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Today I tried the Hero, and I must say that it makes the Magic just as you would expect. I think this ROM is that we should concentrate all our efforts in order to make it usable.
i think that yes, it is the best rom ive ever tried, but it is too slowly and crashes frequently. htc apps and widwegts are also incredible!
one quesetion. someone have notice that all roms do not let see youtube videos in high quality. Original youtube app from vodafome let me select high quality, in this case no.. and there are great differences!
IsAhT said:
i think that yes, it is the best rom ive ever tried, but it is too slowly and crashes frequently. htc apps and widwegts are also incredible!
one quesetion. someone have notice that all roms do not let see youtube videos in high quality. Original youtube app from vodafome let me select high quality, in this case no.. and there are great differences!
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I don't have this youtube issue. When I watch at a video, in menu pop up it ask me if I want to see it in normal res.
I'm with v2 Rogers rom.
I think that hero is the way... cool interface and widgets but it needs more machine.
IsAhT said:
i think that yes, it is the best rom ive ever tried, but it is too slowly and crashes frequently. htc apps and widwegts are also incredible!
one quesetion. someone have notice that all roms do not let see youtube videos in high quality. Original youtube app from vodafome let me select high quality, in this case no.. and there are great differences!
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If you have a high speed connection like wifi or hsdpa, youtube plays in high quality.
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I think that hero is the way... cool interface and widgets but it needs more machine.
If you have a high speed connection like wifi or hsdpa, youtube plays in high quality.
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are the hardware specs on the hero that much more robust than on the Magic? I should look that up I suppose....
Regardless, I would think that HTC would eventually want to supply the Rosie UI to as many devices as possible, as they did with touchflo 3d when it came out.
I reinstalled Hero yesterday evening as I wanted to give it a try.
I used nk02 version cause my sdcard is very slow for handling the Apps. It's the 8GB sdcard that came with the Magic. I learned the last days that it's class 2 and, in order to have the Apps running properly in the sdcard, we need a class 6.
My new sdcard is on the way and i will be able to double check this.
Anyway, after installing the rom i did several optimization things. I just went to the Dream forum and use what the people are doing. Basically this is what i did:
- Hero SpeedUp v2.0 script. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521421
From here I took the dexopt-wrapper and the optimize.sh script in order to create .odex files for every apk.
- Rosie/Launcher Toggle. Idea here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521877
But the procedure I use is this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3886560&postcount=23
This means that I disable the Rosie UI and use for normal daily use the standard home screen.
Someone will ask why would I want to have Hero when I disable the Rosie UI. Simple: I can switch back to Rosie whenever I want if I want to play with the new home screen.
But, If I want the phone to be responsive and not that laggy, it's better to disable Rosie. In this way the phone works quite well and I still have all the advantages that the new Hero firmware has to offer me:
- Twitter and facebook integration
- new calendar
- all the new menus in contacts, dialer, etc.
- new camera
etc, etc, etc.
I also read that if I just keep Rosie without any widget, it will still run smooth but i haven't tried it yet.
So overall I'm happy of my decision to go for Hero again (I haven't tried Rogers, I moved from Ion to Hero directly) and I will also support the idea to focus on this firmware.
It's really looking good.
P.S: I will also copy this post in the Hero forum as I think it belongs there too.
rommelin said:
- Rosie/Launcher Toggle. Idea here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521877
But the procedure I use is this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3886560&postcount=23
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This didn't work for me.
When I clicked on home (after clearing defaults) it just went back to the home screen (rosie).
flitar said:
This didn't work for me.
When I clicked on home (after clearing defaults) it just went back to the home screen (rosie).
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Can you see inside the Application Management menu both apps? Rosie and Home?
If you don't have Home, even if you clear defaults from Rosie, it will go back to Rosie as there would not be any other alternative.
So, can you confirm me that you can see both apps?
P.S: Just reminder: after you push Launcher to the phone, you need to reboot.
Doh! rebooted, works now. Thanks
So I'm thinking about getting this phone. I'm wondering how well video chat (Skype specifically) and either btunes or Player Pro work on it. if anyone does use bTunes, does the camera button control function work in it? a short list of apps I'd really liek to knwo about, if anyone has used them on this phone:
No Lock (I know Sense has a clever lock screen, but I hate lock screens in general)
Wave Launcher
bTunes
Player Pro
Skype
No Lock
I'd also love to know if anyone has had other compatibility problems with other apps as well that I haven't mentioned, any at all. especially games. I'll be switching to a Sense phone from a stock gingerbread phone (Samsung transform Ultra), so compatibility could be a pit fall for me.
Hey, so of all those apps the only one that I have is Skype.
I am pretty amazed by how well it works. The video quality is excellent both ways, but the front facing camera does struggle a bit more in low light versus a normal webcam. Skype is fairly reliable. The video stream is clear, sound quality is good and all in all it works well. I Skyped with my friends on both Wifi and 4G for over an hour, it did however freeze a couple of times however it was difficult to tell if it was because of my phone, or the person I was Skyping with.
Can you elaborate on compatibility issues? The only "compatibility issues" I have ran into with applications regard LCD density and not being able to download from the Android Market. I changed my phone to have an LCD density of 160 rather than 240 using PropModder, and that prevented me from downloading applications like Facebook, and pretty much everything else - a simple change and reboot fixed the issue though.
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Hey, so of all those apps the only one that I have is Skype.
