[Q] about nonandriod and cwm backup question - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

i have read many before i post here. but i am noob and with a bad understanding brain.
my question is what is the nonandriod or cwm full backup and restore used to? fror example, after i backup, i flash my Phone from ucla3 to ics roms. then if i want to come back to the stock rom before flash. i need to find a stock romto reflash with odin or i can just do that with nonandriodrestore. the full restore for everying or just build , what about base and kenal? if i need reflash stock rom with odin anyway , why it is recommend full backup before flash. please give me an example to explain. thanks in advance

Nandrorid is like a snapshot of your phone's operating system state. Restoring a nandroid gives you a return to the way you booted and ran your phone's android version at the time of back up.
Not included are the modem or radio and the recovery image (like CWM or stock 3e). Those you can flash separately to change. User data held in phone storage after the backup must be saved offline (externally) before restoring. For me it means latest call logs, contacts and sms.
The nandroid restore wipes phone storage and recreates the standing configuration you backed up, like reimaging a raw PC hard drive Partitions, file systems, boot resources and data are all (re)applied in the process.

pc103 said:
Nandrorid is like a snapshot of your phone's operating system state. Restoring a nandroid gives you a return to the way you booted and ran your phone's android version at the time of back up.
Not included are the modem or radio and the recovery image (like CWM or stock 3e). Those you can flash separately to change. User data held in phone storage after the backup must be saved offline (externally) before restoring. For me it means latest call logs, contacts and sms.
The nandroid restore wipes phone storage and recreates the standing configuration you backed up, like reimaging a raw PC hard drive Partitions, file systems, boot resources and data are all (re)applied in the process.
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you means if i use custom sky ics now and i do a nandrorid restore, i can not go back to GB 2.36??(if i have done a nandrorid backup for 2.36 before i install the sky ics??)

You can but you'll need to flash the la3 radio first.
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[Q] How do I do a full backup of my phone?

I rooted my Desire S and now I want to install a ROM on it, this is my first time so I'm being a little cautious.
How do I make a full backup of my phone? In the case I don't like the ROM and want to return to how my phone is now, is this possible?
If so, how to make this backup? And how would I restore my phone back to it?
Thanks!
Assuming you've rooted your phone and put a custom recovery on it (4EXT or CWM), run a backup - also called a NANDROID backup - and that will give you an image saved on your SD Card that you can restore if you ever need to.
Alright, I've got CWM and just did a NANDROID backup, it created 6 files on my sd card, which are:
boot.img
cache.img
data.img
nandroid.md5
recovery.img
system.img
How do I used these files to restore back to if I ever need to?
Just go into CWM again and select 'Restore'. I don't know if it is 100% necessary, but I always do a full wipe of all partitions (except for sdcard) before restoring as well just to be certain.
Alright, thanks for that!
Since that back up is done, going to back up all my app's now then flash my first ROM
Assuming (again) that you are using Titanium Backup to backup your apps - although this is probably true for other backup methods - be careful when restoring. There can be problems if you are restoring Sense app backups to an AOSP ROM or vice-versa. If you start getting problems post-restore then try restoring a few apps at a time to see if you can pin-down the problem app. From my experience, it's often better to install the app fresh from the marketplace and then restore just the settings (if you need them).
Make sure to use md5 sum check and verify them after every backup. It's good practice to avoid corruptions.
I use 4Ext control for that
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Question about ClockworkMod Recovery and ICS Rom

I was suggested to flash an ICS ROM, so first I was wondering which one is best for beginners. I was previously using Andromeda.
Anyways, I am following the instructions for CyanogenMod9 but when i go into recovery mode and choose backup there is no choice that says "NAND Backup"....I just clicked backup is this something different. Please help...
I have some things on my phone that I would not want to lose
Before anything backup everything on your phone you don't wanna loose cuz you never know. There are many great roms around have fun flashing them. I personally recommend AOKP.
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thanks, but was the backup I performed the proper one to do before flashing a new ROM??
It was, for the most part. The backup you perform (called a Nandroid Backup) makes a snapshot of the system configuration at the time you backed it up.
If you ever want to come back to where you were, just flash back to Andromeda and restore that backup.
If you're wanting a backup that will cross the Andromeda-ICS gap, though, you'll need something like Titanium Backup, as a Nandroid backup is specific to the configuration it was created in (i.e. you have to be in the same ROM to restore from that backup).
NOTE: --VERY IMPORTANT-- Nandroid backups DO NOT back up your pictures, music, documents, etc. These are separate items on the Internal SD card.
I would highly recommend that before you go any further that you plug your phone into your computer and copy everything that shows up on the internal SD card to a safe place. While you're at it, make a copy of your /efs folder.
thanks I made a backup of everything else...what was the efs folder? from it being unlocked?
anyways now I can proceed to wiping the data to flash the rom of my choice?

