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Yesterday my brother bought an HTC 7 SURROUND phone......
as i booted it showed some DFT(dark forces team) which i suppose is to be some WP7 sutom rom's logo screen....
I doubt whether its an official htc rom.......
Maybe some cud plz help on my doubt........
Its sim unlocked i mean the operator is at&t but i can use other sims....coz its unlcoked. So is that maybe for unlcoking the sellers flash some unlocked rom? or sim unlcoking can be done without flashing unlocked rom?....
so in simple words i wanted to know whether the fone is used or not? since it has a DFT rom
And is it needed to flash a custom rom in order to sim unlock the fone so that other operator sim cards can be used or sim unlocking doesnt need any custom rom flshing.
wanted to confirm. plz help!...

No..
I believe that SIM Unlock and ROM Unlock are different.
You've got a both full unlocked, and SIM unlocked phone. I guess that means its 2nd use phone.
Sorry, bro.

It's hard to parse out what you mean in your message, so I'll tell you what I think.
Custom ROM's do not perform SIM-Unlock. You need a code for that.
If your device booted up with DFT, then it has definitely received some form of rooting/custom treatment. Were the device untouched, it would give a splash screen of HTC or the carrier that it was sold through.

@anseio is correct.
First of all, you definitely have a second-hand phone. It sounds like your phone has a DFT (custom) ROM installed on it, which means somebody had to first modify the bootloader (install HSPL) and then re-flash the ROM. This is not necessarily a bad thing, and you can re-flash a stock ROM to it easily if you want to, but if you expect the phone to be new... it's not.
Also, I'm not sure why you'd expect the phone to come with WP7.0. These days, all new Windows phones should come with WP7.5 (Mango) or later; Mango came out over six months ago. If you realllly want an older version of the OS for soem reason, though, you can find an old stock ROM and flash that.
As for the SIM unlock, that's completely independent of the custom ROM or unlocked bootloader. It could even be the way the phone was originally; is it carrier branded (i.e. does it say "AT&T" or perhaps some Indian mobile operator's name/logo on it somewhere, for example)? Some phones are sold already SIM-unlocked. SIM unlock isn't going to hurt anything, in fact, outside the US I would never put up with a SIM-locked phone and even inside the US I would never buy a phone that I couldn't SIM-unlock (because I like to travel).

thnx for ur reply guys.

GoodDayToDie said:
@anseio is correct.
First of all, you definitely have a second-hand phone. It sounds like your phone has a DFT (custom) ROM installed on it, which means somebody had to first modify the bootloader (install HSPL) and then re-flash the ROM. This is not necessarily a bad thing, and you can re-flash a stock ROM to it easily if you want to, but if you expect the phone to be new... it's not.
Also, I'm not sure why you'd expect the phone to come with WP7.0. These days, all new Windows phones should come with WP7.5 (Mango) or later; Mango came out over six months ago. If you realllly want an older version of the OS for soem reason, though, you can find an old stock ROM and flash that.
As for the SIM unlock, that's completely independent of the custom ROM or unlocked bootloader. It could even be the way the phone was originally; is it carrier branded (i.e. does it say "AT&T" or perhaps some Indian mobile operator's name/logo on it somewhere, for example)? Some phones are sold already SIM-unlocked. SIM unlock isn't going to hurt anything, in fact, outside the US I would never put up with a SIM-locked phone and even inside the US I would never buy a phone that I couldn't SIM-unlock (because I like to travel).
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ya its carrier branded at&t.....

the fone was ordered from ebay....so shud i ask for a replacement.? and even the charger has lots of scratches on it veen thought it came in with nice htc quality sealed plastic case.

Ebay has put nama on yor forehead
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Please can some one help???