I am pretty amazed by how well it works. The video quality is excellent both ways, but the front facing camera does struggle a bit more in low light versus a normal webcam. Skype is fairly reliable. The video stream is clear, sound quality is good and all in all it works well. I Skyped with my friends on both Wifi and 4G for over an hour, it did however freeze a couple of times however it was difficult to tell if it was because of my phone, or the person I was Skyping with.
Can you elaborate on compatibility issues? The only "compatibility issues" I have ran into with applications regard LCD density and not being able to download from the Android Market. I changed my phone to have an LCD density of 160 rather than 240 using PropModder, and that prevented me from downloading applications like Facebook, and pretty much everything else - a simple change and reboot fixed the issue though.
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Well, on the sidekick for example, Samsung changed the colors of menus and the notification drop down menu background, so if an app uses dark colored text, its difficult or impossible to see on the menu background that's also dark. It gets quite annoying. Also, no lock would often fail to block the lock screen, since it was altered by samsung, and i know sense has a diff lock screen as well. (If all these OEMs insist on modding android so much, why cant they give us an option to disable the lock screen natively for those who dont like it?)
So does anyone know about the other Apps, especially No Lock and Wave Launcher? I use those two ALOT.
Sorry to go off topic...but CM7 has the option to disable the lockscreen.
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hmmm, did not know that. seems like at least those guys have some sense to them. I hope CM or a stable AOSP rom is on this thing soon, mine arrives tomorrow.
Don't have any of the apps in particular, but I've been using the phone for a few months now and haven't had any compatibility issues yet (that weren't fixed by the ROM developer).
It's been reported that changing the LCD density of this phone will cause app incompatibilites as mentioned earlier though. As long as you avoid that, I think you shouldn't have a problem.
I have plenty of games that I've played on the phone and all has worked so far. The only one not compatible so far is Asphalt.
Cm7 is pretty nice, also u can install the gapps and gapps-gtalk extra package when installing cm7, and the video call of gtalk will work well probably.I've tested it with a pc and this phone, videochat was flawless with the front camera.
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Hi all,
New to Android here. Just got a AT&T Galaxy S II Skyrocket after 4 frustrating years with iPhones.
So far I really like Android, especially that it lets you change what you don't like. I do feel that both devices are unacceptably tethered to their respective corporate landlords - and google is not necessarily better than apple in that respect - but Android lets you change that more readily. For instance myphoneexplorer lets you sync with outlook pretty flawlessly if you don't care to upload your info to google's "cloud", etc.
OK, I'm done ranting now but I do have 2 specific questions:
1. My particular SIISR does not display a visual reminder nor sounds a loud enough alarm when (a) I get a text, or (b) a calendar event comes due. It just makes a ridiculously soft noise that I miss every time I'm not standing in an empty recording studio, and even worse when I pull the phone the screen is dark so I have no idea what the feeble alarm was about. I expect the same level of alert as when I get a call, i.e. the lock screen lights up and I can read / snooze / dismiss as the case may be. This is really pretty amazing that such dirt-basic functionality is not included in the software, at the very least easily enabled in Settings. Am I really expected to turn on the phone and pull down the Notifications curtain to find out what is going on? If there is no workaround this will be a showstopper for me and I'll have no choice but to return the phone.
2. I like the idea of upgrading to a rom like cyanogen when it becomes available for the SIISR, but I am concerned about how at&t cottons up to having rooted and OS-reflashed devices on its network and what they might do about it, and more specifically what happens when updates are pushed down the pipe. What is you guys' real world experience with that?
Thank you for your feedback! I'd really like to stick with my new Android phone!
you go into setting and the sound option. click on volume and make sure it maxed out, then click notification ringtone and you can change the sound.
As for visual reminder its at the top left of the screen. Text shows an envelope and calender alert a different icon.. I use handcent for sms and it works way better than stock program.
Not sure if BLN works on the this model but try it. it will leave your softkeys lit when you have a text.
you can try different lock screens via golocker so that you dont have to unlock your phone to see what the alert was but to actually read the alert or know more than if it was a message or email or phone call you have to unlock it for security reasons as perhaps you get confidential material that not just ANYONE should see.
as for rooted and custom firmware its safe, and prevents stock updates from your provider. as android is opensource you are allowed to customize it.
As to #1, you can change the notification sound both in your email settings and in the phones settings/sounds area. As to it being a dark screen when you go to check it.. thats one of the downsides to this particular model, no notification LED.. there is an app on the android market called NoLED that will put a little picture on the black screen to make up for it. BUT I cannot vouch for whether or not it drains battery (my chief concern), just have to try it out.
#2 I've been on AT&T with a rooted/flashed phone of various models since 2008 and I've never had them notice/say anything. It does void your warranty flashing, but there are ways of getting it back to stock if you do end up needing that. At the moment on this phone I believe you can't get it *perfectly* back to stock, but just have to give the devs here time and it will be available eventually.
*NoLED is on my list of apps to check battery usage, I'll get on it and post again tomorrow
while the forums are a great resource for things, you will get answers faster if you just google (or youtube) things like 'how to change android sms sound'
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Not sure if BLN works on the this model but try it. it will leave your softkeys lit when you have a text.
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Sounds even better than NoLED.. givin that a try too
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Sounds even better than NoLED.. givin that a try too
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BLN requires a kernel that supports BLN, its only a matter of time when one of these great devs on here creates one.
Handcent SMS (free in the market) has the option to have your message pop up and remain on your screen until you cancel it. Almost like the iPhone.
