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Anybody gonna ditch their A2 and jump on this when it comes out next month?
It does look pretty sweet! Although I am still trying to get my brain wrapped around getting started into dev'ing and hacking for the A2, I think I'll stick with this phone. I am torn though, thinking about getting the SGS3 when it comes out, but will still keep the A2.
Question: If the A3 comes with the bootloader locked, and we find a way to get the A2's bootloader unlocked, will it be easier (or theoretically) the same way to go about unlocking the A3's -assuming it comes locked?
Apex_Strider said:
It does look pretty sweet! Although I am still trying to get my brain wrapped around getting started into dev'ing and hacking for the A2, I think I'll stick with this phone. I am torn though, thinking about getting the SGS3 when it comes out, but will still keep the A2.
Question: If the A3 comes with the bootloader locked, and we find a way to get the A2's bootloader unlocked, will it be easier (or theoretically) the same way to go about unlocking the A3's -assuming it comes locked?
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Not sure if I'd describe it as "pretty sweet" but I guess it kinda looks updated. I really despise how the on-screen capacitive buttons, launcher dock and first row of apps take up roughly half of the on screen real estate, that's ridiculous. IMO, there's soooo much bezel at the bottom of the device why not put capacitive buttons down there and make use of all that space instead of just slapping a huge AT&T logo down there?
Lastly, if the bootloader is still locked then I imagine the modding community will embrace it after seeing the headache the A2 has caused. I mean, the A2 bootloader still isn't unlocked and here comes the A3 with a locked bootloader? I hope i'm wrong but ICS presents a whole other set of challenges to overcome and the minimal dev support for the A2 surely doesn't inspire confidence that the A3 will be any different. But the LTE, ICS, HD display...pretty cool upgrades I'd say.
So, what's the consensus... everyone leaning toward the SGS3?
I AM getting the SGS III on the 18th. I pre-ordered mine on the 6th... I am hoping to have it in hand late on the 16th or 17th (my local store is great about doing that for me).
The A3 will be the same locked down crap that we have now, and the development of this phone is just so hard to do. Look, I have been working just about every night for at least 1 hour, if not a whole lot more some nights, since ~Oct. 20th to break this bootloader. I have been working on getting a FULL version of CM7 running since Jan/Feb. with little success, due to the craptastic stuff MOTO/AT&T have done to this phone.
I have a XOOM and I LOVE that thing, it was unlocked from day one, there was a command that you run with fastboot to unlock the bootloader. I was hoping that this phone would be more like the XOOM, and we would eventually find an unlocked bootloader, but I am pretty sure that is not happening now.
I was hoping that Google would have smacked MOTO and these cell carriers around a little more, and MADE them (Moto) unlock the bootloader more like the Galaxies have, in that if you do you lose support.
This WILL be my last MOTO device. The A3 looks very promising but is still behind the ONE X and SIII and if what I have been reading is correct MOTO is back to their old ways again.The newest OS updates for the OG Atrix and Photon are supposedly locking the bootloaders back down on those devices!!!
A big no no MOTO !!!
My update isnt until this winter but I can promise it will be on a device that isnt no where as restricted as what we have right now
So, if someone, for example: jimbridgman, could get the bootloader unlocked, would that entice the devs to be more inclined to (at the least) keep the A2 and work development for it?
This has been my fist Motorubbish phone, and was doing just fine with it prior to having gotten the bug to root, and get my n00by white butt into doing everything I can to learn up on how to dev for this phone... but now that I'm all goofy about development and such, I am inclined to keep it and try to help out in that regard.
But, on the opposite side of that coin, I am really considering getting myself a SGS3 and see where that take me. Admittedly, I am so intrigued with dev'ing and hacking and so forth that it's pretty well consumed my free time. Albeit, I am no where near getting started on anything; however, I can't help but to geek out just on the stuff I've seen you guys (devs) have been able to do.
I think I veered off topic, but nonetheless I like the A2, despite its limitations that Moto pushed upon us. However, I will NOT be getting my hands on the A3 when it comes out. Just doesn't seem worth it.
For anyone who is thinking of jumping ship, you might want to sell your Atrix2 before the A3 comes out, otherwise your A2 will be worthless on the used market. Right now you get 250-300 for the A2 on Ebay or craigslist. And if you put the 200 you would spend on the SGS III upgrade, you could get an SGS III, from someone selling a new un-activated SGS III. I have Friends who buy an Iphone at every upgrade that the Iphone gets, and then sells them on the open market at 3 times the upgrade price, then gets a new andriod phone with the profit, and they don't use another upgrade.