[Q] How to use Nandroid backup and what exactly it does restore?

Hello,
I have problems restoring from nandroid backup.
Here what I did"
1) Flashed ROM1 and Flashed Kernel1.
2) Installed all My apps which I use.
3) Took Nandroid back-up.
4) Flashed ROM2. Flashed Kernel1.
5) Installed all apps.
6) After 1 days reflashed ROM1 and Kernel1.
7) Tried restoring Nandroid back-up I created 1 day back.
AND IT FAILS!!
Everytime I did a complete wipe of all data and catch and dalvik.
Same happened with CWM and AmonRa
CWM: md5 sums mismatch!!
AmonRa: Oops! Something went wrong!!
Am I mistaken about Nandroid back-up? Am I doing something wrong?
Actually I wanted to restore all my apps and data related to apps. I took whole system and data and everything backed up in the option.
1 Nandroid backup means it reflashes your backed up system with all your installed apps i.e if you have gb rom and do nandroid backup it will backup your current system( in this case gb) with all installed apps at the time you did backup.
2 You said it failed did it display any error while backing your nandroid backup.
3 Never heard of a backup being failed, you must have messed up something.
4 Md5 checksum mismatch means you either had a bad flash or if you moved or replaced some file also backup from different recovery will not work if you backed up from cmw then you cannot restore from amonra recovery, did you change recovery after backing up if you did then it wont work.
5. If you want to backup your apps and data next time try backing it with titanium backup root.Open titanium backup and press batch and then press backup all apps + data.
6. After flashimg new rom install titanium backup root from google play and press restore all app+data this will restore your apps with data.
7. If you use nandroid backup then your rom also changes to the rom that you had while backing up.
hope this helps
Go to your SDcard.. search and go to clockworkmod folder.. go to backup.. now whichever file you see.. Rename it xyz or anything WITHOUT any space!!
Try restoring then!!
hsingh1993 said:
1 Nandroid backup means it reflashes your backed up system with all your installed apps i.e if you have gb rom and do nandroid backup it will backup your current system( in this case gb) with all installed apps at the time you did backup.
2 You said it failed did it display any error while backing your nandroid backup.
3 Never heard of a backup being failed, you must have messed up something.
4 Md5 checksum mismatch means you either had a bad flash or if you moved or replaced some file also backup from different recovery will not work if you backed up from cmw then you cannot restore from amonra recovery, did you change recovery after backing up if you did then it wont work.
5. If you want to backup your apps and data next time try backing it with titanium backup root.Open titanium backup and press batch and then press backup all apps + data.
6. After flashimg new rom install titanium backup root from google play and press restore all app+data this will restore your apps with data.
7. If you use nandroid backup then your rom also changes to the rom that you had while backing up.
hope this helps
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I hadn't change anything but the name of the folder with some appropriate name like "CM-9.1.1 Final + CandiedIce Kernel + Apps", so that I can recognize it when I need it. No changes in the 5-6 files of recovery.
Didn't try restoring CWM back-up with AmonRa. Tried Amonra to Amonra and CWM to CWM. Failed all times (almost 5 to 6 times).
Does making folder name without any spaces in between work? If it's so, it's weird!! Is it that way? Should the folder name has to have NO SPACE?
"clockworkmode > backup > CM-9.1.1 + CandiedIce Kernel + Apps" - won't work.
But "clockworkmode > backup > CM-9.1.1+CandiedIce_Kernel+Apps" - will work??
Also, as known CWM couldn't back-up sdext. But otherwise No Error. While AmonRa did all back-up without any sort of error.
Dude.. just do it. WITHOUT ANY SPACE.. if you want to restore!!
And keep a small name!!
Eg: cm9.1.1.candied.ice
Dont use any special characters like $ & #
Thanks
rr0yy said:
Dude.. just do it. WITHOUT ANY SPACE.. if you want to restore!!
And keep a small name!!
Eg: cm9.1.1.candied.ice
Dont use any special characters like $ & #
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Thanks for the betterment of my knowledge. I shall keep this in mind for future use!! Recently I am stable with CM 9.1.1 without Gapps.
rr0yy said:
Dude.. just do it. WITHOUT ANY SPACE.. if you want to restore!!
And keep a small name!!
Eg: cm9.1.1.candied.ice
Dont use any special characters like $ & #
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Thanks man for the tip! :good:
I usually put spaces in my backup though i have'nt encountered that problem.
wyndcryst25 said:
Thanks man for the tip! :good:
I usually put spaces in my backup though i have'nt encountered that problem.
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So keeping a small name and without spaces is important??
sn809 said:
So keeping a small name and without spaces is important??
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yes, this is Linux, means no spaces.
i have a question about this subject,
if i want to backup my rom my stock 4.1.1 on my galaxy nexus how can i do that so that when and if i choose to return or sell the phone i would like to load up the stock Rom back on the phone in case the person isnt tech friendly.
does a Nandroid back up Rom files and kernel as well ???