As what Jacob said, when you are running a rooted device, you are most likely running a custom Recovery like CWM. Its actually the custom recovery that prevents you from getting the updates Over The Air. HOWEVER, the way the devs work... those new updates will generally be available for you way before your carrier sends it to your device. So rooted or not, you're gonna wanna root it anyway cause you'll end up being one of the few who wont have ICS, or whatever.
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BLN requires a kernel that supports BLN, its only a matter of time when one of these great devs on here creates one.
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Da_G supports it - look in the dev forum.
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2. I like the idea of upgrading to a rom like cyanogen when it becomes available for the SIISR, but I am concerned about how at&t cottons up to having rooted and OS-reflashed devices on its network and what they might do about it, and more specifically what happens when updates are pushed down the pipe. What is you guys' real world experience with that?
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Like it was said, you won't get updates from AT&T, but why would you want AT&T updates to overwrite your Cyanogen ROM?? When you flash Cyanogen (or any ROM), you follow that ROM and reflash when updates are available. So instead of relying on AT&T for updates, you'll rely on the developer of the ROM for updates. Also, as long as you're not trying to exchange the phone or anything like that, AT&T has no right to tell you how to use your phone. Root it, flash it...throw it against the wall...it's yours. Do what you want. Now, when you try to warranty your wall smashed phone, you better hope you have a stock AT&T ROM on there if it powers up. Every time I've warrantied a phone, it's been dead, so it didn't matter. If it won't turn on, they can't tell what ROM you have, and really, most of those "techs" just want to give you a new phone and get you on your way. Personally, I've never had a problem getting a new phone.
#1 go into sms press settings in there change your SMS ringtone. If you want an iPhone SMS type of visual reminder (bubble alert) download SMS popup from the market tinker the settings to your liking.
I'll suggest every new iPhone to android user to read the phones manual or Google your questions before jumping to conclusion that android doesn't have this and that. Most likely it does. You can customize android how ever You want.
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Has anyone had experience with the Chinese GO Launcher and the widgets that come with it? They look pretty cool, and it seems they have the functionality I'm missing.
btw I can understand the "read the manual first" comments; I did read the manual and, not unpredictably, it said nothing about functionality that doesn't exit.
Thanks for all the input so far everyone!
I recently upgraded from the iphone to the Skyrocket, and am loving it. I wasn't sure whether I was going to like it the first few days, but now when I pick up my husband's iphone it seems like a toy compared to the Skyrocket.
I just started using Go Launcher Ex two days ago. It has a lot of slick and useful features. I haven't finished exploring all of the options available, but so far I'm enjoying the themes, locker options, and SMS pro. It's easy to try Go, and you always can uninstall it if you don't like it. I did have to redo my widgets after installing it, but that was actually kind of fun with the new theme I installed.
Not a huge deal but something to keep in mind with GO launcher.. recently noticed with system panel that GO launcher drains battery excessively when the phone is idle (device on but screen off), so i switched to launcher pro which drains FAR less with the screen off. The app is nearly the same as far as functionality, with one or two exceptions that can be added by purchasing the the pro version if you really need them (resizing widgets). I decided it was worth it to use less battery.
*note, im a battery stickler.. I can't stand any extra drain
more then happy to help you out.
fedupey1 said:
Has anyone had experience with the Chinese GO Launcher and the widgets that come with it? They look pretty cool, and it seems they have the functionality I'm missing.
btw I can understand the "read the manual first" comments; I did read the manual and, not unpredictably, it said nothing about functionality that doesn't exit.
Thanks for all the input so far everyone!
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I know switching from the Iphone to Android is a big change. I was so confused for about a week. Anyways, if you want I would be happy to answer any questions you may have about your phone. I use the Go Launcher and Go SMS , I know a lot about them. Anyway just PM me if you'd like.
it has been my experience, because all returned/exchanged phones are sent out for reconditioning, att nor does the manufacturer care what OS modification has been performed on the phone. I returned my cappy at the atrix launch and asked specifically about the issue of "stock" or not, then I handed my serendipity cappy right over. Never heard back from att since and I'm still upgrading phones today without any heat. no worries.
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Not a huge deal but something to keep in mind with GO launcher.. recently noticed with system panel that GO launcher drains battery excessively when the phone is idle (device on but screen off), so i switched to launcher pro which drains FAR less with the screen off. The app is nearly the same as far as functionality, with one or two exceptions that can be added by purchasing the the pro version if you really need them (resizing widgets). I decided it was worth it to use less battery.
*note, im a battery stickler.. I can't stand any extra drain
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Good to know, thanks for the info. I'm really happy with Go launcher, and in fact have noticed much better battery performance than I had previously with a live wallpaper. But I'll look into launcher pro if the battery performance is a problem in the future.
i can confirm that Go Launcher DRAINS battery very much.....but i still use it i like to functions.
just letting you know
I installed GO Launcher EX, it looks very cool; polished and very usable UI is a massive improvement. I recommend it. Ditto GO Dialer / contacts, a huge improvement over stock. GO calendar widget is OK but not fabulous; it looks good though with the Transparency theme. GO locker was pretty but rather useless, I uninstalled it.
Installed SMS popup, works excellent. I'm happy with it. Who knew I'd get excited over functionality that used to be standard 6 years ago.
Then for my calendar I looked for an iPhone type of visual reminder (bubble alert) that wakes up the phone and displays even when the screen is locked. I only found two:
- Calendar Snooze, of which I am currently running the free version. It does the job, but it's sort of aesthetically challenged.