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For anyone who is thinking of jumping ship, you might want to sell your Atrix2 before the A3 comes out, otherwise your A2 will be worthless on the used market. Right now you get 250-300 for the A2 on Ebay or craigslist. And if you put the 200 you would spend on the SGS III upgrade, you could get an SGS III, from someone selling a new un-activated SGS III. I have Friends who buy an Iphone at every upgrade that the Iphone gets, and then sells them on the open market at 3 times the upgrade price, then gets a new andriod phone with the profit, and they don't use another upgrade.
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Do you have to pay at&T extra money for upgrading or changing your device before 2 years, or something like that? We had the phone less than a year, could I just go and buy another phone from AT&T just like that?
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So, what's the consensus... everyone leaning toward the SGS3?
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That's what i'm going with
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I AM getting the SGS III on the 18th. I pre-ordered mine on the 6th... I am hoping to have it in hand late on the 16th or 17th (my local store is great about doing that for me).
The A3 will be the same locked down crap that we have now, and the development of this phone is just so hard to do. Look, I have been working just about every night for at least 1 hour, if not a whole lot more some nights, since ~Oct. 20th to break this bootloader. I have been working on getting a FULL version of CM7 running since Jan/Feb. with little success, due to the craptastic stuff MOTO/AT&T have done to this phone.
I have a XOOM and I LOVE that thing, it was unlocked from day one, there was a command that you run with fastboot to unlock the bootloader. I was hoping that this phone would be more like the XOOM, and we would eventually find an unlocked bootloader, but I am pretty sure that is not happening now.
I was hoping that Google would have smacked MOTO and these cell carriers around a little more, and MADE them (Moto) unlock the bootloader more like the Galaxies have, in that if you do you lose support.
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Agreed. While you and a few others have worked hard to get us what we have for the A2, the development really never developed, hehe, pun intended. We all waited with baited breath for the bootloader to be unlocked, hoping it would spur the dev we all hoped for but it seems to be highly unlikely. I def appreciate the devs efforts though, you've made this phone decently enjoyable.
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So, if someone, for example: jimbridgman, could get the bootloader unlocked, would that entice the devs to be more inclined to (at the least) keep the A2 and work development for it?
I will NOT be getting my hands on the A3 when it comes out
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I'd imagine for a little while, but not many devs have this phone so the boost would be short lived, IMO. Too many phones out now that blow this out of the water, and more coming. I think the Atrix 2's opportunity to garner development success has come and gone
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Do you have to pay at&T extra money for upgrading or changing your device before 2 years, or something like that? We had the phone less than a year, could I just go and buy another phone from AT&T just like that?
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You'd have to buy the phone at full price, or add a line to your account to get it for the discounted price.
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You'd have to buy the phone at full price, or add a line to your account to get it for the discounted price.
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So people here will buy the SGS3 for like $600??
Oh it's look like pretty cool. I will sale m'y Atrix 4g if I Can buy it!
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So people here will buy the SGS3 for like $600??
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People do....that price is actually for the US version, people are buying the International version for $700+
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So people here will buy the SGS3 for like $600??
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Yep, if you don't have an upgrade that is your ONLY option, that or like what 916x10 mentioned, about adding a line to your account to get it for 199.
I happen to get an upgrade just about every 6 months, since I have been with AT&T since '99, and I have ALWAYS had upgrade ability in the 6-12 month timeframe, even with a 2 year contract.... similar to the iphones "early upgrade" that you hear about.... I have no clue how, but that is just what I have had for going on 13 years now.
Remember you CAN sell the A2 for a decent price right now, even used they can go for 250-300 since they are a "4g" phone, but that will not last long, if the A3 comes out next month... just think about it... the A2 used price will drop to 99 most likely.
People pay these higher prices because they don't like their phone, or want the latest and greatest, and either don't want to use an upgrade, or don't have one.
Anyone can do this, and AT&T will not charge you anything, since all you have to do is put your SIM in the new phone, and that is pretty much it. Now with an LTE phone, you may have to go to a store and update your plan, but even still the worst they will charge you is a 25 dollar "upgrade" cost.
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Yep, if you don't have an upgrade that is your ONLY option, that or like what 916x10 mentioned, about adding a line to your account to get it for 199.
I happen to get an upgrade just about every 6 months, since I have been with AT&T since '99, and I have ALWAYS had upgrade ability in the 6-12 month timeframe, even with a 2 year contract.... similar to the iphones "early upgrade" that you hear about.... I have no clue how, but that is just what I have had for going on 13 years now.
Remember you CAN sell the A2 for a decent price right now, even used they can go for 250-300 since they are a "4g" phone, but that will not last long, if the A3 comes out next month... just think about it... the A2 used price will drop to 99 most likely.
