[Q] Picture looks like crap over HDMI. - Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Bought a micro hdmi to my tablet today. The guy in the store gave me one when I said it was for my Transformer Pad.
The thing is that the picture I get on my tv looks cartoonish, like when you take a photo and put on a effect that looks like you painted it yourself.
Anyone know why it looks like ****?

Unfortunately, that is the quality we get. Both TF101 and TF300T look about the same over hdmi, maybe the 300 is slightly better. The only thing u can really do is to have a high quality cable, and make adjustments to your tv's color, contrast, and picture size. My guess as to why this is...it probly has something to do with using the micro hdmi connector instead of a full size connector...the small connector is the bottleneck, reducing the throughput and quality.

I don't know about pictures, I'll have to try some. I do know that my HD movies looks perfect on my 46" TV. I've never paid more than $5 for any HDMI cable, if you pay more than that you're probably getting ripped off or just paying to have someones name printed on it. HDMI is digital, 1's and 0's, there's really no difference in cables, the old style RCA cables were analog, and needed to be short length and high quality. You can google it if you don't believe it.

cavsoldier19d said:
My guess as to why this is...it probly has something to do with using the micro hdmi connector instead of a full size connector...the small connector is the bottleneck, reducing the throughput and quality.
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LOL! What BS! HDMI is a digital signal not analog. With digital there is either a signal or no no signal. The micro cable conforms to the same HDMI spec as the regular cable so there can be no quality loss.
The last time I connect my TF101 to my TV it looked fine. No cartoons. And I'm using some cheap cable from Amazon.

My tv picture looks awesome when connected through hdmi. Probably 10 times better than the display on the tablet due to full hd.
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cholywell said:
LOL! What BS! HDMI is a digital signal not analog. With digital there is either a signal or no no signal. The micro cable conforms to the same HDMI spec as the regular cable so there can be no quality loss.
The last time I connect my TF101 to my TV it looked fine. No cartoons. And I'm using some cheap cable from Amazon.
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Wow dude...who pissed in your wheaties? I didn't say that this was the absolute truth. It was my guess...If i am wrong, then i am wrong...IT WAS A GUESS! Take that chip off of your shoulder and take a chill pill.
I know what he was talking about..the homescreen looks a bit cartoonish because of the colors, but it does not have this effect when viewing movies and other things.

It has this effect all the time, on the homescreen and watching movies and pictures.
I didn't want to order a cable so I bought a over priced one for about $20. (Yes it was expensive but I am lazy )
I think the cable i pretty good, even supportin 4k resulution, but what do I know
Should I return the cable sense te quality is really bad? My Lg KU990 Viewty from 2007 did a much better job when connected to a tv, movies looked great, so a device from 2012 should be better.

Well according to the guys above, it doesnt matter if the cable is a namebrand or not. I would have to disagree. Not all cables are made equal. Different manufacturers use different quality of materials which can lead to different results. Give it a shot and replace the cable. Doesn't hurt to try. I just cant see it being a tv problem. If it was, then why would my ps3 and xbox360 both connected by hdmi not have this problem? That leaves the cable and the connecting device left to look at.

cavsoldier19d said:
Well according to the guys above, it doesnt matter if the cable is a namebrand or not. I would have to disagree. Not all cables are made equal. Different manufacturers use different quality of materials which can lead to different results. Give it a shot and replace the cable. Doesn't hurt to try. I just cant see it being a tv problem. If it was, then why would my ps3 and xbox360 both connected by hdmi not have this problem? That leaves the cable and the connecting device left to look at.
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Yes, the picture quality is great from my 360. I will return the cable someday soon then.

There are setting available on the Pad once you have plugged HDMI in but I think they only control the screen ration.
The first thing I would check on your TV is if there are any custom enabled when using HDMI (Vibrant, or Game etc.). You may find that your TV is adding image processing which can result in garish colours or a very unbalanced Gamma curve.
The only time you would need to worry about picture quality from the cable itself is if you went for a freakishly long one, say 3M+. Then you'd noticed some signal degradation as the bit errors would increase significantly though this would more likely produce ghosting or image lag.

Above poster got the cable info correct.
A 3+M cable should use super leads, so if it doesn't work it's crap.
In other words there are two kinds of HDMI cables. The working kind and crap.
The working kind can be any price (from cheap to insanely expensive), but IF you're buying a really, really long cable you can start looking at name brands.

