Twrp vs cwm - HTC One S

Hey guys I'm kind of new to TWRP, but not CWM, and I was wondering for us one s users who do not have s-off, what are the benefits to using one over the other? Specifically, what are the benefits to using TWRP over CWM?
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dung8604 said:
Hey guys I'm kind of new to TWRP, but not CWM, and I was wondering for us one s users who do not have s-off, what are the benefits to using one over the other? Specifically, what are the benefits to using TWRP over CWM?
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For one... TWRP is easier to use (better touch interface).
TWO.. it allows you to flash radio images, even with S-ON
Three... it's much faster at installing ZIPs / backing up or restoring.
For that alone. it's alone for me to run it.

dung8604 said:
Hey guys I'm kind of new to TWRP, but not CWM, and I was wondering for us one s users who do not have s-off, what are the benefits to using one over the other? Specifically, what are the benefits to using TWRP over CWM?
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You don't have to flash the hboot through fast boot with twrp you can just flash the Rom and it will automatically flash in the recovery
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only negative to consider is that any backups you made with cwm may not restore with twrp. you will have to start from scratch or reflash cwm to restore an older one if needed--

Awesome, so it's almost like having s-off because we don't have to flash the boot separately? More or less?
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yea, that's about all it does
i consider s-off when we can change partition table and get more data space

So do you reccomend me to flash twrp? have this any bug?

I've done it, and it works great.
Made Backup and Restore,
no Problems at all.
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So its better than cwm?
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k1llacanon said:
So its better than cwm?
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Yes
sent from a guy living in a van down by the river

I too have just flash twrp, gotta say its a little weird after using CWM for so many years.
but i like it just wish there where some themes for it ??

azzledazzle said:
I too have just flash twrp, gotta say its a little weird after using CWM for so many years.
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What about an App to run it from within the ROM like ROM Manager?

lol--
This is like should I get the chocolate or vanilla ice cream---
Just flash it guys, if you don't like it go back. It's not like like flashing radios, hboots etc. Very quick and easy.

orenfl said:
What about an App to run it from within the ROM like ROM Manager?
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I think u can use goo-manager for that
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So how come I have never heard of it cwm is more famous fyi I'm noob at this stuff
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I have to disagree with a few posts here, you can do everything the same way with both recoveries. You don't need to flash the boot image in fastboot with cwm I've done it myself and I didn't see any difference in speed between the two backing up or restoring.
It's preference on which you choose to use, I'm not saying that either is bad they both have a great support background and are dedicated to quality as they should be, it's the most important software on your device in consideration to root users and without it working properly your taking a very large risk.
Personally believe recovery should be layed out in a manner that is easy to use and functional for all types of users, adding gimmicks to something that should be taken seriously I feel is unnecessary and both teams do a great job of keeping it clean and treat the work as if they are paid to make them.
Both are great at their work, both are worth having.

papi5120 said:
I think u can use goo-manager for that
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orenfl said:
What about an App to run it from within the ROM like ROM Manager?
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Yes goo manager from the market has roms and the twrp recovery u can flash straight from the app
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U guys are making out flashing from the app is such a big deal lol
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one is made by true community and the other is pushed by a greedy dude.
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androidcues said:
one is made by true community and the other is pushed by a greedy dude.
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Lol
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[Q] Manually Updating CMR

Im running clockwork mod 2.5.0.7 and through rom manager ive tried updating to 5.something. However it never works, so, i have the .img file for the newest version. how do i update to it manually? Oh and i don't want to use adb.
thanks in advance
I'm guessing you flash it using CWR
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thats what i figured, but it doesn't allow you to flash .img, only .zip. unless im missing something
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unless im missing something
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a) You are missing the whole point of the development section.
b) there is a reason why a number of reputable members here still use cwm 2.5.0.7
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the only reason im updating is because i want to partition my sd without using adb, but that isn't working out with 2.5
This is the first one for me that partitioning can be done from adb. I love this board as every day I learn something new.
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Use gparted for your sd card...
Did u also see there is a Q & A SECTION?!?!?!
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erklat said:
This is the first one for me that partitioning can be done from adb. I love this board as every day I learn something new.
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Yep, using parted.
Op. Best to use gparted than recovery.
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[KERNEL] Overclocked Kernel

