Hi,
I've got a friend who I helped upgrade from 2.3.5 to 4.0.4 on his i727r. He had his phone rooted with bloat deleted, so I restored the stock rogers 2.3.5 rom from sammobile using Odin with intentions of using Kies to grab the official upgrade to 4.0.4. Unfortunately his phone was low on battery so Kies wouldn't complete the upgrade in the time we had allotted, so we decided to do the 'unofficial' upgrade and flashed the rogers 4.0.4 rom downloaded from sammobile using Odin.
So, I'm wondering, as far as the process of upgrading using Odin compared to Kies, is there any reason why an upgrade through Kies would be more stable/ result in less FC's once he's on ICS? We didnt do a data wipe, so unless somehow Kies does that and then restores app data, I'm not sure what the difference between the two is.
He's had many FC's with TwLauncher and apparently his ram is out of control (I think that could just be a difference from GB to ICS). Anytime I have FC troubles with my TF101 or i9000.. its always a factory reset to fix it, but I was just wondering if somehow the Kies upgrade process would have taken care of that for people who just upgrade the samsung-intended way?
Thanks in advance!
dektoud said:
Hi,
I've got a friend who I helped upgrade from 2.3.5 to 4.0.4 on his i727r. He had his phone rooted with bloat deleted, so I restored the stock rogers 2.3.5 rom from sammobile using Odin with intentions of using Kies to grab the official upgrade to 4.0.4. Unfortunately his phone was low on battery so Kies wouldn't complete the upgrade in the time we had allotted, so we decided to do the 'unofficial' upgrade and flashed the rogers 4.0.4 rom downloaded from sammobile using Odin.
So, I'm wondering, as far as the process of upgrading using Odin compared to Kies, is there any reason why an upgrade through Kies would be more stable/ result in less FC's once he's on ICS? We didnt do a data wipe, so unless somehow Kies does that and then restores app data, I'm not sure what the difference between the two is.
He's had many FC's with TwLauncher and apparently his ram is out of control (I think that could just be a difference from GB to ICS). Anytime I have FC troubles with my TF101 or i9000.. its always a factory reset to fix it, but I was just wondering if somehow the Kies upgrade process would have taken care of that for people who just upgrade the samsung-intended way?
Thanks in advance!
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There really shouldn't be any problem with using odin over kies method. I've always did my upgrade through odin every since i had my captivate and now for the skyrocket. Personally if i was him i would back up all the apps and data that he wants to save, then do a factory reset and see if that clears up the FC's. Also he should just try another launcher like Apex and see if that gives him any problems...plus its a way better launcher to begin with
I think it trips your flash counter, but there is a fix for that. Google Rogers skyrocket flash counter reset
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Hi there. I have read quite a few tutorials on rooting my phone. I did have it rooted at one point using odin and a package for cwm. It worked great. I wanted to try out one of the 4.* ICS roms, that worked fine.. sorted that out no problem but there was no gps so I wanted to go back to my rooted 2.3.6.
Went to put it back to standard with stock firmware, that also worked fine. The problem I have now is when I attempt to root using the same files, same settings and same utilities as before, It boots up to the samsung galaxy logo, then reboots and shows the logo again and again in an infinite loop.
I have cleared the user data and cache, and the root appears to work as the recovery program installs correctly, but it will not boot the OS.
When i flashed to stock I used odin.. the 512 pit file, the stock pda, phone and csc files. and that works perfectly but not when I root it!
Any ideas??
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I flashed with stock 2.3.5 firmware so that I could use samsung kies to flash my phone back to 2.3.6 so that it was 100% stock and kies now says that my device does not support firmware upgrades!!!
Seems as nobody can be arsed to answer my question I have researched and answered it myself...
If anybody has the same problem of Kies saying "Your device does not support firmware upgrades" all you have to do is go into the "About phone" section of the settings.. find the baseband version of your phone.. Mine was I9000XXJVT... find the lowest version of android on samfirmwares.com , mine was 2.3.4, install it..
then kies recognizes your phone again and will upgrade it to the latest version..
Oh by the way THANKS FOR YOUR HELP lol
This particular phone for record purposes upgraded to:
PDA:JW4 / PHONE:JW4 / CSC:JW5 (CPW) which im guessing is carphone warehouse..
I tried the samfirmware.com version of the latest CPW firmware they have and kies still said it would not update the firmware
and before all you geeks get on your high horse and say why didnt u do this and why didnt you do that..
I couldn't root my firmware after installing the CPW firmware as mentioned above from samfirmwares.com.. i was in an infinite reboot loop. I could load standard firmware from samfirmwares.com and it would boot fine, but I couldn't root it from that.
My aim was to get it back to standard and go from there.
One question.. pretty obvious really... I have searched high and low and still am yet unable to find a sofrware for BACKING UP my original firmware... this would be a pretty sensible idea??? yes???
