GHz.
- Every newbie that lands on these forums will instantly set the frequency as high as they can. Then they will get a freeze now and then. Then they pull the battery. Then they kill the phone. THEN they check the forums and read that they should not have pulled the battery.
- With my current roms, where the kernels are tested, there is no need for overclocking. Things run very very smooth at stock values. But I believe in "power to the user", that's why I even give the option to OC. The last time I had to overclock my phone due to lag/choppiness was with Virtuous 2.39 or whatever, months ago.
So ask yourself why you want to go higher. Bragging rights? Quadrant scores to show your mates? Do you even notice a difference between, let's say, 1.2GHz and 1.5GHz? Is it really worth it?
Think about it.
Cheers
So much detail, couldn't have said it better myself In short, 1 Ghz is enough for most, 1.5 is more than enough. Anything above that is DANGEROUS and should be avoided.
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cpx07 said:
The Sensation has a dual core 8260 Snapdragon CPU, our has 8255 (single core) so i think that 1.5 Ghz for the DS is more than enough and safe, also reading somewhere that the 8255 is designed to run at 1.4 Ghz as an optimal freq and that the mobile manufacturers are free to undercloock/overclock for specific needs
I personally use the 8255 at 1.1 Ghz...never had lags
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Yeah, that's the regular Sensation.
We are taking about the XL which has a single core 1.5ghz CPU.
+1 agree with lowveld. I Never OC'ed for normal usage. I don't feel the need. You can't tell the difference in performance IMO
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I'm sorry if I missed the point, but is there anything overclocking that much is necessary for? I mean, I'm at 1,3 GHz max now but my phone runs at 1 GHz 60% of the time, rest of the time lower. I never reached something above 1 GHz.. ?
So why overclocking even more?
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My mistake, 60% of time it's at 245 mhz and only 30% of time at 1GHz.
But my question is still the same..
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Hi guys.
I wanted to ask you something, because in our sl i9003 is the maximum possible overclock 1300 mhz?
The Artex-A8 processor is not it?
It should be a very powerful processor, but even though I've always overclocchi various lag to 1.3, with any rom.
And my device has no flaws ..
So, back to the main question .. because the maximum overclock is only 1.3?
Now I'm using the rom with the look dell's3 and formatted EXT4 but is slow and full of lag .. Help!
Thanks.
I'm wrong or sI9000 can be overclocked more with the same cpu?
davibs said:
Hi guys.
I wanted to ask you something, because in our sl i9003 is the maximum possible overclock 1300 mhz?
The Artex-A8 processor is not it?
It should be a very powerful processor, but even though I've always overclocchi various lag to 1.3, with any rom.
And my device has no flaws ..
So, back to the main question .. because the maximum overclock is only 1.3?
Now I'm using the rom with the look dell's3 and formatted EXT4 but is slow and full of lag .. Help!
Thanks.
I'm wrong or sI9000 can be overclocked more with the same cpu?
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are u confused in between i9000 or i9003 phone?
Max overclock i9000 - 1.6ghz (i think)
Max overclock i9003 - 1.38ghz
vishal24387 said:
are u confused in between i9000 or i9003 phone?
Max overclock i9000 - 1.6ghz (i think)
Max overclock i9003 - 1.38ghz
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No , he would be know why for our phone the max overclock is 1.38 ghz.. I would it know to..
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Our Max is 1.45(I think can't rmb). Each chip has different oc capabilities, my g3 could oc from 667mhz to 1.4ghz with no problems .
Cheers
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Could so anyone develop a kernel with 1.45 ghz ??
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Could so anyone develop a kernel with 1.45 ghz ??
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As I said I don't rmb clearly, but its in 1.4-1.45 ghz
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Well, you can easly push your phone at 1500MHz (BCK kernel feature: Evolved sysfs interface for variable overclock or underclock), but the phone is not usable. I tried once to slowly change the frequency to see my limit and @1400MHz the phone became unusable.
Other than being unstable because, quoting XDA_Bam, "Anything more than 10% higher than the highest stock frequency is likely to be unstable", I think the voltage set for the 5th OPP is too low for anything higher than 1300MHz (maybe I'm wrong).
Proof? here.
Actually, this is "fake". To take this screenshot I had first disabled the 5th OPP, then I changed its frequency so that CPU Spy showed 1500MHz even though I wasn't really using it. The time spent at that frequency was actually the time the CPU spent at 1200MHz before I had disabled the 5th OPP
I did that to show you that it's actually possible to (easly) change the max frequency to anything higher 1380MHz.
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And BTW devs are continuosly improving this device, we were first limited to 1100MHz, now some phones are stable at 1300MHz. Remember that our cousing (I9000) is older and has a huge community.
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"I'm wrong or sI9000 can be overclocked more with the same cpu?" => "I'm wrong or sI9000 can be overclocked more with a totally different cpu?"
vishal24387 said:
are u confused in between i9000 or i9003 phone?
Max overclock i9000 - 1.6ghz (i think)
Max overclock i9003 - 1.38ghz
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EDIT: -Looks like i am wrong too?
davibs said:
I'm wrong or sI9000 can be overclocked more with the same cpu?
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You are wrong: the CPUs are different
i9003 has TI OMAP 3630 1GHz and i9000 has Samsung S5PC110 1GHz (code-named "Hummingbird")
Cortex A8 is just instructions and specifications for CPU. It's like DX10 for GPU. You can say Nvidia XXX card supports DX10 and AMD YYY supports it, why clocks for these cards and overclock potential are different?