- The pathetic Nudnik, which I uninstalled immediately. It looks like it was designed by a pre-schooler.
Now I need to resolve my lock screen issue, then I'll be content (it locks up immediately whenever I press Power although I set the delay to 10 mins in Settings).
I think I'll give Cyanogen a whirl if it becomes available for Skyrocket.
Try iPhone Notification.
Went from a G2 to this One S yesterday. I'm not too impressed.
No dedicated menu button
There is enough room for one on the bottom but they only put 3.
What happens now is that Android (or Sense or something) detects when there are menu options and puts a button on the screen for it taking away real estate from the application.
No trackball
I used this a lot on my G2 especially on web pages with small links that I didn't want to missclick. I already miss it. I also used the trackball wake feature in CM on my G2. Now there is only one way to turn the screen on and its a little hard to do one handed. The trackball was in a very natural position to turn on with your thumb. Now without it, it is very awkward to power on with your thumb, you have to hold it very high and I'm affraid of dropping it. Alternatively I could turn it on with my index finger but it spreads my hand way out and still feels weird.
No folders
I'm not sure if this is an ICS thing or a Sense thing (because this phone is an unholy bastardization), but I can't figure out a way to create folders on my home screens. I'm not talking about the Sense folders for applications either. In normal Android builds you can add shortcuts, widgets, folders. The Pandora application shipped with a folder called "My Stations" or something like that. I used this because it only took up 1x1 on a homescreen and let me choose which station was opened. Without it, you need to open the application and it immediately starts playing the last radio station. This is annoying.
Resolution
The DPI isn't any better than my G2, its just a bigger screen. This is pretty disappointing. I would like a crisper display in a flagship device.
Bloat
Its pretty bad. I know most users want Facebook, Twitter, Dropbox, etc... but how about you let us select what we want during the phone setup.
Misc
This is my first Sense device and my first ICS device so again, not sure where this crap is coming from.... When you install an application it creates a shortcut for it on one of your home screens. Putting a shortcut is the simplist thing you can do in Android, why not leave it for the use to do if they want to do it.
On my way to work I was listening to I Heart Radio and while the live streams were okay when I went to the "pandora"-like functionality it would only play one song and then stop. This never happened on my G2. Don't know whats going on here.
I don't care for the browser (which they stupidly call "internet").
I don't care for all of the account options. I went to share a page in the browser, I wanted to email it to myself. So when I went to share page it let me select how to share it. I got "Facebook for HTC Sense", "Mail", "Twitter for HTC Sense", and "Dropbox". I did set up Facebook, but I did not set up mail, twitter, or dropbox. What I wanted was GMail which I had to select "See all..." Then I saw a plethora of garbage bloat that they bundle with the phone and had to scroll down to get to GMail. After I went though this experience I went to share another page to see if GMail showed up at the top... it didn't.
I'm sure I'll have more complaints the more I use it. I used my fiance's upgrade for this one but I get an upgrade in 3 months. If CM9 isn't out by then she'll be using this phone and I'll upgrade to a SGSIII or that yet to be named quad-core LG phone.
Summary
CM9 can't come fast enough.
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I'll add some good things here.
Good things
Again, this is coming from a G2 so in 2 years things should be better anyways....
It is very thin, and very light.
It has a front facing camera which my G2 did not.
The flashlight, though not as bright as the "High Brightness" Cyanogenmod setting on the G2, is still pretty bright.
The speaker seems to put out a lot of sound. Can't attest to the quality yet but the volume is there.
EDIT #2
Some more good and bad....
Skype Useless
... probably related to Wifi crackling. One of the things I was looking forward to with this phone was the ability to make video calls via Skype. My fiance has an iPad2, my in-laws each have a G2X, and my brother has a SGSII. Skype is useless on this device. There is echoing / cracking and video lag even when on Wifi. I called my brother with this One S and it was useless. I then called him on an iPad2 and it was great. I'm wondering if the problem has to do with Beats Audio. We'll have to wait for an AOSP ROM without Beats to find out.
So I unlocked/rooted/ROM'd ...
I am now running Black Dragon 4.0. I LOVE the menu hack to get rid of the stupid 3 dot menu on all the screens. I like that they kept the ability to longpress home to get the default behavior as well. The launcher seems nice though I haven't played with it too much (which is a good thing, means they have good defaults).
Can't wait for the kernel sources to be released so we can make some more CM9 progress. I really miss the buttons in the dropdown for wifi, brightness, bluetooth, etc. Now I have to dropdown, click settings, scroll down and find brighness.
How's the battery life? My G2 has some HORRENDOUS battery... like it can drain 20% an hour... I go to school for like 6/7 hours and I can leave with like a <20% battery life. Currently using MIUI because that seems to be the best battery life.
Edit: As for a menu button, Google is trying to get rid of that. I read a post about it a couple of months ago. They say it was useless. I completely disagree because I use it quite a lot. I use it way more than the search button which I have literally probably used less than 30 times and I've been on an Android device since the G1 came out.
For everything you just said mostly there are workarounds.
The deidcated menu button now exists through roms...the three button thing on screen is removed. Change of dpi works fine on no sense roms I'm set on 195 on sense not as good. Play market you can stop adding apps onto screens
Bloat just remove yourself root explorer..
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Battery lifes good also...