So I started to read up on the new ICS update for Rogers Skyrocket, and the consensus is that it's slow and laggy. I do want to try it out.... but here's the big question...
If I don't care for it.... can I downgrade back to 2.3.6? With no relative issues?
And how would I go about doing it?
No0b question I'm probably sure... but hey if you don't ask you'll never know!
It would be best to back up. Back up creates a copy of your entire phone so you can swap between the two images if you'd like. If you really have important data then I would back up stuff to your PC first.
Im not finding it slow and laggy at all. But yes, pretty sure if youre gonna downgrade you gotta odin the stock tar from sammobile. Might be able to do it through kies, but im not sure
Its not slow and lagy for me. Works great. I upgraded with the sammobile tar installed cwm and rooted. You can always go back. Just install modem and rom or get tar from sammobile.
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Well I am downloading a TAR from the site here that I found of 2.3.6 so that's ok... I've backed up the phone from Kies so I at least have a copy there... but for the most part I won't lose anything there either. Most everything I have is backed up on Google...
SO I guess I would jsut load the 236 to my external and then install it if i wanted to?
This is a question. therefor, belongs in Q&A. Moved.
Cheers
Hi, noob here (obviously)
I went ahead to downgraded my Rogers GSII LTE from ICS 4.0.4 to GB 2.3.5. It's the correct stock ROM, as I've used it previously without any problems.
I wiped all data while still on ICS, put the phone in download mode, launched Odin with the option "Auto Reboot" checked, nothing else. Pointed the PDA section to the stock ROM. Flashed it, and after about 4 mins it rebooted.
I get to the Android setup page but I can't even launch the setup.
"The process android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again" and it Force Closes.
Anything I can do to clean the phone properly to reload the stock rom?
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This is a question. therefor, belongs in Q&A. Moved.
Cheers
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No Worries PR.... Thanks for the heads up....
And I notice that it's laggy here and there... especially while texting. I've been using advanced app killer and seems to help a little....
Battery life has increased too which is a good thing. But all in all.... They fell flat. Lots of programs that just aren't ICS ready for the GSII
blanchardc said:
Hi, noob here (obviously)
I went ahead to downgraded my Rogers GSII LTE from ICS 4.0.4 to GB 2.3.5. It's the correct stock ROM, as I've used it previously without any problems.
I wiped all data while still on ICS, put the phone in download mode, launched Odin with the option "Auto Reboot" checked, nothing else. Pointed the PDA section to the stock ROM. Flashed it, and after about 4 mins it rebooted.
I get to the Android setup page but I can't even launch the setup.
"The process android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again" and it Force Closes.
Anything I can do to clean the phone properly to reload the stock rom?
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factory data reset from recovery.
digitalnights said:
So I started to read up on the new ICS update for Rogers Skyrocket, and the consensus is that it's slow and laggy. I do want to try it out.... but here's the big question...
If I don't care for it.... can I downgrade back to 2.3.6? With no relative issues?
And how would I go about doing it?
No0b question I'm probably sure... but hey if you don't ask you'll never know!
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2.3.6 is not rogers, im guessing u r not rooted or have cwm, if u want to go back to rogers stock its 2.3.5 , u can use kohanes method but not his firmware files, go to sammobile to get the stock files, use i727r in the search box in the firmware section
hey guys,
hope everyone is having a great weekend, i was so pleased to find out that rogers finally released the official ICS update for my galaxy s2 skyrocket lte, so i get it updated today.. and one the TW launcher is so ugly and non customizable and worthless so i am in the midst of deciding on one that i like, so far ive tried ICS pro launcher. my main problem with my phone after upgrading to ICS is the fact that the swype typing is so slow and laggy you can barley hold on a conversation, it just seems like ICS slowed down my phone a crap ton, and mind you i have not rooted my phone at all nor have i ever installed a custom rom on this phone, what do you think could be the problem? the phone itself is so laggy, anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
-Davey
just to reiterate i did the update over samsung KIES, am i supposed to do a hard or a soft reset?
Maybe you should give other launchers a go, I use Apex myself, but Nova is also pretty good for ICS.
nthuser said:
Maybe you should give other launchers a go, I use Apex myself, but Nova is also pretty good for ICS.
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Do you think that would affect my swype lag? also if i wanted to wipe everything and start fresh can i do that with odin without being rooted/
davey818 said:
Do you think that would affect my swype lag? also if i wanted to wipe everything and start fresh can i do that with odin without being rooted/
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factory data reset is the best way just boot up to the default androdi recovery (same way as you would with CWM) then clear data/wipe. Then you want to disable all that crap rogers installs on our phones (stupid one music, one contacts bs) and other crap that samsung installs on our phones. In my opinion CM9 is much faster and better then the ICS rogers rom.