thanks for any help guys
fariswheel said:
i have a question about this subject,
if i want to backup my rom my stock 4.1.1 on my galaxy nexus how can i do that so that when and if i choose to return or sell the phone i would like to load up the stock Rom back on the phone in case the person isnt tech friendly.
does a Nandroid back up Rom files and kernel as well ???
thanks for any help guys
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Use a custom recovery to backup. You can find them at galaxy nexus forum on xda
Yes, it restores everything. Nandroid backup is 1:1 copy of your entire phone memory. It will even restore your messages, call logs, accounts etc
sarus_b said:
Use a custom recovery to backup. You can find them at galaxy nexus forum on xda
Yes, it restores everything. Nandroid backup is 1:1 copy of your entire phone memory. It will even restore your messages, call logs, accounts etc
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So any NANDroid backup is 1:1?
Does that mean that NANDroid also wipes all data?
Searz said:
So any NANDroid backup is 1:1?
Does that mean that NANDroid also wipes all data?
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yes, is 1:1; if you restore a nandroid it will take the same space as the rom you backed up, and no, if you make a nandroid backup, you won't loose any data whatsoever, you still can continue using the rom you backed up, but if you are going to restore a nandroid it's better to make a full wipe, like if you are installing a rom, that's the way i do it...
gabo_lope said:
yes, is 1:1; if you restore a nandroid it will take the same space as the rom you backed up, and no, if you make a nandroid backup, you won't loose any data whatsoever, you still can continue using the rom you backed up, but if you are going to restore a nandroid it's better to make a full wipe, like if you are installing a rom, that's the way i do it...
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No, I didn't mean that you'd lose data when making a backup. That defeats the point of making a backup in the first place, lol.
I was talking about when you restore it. And from what you just wrote I assume that files that aren't overwritten when restoring remain. Similar to how you can flash a ROM "dirty".
Searz said:
No, I didn't mean that you'd lose data when making a backup. That defeats the point of making a backup in the first place, lol.
I was talking about when you restore it. And from what you just wrote I assume that files that aren't overwritten when restoring remain. Similar to how you can flash a ROM "dirty".
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Files will be overwritten. For example, if you make a nandroid, then update an app, when you restore that nandroid, you will restore the previous version of that app.
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upconvert said:
Files will be overwritten. For example, if you make a nandroid, then update an app, when you restore that nandroid, you will restore the previous version of that app.
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Yea, exactly how I thought it worked. Thanks for confirming that for me.
guys i have some questions.........
1) nanadroid backs up all system apps and saved data like messages, phonelogs, contacts, saved settings right ??
2) if I flash a new ROM and then want to go back to the previous state by flashing nandroid backup, does it unroot my device?
3) I backup system apps + data by nandroid backup and SD card apps by Titanium Backup. Is this right ??
Searz said:
No, I didn't mean that you'd lose data when making a backup. That defeats the point of making a backup in the first place, lol.
I was talking about when you restore it. And from what you just wrote I assume that files that aren't overwritten when restoring remain. Similar to how you can flash a ROM "dirty".
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4) If I have a backup of stock ROM then flash a custom ROM like CM, system files will be different in CM. SO when I restore the stock ROM, files that are new to CM will still remain right?
sorry for asking noob questions..........I'll really appreciate it if u guys answer this
Hmm
mike_24_11 said:
Hello,
I have problems restoring from nandroid backup.
Here what I did"
1) Flashed ROM1 and Flashed Kernel1.
2) Installed all My apps which I use.
3) Took Nandroid back-up.
4) Flashed ROM2. Flashed Kernel1.
5) Installed all apps.
6) After 1 days reflashed ROM1 and Kernel1.
7) Tried restoring Nandroid back-up I created 1 day back.
AND IT FAILS!!
Everytime I did a complete wipe of all data and catch and dalvik.
Same happened with CWM and AmonRa
CWM: md5 sums mismatch!!
AmonRa: Oops! Something went wrong!!
Am I mistaken about Nandroid back-up? Am I doing something wrong?
Actually I wanted to restore all my apps and data related to apps. I took whole system and data and everything backed up in the option.
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do you use cwm recovery or twrp idk about twrp but if you are using cwm go to the cwm recovery go down to backup and restore now backup it to sdcard1 (sometimes its shown as backup to external sd card depends on your phone what u use) or just press backup it backups your current rom and your files and now press restore and chose your restore file or if you backup it to your sd card you can do the same thing just chose restore from external sd card and chose your restore file :good: done :good:

[Q] How does a custom recovery works?