People pay these higher prices because they don't like their phone, or want the latest and greatest, and either don't want to use an upgrade, or don't have one.
Anyone can do this, and AT&T will not charge you anything, since all you have to do is put your SIM in the new phone, and that is pretty much it. Now with an LTE phone, you may have to go to a store and update your plan, but even still the worst they will charge you is a 25 dollar "upgrade" cost.
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Oh... I see. I used my upgrade for this Atrix 2, that I got for free too. That's very cool that you can get upgrades every 6 months. I wonder if there is any way for other people to do the same. I would like to see a newer cell phone, but with this economy I cannot see myself spending that amount of money. Oh well... :/
Off topic but about bootloaders..
before this phone i had an xperia x10 and development went well.the bootloader wasnt unlocked untill the very end when i had that phone.
My question is..how is it we were running custom kernels ,roms like cm7 with its own kernel ..without an unlocked bootloader at that time?
I remember outta nowhere the bootloader was cracked and nothing major came from it.at that time i didnt even know what the purpose was as we were already flashing custom kernels and roms that use them. All that changed was no more bootloader logo lol.
Now today i know alittle bit more and i think back and wonder why it was we didnt require an unlocked bootloader to run custom kernels ...
Jim.maybe you know?..
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rdavisct said:
Off topic but about bootloaders..
before this phone i had an xperia x10 and development went well.the bootloader wasnt unlocked untill the very end when i had that phone.
My question is..how is it we were running custom kernels ,roms like cm7 with its own kernel ..without an unlocked bootloader at that time?
I remember outta nowhere the bootloader was cracked and nothing major came from it.at that time i didnt even know what the purpose was as we were already flashing custom kernels and roms that use them. All that changed was no more bootloader logo lol.
Now today i know alittle bit more and i think back and wonder why it was we didnt require an unlocked bootloader to run custom kernels ...
Jim.maybe you know?..
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Yep. I too had an X10, the dev on that thing was ridiculous! I never unlocked the bootloader but did all the other mods I could. I didn't understand all the fuss about the bootloader when I first got my A2 but apparently Motorola does things a little differently. IIRC, some of the x10 guys helped get our dev off the ground with their help on our recovery.
Those guys have some pretty cool ICS roms now...I was running Wolfbreak and man it was nice.
i like A2 better~!
i like A2 better~!
Sweet jumpin' Jeebus! The SGS3 is hitting benchmark scores of at/around 13000? Can that be right?
That. Is. Ree-diculous-ness! I really want one. Errgh...
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This is ONLY for you who do plan to buy the Sensation. Are you going to buy day 1 no matter what? Waiting to see if the initial reviews are good, but not for it to be rooted and bootloader unlocked? Waiting for it to be rooted and the bootloader unlocked? Waiting for root, unlocked bootloader and S-OFF? Let's see the figures in a poll .
I'm waiting for at least the Sensation to be rooted and the bootloader unlocked.
Of course "bootloaded unlocked" should read "boot loader unlocked" .
Just waiting to see the initial reviews. I am hoping to see that there is no sort of LAG and good battery life(at least full day of average usage per charge). Also a good GPS is a must for me. I really dont care about the benchmarks like most the people. I want to have a solid working phone with no reception issues, no bleeding issues and no software issues. I am sure that some devs would be getting this phone and before we know it would have root and more. For now I cant wait to see some real world reviews of the final product!
Day 1 I'm calling up CC to get it hopefully with a 1 year extension for $50 more than the 2 year price.
I can live without s-off but I can't without root & unlocked bootloader. I really hope this baby will be cracked or I'll be forced to keep my Desire a few more months. :/
Im sure it will be cracked. Alot of devs will be getting their hands on this phone. Seeing as its going to be the first dual core htc phone for tmobile. The question is how long will it take to be cracked. People thought the g2 was a lost cause but it happend.
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Day 1 I'm calling up CC to get it hopefully with a 1 year extension for $50 more than the 2 year price.
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Same here for calling customer care asap when released. Not worried about the bootloader cause I'm sure something will come along that will allow custom Roms. If not, well I'm currently running sense 3.0 port on g2 and it's freaking awesome. Now throw in much better hardware sound make for a great experience.
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i'm drooling to have this but i need the price to drop, otherwise i will get the Nexus S
I think I won't wait and I'll just read reviews but lemme ask you.. what's so bad in HTC's rom at all or in the boot loader? (not that I know what it is.. never had Anroid so this is going to be the first hopefully)
I live in the US. But the UK will be having it first on the the 18th if im not mistaken. I have at least june 8th to decide. "HOPEFULLY" when it lands on the US itll be rooted and an unlocked bootloader. But either way im getting it.