My cable is 2 m. Going to watch Burn Notice on another tv. Will see if it's better there.

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TV Out - Pictures

Ok, I can't find the post that asked for details about the TV Out cable, but mine arrived today, so I've attached a few pics of it in action.
When you plug the cable in, you're asked which type of output you want to use (PAL or NTSC). Once you choose, the device forces itself into landscape mode and displays the "Video Out" screen with four shortcuts (Powerpoint, Pics & Vids, Internet, YouTube).
You can choose one of the shortcuts, or just go to the Start Menu - everything is mirrored on the TV screen. I used Coreplayer to start playing an XVid of "Be Kind Rewind". There was a bit of flicker when using the "Qtv Display" option, but the "DirectDraw" option was flicker free, and worked flawlessly. No slowdown or judder at all with my 700Mb file, and the picture quality on the TV was surprisingly good.
Programs like YouTube which have to be displayed in Portrait mode, and pictures displayed in portrait mode are shown with black bars on the sides of the TV screen, while the device just rotates itself back to portrait mode.
Opera looks good on the big screen too, there's a picture of the BBC homepage, with plenty of small text, which is certainly more readable on a 32" screen than it is on a 2.8" screen...
Any questions, ask away, but I think it's pretty self explanatory...
Edit: One more thing. While I was taking these pictures, I received a call. Pressing the "Answer" button put the phone in Speakerphone mode, with the audio routed through the TV - very good quality it was too.
Cool, thanks for posting. I was hoping to hold out for a while, but I think I might have to jump on one of these whenever they are released in the US. Hopefully the CDMA version isn't too crippled compared to the GSM version. I'd switch to a GSM carrier, but I only pay $30 a month for 500 minutes, unlimited text/pic messages, unlimited data, etc. AT&T just can't beat that.
Great shots!!
sub69 said:
Ok, I can't find the post that asked for details about the TV Out cable, but mine arrived today, so I've attached a few pics of it in action.
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Dude...I don't know if it's your TV or the camera you're using but these shots are AMAZING!
It looks like I'll be able to sell my projector and do my PPT presentations straight from the TP.
Can't wait!! Thanks for sharing!
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The TV's over two years old now, but I still haven't found one that gives a better picture (annoying - because I'm trying find a 42" upgrade).
Camera was just a Nokia N95 that I have to hand, and the pics were shrunk to get them below the forum posting limit.
When you plug it can you touch the TV instead of the phone screen?
JK of course!
Very good quality, even web browsing looks very decent! Where did you buy the cable, and how much did you pay?
The dreaded Expansys, I'm afraid:
£16.99 for the cable
£8.49 for a 3.5mm headphone adapter
£4.06 for delivery
£10 off with a voucher
£19.54 total
I think they make up the delivery prices as they go along?!
Was really worried what the performance would be like when playing videos as I read alot it's mainly for presentations.
Now, I feel ok with the upcoming purchase
Thx man
This is the first device in ages where using DirectDraw in CorePlayer doesn't mean stuttering and page tearing to at least some extent.
And there's no need to worry, performance doesn't alter at all when the TV cable is plugged in.
It can only be a good thing that you can plug the charger into the TV cable though, because the screen stays lit on the device while you're watching through the TV. For a two hour movie, I'm pretty sure the battery would take a big hit...
That is so amazing! Do you think you can post of shot of you going through a PowerPoint presentation?
WOW! that's really awesome. I can make use of that.
The Raphael, Is A Must Got To Have Mobile Device
This is the reason that I have to have this mobile device, the Raphael a superior highly enhanced mobile device, revealing yet to be now technology, TV out, nice photos guys, yeah..........!
Can you try to do remote desktop on your touch pro?
What is the tv-out resolution? is it 1024 x 768?
Does it has vga-out?
thanks.
sub69 said:
The dreaded Expansys, I'm afraid:
£16.99 for the cable
£8.49 for a 3.5mm headphone adapter
£4.06 for delivery
£10 off with a voucher
£19.54 total
I think they make up the delivery prices as they go along?!
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Thanks for sharing sub69 Great Phototo's - Ordered mine yesterday together with the Desktop stand and the 3.5mm headphone adapter - says "3 Days" for stock but wanted to use the £10 voucher - Cant wait!!!! - I have a 52" Plasma TV - will post some photo's once my cable arrives!!!
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hkultraman said:
Can you try to do remote desktop on your touch pro?
What is the tv-out resolution? is it 1024 x 768?
Does it has vga-out?
thanks.
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I'll give remote desktop a go on Monday when I'm back at home.
No idea what the output resolution is, but I'd be surprised if it was anything other than 640 x 480, the image on a widescreen TV appears to be stretched slightly to fit the width.
It's just composite, not VGA. I guess you could try using a VGA cable from an HTC Advantage, but I have no idea if that'd work...
Blob8me said:
Thanks for sharing sub69 Great Phototo's - Ordered mine yesterday together with the Desktop stand and the 3.5mm headphone adapter - says "3 Days" for stock but wanted to use the £10 voucher - Cant wait!!!! - I have a 52" Plasma TV - will post some photo's once my cable arrives!!!
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Said three days when I ordered too, but it turned up the next day. Postman was knocking on the door about 30 minutes after I got the e-mail to say it had been despatched...
Does anyone make a mini usb to 15 pin cable? I know you can buy mini usb to RCA cable and then a RCA to 15 pin cable.
I'm wondering because then you could connect Raphael directly to a projector for Power Point presentations for business.
Mechanicaldan said:
Does anyone make a mini usb to 15 pin cable? I know you can buy mini usb to RCA cable and then a RCA to 15 pin cable.
I'm wondering because then you could connect Raphael directly to a projector for Power Point presentations for business.
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HTC make one for the Advantage. As I said a couple of posts ago though, no idea if it'll work on the Raphael...
Video
Is there any chance we can get a video shot of the performance on the video out? I'd love to see if it would actually be worth it to use as a video player on the road?
Thanks good job!
Finally a reason why I would put a full lenght movie on my phone. Watching movie on a 2.8 inch screen is dumb. It's only for show. Now, With the tv output, I can put 4 movies and watch in anywhere there's a tv. Even on my Mini van's 12 inch lcd.Whooohooo!!
Drewidian said:
Is there any chance we can get a video shot of the performance on the video out? I'd love to see if it would actually be worth it to use as a video player on the road?
Thanks good job!
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I'm sure it's gonna perform OK. The phone's resolution is 640x480. A dvd quality is 720x480 so It will look fine fasho.