As I said workarounds exist
Also get a different launcher and ditch sense or just get Nova or apex
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Love this. G2 FOORRREEEVVVAAAAHHHH
.ili.music.ili. said:
How's the battery life? My G2 has some HORRENDOUS battery... like it can drain 20% an hour... I go to school for like 6/7 hours and I can leave with like a <20% battery life.
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I'm the wrong person to ask about battery life (at least during the week). I work in one of these new fancy energy efficient "Green" buildings. We have coating on our windows that block UV with the side effect of also blocking cellular signals. Everyone that works here puts their phones on airplane mode to save battery because we have 0 signal and the phone search all day.
I'll know better this weekend about battery life.
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For everything you just said mostly there are workarounds.
The deidcated menu button now exists through roms...the three button thing on screen is removed. Change of dpi works fine on no sense roms I'm set on 195 on sense not as good. Play market you can stop adding apps onto screens
Bloat just remove yourself root explorer..
Battery lifes good also...
As I said workarounds exist
Also get a different launcher and ditch sense or just get Nova or apex
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How did they implement the dedicated menu button?
How do I ditch Sense?... what is Nova / apex?
Do I need root to install another launcher?
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How did they implement the dedicated menu button?
How do I ditch Sense?... what is Nova / apex?
Do I need root to install another launcher?
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no you can install launchers without root..from market just look for them
to ditch sense though you will need root..and to change dpi you will need root..my advice root lol
by ditching sense i mean install a non sense rom like black dragon or untouchables that strip sense away so the majority is ice cream sandwich without the bloatfest. some apps will be kept in but just use root explorer to rid the rom of it.
the dedicated menu button and ridding the screen of the three dots at the bottom is also because its been taken away and remapped by devs..so again..you need root
most of all..development will kick in soon..so better to root..or if not just use a different launcher but you dont really accomplish what your setting out to do
leedroid should be here soon with a rom,and will do away with most of the bloat anyway...so youll keep sense and most things you complained about will be sorted..
the main thing here is..root..worth it..yes..without..pointless and youll be stuck with htcs crap stock rom..pretty poor for me..but coming from another phone with loads of development..probably biased of how it should be
No Folders?
Just long-tap on the icon and drag it to another icon. THe folder will creat automaticly.
FunkyELF said:
Went from a G2 to this One S yesterday. I'm not too impressed.
No dedicated menu button
Root and ROM it. People are remapping the multitask key as the menu button, and hold-home now does the multitask. You're on XDA, so I assume you're enthused enough to root and ROM it.
No trackball
Seriously. Please find me an Android device with a trackball nowadays. It's gone...you're just gonna have to deal with it.
Resolution
This display seems pretty crisp. We're working with phones with relatively small displays. There's only so many pixels you can pack into until it doesn't even matter. 720p is about as far as we need to go on phone screens. The qHD screen on this phone has vivid colors and all the qualities of Super AMOLED. The resolution seems plenty high to me. Are you starting 1inch away from the phone and observing pixels?
Bloat
Welcome to flagship carrier devices. Again, you're on XDA, and fully capable of rooting it and removing all that crap. The G2 was a 1-off device that had pretty much stock Android. Consider it a Nexus device, more or less. With a flagship phone, you're going to get bloatware.
Misc
This is my first Sense device and my first ICS device so again, not sure where this crap is coming from.... When you install an application it creates a shortcut for it on one of your home screens. Putting a shortcut is the simplist thing you can do in Android, why not leave it for the use to do if they want to do it.
Sense has nothing to do with this. The new Google Play Store now by default places new apps' icons on the homescreen. It's as easy as going to the prefs in Play Store and disabling. Blame Google if you're going to blame someone.
On my way to work I was listening to I Heart Radio and while the live streams were okay when I went to the "pandora"-like functionality it would only play one song and then stop. This never happened on my G2. Don't know whats going on here.
Don't know what to tell you, but it's obvious that you're describing some sort of software issue, not a hardware issue. If it worked fine on the live streams, then your data connection worked. Talk to iHeartRadio.
I don't care for the browser (which they stupidly call "internet").
So install a new one! ICS Browser+ is exactly like the stock browser. There's also Chrome and Opera. Cmon...
I don't care for all of the account options. I went to share a page in the browser, I wanted to email it to myself. So when I went to share page it let me select how to share it. I got "Facebook for HTC Sense", "Mail", "Twitter for HTC Sense", and "Dropbox". I did set up Facebook, but I did not set up mail, twitter, or dropbox. What I wanted was GMail which I had to select "See all..." Then I saw a plethora of garbage bloat that they bundle with the phone and had to scroll down to get to GMail. After I went though this experience I went to share another page to see if GMail showed up at the top... it didn't.
This is the one thing I disliked and will agree with you on, although once again, rooting and ROMing can take care of it. That or removing bloatware.
I'm sure I'll have more complaints the more I use it. I used my fiance's upgrade for this one but I get an upgrade in 3 months. If CM9 isn't out by then she'll be using this phone and I'll upgrade to a SGSIII or that yet to be named quad-core LG phone.
Suit yourself. 4.7 inches is just too big, and at these speeds, you're at the mercy of your data connection, not the processor.
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CM9 can't come fast enough.