I'm 90% sure it will be cracked, so I'm buying on day 1. Selling my two current phones (Desire HD and Galaxy S i9000) to get it.
I already ordered mine on Handtec. Hopefully the idiotic customs bureaucracy we got here in Israel won't delay it too much.
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i'm drooling to have this but i need the price to drop, otherwise i will get the Nexus S
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has it said anywhere what the price will be? I'm hoping it'll be $200-250
Already pre-ordered mine
Given the developments in Sense 3.0, I'm not too worried if it gets unlocked or not, but I guess it would be nice if the community found a way into it!
After buying the samsung i8910 day 1, without reviews, I've decided to wait for some initial reviews from now on to prevent making bad decisions again.
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After buying the samsung i8910 day 1, without reviews, I've decided to wait for some initial reviews from now on to prevent making bad decisions again.
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What is S-OFF really?
please tell me.. I am quite a newbie sorry:$
Play.com put this up for pre-order @ £499.99 in the UK. Tracked £17 odd cashback on my TopCashback too. Not too bad. Really hope S-OFF Can be achieved, but not a massive deal, I have 2 other phones I can mess with custom roms on, and switch between them all. But I'd imagine the XTC clip should be able to do it, if it can for the IS and DS.
+1 ill be in line on June 8th early
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Omicron90 said:
Already pre-ordered mine
Given the developments in Sense 3.0, I'm not too worried if it gets unlocked or not, but I guess it would be nice if the community found a way into it!
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Me too.
Pre-ordered mine from play.com this morning, unlocked. They've got a date of 30th June.
I bought a G2x, returned it for another one, it too was plagued by the random reboots, so I returned it and got a Nexus S... Which due to my poor planning has to be returned by June 3rd... so, I am going to resort to borrowing a G1 for a few weeks so I can have the Nexus S money back in hand come release-day for the Sensation.
I'm not sure what people are all freaked out about - the MT4G and G2 didn't get unlocked for several weeks after their release. Give the XDA masters a chance to work their magic
Just wanted to post my experience and hear of others that are also making the move.
Now I may have a totally different view than most, but Overall, this phone was pretty awesome. First I had a G1 on T-Mobile. The excitement of learning Android and having the first phone was fun. I've been fortunate to be involved in every dessert update. Finding XDA, rooting, learning ADB, all the learning of all the other stuff was awesome. Then I jumped ship and got the Droid Eris. Now shortly after getting it, I regretted the hell out of my decision. I should have gotten the OG Droid. But XDA helped me love my phone. Cyanagen, and other ROMs were awesome, and the Eris forum and developers were funny and friendly. Then with 2 months left in my contract and waiting for the Droid 3 to come out, I won the Droid Charge in the droid landing contest. I enjoyed the 4g fastness and tried to keep things stock, but I keep lingering on XDA and finally gave in. I couldn't believe how easy it was to Root and flash this phone. With that, I spent less time in this forum and didn't really post much. I purchased the TBH app leaks and didn't really come by and participate. But I will say that this phone at first was great, but really is a disappointment. Great cause the SCREEN, the easiness of rooting and flashing, and that's about it. The 4G never works when you need it the most. Don't get me wrong. When it works, its amazing! But those times it freezes and then goes to 3g then goes back and freezes, etc...RAM was not enough to do all this phone is trying to do. And of course the battery, but that's universal.
Now, I've sold my charge and have a prepaid VZW card for $300 ready to pre-order the Galaxy Nexus. My contracts is up, and I still have a new every 2 credit. I look forward to the excitement and fun experienced with the G1. This is a whole new OS, and I'm sure I'll be spending a lot of time in the XDA forums. I'm in total love with ICS. I was not disappointed at all with ICS. The hardware of the Nexus, um maybe, but you gotta be real picky. I think this is a phone I can finally have for 2 years and be happy with the whole time. Quad core phones next year, then by 2013 maybe HD projection phones. But this phone should be able to stand up to most competition till then. Hope it gets all the updates, and quickly. Jellybean?
I've got my money ready for the 10th.
I really dig my Charge, but I've been waiting for a pure AOSP experience on Verizon for far too long.
You traded in your Charge for $300 with Verizon?
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You traded in your Charge for $300 with Verizon?
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No, I sold it on craig's list, and purchased a gift card...
i have the buy back program from best buy, i hope i can get something from it.
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No, I sold it on craig's list, and purchased a gift card...
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Hm, I'm planning on doing the same. The Galaxy Nexus is quite a sexy phone.
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Hope it gets all the updates, and quickly. Jellybean?