Hi
Please can anyone help?
I am new to this so you might have to be a little patient with me. I have an Orange SPV M600 (UK) that I assume I will need to unlock as I am moving to Spain very soon, am I right in saying that it has to be unlocked before I can use a Spanish SIM card in it or will it work anyway? Or unlocking my phone will only allow me to use other network SIM cards within the uk? Does this make sense?
I have flashed the phone with the Dopod Rom update great all the Orange stuff has vanished and I am ready to go…..
So here goes. I have tried to unlock my phone any way as it will not do any harm
I have tried the older version and the latest version of Lokiwiz03 but it still does not want to unlock it.
I have tried numerous downloads but I keep coming up against PROPHETv2Unlock I don’t wish to pay out for this code if too this doesn’t work!
Any Ideas on how I can simply type my IME number into a smart but of software that can generate a little bit of code and drop it into something like the Prophet thing and hey presto its unlocked
Can any one point me please into the right direction PLEASE???
I am going bald!
Nick
Well, since you have flashed it with a Dopod ROM, chances is that it may have been unlocked anyway. Get yourself a (say) T-mobile SIM PAYG card, that cost like 2 pounds over the net, which will get to your home within days. Try that on the phone to make sure that it is unlock.
What is the message that tells you that your phone is not unlocked?
Thanks will give it a go!

[Q] How to SIM Unlock without unlock code?