AMEN
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I think nearly all of your points are moot. A lot of your review seems to be based on your lack of willingness to change some preferences and MANAGE your device. If you were on a G2, then you never had to manage stuff like this. Consider it a new experience. If you wanted stock Android, you should've gotten a Galaxy Nexus. I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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I think nearly all of your points are moot. A lot of your review seems to be based on your lack of willingness to change some preferences and MANAGE your device. If you were on a G2, then you never had to manage stuff like this. Consider it a new experience. If you wanted stock Android, you should've gotten a Galaxy Nexus. I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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i agree with you there,its all about learning curves..no sense roms are fairly close to stock..its just the settings that are different now..he_stheone has already added certain elements of stock android..so its fairly close..just the settings..that are the main difference now.
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No Folders?
Just long-tap on the icon and drag it to another icon. THe folder will creat automaticly.
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Those aren't the folders I'm talking about. I think what I'm talking about are called live folders. In AOSP builds of Android when you long press on an empty space on one of your screens you can choose widgets, folders, shortcuts, contacts, and other things I can't remember.
With Sense you only get widgets and shortcuts.... no folders, no contacts, etc... just widgets and shortcuts.
Isn't that minor thing?
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I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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I didn't see this one listed in the ALL ROMS post here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1584163
Where is the info on that ROM?
Dude its in development section
Black dragon 4.0
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nickmv said:
I think nearly all of your points are moot. A lot of your review seems to be based on your lack of willingness to change some preferences and MANAGE your device. If you were on a G2, then you never had to manage stuff like this. Consider it a new experience. If you wanted stock Android, you should've gotten a Galaxy Nexus. I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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Going to have to side with you on this one. This phone is definitly a great device, give it some time, dig in a little bit. Much better than my Tmo-SGS2.
most of things you mentioned isnt a "bad thing" just you dont know how to operate the phone, or its just different (opinion at that point).
Also you didnt like things which are for all devices, not just one S
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Those aren't the folders I'm talking about. I think what I'm talking about are called live folders. In AOSP builds of Android when you long press on an empty space on one of your screens you can choose widgets, folders, shortcuts, contacts, and other things I can't remember.
With Sense you only get widgets and shortcuts.... no folders, no contacts, etc... just widgets and shortcuts.
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The long press, dragging and combining of icons together is AOSP folders in Ice Cream Sandwich. The long press on the desktop to add folder is long gone and is not coming back.
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Dude its in development section
Black dragon 4.0
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Sorry... you said Black Magic, not Black dragon.
I'll give it a try in a couple weeks. I like to use my phone a bit before rooting to make sure I didn't get a lemon.
Does the camera work on this one?
Just got the phone and here are my negatives:
1. With lowest brightness setting the screen is horrible (but if you increase it a bit, its ok)
2. No switches in pulldown menu ? I though Sense always had that.....
3. Bottom plastic is not 100% flush at one corner (maybe will exchange, maybe not)
4. In navigation I just couldnt find "setting" button anywhere.....whats up with that ?
gonna go to Verizon and compare to Nexus....I still need Tmo SIM and stores are in same place anyway....I am not a phone freak not wasting time here
Its also very true that until you have 2 devices in hand you cant really compare screen quality...I though my G2x IPS panel for super great, but compared to One S its very warm colored and whites have red tint. Its also hard to use in lowest brightness even in dark room....but with G2x case its because screen is simply too dark, with One S its bright but disgusting to look at due to some "noise"
So, now that CM9 is stable, and CM10 is under development, what are you hoping the developers merge?
Personally, I have a few changes I'd like to see.
One, I'd like Apollo to be replaced, or repaired. No landscape support, a white-holo theme that doesn't fit with the black-holo stock ICS/JB look, and downloading album art from a data connection rather than using the embedded album art...all in all, I hate Apollo music, and I think many would agree that it is an inferior music player. At the very least, allow a setting to use the embedded art, and give it a black, rather than white, UI.
I'd like the lockscreen on phones to be enabled for landscape, and for tablet lockscreens to be enabled for portrait, and to either respond to the orientation settings, or the auto-rotate setting. So far, the lockscreen orientation is not well implemented. I know it is capable of using landscape, because in CM9, I disabled auto-rotate with the notification bar toggle, while in landscape, and was able to use a landscape lockscreen, so it's there. It just needs to be enabled.
Better unity between the Cyanogen tweaks and stock android. For example, the power toggles in the notification tray, and the power widget. The backlight setting is a good example - in the notification tray, it's dim, 25, 50, 75, 100, auto. In the widget, it's dim, 40, 100, auto. I'd like to see the widget either use 50 as the midpoint, or the notification tray to use increments of 20, rather than 25, so that it has 40 as a midpoint. Or better yet, make both the widget and pulldown toggles exactly the same - make the widget use 25% increments, or the notification bar use the stock settings. The backlight is only one example, but I think there are a few easy tweaks that would make it feel more "unified." Even the wallpaper menus - if you look at the menu for choosing the Cyanogenmod wallpapers, it has a slightly different UI than the menu for stock wallpapers. If you add the static menu button to the navigation bar, it is visually different from the "normal" menu button that shows when apps need it, even though it serves the same purpose. I'd like to see CM integrate cleanly with what remains of stock Android.
I'm not completely sure if this one is possible, because I don't think the GPU uses a governor like the CPU, but rather a set clock-rate, but if possible, I'd like to see the ability to set the GPU in the performance settings.