Why no micro composite out on the Droid X, Incredible has it

Hello guys, I love my Droid X but watched some videos of people hooking up to composite (much better than HDMI, not so limited). Anyone know how we can get this on the Droid X? I have a nice stereo in my car that plays movies and would love to see exactly what I see on my droids screen on my stereo. I repeat the INcredible does this!!!! Thanks
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hdmi+to+composite+adapter
personally, every tv or screen in my house has hdmi, and I use bluetooth in the car while watching movies on the droid x, so it works pretty good for me.
did you check the google search before you made that link? it looks like he wants the out for his car, all that google brings up is set top boxes that do converting. which isn't mobile and probably isn't very easy to incorporate into a car.
I think your SOL buddy, the only option is to go with the htc inc, while it doesn't do HD out, it will broadcast all of the screen all the time, as opposed to the evo which i hear just does video output (youtube video players) and the droidx that only does gallery output
someone wants this over hdmi?
Technically HDMI is better than comp, comp is video only, no audio. Why would you do that? Not only that, HDMI can support higher resolution than comp, above 1080, not that it matters being that the X can only play 720. Just saying, why would you purposely limit yourself? its dumb.
I was wondering the same thing. And I'd prefer comp because my house isn't filled with hdtv's so outputting hdmi isn't all that helpful to me. This feature actually plays a big part with why I may be choosing the Incredible over the Droid X but if i could do this on the X, I may be easily swayed.
I would prefer to find an hdmi to component adapter.
well and theres no HDMI to comp "adapater" all the HDMI to comp products you see are full on hardwire that has a chip that has to read the HDMI and reformat the single to comp. so a whole box needing it's own power and what not isn't very usable for a phone.
unforently it's not like svid to comp something like that the single doesn't need to be reformatted. The big deal hear is you would need to go digital to analog and there's no way of doing that without serious hardware.
unforently the hdmi out on the phone isn't like hdmi or dvi out on a computer (that can pass a analog signal as well as digital.