hey..
my LG P500 Optimus One with Froyo 2.2 is sim locked in Vodafone RO, and won't accept other service providers.
Is it possible to unlock the service provider without generated codes using IMEI?
VODAFONE charges 40e for unlock code (and others, about the same price), and i bought the lg for less than that, on a 2 years contract.
rooting and installing custom fw will unlock my lg?
please help. thanks in advance.
koolariz said:
hey..
my LG P500 Optimus One with Froyo 2.2 is sim locked in Vodafone RO, and won't accept other service providers.
Is it possible to unlock the service provider without generated codes using IMEI?
VODAFONE charges 40e for unlock code (and others, about the same price), and i bought the lg for less than that, on a 2 years contract.
rooting and installing custom fw will unlock my lg?
please help. thanks in advance.
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I'm not absolutly sure, but I think that yes.
hmm.. can you be more specific?
koolariz said:
hmm.. can you be more specific?
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In this thread guy needs help "How to enter unlock code" into his device. If I tried enter this code, my original FW from LG said me, that is not possible do that, because of "Device is not customized". So, I think, that flashing of original FW can unlock phone.
On other side - operators can lock phone in their network based on IMEI and because IMEI is not changed during flashing, it's possible, that id will not work.
I would like to test it for you, but I haven't locket phone. Here are sellers not allowed to sim-locking their devices.
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I just readed some stuff around and it seems that this information is stored into GSM Module firmware.
Here is Czech thread (google translator) were guy trying to solve sim-locking. I just posted him PM if he have somewhere on net how-to manual for do that.
The_ERROR said:
//Edit:
I just readed some stuff around and it seems that this information is stored into GSM Module firmware.
Here is Czech thread (google translator) were guy trying to solve sim-locking. I just posted him PM if he have somewhere on net how-to manual for do that.
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thanks..
it's simple to enter unlock code (just call 2945#*500#) and it's simple to get unlock code for about 30$ ) that's not what i'm after.
i think it's foolish to pay 30$ for a code to unlock a phone which i paid about 40$. (why did i make a 2 year contract then...?)
interesting stuff those cz guys try. ill be watching that thread..
PS: i officialy hate google for not implementing proxy settings :|
I don't think your going to unlock your device with a custom firmware. In the others Android's LG cells, it wasn't possible.
There is a "simple way", you can try to find an app that allow you to remove the battery to swap your sim card. There was one for the LG GW620.
You can also wait to buy an cheap unlock code on internet, or a "Magic Sim" (I'm not so sure it's going to work, but it's 5 bucks).
killdashnine said:
I don't think your going to unlock your device with a custom firmware. In the others Android's LG cells, it wasn't possible.
There is a "simple way", you can try to find an app that allow you to remove the battery to swap your sim card. There was one for the LG GW620.
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swapping sim is an interesting idea..
i tried it with no success. you don't need an app.
it's true, if you remove the battery the phone restarts, when plugged in.
but if you keep android "busy" he won't restart (i kept my finger on the screen and slided between pages while i removed the battery and swapped the sim)
no luck the phone doesn't say service provider locked like when i restart with the simcard in, it just doesn't register the network "Emergency calls only".
The lockscreen says "no SIM card"
it doesn't change when i swap again with the original.
thank's for the tips..
i'll dig up on magic sim. see what's that about.
Same here.
Would really like to find a way to network unlock the P500.
Paying the phone's price all over again isn't fair.
Not having root access isn't fair either, but security comes first.
calin_ionesco said:
Same here.
Would really like to find a way to network unlock the P500.
Paying the phone's price all over again isn't fair.
Not having root access isn't fair either, but security comes first.
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Thanks god that in our country doesn't exist any kind of this stupid thinks like operator's network locking. It was prohibited by law.
It is really hard to find some tool, that can this do. Especially if this stuff are stored in GSM module. You need special technique and resources to reach goal.
Hi everyone,
I'm a newbie with smart phones and a newbie with the P500... hens "I don't know if what I will say applies" in unlocking the phone.
A funny thing happened to me the other day - the phone was charging in the USB port of my computer - it was not in "removable memory" mode. The computer had to be rebooted and I forgot to unplug the phone from the USB port.
Guess what... I had no more service after rebooting the computer - had to call up tech department of the cell company. They made me manually choose their company in the settings menu. Don't know why but the cell phone company info was "unprogrammed" after reboot.
So as I said - maybe this will give you guys (who know more than me for the moment) a lead to finding the solution of this thread's question.
Cheers !
Phratt
Salut. Si eu sunt roman, am avut telefonul blocat in vodfone si ma intrebam acelasi lucru.
Hi im from Romania too and i used to have the same problem. I sent the phone to a knone cellphone hacker from Iasi and he unlocked my phone for 30 lei (around 10 bucks).the phone had a lot of that vodafone bulls*** with vodafone default homepage, vodafone app for i-dont-know-what and romanian android menu.so after i recived the phone from that guy it was unlocked.but i think he might flashed a new OS because my phone was empty, like new ,and i loosed the default romanian language.,and it was having a newer version of sofware on him.it was like a neverlocked phone xD.So i think if you will flash another rom, like that one for europe in your case ,i think it will unlock your phone.oh yea ,and that bastards from VodafoneRomania asked me for 50 euros !!!!! I i'ved unlocked it for around 10 euros ) .