Even though HTC hasn't released the kernel source there are still a few things we can do.
Attached are two modified kernels.
3.0.8-01136 is based on the current HTC European kernel
3.0.8-01053 is based on the current T-Mobile kernel
They will probably work better if you use are currently running a similar kernel.
All I did was add the following frequencies to the cpufreq table:
1.62GHz, 1.728GHz and 1.809GHz
It boots at 1.809GHz
Use setCPU to change the maximum frequency if you don't want it to run at up 1.809GHz.
I know there is a module to do more or less the same thing as this but having it built into the kernel is much easier and it allows the ondemand governor to use all the new frequencies.
I wrote some code to patch the kernel so it's easy to make this work with any other kernel version.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26961470&postcount=24 for the source and instructions.
These are installable zips, flash the kernel using the latest CWM (at least version 5.8.3.1).
Copy the zip file to /sdcard, reboot into recovery and install just like a ROM.
If you want to test it first you can extract the boot.img from the zip and boot using:
fastboot boot boot.img
think you could make one for kernal 3.0.8-01050-ge2a40ab
crackeyes said:
think you could make one for kernal 3.0.8-01050-ge2a40ab
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Yes, Agreed, this one would be great to have as well.
If we send you the boot.img bro can you patch it for us?
Heck I can try and do it, i just don't know where to begin lol
This will update you to the newest kernel if you are still running the older version. Worked flawlessly for me
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infinityhombre said:
This will update you to the newest kernel if you are still running the older version. Worked flawlessly for me
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you sir are correct. I flashed via fastboot and updated fine with out issues. Thanks DZO
dzo said:
This is not an installable zip, so don't try to install it from CWM.
I can easily make an installable zip if there is demand for it.
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I think this should be a standard thing and not based upon request.
Just my thought.
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Works great. Bumped up another 100 points in quadrant.
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Zip for CWM Please!
Yes a zip for CWM would be well appreciated. And also, would this work while using BinDroid XTC v1.0.2? Thanks
jesseserna said:
Yes a zip for CWM would be well appreciated. And also, would this work while using BinDroid XTC v1.0.2? Thanks
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Not sure you can go CWM on this until we have s-off.
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jmercil said:
Not sure you can go CWM on this until we have s-off.
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Oh well I thought I'd ask since dzo said if we would request it enough he might make one. Thanks anyways.
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How hard is a fastboot cmd?
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enzomtrx said:
How hard is a fastboot cmd?
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A fastboot command is actually faster seeing as technically it is only one reboot instead of two that cwm is lol
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jmercil said:
Not sure you can go CWM on this until we have s-off.
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No, S-OFF is really not necessary for flashing anything on this device. I've attached two flashable zips to the first post.
Let me know if it doesn't work for you.
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How hard is a fastboot cmd?
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Not hard to fastboot at all, not at all.
Some of us just like to have a second option.
doktortaru said:
A fastboot command is actually faster seeing as technically it is only one reboot instead of two that cwm is lol
I don't always have access to a computer, so downloading on the go and flashing it at my convenience is a big plus.
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Anyways, gonna do a backup and "Flash" this via "CWM" and see how it goes. B.T.W. thanks for the quick update on this DZO!
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Well here's what I got! Using BinDroid XTC v1.0.2. All I can say is THANK YOU DZO! :thumbup:
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jesseserna said:
Well here's what I got! Using BinDroid XTC v1.0.2. All I can say is THANK YOU DZO! :thumbup:
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How can you get so high like that? I am also running my One S at 1.8 GHz, but I can only archive 5500 points. Can you tell me how can your score be done?
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fxzy said:
How can you get so high like that? I am also running my One S at 1.8 GHz, but I can only archive 5500 points. Can you tell me how can your score be done?
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Ha ha ha! I don't know? I ran the quadrant standard shortly after a reboot. I think it was some kind of fluke. Lol Because every time I run quadrant now I only get 4700-5100! I must say its my best sreeny yet.
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Here's another screenshot!
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Is voltage table "tunable" too?
A slight undervolt for the whole frequency should be great! For stock or overclocked frequencies, but I don't even know... Does SetCPU (or other tools) detects the kernel as "undervoltable" ?