Ringtones. So far, to enable a song as a ringtone, you need to use Apollo. So, for people who removed it for another music player, or kangs that don't have it, they can't set a song as a ringtone. Also, once you pick a song as a ringtone, it stays in your ringtones menu, so after a while, it gets cluttered. I think a cleaner implementation of ringtones is in order. Rather than implementing the song as a ringtone, once you choose a song, it should gray out the default ringtones, and use the song. Something like "enable custom ringtone" checkbox, and once checked, it gives you a file browser to pick a song, and grays out the stock ringtones, or something along those lines. This would allow people who don't use Apollo to set a song as a ringtone, and would prevent clutter in the ringtone list.
The Galaxy S3 has a feature that allows the phone to stay awake while you are using it. Rather than timing out if it detects no input, it will use the front camera with face detection to see if you are still looking at the phone, and if you are, stay awake. This would be nice to put into the settings.
And lastly...a file browser. CM7 had one, so I don't get why they would take a step back and remove it from CM9. It's not hard to get one, but it would be nice to see integrated.
And yes, I know Steve Kondik won't read this. But, where CM is a community ROM and anyone can submit code, I think this would be a good place for users to submit ideas and feedback, while being exposed to developers. I'm willing to bet if the community submits ideas that the developers like, it can greatly increase the quality of Cyanogenmod, which is already the best out there, making it perfect.
bluesy_92 said:
So, now that CM9 is stable, and CM10 is under development, what are you hoping the developers merge?
Personally, I have a few changes I'd like to see.
One, I'd like Apollo to be replaced, or repaired. No landscape support, a white-holo theme that doesn't fit with the black-holo stock ICS/JB look, and downloading album art from a data connection rather than using the embedded album art...all in all, I hate Apollo music, and I think many would agree that it is an inferior music player. At the very least, allow a setting to use the embedded art, and give it a black, rather than white, UI.
I'd like the lockscreen on phones to be enabled for landscape, and for tablet lockscreens to be enabled for portrait, and to either respond to the orientation settings, or the auto-rotate setting. So far, the lockscreen orientation is not well implemented. I know it is capable of using landscape, because in CM9, I disabled auto-rotate with the notification bar toggle, while in landscape, and was able to use a landscape lockscreen, so it's there. It just needs to be enabled.
Better unity between the Cyanogen tweaks and stock android. For example, the power toggles in the notification tray, and the power widget. The backlight setting is a good example - in the notification tray, it's dim, 25, 50, 75, 100, auto. In the widget, it's dim, 40, 100, auto. I'd like to see the widget either use 50 as the midpoint, or the notification tray to use increments of 20, rather than 25, so that it has 40 as a midpoint. Or better yet, make both the widget and pulldown toggles exactly the same - make the widget use 25% increments, or the notification bar use the stock settings. The backlight is only one example, but I think there are a few easy tweaks that would make it feel more "unified." Even the wallpaper menus - if you look at the menu for choosing the Cyanogenmod wallpapers, it has a slightly different UI than the menu for stock wallpapers. If you add the static menu button to the navigation bar, it is visually different from the "normal" menu button that shows when apps need it, even though it serves the same purpose. I'd like to see CM integrate cleanly with what remains of stock Android.
I'm not completely sure if this one is possible, because I don't think the GPU uses a governor like the CPU, but rather a set clock-rate, but if possible, I'd like to see the ability to set the GPU in the performance settings.
Ringtones. So far, to enable a song as a ringtone, you need to use Apollo. So, for people who removed it for another music player, or kangs that don't have it, they can't set a song as a ringtone. Also, once you pick a song as a ringtone, it stays in your ringtones menu, so after a while, it gets cluttered. I think a cleaner implementation of ringtones is in order. Rather than implementing the song as a ringtone, once you choose a song, it should gray out the default ringtones, and use the song. Something like "enable custom ringtone" checkbox, and once checked, it gives you a file browser to pick a song, and grays out the stock ringtones, or something along those lines. This would allow people who don't use Apollo to set a song as a ringtone, and would prevent clutter in the ringtone list.
The Galaxy S3 has a feature that allows the phone to stay awake while you are using it. Rather than timing out if it detects no input, it will use the front camera with face detection to see if you are still looking at the phone, and if you are, stay awake. This would be nice to put into the settings.
And lastly...a file browser. CM7 had one, so I don't get why they would take a step back and remove it from CM9. It's not hard to get one, but it would be nice to see integrated.
And yes, I know Steve Kondik won't read this. But, where CM is a community ROM and anyone can submit code, I think this would be a good place for users to submit ideas and feedback, while being exposed to developers. I'm willing to bet if the community submits ideas that the developers like, it can greatly increase the quality of Cyanogenmod, which is already the best out there, making it perfect.
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The lock screen portrait for tablets and vice verse is weird an uncomfortable. For music, god get Google play music or a new Apollo theme its not so hard. The only GPU all that does good is chain fire 3d, which is incompatible with jellybean. Ringtones can be implemented without Apollo. The stocky feeling is still there. The Ui can't be completely the same as stock. And for a file browser, devs are already including oi file explorer in jellybean and if not, DOWNLOAD IT. DON'T BE LAZY. And suggest these to your phone devs, not here. As I am already running a non alpha stable release of jellybean on my phone, there are many things you can do to fix these yourself.
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You don't need to use a music player to set ring tones, I have custom ring tones for phone, messaging, all three of my Email accounts. All set without using a music player.