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So bad for the SIM swapping, I was using an app to avoid the cell to restart, and It was well working on the LG Eve GW620. But after, LG has given me a Free unlocked LG Optimus (here in France, LG has posted a news to give Free optimus one. I was just asked to fill a long form to make a review between the Eve and the Optimus).
Something good to do would be to ask someone to monitor using adb the functions used when unlocking the P500 using an official networking code.
Did any one to free unlock a LG P500 locked on Vodafone RO ???
I know that there is a GSM Unloking Tool called Vygis that can unlock this phone by flashing it with a unloked firmware...but I don't have it.
Any other options???
I too would like to share my experiences with locked phones.
My Lg optimus one was locked (untill last week) to a spanish mobile provider (movistar); at first i tryed to flash an unbranded firmware, then a custom rom but with the same result: locked phone.
The reason for this is that unlike certain "dumbphones" which can be unlocked via s/w, my Lg was locked through imei. In these cases there are only two solutions(some one correct me if I'm wrong), ask the mobile provider to unlock it (not always possible) or buy un unlock code online.
I used the second method, it cost me just above 10euros and it was realy fast.
Havent had any sort of problems what so ever and now i can use any sim card.
I've bought my P500 for 620 RON (145~150 Euro) form o guy from the internet (a site similar to eBay but only available in Romania),new, not used, already unlocked, with LG Warranty (not Vodafone Warranty, even that i've got the full pack (phone + silicon/rubber case) )... And Yes it was blocked to Vodafone network, but that guy unlocked it in same price (something like a bonus)...
I'be bought it from here: hxxp://www(dot)okazii(dot)ro/catalog/51741498/lg-optimus-one-p500.html
This phone can be unlocked in services, for around 9~17 Euro, but I'mnot sure about the Vodafone Warranty, you might lose it ...
hxxp://www(dot)okazii(dot)ro/catalog/51642265/service-gsm-decodare-lg-p503-p500-decodez-lg-p503-google.html
hxxp://www(dot)okazii(dot)ro/catalog/52018583/lg-optimus-one-p500-decodez-prin-cod-70ron.html
Or you can go to Big Berceni or Obor, but people from these services are sneaky/greedy, usualy say a price after they look at you...
replace hxxp with http and (dot) with .
Overall is a great phone, great OS, great hardware, great battery life ... the only downside is the lack of Flash.. and I don't mean Flash 10.1, but it doesn't even have the Flash Lite 3.1/4.0
Hi all.
Please tell me what happened with phone after 10 unsuccessful attempts entering unlock code? my phone - optimus T P509
seller sended me not correct unlock code and i have 1 attempt to unlock my phone.
Sorry for my bad english
This me quoting from other thread
sovikhaque said:
2945#*500# doesn't work on my phone. i am using CM7 Rom by Mik
I came across a site which is selling LG unlock code for €8.00 but i don't know how to enter the code.
And also when i insert a sim from different network, it doesn't ask for unlock code or doesn't even show that my phone is restricted. Only says no network. Is that because i am no using LG branded rom?
I took the phone to a unlocking shop and they said they could unlock the phone by connecting it to a computer. By changing some firmware details. But i am not too sure about this. I am using Mik's rom and i don't want them to change anything around. I have custom recovery installed and i little afraid about this. And i am also afraid that after they change the firmware will i be able to flash new ROM? and if i flash new ROM will that lock my phone again?
So if you guys have any idea, please share
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sovikhaque said:
This me quoting from other thread
2945#*500# doesn't work on my phone. i am using CM7 Rom by Mik
I came across a site which is selling LG unlock code for €8.00 but i don't know how to enter the code.
And also when i insert a sim from different network, it doesn't ask for unlock code or doesn't even show that my phone is restricted. Only says no network. Is that because i am no using LG branded rom?
I took the phone to a unlocking shop and they said they could unlock the phone by connecting it to a computer. By changing some firmware details. But i am not too sure about this. I am using Mik's rom and i don't want them to change anything around. I have custom recovery installed and i little afraid about this. And i am also afraid that after they change the firmware will i be able to flash new ROM? and if i flash new ROM will that lock my phone again?
So if you guys have any idea, please share
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Same thing is happening with me for LG optimus 3d
ceva noutati? something news ?
TGeorgeMihai said:
I've bought my P500 for 620 RON (145~150 Euro) form o guy from the internet (a site similar to eBay but only available in Romania),new, not used, already unlocked, with LG Warranty (not Vodafone Warranty, even that i've got the full pack (phone + silicon/rubber case) )... And Yes it was blocked to Vodafone network, but that guy unlocked it in same price (something like a bonus)...
I'be bought it from here: hxxp://www(dot)okazii(dot)ro/catalog/51741498/lg-optimus-one-p500.html
This phone can be unlocked in services, for around 9~17 Euro, but I'mnot sure about the Vodafone Warranty, you might lose it ...
hxxp://www(dot)okazii(dot)ro/catalog/51642265/service-gsm-decodare-lg-p503-p500-decodez-lg-p503-google.html
hxxp://www(dot)okazii(dot)ro/catalog/52018583/lg-optimus-one-p500-decodez-prin-cod-70ron.html
Or you can go to Big Berceni or Obor, but people from these services are sneaky/greedy, usualy say a price after they look at you...
replace hxxp with http and (dot) with .
Overall is a great phone, great OS, great hardware, great battery life ... the only downside is the lack of Flash.. and I don't mean Flash 10.1, but it doesn't even have the Flash Lite 3.1/4.0
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Lot of flash mods available in themes n apps section ..in having flash 11.0 working flawlessly..
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[Q] Droid 2 Global noob