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Isn't anybody ever happy with anything? Is nothing good enough? ICS and the first phone to carry it were just announced not even 24 hours ago and you already want Jellybean on the phone? Good grief.
I want it for the ICS and dual core. Not sure if I'll be able to afford it or not though. Can't really blame ya for wanting to jump since it is such a bada** phone in specs. I'm kinda so-so with my Charge.
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Isn't anybody ever happy with anything? Is nothing good enough? ICS and the first phone to carry it were just announced not even 24 hours ago and you already want Jellybean on the phone? Good grief.
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LOL...I think my post got misread by yourself, or mistyped by me. What I was referring to is that I plan on keeping this phone for 2 years. I'm hoping that in the 2 years, what ever updates that happen to come out, the Nexus gets them quickly. Then I put jellybean with a "?" thinking maybe if in that time it would get it. Like I posted above, I'm in love with ICS and would be fine having it for 2 years. But we all know that google updates pretty quickly. I have no idea what they could add, cause ICS is great, but when it's(JB) announced, we're all gonna want it, and soon. Just like ICS, GB, FY, ECL, DN, and Cupcake. Ahh, Cupcake.
Man, I remember waiting for Cupcake and wanting it so bad. Touchscreen keyboard, widgets, and record/playback video.
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i have the buy back program from best buy, i hope i can get something from it.
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Doing this too. I paid full price for my charge since my contract wasn't up, but it is now. So hopeing to use that 50%-60% that I'm supposed to get back to buy the Galaxy Nexus. Now watch them not carry it >.<
Kind of in the same boat. I'm just not sure I can deal with this phone for 2 years. I've looked around a bit to see what I can get for it plus the stuff I got for it. I'm more interested in the Droid Razr, but regardless I don't know if I can justify that kind of cost.
I paid full off contract retail price for a VZW SG3 only to find out it has a locked bootloader. I have a couple of more days in the 14 day window that I can return it in. Should I do that and wait for the developer edition, or will there be a lack of support for it as so few people will have it? Will I be able to flash Roms and kernels created for the other carriers. Pretty much looking for opinions on whether or not it would be a waste to jump through hoops, pay restocking fees, and wait for Samsung's release just to end up in the same boat I would have been in anyway. Thanks for your opinions in advance.
You are one of many, i've spent a decent amount of hours myself trying to figure out whats the next best step.
I don't think anyone has a solid 100% answer right now, I wish there was. but here are my 2 cents:
Personally I'm debating if should return the phone and go with Sprint, problem is Sprint isn't as half as good as VZW in my area so thats a pretty big sacrifice just to be able to load custom roms, as important as it may be.
If you're in the same boat, where you don't really have another decent option, all you can do is wait and hope.
I'm sure this phone won't fall through the cracks mainly due to it's huge fan base and demand, the devs here have yet to disappoint.
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You are one of many, i've spent a decent amount of hours myself trying to figure out whats the next best step.
I don't think anyone has a solid 100% answer right now, I wish there was. but here are my 2 cents:
Personally I'm debating if should return the phone and go with Sprint, problem is Sprint isn't as half as good as VZW in my area so thats a pretty big sacrifice just to be able to load custom roms, as important as it may be.
If you're in the same boat, where you don't really have another decent option, all you can do is wait and hope.
I'm sure this phone won't fall through the cracks mainly due to it's huge fan base and demand, the devs here have yet to disappoint.
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Yeah, switching carriers isn't a viable option for me. My family works for Verizon (not wireless) so I get a hefty discount on my rates. I think the main thing that bugs me is I paid $600 for a phone and now I have to sit and watch the other carriers dev forums blow up with cool stuff while we are spinning our wheels. I just bought a Nexus 7 solely to tinker with as I have a Galaxy 10.1 as my workhorse. Maybe when that gets here it will help.
Anybody else in this situation? What are you going to do?
I read somewhere on this site that the non dev version was getting an update to unlock it. This was supposedly from Verizon rep. It's hard to believe since they are selling a separate dev version.
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I read somewhere on this site that the non dev version was getting an update to unlock it. This was supposedly from Verizon rep. It's hard to believe since they are selling a separate dev version.
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This was debunked, it's not happening; I don't remember what Android site I saw that on, though.
On another note, will people be able to install Sprint SGS 3 ROMs without any troubles on the Verizon SGS 3 Developer Edition, or is that not going to be possible? I'm thinking about getting the Developer one when it comes out, but if we're going to be retarded stepchildren compared to other SGS 3 forums, I won't bother.
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I read somewhere on this site that the non dev version was getting an update to unlock it. This was supposedly from Verizon rep. It's hard to believe since they are selling a separate dev version.