Boot.img

I was just wondering why with the One S we need to flash the boot.img from the rom to get it working in most cases. never had the need to do this with other phones i have owned?
cheers
As far as I know ,we need s-off before it will work properly .
I know people are saying twrp can flash boot ,but it has never worked for me.
Would also be interested in knowing .
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Sorry yeah, S-off would make sense. Nah, TWRP doesn't seem to do it.
TWRP does it for me.. am using Axiom S v1.5 and did not have to flash boot.img.. just went straight to recovery and flashed it from there.. works flawlessly
Out of interest ,
are you s-on?
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**ignore post**
I am s on yes.
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Idea for s-off for one S

Ok so i wilp be upgrading to a one s in a few days and im wondering if for s-off on the one s could someone make like what the devs did for the n1 with blackrose. Or could someone find someone one with one of the rare one s dev phones with s-off and extract the s-off hboot from that and flash it on all the other one s phones
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Don't you think people might have already thought about that? I mean seriously do you think the devs just can't be arsed or something?
shadowch31 said:
Don't you think people might have already thought about that? I mean seriously do you think the devs just can't be arsed or something?
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Such a friendly person lol
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The basic chicken & egg situation is that you need s-off to write hboot.
You'd have to boot the device through some other means than the normal (s-on) hboot, or spoof some check(s) to prevent the normal hboot from setting mmc protection.
Well i know that sansung phones have something called unbrickable mod and that starts before the bootloader ir os or anything likebthat starts. If soneone can get something like that then we could s-off the one s easily
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Here is a crazy idea talk about this on the s off thread
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Did anyone manage to get into download mode on the One X/S/V? You could on the Sensation, that might help.
These dev one s phones... Are they available?
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If I helped you in any way please hit thanks!
Some people have gotten them but they are really really rare?
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It doesn't matter we can do almost everything now because of twrp recovery
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+1
I don't what I could use S-OFF for at this moment. Sure, there might be devs who just would start some efficient stuff, but thanks to those current recoveries where already have most of the possible functionalities.
BTW: Please use the exisiting thread instead of confusing or catching people with a new one! °(ò_Ó)°
n1noob13 said:
Ok so i wilp be upgrading to a one s in a few days and im wondering if for s-off on the one s could someone make like what the devs did for the n1 with blackrose. Or could someone find someone one with one of the rare one s dev phones with s-off and extract the s-off hboot from that and flash it on all the other one s phones
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Why do you think you need s-off?
Resizing partitions would be the main one I think.
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kuroneko007 said:
Resizing partitions would be the main one I think.
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For those of us who are on hboot 1.13 or newer, flashing radios without RUU would be another one.
kyuubi_ac said:
Please use the exisiting thread instead of confusing or catching people with a new one!
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That would be this one by Reevine...
Thread Closed​
We have a existing thread for this.​

Reflashing boot IMG each time?

I have AOKP on my att HTC. I already flashed the boot IMG manually, if I want to try out CM10 do I have to flash the boot IMG of cm10 again? Also when updating the same ROM is this neccesary again?
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If you are on hboot 1.14, yes you should flash the boot IMG every time you flash a new ROM. Not technically necessary for a ROM update but good to do just in case.
You can always just S-OFF though, then you don't need to worry about it.
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exad said:
If you are on hboot 1.14, yes you should flash the boot IMG every time you flash a new ROM. Not technically necessary for a ROM update but good to do just in case.
You can always just S-OFF though, then you don't need to worry about it.
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QBking said on his video that getting S off can brick your phone so I am a little weary.
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It is actually a very simple process. All I did was copy and paste the commands from the facepalm method. Worked like a charm. Makes flashing a whole lot easier.
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The only issue i had while getting s-off was the phone being "offline" but a simple unplug and replug fixed that. It was a simple process overall
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I would say the bigger risk is not understanding what s-off is actually doing. Because there's no security checks, if you don't know what you're doing you can easily brick flashing the wrong thing. If you're smart about it, take your time and know what it is your flashing, you shouldn't have any problems.
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Thanks guys I am simply using the Flash GUI app its awesome because it flashes the boot IMG.
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