Music dock

Hi
Does anybody know of a music dock with speaker and amplifier to play music?
There is several avalibel for the iPhone but i can't finde any for the DHD :-(
I'd also like any information on this too. I've missed a great music dock since my W800i.
It amazes me that there is such a huge selection of iPod docks yet I do not know of one single mini USB dock - wtf?
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deekod said:
It amazes me that there is such a huge selection of iPod docks yet I do not know of one single mini USB dock - wtf? ...
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Yeah. Sometimes it's just easier to go with the flow! In the sense that if a music dock was a deal-breaker then best get an iPod/iPhone as there're plenty of alternatives.
Though you can get Bluetooth ones or ones with a 3.5mm aux input which would work. Depends whether you want to charge at the same time. It'd be nice to.
Dave
PS: don't ask me for links as I've seen them whilst *surfing* the web but not book-marked them as I'm not after one myself!
Any news about this ? I'm interested of buying one 'music dock'. Anyone found something?
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Maybe something like this ... http://www.gromaudio.com/store/accessories/cable-c-ipd2jk.html ... will allow you to use ipod stuff? Not tried one myself though.
Dave
Why not just buy a pair of PC speakers?
I cant really see what docking would add extra feature-wise. Unless you can simulate the buttons from the headphones.
PC speakers? Hardly a great way to listen to music from our DHD's.
A dock I am after will hold the DHD, charge it & play music from it.
andyharney said:
PC speakers? Hardly a great way to listen to music from our DHD's.
A dock I am after will hold the DHD, charge it & play music from it.
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It will still be a hellovalot better than the builtin speaker
Edit: Are you looking for something portable? That you keep on your lap? My 10 year old Creative Inspire 440 4.1 speaker set is small and makes a crap load of noise.
I'm after something that would sit happily on a sideboard or table, and not look out of place.
I ideally want the DHD equivalent of the B&W Zeppelin iPod HiFi system. I can dream....
If we can't find a complete set, I think a simple dock with 3.5mm out it will be good ... with a good set of speakers.
I run a 3.5mm to L+R RCA cable to a NAD Amp, running to 2 floor standing 300w Speakers and I can tells you ... I certainly get better sound than any of the iPod docks get!
Spare charger runs right next to it on a phone stand thing and I'm sorted.
I posted the adaptor cable earlier but that was only for interest. On my office desk I have a Celjel stand and connect a mains charger and an amp to my DHD. The amp is connected to my PC as well but I use an amp so that I can use decent speakers ....
In the living room where my main stereo is I was going to get one of these ... http://www.amazon.co.uk/QED-uPLAY-WIRELESS-BLUETOOTH-RECEIVER/dp/B003BF0OF2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_6 ... sounds expensive but it gets great reviews. So then the DHD gets played through my floor standing Mission speakers .. . All I need on top of that is a cheap fleabay charging stand for it to sit on the stereo stand. Sorted!
Dave
I know this is a slightly old thread but wondering if anyone has found a good music dock? I am after a small portable music dock, preferably one which charges the DHD at the same time, but would settle for a decent one with just 3.5mm connector.
Any recommendations?
I love it when old, but still useful, threads get revived.
Sadly I could not find a dock that I liked. So I made my own from a chunk of timber, a male to male 3.5mm jack and my wifes old SGS charger.
It took about 5 hours to get it right and sanded down, finished with a coat of teak oil.
I roughly followed this guide, but its set about 4-5mm into the wood leaning back and has a smaller back board.
Perfect bank holiday weekend project!
I wish you could just buy something like this http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/ipod-dock-adapter-for-motorola-droidmilestone/ instead of having to make it yourself
andyharney said:
I love it when old, but still useful, threads get revived.
Sadly I could not find a dock that I liked. So I made my own from a chunk of timber, a male to male 3.5mm jack and my wifes old SGS charger.
It took about 5 hours to get it right and sanded down, finished with a coat of teak oil.
I roughly followed ***, but its set about 4-5mm into the wood leaning back and has a smaller back board.
Perfect bank holiday weekend project!
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sromer said:
I wish you could just buy something like this *** instead of having to make it yourself
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a combi of the two would be a nice solution, a wooden dock-thingy...
Although its a bit inconvenient, i plug my charger in and my logitech z2300s. Absolutely amazing sound with srs turned on.