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That's been debunked. It was reps confusing bootloader unlock with global gsm unlock.
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This was debunked, it's not happening; I don't remember what Android site I saw that on, though.
On another note, will people be able to install Sprint SGS 3 ROMs without any troubles on the Verizon SGS 3 Developer Edition, or is that not going to be possible? I'm thinking about getting the Developer one when it comes out, but if we're going to be retarded stepchildren compared to other SGS 3 forums, I won't bother.
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Android Authority I believe.
Roland Deschain said:
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On another note, will people be able to install Sprint SGS 3 ROMs without any troubles on the Verizon SGS 3 Developer Edition, or is that not going to be possible? I'm thinking about getting the Developer one when it comes out, but if we're going to be retarded stepchildren compared to other SGS 3 forums, I won't bother.
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Exactly how I feel, and what I would like to know.
I read on here that the dev version has a 30 day warranty that is all. No one year manufacturer warranty like the rest so that ills it for me.
I was hesitant to hijack a similar thread about finding a 1.85 One X, so I figured I'd ask separately. I've found a couple One X's on Craigslist, and at least one new-in-box running 1.85. However, the guy selling it wants $100 on top of trading him my phone (a couple days old, running 2.20). I tried offering $50, but he's solid at $100.
Was just wondering, since I'm newer to these boards than most (and to the rooting procedure for Androids)... would it be worth it to trade the phone and $100 to get one I know I could root? Warranty-wise I should be okay, as someone stated elsewhere that the phone's protected for a year with HTC regardless (though I'm assuming AT&T would no longer cover my phone in case something breaks?). Just trying to weigh out if it's worth the extra cash to be able to root this otherwise fan-frigging-tastic cell phone, or if I'd be better off waiting to see if either HTC/AT&T throws us a bone or someone finds a loophole.
Apologies if asking for a purchasing opinion like this makes me a gigantic asshole, but otherwise, thanks for the input.
I would never do that
But if your willing to pay that.much for root then go for it
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That's just too much. I was able to sell mine and buy a new one with 1.85 on the same day for the same price I sold it. Just be patient and wait for the right deal.
HOX on craiglist are selling for around $300.00.
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That's just too much. I was able to sell mine and buy a new one with 1.85 on the same day for the same price I sold it. Just be patient and wait for the right deal.
HOX on craiglist are selling for around $300.00.
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Thanks, yeah. Thinking I was letting myself get a little root crazy. Just sucks to see such a sweet device begging for root. Ah well, I'm sure patience will be rewarded.
Whether its worth it or not completely depends on how much that extra $100 means to you, and how much rooting (and unlocking the bootloader if you want that) means to you. For some people, $100 may be a perfectly affordable luxury, and it may bring them great joy to mod the phone, play around with custom ROMs, etc.. For others, they may be on more of a budget, or simply not mod the phone enough to justify the expense.
Charging an extra $100 for something that a lot of people want doesn't seem too unreasonable. Especially since its new in box, and yours presumably is not.
Of course, the worst case scenario would be if a root solution (or AT&T allowing the bootloader to be unlocked "officially") right after you make the trade and spend the $100. That would be a real bummer. But not really much of a way of knowing if either is going to happen anytime soon, and how long your are willing to wait.
Coming on here and asking opinions is fine (certainly doesn't make you an a$$hole IMO). But in the end, looking inside yourself is where you are going to find your final answer.
What's the main reason why you want a rooted/unlocked device? If it's for custom ROMS, waiting isn't necessarily a bad thing because right now the 4.1 Sense custom ROMs for US phones are not quite final. If it's free wifi tether, there are a couple apps that don't require root (have not tried them myself though).
$100 is a good amount of cash if you assume that a 2.2 root/unlock is coming eventually. By then, you may even have a Jelly Bean ROM that is fully working so may be worth the wait. I would say enjoy your phone and wait for the 2.2 Root.
If I see another crappy metro/huawei or no name device with sub-par or similar hardware compared to our phone running official ics, jb or cm10.1 I'm going to grab it and light it on fire. When I bought this phone it was a toss up between the galaxy s2 and the g2x. I bought the g2x because Mr. T-Mobile man talked me into it (they were the same price.) This was before I really knew anything about android as far as rooting and custom firm of course. This device could easily be given an official ICS update at the VERY least. LG screwed us, hard and long. On a scale of 1-10 I give this screwing a 9, ONLY because the amazing developers we have here stretched this device to its absolute limits and continue to do more. If it weren't for them, well I don't even want to think about that. So on a scale of 1-10, how hard do you feel you've been screwed by LG?