EDIT: I got a brand new replacement for my i727r so I didn't want to root it yet cause its in mint condition lol so thats what I did to keep the stock at decent speed
When ICS will be available for at&t I will format the whole phone in CWM then flash ICS tar in Odin...That way did a great impact on ICS speed when I was using Nexus s...OTA over the old gingerbread was slow as hell, but when I did a clean install from scratch phone was way faster...and even better battery life ..I never really liked update rather than a fresh install in any software matter...
samsung kies
mahanddeem said:
When ICS will be available for at&t I will format the whole phone in CWM then flash ICS tar in Odin...That way did a great impact on ICS speed when I was using Nexus s...OTA over the old gingerbread was slow as hell, but when I did a clean install from scratch phone was way faster...and even better battery life ..I never really liked update rather than a fresh install in any software matter...
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True say thank you very much, just one more question is there a section that touches base on kies issues in here? for some reason after the update to ICS my computer no longer sees my phone i tried reinstalling the drivers and kies several times.
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True say thank you very much, just one more question is there a section that touches base on kies issues in here? for some reason after the update to ICS my computer no longer sees my phone i tried reinstalling the drivers and kies several times.
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Kies is a very stupid software full of bugs and slow ..Why you need it anyway ? you can backup your pics files ...etc... using the USB connection , other things like contact are already on your google account ... So I don't see what kies is important for ...
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Grab the official Rogers ICS tar from sammobile.com and ODIN it to your phone...(that's after you wipe/format every partition (cache,data,system) in CWM recovery)...
I bricked my unlocked Captivate (bought on Amazon for $240 - I was avoiding a data plan) trying to get Ice Cream Sandwich on it. The phone was rooted.
Initially, the phone was only loading a Samsung splash screen when I tried to get it into normal mode. However, recovery mode was working; it would boot into Clockworkmod. Which is a bad thing considering they would easily tell I had messed with it!
So, I loaded the phone into Download mode and tried to flash the stock ROM using Odin. Odin said "failed" and now my phone was completely soft bricked, and the infamous "[phone]-----/!\-----[computer]" screen was showing up. Download mode worked though. I tried to flash all types of stock and custom ROMs to no avail. Now, recovery and normal modes don't work while Download mode does.
So, I called Samsung and told them it wasn't working; they told me it was still under warranty and I could send it in for repairs.
My question would be: will Samsung repair my phone, or will they find out I messed with it and refuse to do so? Also, if they find out, how much will I have to pay them to fix it?
Getting a new phone is out of the question... I might just buy
If there is an odin flash counter on download mode, they will figure it out if you have messed with it. If there's not, make a good story. Was it on 2.3.6 already when you bought it?
If you can get into download your not bricked. The screen you see is kernel panic. You will have to flash a proper kernel to get it to boot back up.
Sent for a corner cell in Arkham
Yeah, you can still fix it. No need it to bring to samsung
Has anyone sent a bricked phone in to Samsung before?
I tried flashing stock Captivate Gingerbread kernels to no avail. I googled and googled, and I tried everything I found. Including Odin and heimdall.
It was running Gingerbread 2.3.5 when I updated it myself to Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.3. It was running beautifully. Then I tried to recover my backed-up data, which worked, but then I tried to reboot the phone and it wouldn't boot.
And no, I don't remember seeing any "flash counter." Would they still be able to tell?
Has anyone sent a bricked phone in to Samsung before? If so, what were the results?
Also, how much do you think Samsung would charge me to fix it if they found out and voided the warranty? Hopefully less than $50? And they would charge me for shipping too, right?
random_person1308 said:
I tried flashing stock Captivate Gingerbread kernels to no avail. I googled and googled, and I tried everything I found. Including Odin and heimdall.
It was running Gingerbread 2.3.5 when I updated it myself to Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.3. It was running beautifully. Then I tried to recover my backed-up data, which worked, but then I tried to reboot the phone and it wouldn't boot.
And no, I don't remember seeing any "flash counter." Would they still be able to tell?
Has anyone sent a bricked phone in to Samsung before? If so, what were the results?
Also, how much do you think Samsung would charge me to fix it if they found out and voided the warranty? Hopefully less than $50? And they would charge me for shipping too, right?
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You recovered your apps thru TB? If yes, Didn't you read that you're not supposed to restore apps from titanium from GB to ICS? Might cause problem like this. No flash counter, they're not gonna notice this. Have you tried flashing again stock GB rom?(not just a kernel but a rom) And when you flashed that GB kernel, was that after you flash an ICS rom? Remember, when you're on ICS, you must use ICS kernel and not GB kernel. If it didnt work Just make a good story! Tell them you updated it through kies and updating was interrupted. Im pretty sure 2.3.6 is out on captivate. If they tell you its your fault for updating it, ask them why did they put update on kies when you can't even use it. Plus, they didn't warn you not to update it.