Hello, first let me say i am not new to android, i use to have a X10, and flashed and moded a little bit so i am no afraid to move the android guts in my phone.
Now, i bougth a D2G because i really ned a qwerty keyboard, and because is the best shot for my.
I am overseas, so no in USA, it came unlocked as the ebay vendor says, but...
1.-The D2G seems to come GSM unlocked, but made an upgrade to the last firmware released by verizon and now is locked again, bougth unlock codes from 3 diferent sellers all the same 2, none of there worked so 6 intents to unlock are burned only 4 left i think. so where can i get a working code?, i am not in USA, neither can reach verizon network from where i am now.
2.-I have a pccard whit cdma 3 g service here in my country, is possible to program the config and prl of the pccard to the phone to have data connection, i understand i will not have voice or sms as my service is data only, but is at least posible?
3.-For what i understand there are just one custom rom, defuse team, out there for using in the D2G, but i seen other deodexed "stock" rom, is it safe to use? as in i will/could not lose the GSM unlock (if i unlock it again).
I know some, if not all, of this issues are adressed in other posts but maybe dont get it, so i respectfully ask to someone who can help me to do so.
Thank you for any help you could provide me.

Network locked sensations.

I am planning to buy a second hand sensation from eBay and wanted to know if the phone is locked or unlocked to a network. Can I then load on the same software you would get on a sim free version. The reason for this is so I can get ota updates when HTC send them and not have to wait for the network provider to tinker before hand.
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I'm not sure that you could tell whether it was tied to a network without asking the seller.
The tied phones are no different to the SIM-free ones, except that they have the "S-ON" set, are not rooted, and in some cases (e.g. Orange) are loaded with bloatware (who really wants a 3-turn demo of monopoly that cannot easily be removed?! )
However, once you have the phone, you can use the instructions on this site, e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 to break it free and install whatever you want!
As far as updates go, they seem to appear here far faster than they get pushed out, and there are some much better than stock ROMs. If you want to stay stock, look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193033. In addition, some kind soul has collated all the ROMS here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559 so that you can change as you want.
I would just buy it and not worry!
Ok just got a sensation off ebay for £240 and its locked to orange. will follow advice from links above to root and get s off etc but from the list of roms which is the current and most up to date stock uk unlocked sim free rom?
will this also give the same root and s off to flash any rom i wish?
http://lifehacker.com/5789397/the-always-up+to+date-guide-to-rooting-any-android-phone
Bootloader unlocking, rooting, and getting S-OFF.... all have nothing to do with SIM unlocking. Your phone will still be locked to only Orange SIMs unless you obtain and enter an unlock code.
follow steps here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
you need to root etc first.. then sim unlock
That's odd.
I didn't do the extra step, and I was able to use a T-Mobile SIM regardless. Mine came from Orange too. Perhaps there are some that are unlocked anyway, or perhaps it's because T-Mobile are part of the same group now??
In any case, glad that someone was able to help out!

How to tell if it is SIM locked or not..?

Is there a way to tell if the htc one s is SIM locked or not..?
I've got the one s which has O2 CID and runs O2 version of JB on it but I don't think the phone is actually sim locked as o2 dont tend to sim lock their phones, is there a way to tell without getting hold of a different carrier sim..?
Thanks
topcat888 said:
Is there a way to tell if the htc one s is SIM locked or not..?
I've got the one s which has O2 CID and runs O2 version of JB on it but I don't think the phone is actually sim locked as o2 dont tend to sim lock their phones, is there a way to tell without getting hold of a different carrier sim..?
Thanks
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Put another SIM Card in it. If you're referring to O2 - UK then I assure you that the phone will be locked. Unless you buy it from phones4u, carphone warehouse or fonehouse, the phone will ALWAYS be simlocked. It's the networks way of making sure your custom stays with them, becuase they know that most people can't be arsed to go through the hassle of unlocking your phone. If you're planning on rooting, you can SIM unlock your phone for free, and there is absolutely zero risk of you breaking the phone because you're not re-writing any files, you just need SuperUser access to read them.
kylepont said:
Put another SIM Card in it. If you're referring to O2 - UK then I assure you that the phone will be locked. Unless you buy it from phones4u, carphone warehouse or fonehouse, the phone will ALWAYS be simlocked. It's the networks way of making sure your custom stays with them, becuase they know that most people can't be arsed to go through the hassle of unlocking your phone. If you're planning on rooting, you can SIM unlock your phone for free, and there is absolutely zero risk of you breaking the phone because you're not re-writing any files, you just need SuperUser access to read them.
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