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If I see another crappy metro/huawei or no name device with sub-par or similar hardware compared to our phone running official ics, jb or cm10.1 I'm going to grab it and light it on fire. When I bought this phone it was a toss up between the galaxy s2 and the g2x. I bought the g2x because Mr. T-Mobile man talked me into it (they were the same price.) This was before I really knew anything about android as far as rooting and custom firm of course. This device could easily be given an official ICS update at the VERY least. LG screwed us, hard and long. On a scale of 1-10 I give this screwing a 9, ONLY because the amazing developers we have here stretched this device to its absolute limits and continue to do more. If it weren't for them, well I don't even want to think about that. So on a scale of 1-10, how hard do you feel you've been screwed by LG?
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I'd actually rate it as a screwing of 10. The awesome quality of roms, updates and patches that the developers here have provided doesn't change the fact that LGE ****ed us over. I made A LOT of noise about this to Wind Mobile here in Canada early on because I didn't quite understand that it wasn't the carrier holding me back (Wind's P999 is still officially on Froyo if I'm not mistaken ... I installed CM7 immediately so I don't know if one update ever made it out).
Nothing but love for everyone here who tried to squeeze some additional life out of this device. Hell, if giveen manages to get the radio working (others have tried previously) then I'd say the G2x can once again be a half decent phone.
It's truly a shame that a vendor as large as LG would treat a community of consumers so poorly. Never again LG, never again ...
I'm going to say almost no chance off me getting radio to work. I'm being honest.
I've looked over it, examined it with a few other dev's and a couple programmer friends and everything points that it should work, the only thing we can't look at is the precompiled RIL
I don't think they screwed us that bad. From the get go lots of people had issues with this phone and chances are they have a new phone by now. I've had mine for 2 1/2 years now. Its the only phone I've been able to keep. Yes a working ics would be awesome but when I bought the phone I had no idea what any of that was lol. I played w/ a nexus4 and even though it was cool didn't feel the need to spend all that money for features I wouldn't use. Everything I need to do I can do on this phone. So on a scale of 1-10 I would give a 5 only because they screwed alot of people from the get go.
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Its all because of the tegra 2 chip, it was no longer supported by them...although samsung still does which is odd and awesome :0 stupid LG... if it had a qualcomm chipset it would still be have support from LG therefore never buy tegra devices lmao:silly:
10! Terribly mishandled by lg and they wiped their hands clean and pretended phone never existed. Backlight bleeding, major software issues even on gingerbread, yea we all know the potential it had but oh well. Ran with it for two years and glad to have left this junk phone behind
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I'm going to say almost no chance off me getting radio to work. I'm being honest.
I've looked over it, examined it with a few other dev's and a couple programmer friends and everything points that it should work, the only thing we can't look at is the precompiled RIL
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That's too bad, but knowing the amount of effort you and others have invested no one will complain (or shouldn't at least )
As soon as my contract is up and I can dump this phone without having to pay the remainder of the "Wind tab", I will be glad to move on to something that's NOT an LG product.
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That's too bad, but knowing the amount of effort you and others have invested no one will complain (or shouldn't at least )
As soon as my contract is up and I can dump this phone without having to pay the remainder of the "Wind tab", I will be glad to move on to something that's NOT an LG product.
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Yeah, I am pretty disappointed myself. I came in here thinking that it would be a snap but I ended up stuck just as everyone else.
Its always proprietary files that are the issue.
It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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I'm pretty sure it is LG though. If LG doesn't release updates to the carriers, the carriers can't spend months and months injecting bloatware into those updates before releasing them to us. the suckers ...er customers.
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It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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Then why did T-Mobile get GB and Wind did not? Wind ROMs have no bloatware at all.
From what I heard Wind didn't get the update because they didn't sell enough sets. That to me kind of makes sense.
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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I was agreeing with you above (lol, posted reply to the wrong one).
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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Then why did T-Mobile get GB and Wind did not? Wind ROMs have no bloatware at all.
From what I heard Wind didn't get the update because they didn't sell enough sets. That to me kind of makes sense.
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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I was agreeing with you above (lol, posted reply to the wrong one).
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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It still sucks ... especially for those of us suckers (*cough* me *cough*) who still have 14 months to go on their no contract "contract" with Wind.
Oh well, live an learn. This experience made me so wary of LG that I didn't snap up a nexus 4 when they were on sale in the play store
should have gotten it. Updates for the nexus are handled by Google directly, NOT LG....thank god lol
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should have gotten it. Updates for the nexus are handled by Google directly, NOT LG....thank god lol
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Nexus 4 is boss . I love this phone. Won't need to get the n5 anytime soon .