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You recovered your apps thru TB? If yes, Didn't you read that you're not supposed to restore apps from titanium from GB to ICS? Might cause problem like this. No flash counter, they're not gonna notice this. Have you tried flashing again stock GB rom?(not just a kernel but a rom) And when you flashed that GB kernel, was that after you flash an ICS rom? Remember, when you're on ICS, you must use ICS kernel and not GB kernel. If it didnt work Just make a good story! Tell them you updated it through kies and updating was interrupted. Im pretty sure 2.3.6 is out on captivate. If they tell you its your fault for updating it, ask them why did they put update on kies when you can't even use it. Plus, they didn't warn you not to update it.
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No, I used Clockworkmod to recover data. It worked, and then I hit "reboot system now," and the phone wouldn't boot.
I already shipped the phone off, but thanks for the help, I really appreciate it! If Samsung doesn't fix it I know what to do now!
Ok, so I've been doing some research over the past few weeks and I figured out what I did wrong. I inadvertently tried doing a Nandroid restore (i.e. - restoring the whole system) instead of just apps. And I didn't wipe data first. That's why it was failing to boot. Why I couldn't flash the stock kernel from Odin; I have no idea.
As for the phone; Samsung fixed it free of charge (all they had to do was a reset...) and sent it back to me.
After getting it back, I rooted and installed Clockworkmod recovery using Corn kernel version 7.05. Geeve420 has an excellent guide over on androidforums.com. Then I flashed Cyanogenmod9 RC2, then Slim ICS version 4.2. It's running smoothly, though in 24 hours I have had 1 freeze (I did a battery pull and restarted) and a few force closes.
I also installed that Google Now app (the thread on XDA is called "The Google Now for ICS Project"). In other words, I went from being a complete n00b to getting JellyBean software on my phone! All I did was follow the directions, step-by-step, and it worked.
Thanks to all who helped!
random_person1308 said:
Ok, so I've been doing some research over the past few weeks and I figured out what I did wrong. I inadvertently tried doing a Nandroid restore (i.e. - restoring the whole system) instead of just apps. And I didn't wipe data first. That's why it was failing to boot. Why I couldn't flash the stock kernel from Odin; I have no idea.
As for the phone; Samsung fixed it free of charge (all they had to do was a reset...) and sent it back to me.
After getting it back, I rooted and installed Clockworkmod recovery using Corn kernel version 7.05. Geeve420 has an excellent guide over on androidforums.com. Then I flashed Cyanogenmod9 RC2, then Slim ICS version 4.2. It's running smoothly, though in 24 hours I have had 1 freeze (I did a battery pull and restarted) and a few force closes.
I also installed that Google Now app (the thread on XDA is called "The Google Now for ICS Project"). In other words, I went from being a complete n00b to getting JellyBean software on my phone! All I did was follow the directions, step-by-step, and it worked.
Thanks to all who helped!
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Good for you then Try not to mess with it again. Haha. Do a lot of reading if you're a little hesistant. Plus, asking before doing so is not problem. We have a lot of helpful xda members here to guide you. Goodluck!
I have ATT i727 Skyrocket that was at 4.1.x and working fine for months.
I rooted the phone about 6 months ago. All OK.
Yesterday phone locked up. I pulled battery to reboot. Phone stopped at Samsung word boot screen.
I got TWRP re-installed, then gingerbread tar 2.3.5 installed. phone now works.
Will not OTA to ICS. Will download, reboot and get to 25% and fail.
ODIN says YES 2 and Custom for ROM.
I can't find a tar image of ICS and would like to reset counter to zero, maybe unroot, go back to orig. firmware and then ICS.
Please, any suggestions? Thank you.
Alan - [email protected]
Go to sammobile.com for the stock firmware
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alanmcbride said:
I have ATT i727 Skyrocket that was at 4.1.x and working fine for months.
I rooted the phone about 6 months ago. All OK.
Yesterday phone locked up. I pulled battery to reboot. Phone stopped at Samsung word boot screen.
I got TWRP re-installed, then gingerbread tar 2.3.5 installed. phone now works.
Will not OTA to ICS. Will download, reboot and get to 25% and fail.
ODIN says YES 2 and Custom for ROM.
I can't find a tar image of ICS and would like to reset counter to zero, maybe unroot, go back to orig. firmware and then ICS.
Please, any suggestions? Thank you.
Alan - [email protected]
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Here are som ICS TARs:
Rogers Canada (imo less bloatware than AT&T):
http://hotfile.com/dl/163303882/02796f1/
AT&T USA:
http://hotfile.com/dl/162903193/644c77d/
Telcel Mexico (someone said it has a sim lock, read here):
http://hotfile.com/dl/182237393/93f6637/
everything u need is in the sticky NEWB GUIDES To: | RESTORE TO STOCK
how did u increase your counter, its been ages since there was a tar file that did that