I think the cpu of the i9000 is wors then the from i9003 so why is the i9000 overclocked to 50% and in our is it only 35%?
Cuold we not work on an overclock like 1.45 ghz for our phone ? Would it be unstable or is it because we need developers that can make it stable?
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I think the cpu of the i9000 is wors then the from i9003 so why is the i9000 overclocked to 50% and in our is it only 35%?
Cuold we not work on an overclock like 1.45 ghz for our phone ? Would it be unstable or is it because we need developers that can make it stable?
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But can anybody tell me that whats the use of such higher OC (1.45ghz) when u can do same stuffs smoothly on 1.2 ghz easily??? Also OC looks very attractive feature but in my opinioin its a deadly battery killer feature. OC upto 1.35 ghz is more than sufficient (I am satisfied with 1ghz max with superb performance & good battery backup).
Instead of wasting time on overclocking developers should work on overclocking gpu, kernel 3.0 or video codec, video recording in cm7, cm9, miui, aosp roms. Because for now thats a big problem for our phone.
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But can anybody tell me that whats the use of such higher OC (1.45ghz) when u can do same stuffs smoothly on 1.2 ghz easily??? Also OC looks very attractive feature but in my opinioin its a deadly battery killer feature. OC upto 1.35 ghz is more than sufficient (I am satisfied with 1ghz max with superb performance & good battery backup).
Instead of wasting time on overclocking developers should work on overclocking gpu, kernel 3.0 or video codec, video recording in cm7, cm9, miui, aosp roms. Because for now thats a big problem for our phone.
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I am with you, we reached the limits of "smoothness" really (On stable roms, we shouldn't blame hardware when using buggy or incompletete roms or even stupid samsung roms.)
It would be better if devs focus on the GPU.
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I think the cpu of the i9000 is wors then the from i9003 so why is the i9000 overclocked to 50% and in our is it only 35%?
Could we not work on an overclock like 1.45 ghz for our phone ? Would it be unstable or is it because we need developers that can make it stable?
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Remember when OCing just happened on our device? we were limited to 1080 Ghz, then to 1100 Ghz, then to 1200 Ghz/1300 Ghz, and now 1380 Ghz, devs will always figure out a way to squeeze more power and keep it stable, it needs time and effort.
The Galaxy S has a different CPU (That has lower OC potential then ours theoretically if i remember correctly) but has a bigger number of developers, it was released in 2010, our device was released in 2011 so it is kinda new.
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But can anybody tell me that whats the use of such higher OC (1.45ghz) when u can do same stuffs smoothly on 1.2 ghz easily??? Also OC looks very attractive feature but in my opinioin its a deadly battery killer feature. OC upto 1.35 ghz is more than sufficient (I am satisfied with 1ghz max with superb performance & good battery backup).
Instead of wasting time on overclocking developers should work on overclocking gpu, kernel 3.0 or video codec, video recording in cm7, cm9, miui, aosp roms. Because for now thats a big problem for our phone.
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Yes of cours but some developers can't fix this bugs.. But maybe they are able to overclock the phone (like uc team) and i think it's not a battery killer.. If i have battery problems i buy for 10 € a new battery.. Some games and if i have 2 apps open the phon is luggy.. Maybe with an haiey overclock it will be smoother
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Remember guys, even if you OC the CPU, there will always be the weight of our outdated GPU dragging us down. Even if we OC to 1.45Ghz, you will always experience little bits of lag due to our PowerVR530. If I compare my friend's stock I9000 (No Mods, No Root, No OC:1Ghz) to my I9003 (with OC 1.38Ghz). My friend's I9000 will always be smoother due to both an advanced CPU and GPU.
FeelLikeASir said:
Remember guys, even if you OC the CPU, there will always be the weight of our outdated GPU dragging us down. Even if we OC to 1.45Ghz, you will always experience little bits of lag due to our PowerVR530. If I compare my friend's stock I9000 (No Mods, No Root, No OC:1Ghz) to my I9003 (with OC 1.38Ghz). My friend's I9000 will always be smoother due to both an advanced CPU and GPU.
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Only their GPU is superior..
If someone could OC the gpu, we can probably reach their performance.
Skander1998 said:
Only their GPU is superior..
If someone could OC the gpu, we can probably reach their performance.
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The uc team has tried but it seems the gpu frequency is locked
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bscraze said:
The uc team has tried but it seems the gpu frequency is locked
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Nope
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451218&highlight=gpu+overclock
V9:
-Performace gpu and test overclocking to 300Mhz.
-Apply patch swa sources.(Many thanks to xda_bam)
-fix some small fix codes.
-Add vurrutCWM with many addons
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Nope
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451218&highlight=gpu+overclock
V9:
-Performace gpu and test overclocking to 300Mhz.
-Apply patch swa sources.(Many thanks to xda_bam)
-fix some small fix codes.
-Add vurrutCWM with many addons
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Yes as they said they're testing, they themselves said there is no way they can confirm its working
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bscraze said:
Yes as they said they're testing, they themselves said there is no way they can confirm its working
Cheers
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But in the next version 9.1 they stated that they lowered the OC, (Still OCed) and this is the latest working version.
V9.1:
-Fix problems in recovery.
-Reduce overclock gpu to 220Mhz.
-Voltage ajustement.