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It still sucks ... especially for those of us suckers (*cough* me *cough*) who still have 14 months to go on their no contract "contract" with Wind.
Oh well, live an learn. This experience made me so wary of LG that I didn't snap up a nexus 4 when they were on sale in the play store
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What contract? if you want out buy the phone from them. Really and truthfully you are buying the phone either up front or to cancel the "contract" they do not hold you in nor charge you more then needed to pay for the phone. I still don't understand why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
i would give a 9 for my experience with LG. within months the headphone jack went bad and would barely hold the plug, the usb port is crappy, and sometimes wouldn't charge properly (both were denied under warrenty. The lack of updates is the biggest issues. The only reason this phone had life is because of the Hard work of modders then they went and fudged all that with the new base band update that broke the Bluetooth for modded phones.
At the time this was suppose to be their flagship phone, it was also the beefiest and fastest phone on the market, I was told like may others it will be updated only to get nothing out of it. Worse is that they allowed and branded it incorrectly in the Canadian Market.
I'll give it a point since it was built like a brick, i have dropped it so many times (after the aforementioned issues) and it still kept chugging for just over 2 years, eventually the screen went weird and acted like someone was constantly tapping it so i swapped it with an S4, a phone i know for sure will be supported and i can actually find proper accessories for it. The price point of the Nexus 5 is temping for sure, but when i check most cell phone stores in my area They carry mainly iphone and samsung accessories, which make up over 80% of the stock in some stores. This goes to show the popularity of the phones
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What contract? if you want out buy the phone from them. Really and truthfully you are buying the phone either up front or to cancel the "contract" they do not hold you in nor charge you more then needed to pay for the phone. I still don't understand why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
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It's not hard to understand at all, it just kind of sucks. The "original" price was $350 for the phone, which the Windtab covers (and nullifies at the end of 3 years). After 24 months, the tab is sitting at $290. I could buy the phone out, but it seems like a waste of money. I'm otherwise happy with wind so I'll keep an eye out for a replacement phone and just wait another year for the "contract" to expire.
I tend to ***** about the G2x mostly since it seemed to hold so much promise, was dropped very quickly by the manufacturer, and as a result I've got something that can't be updated, but I still have to pay for. I probably wouldn't complain as much if I'd already finished paying for the phone
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It's not hard to understand at all, it just kind of sucks. The "original" price was $350 for the phone, which the Windtab covers (and nullifies at the end of 3 years). After 24 months, the tab is sitting at $290. I could buy the phone out, but it seems like a waste of money. I'm otherwise happy with wind so I'll keep an eye out for a replacement phone and just wait another year for the "contract" to expire.
I tend to ***** about the G2x mostly since it seemed to hold so much promise, was dropped very quickly by the manufacturer, and as a result I've got something that can't be updated, but I still have to pay for. I probably wouldn't complain as much if I'd already finished paying for the phone
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The original premise of Wind was no contracts, you buy a phone from them full price, choose a plan, choose a payment option (pre or post paid) and done. People wanted subsidized phones so they brought out the Wind tab. Here you are paying for the phone AFTER you used it not before, there are still no extra fees for it if you want to leave early. And it's 24 months, never has it been 36 months. In the end you are still buying the phone and used it for quite some time now, except now for you it's $290 vs $350, you still saved money I don't get how It's not worth it?
Initially wind tab would take 36 months to pay off, after the CRTC changed the rules all the providers have now switched to 24 months. Only customers who got the plan after the rule change get the 2 year tab, the rest have to complete the full 3 years
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This was more of a gangbang situation. Lg got some, nvidia got some, and T-Mobile got a piece too. And if you're unfortunate enough to be screwed by wind they seem even more despicable still! Wind definitely deserves a 10.
Lg 8 for putting this particular modem on this particular phone.
Nvidia 4 for being present lol
T-mobile 5 for acting like this phone was the poop and then tossing it like a dirty diaper.
On the brighter side a lot of us are reaching the end of the line with this thing and if nothing else it's been a great learning experience. This phone is so picky about kernels and settings and charging that we've had to become super disciplined about how we treat our phone or else it burns your nightstand. Plus having witnessed the long and frustrating journey of many devs pushing this phone just a little further each time has definitely enlightened me on how hard these guys work for something we all profit from. Holy crap this post got long! My bad. Carry on.
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Initially wind tab would take 36 months to pay off, after the CRTC changed the rules all the providers have now switched to 24 months. Only customers who got the plan after the rule change get the 2 year tab, the rest have to complete the full 3 years
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Granted but he shouldn't really be complaining about the price of a phone he bought a year ago and using all this time, he should pay the price of when he started using it, not how much it's worth a year later, it's really just a selfish attitude