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i would like to have two diefferent volume controls for media
one for the normal phone speaker(s)
and one control for headsets, etc.
another feature i would like to have is:
app folders in the app drawer of trebuchet (not only on home screen) (couldn´t find an option to enable it yet, if there is one)
Dj_Fex said:
i would like to have two diefferent volume controls for media
one for the normal phone speaker(s)
and one control for headsets, etc.
another feature i would like to have is:
app folders in the app drawer of trebuchet (not only on home screen) (couldn´t find an option to enable it yet, if there is one)
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For the speaker stuff, why? Its useless. But the app folders in the drawers seem like a good idea.
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iKoolkid said:
For the speaker stuff, why? Its useless. But the app folders in the drawers seem like a good idea.
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i know there is a control to set the volume down if the volume is very loud and you switch to your headset to take care of your ears
but it doesn´t turn the volume down before switching to the headset so the music could be loud for 1 or a half second
and it is good if you want to hear music with another volume on phone speakers then headset
the feature is not to important but i hope that they could fix it, that the volume changes after switching
Hi if these can happen in cm10 it would be fantastic..
1. Sounds of call and music can be played through different speakers ie headset, Bluetooth or speakers separately.
2. Two or more media players able to play on different speakers.
3. We can mix call and music so the person other side of call can here music also..
4. We can record audio from different source like Mic,call,FM or music separatly at same time
5. There should be a mixture interface from which inputs and output can be controlled independently..
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mmrx said:
Hi if these can happen in cm10 it would be fantastic..
1. Sounds of call and music can be played through different speakers ie headset, Bluetooth or speakers separately.
2. Two or more media players able to play on different speakers.
3. We can mix call and music so the person other side of call can here music also..
4. We can record audio from different source like Mic,call,FM or music separatly at same time
5. There should be a mixture interface from which inputs and output can be controlled independently..
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good ideas, but do your really want to hear music while calling someone
and i don´t know if this is realizable (don´t you need more than one sound card to do this or something like that?)
good 8mp camera please
more elaborate volume controls
more governors and io schedulers and a touch recovery would also be great
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more governors and io schedulers and a touch recovery would also be great
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Already there.
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Add option to customize the statusbar like AOKP, like centerclock and stuff like that.
fluffenforliberty said:
Add option to customize the statusbar like AOKP, like centerclock and stuff like that.
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Most jellybean ROMs are getting those cherry picked So they are already there for most phones.
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good ideas, but do your really want to hear music while calling someone
and i don´t know if this is realizable (don´t you need more than one sound card to do this or something like that?)
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Music during call mean low volume background music. Although it is possible to play MP3 on poweramp and videos on Mx during call but the other side party only hear Mic input..
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How about separate volume controls per program? Using A2DP with the cars stock stereo works amazingly well for almost everything. Phone calls and music are fine, but navigation is almost impossible to hear and alerts are deafening. It would nice to be able to adjust the volume of just Google maps versus the rest of the programs, for example.
I actually like Apollo, just wish it rotated.
As for a complete longshot: Maybe a better car dock? I don't know how many people use car docks, but they're almost all terrible and completely unintegrated with the programs. The dock's I've tried just launch the music, podcast or maps program...I could do that with the stock launcher. Also, with the phone in dock mode it's hard to hit the buttons. The touch interface is expecting a decisive press or swipe, but that's difficult when the phone is at a fixed point (on the windshield, for example) and you're finger is hovering around it...hitting bumps and whatnot.
Better gesture actions. Some very cool stuff is offered out of the box by the Samsung SIII and incorporating that into CM10 would be great.
Selfishly, I'd love to see support for popular older phones (Droid Inc) but I see why they are dropping support for older phones - you have to keep the new shiny phones working before you bother with the old ones....
a few thoughts
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The Galaxy S3 has a feature that allows the phone to stay awake while you are using it. Rather than timing out if it detects no input, it will use the front camera with face detection to see if you are still looking at the phone, and if you are, stay awake. This would be nice to put into the settings.
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This one I especially would like to see, too. Its the one and only feature I miss from stock Samsung, and the replacement apps available in play store are, well, not perfect to say the least. Despite this, face awake is certainly a feature that should be included in the ROM (assuming of course it is wanted - but as you point out, its a wish thread :fingers-crossed.
Regarding Apollo, my two cents are that it should probably be split off from CM development entirely. Not sure what the rest is thinking, but personally I don't use it anyway, and giving it to a dedicated team might help getting some load off CM development after all its "only" a music player. Again, just my personal view from a complete naive outside point of view.
File Browser - I'm actually undecided. Personally, for example, I use a replacement anyway. But on the other hand its a basic component of Android OS, so it also has some logic to keep a rather simple one as fallback option in case of problems.
I disagree a bit with the performance tweaks. For sake of release stability I'd actually keep them out completely, since users really knowing what they do in these advanced options can easily use community build kernels optimized for this. Same argument as above: keep CM focused (and avoid unnecessary bug reports, too) and leave the luxury-addons to dedicated teams. Use the strength of the community :highfive:
And, last not least, also my thanks to all people involved in CM development. It is outstanding work, providing us with a competitive alternative and a great example of community-driven development Keep going! :good:
The pop up text that CM recently implanted in source I think, for every cm10 rom
this right here......is my.. pretty boy swag!
I'd love to see more integration with JB UI, list mode rather than this tiles in 'artist section' - i think all of those should look the same. Also music controls on lockscreen - I'd really love to have that sony's solution - when u see lockscreen you just swipe clock for music controls, swipe back to see clock - it's lighter, more elegant and u don't always unlock your phone to change music, the current look is a shame. I hope apollo won't be forgotten cuz currently it stands out comparing to rest of the software : C