Mytouch 4G Slide Tv Out function

I'm not quite sure what tv out is, but I was wondering how I can connect my phone to my tv and view through my tv any content on my android phone. I have a mytouch 4g slide. For example, could I view the internet on my TV through my phone? Any help is greatly and desperately appreciated.
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The MT4GS does video out through its headphone jack. The pinout is the same as the cables for 5th Gen iPods, the one I have is the "Composite Video/Stereo Audio Output Cable for Original 5th Gen Apple iPod Video - 6ft" from monoprice for $1.43 (don't post enough here to link). It works well enough - the image quality is obviously only what you can get out of composite, which isn't great by modern standards, but it's fine for playing SD video or the like. The normal screen stays active, and the content is mirrored to the TV when connected.
PAPPPmAc said:
The MT4GS does video out through its headphone jack. The pinout is the same as the cables for 5th Gen iPods, the one I have is the "Composite Video/Stereo Audio Output Cable for Original 5th Gen Apple iPod Video - 6ft" from monoprice for $1.43 (don't post enough here to link). It works well enough - the image quality is obviously only what you can get out of composite, which isn't great by modern standards, but it's fine for playing SD video or the like. The normal screen stays active, and the content is mirrored to the TV when connected.
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i'm pretty sure it was advertised as 1080p playback. is this the only way to use tv out? maybe i'm wrong but i thought i saw this comment somewhere, which is why i was confused because this phone has no mini hdmi out like the g2x
http://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Audio-V...BSU4/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1319380370&sr=8-8
Here you guys are I use the same thing to play video games and watch netflix.
Great graphics for an rca connection. Radio shack and best buy and 40 buks in stroe at least. I told em hell no lol.
Btw marco its a complete mirror of your phone. And when its flipped side ways it goes full screen or when an app is opened it goes full screen really cool!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192247
Here is the link to the original thread about this topic. The mt4gs records in 1080p, the tv out is not, nor have I ever heard the claim that our phone would out put at 1080p.
I have the iPod cable from Amazon. It works, quality is meh on a 1080p LCD, but it's good enough to share funny YouTube videos at a party or what have you.
It also works great with netflixs.

Micro HDMI to HDMI

I found at 15ft on Amazon and a 25 ft on eBay, I want the 25, just wondering if there is any loss of signal with the longer cord?
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no of course not
hdmi (and nearly everything else nowadays) is digital meaning either you get complete signal or you don't. cable length will not effect it, neither will gold plating or any other material. plz do not get ripped off by bastard companies like "MONSTER" that sell ridiculously overpriced wires
ps when I say complete signal, i mean there's a complete signal for each contact/pin present for the wire. really badly made wires may not have all the corresponding pins in contact. (but if the metals are touching and electrons can flow, they will). i wonder if voltage and amperes come into play here at all though, now thats a question for the enthusiasts lol
n8dwgphx said:
I found at 15ft on Amazon and a 25 ft on eBay, I want the 25, just wondering if there is any loss of signal with the longer cord?
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I have used custom made HDMI cables up to 75' in length for some high end home theater installations. There should be no issue with a 25' cable.
xali said:
no of course not
hdmi (and nearly everything else nowadays) is digital meaning either you get complete signal or you don't. cable length will not effect it, neither will gold plating or any other material. plz do not get ripped off by bastard companies like "MONSTER" that sell ridiculously overpriced wires
ps when I say complete signal, i mean there's a complete signal for each contact/pin present for the wire. really badly made wires may not have all the corresponding pins in contact. (but if the metals are touching and electrons can flow, they will). i wonder if voltage and amperes come into play here at all though, now thats a question for the enthusiasts lol
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thats not entirely true.... becuase it IS digital you can run greater distances, but here is a nice fact i found.
Cable length
The HDMI specification does not define a maximum cable length. As with all cables, signal attenuation becomes too high at a certain length. Instead, HDMI specifies a minimum performance standard. Any cable meeting that specification is compliant. Different construction quality and materials will enable cables of different lengths. In addition, higher performance requirements must be met to support video formats with higher resolutions and/or frame rates than the standard HDTV formats.
The signal attenuation and intersymbol interference caused by the cables can be compensated by using Adaptive Equalization.
HDMI 1.3 defined two categories of cables: Category 1 (standard or HDTV) and Category 2 (high-speed or greater than HDTV) to reduce the confusion about which cables support which video formats. Using 28 AWG, a cable of about 5 meters (~16 feet) can be manufactured easily and inexpensively to Category 1 specifications. Higher-quality construction (24 AWG, tighter construction tolerances, etc.) can reach lengths of 12 to 15 meters. In addition, active cables (fiber optic or dual Cat-5 cables instead of standard copper) can be used to extend HDMI to 100 meters or more. Some companies also offer amplifiers, equalizers and repeaters that can string several standard (non-active) HDMI cables together.

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