Ok, so i'm new to all this stuff about custom recoverys and ROMs. How exactly do they work?
Let's say i make a custom recovery image of my current ROM, wich is stock, does it just backup the OS or my personal files (music, photos, apps, etc.) too?
I'm asking this primarly because i want to upgrade my phone, but to do so i have to flash the stock firmware because i've modified some system files. Wich bring to my other question, flashing ROMs wipe user data? i've read some split responses to this, some people say it does some say it doesn't.
And my final question, let's say i made a backup, wiped my phone flashed stock firmware and updated, now how i recover my data from the
backed up ROM, i mean it is a different version, does it have an option to just restore user data?
Thanks in advance, and sorry if these are too much questions.
it'll back up system, data, boot.img and dalvik cache.
your sd partition isn't backed up, but all the stuff on it will be readable by whatever new rom you put on it (unless you wipe EVERYTHING [not a good idea]).
when you're changing roms/etc, you want to place the rom.zip + gapps.zip (and custom kernel.zip if you're going to use one) on your sd partition. you do this because usb storage mostly doesn't work with custom recoveries as of yet on this device meaning once you've wiped, if you don't have a rom on your sd partition you're mildly screwed in that you'd have to reflash everything from a stock image (meaning you will lose root, all your personal files and whatever rom was on the phone - basically everything goes back to stock bar the bootloader).
e: as for restoring all apps data, use something like titanium backup. i always have a backup on my sd partition of all my current apps (plus wifi passwords, accounts info, sms messages etc to save time/effort when restoring after putting a new rom on). i also always set TB to backup all modified/new data every night at about 3am, then upload the backup to google drive so that if i either brick my phone or accidentally wipe everything, at least i can get back to where i left off.
If you forget to place the ROM zip, and have formatted the device, it is not necessary to flash stock. You use adb side load which is present in every recovery.
in that case i need to remember that for future use - i hardly ever use my pc with my phone now as you can pretty much do anything (update recovery etc) on the phone alone.
that, and i'm on windows 8.1 which afaik doesn't play nicely with fastboot or adb.
twist3d0n3 said:
....and i'm on windows 8.1 which afaik doesn't play nicely with fastboot or adb.
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....i think this is a rumor. Never ever had any problems on W8.1
^ good to know, thanks

Titanium Backup error 3 when flashing "update.zip" from TWRP!

TL;DR: How to fix Titanium Backup error 3 while flashing "update.zip" from TWRP?
I have been using Android for more than five years now seriously and it is a bit funny that I did not know I could restore data to newly flashed ROM.
Previously, I would just wipe system and flash new ROM not touching data partition and that worked just fine.
That is past seems.
I have flashed new ROM which is based on stock Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus ROM so I could get official updates. The problem is my phone lost one fifth of its performance according to benchmark and it experiences random reboots (I hope not while I am typing ?)
All in all, by restoring previous data on new ROM some of the files seem not to be overwritten well on new ROM (possibly application versions not getting downgraded well).
LogCat did not help.
I deleted my data (I have backup of course) and my system works normally so it is a data problem.
That is where Titanium Backup came into play.
I made backup of all user applications and an "update.zip".
When I want to flash "update.zip I get error code 3.
Some say it is due system partition but I formatted it in couple of manners and I am still unable to restore.
Is there any other way to restore applications and its data to new ROM?
I have tried backing up the applications and moving the Titanium Backup folder to SD card and moving it back when I flash new ROM. Backup does not get detected.
Thank you in advance!
dedq said:
TL;DR: How to fix Titanium Backup error 3 while flashing "update.zip" from TWRP?
I have been using Android for more than five years now seriously and it is a bit funny that I did not know I could restore data to newly flashed ROM.
Previously, I would just wipe system and flash new ROM not touching data partition and that worked just fine.
That is past seems.
I have flashed new ROM which is based on stock Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus ROM so I could get official updates. The problem is my phone lost one fifth of its performance according to benchmark and it experiences random reboots (I hope not while I am typing [emoji854])
All in all, by restoring previous data on new ROM some of the files seem not to be overwritten well on new ROM (possibly application versions not getting downgraded well).
LogCat did not help.
I deleted my data (I have backup of course) and my system works normally so it is a data problem.
That is where Titanium Backup came into play.
I made backup of all user applications and an "update.zip".
When I want to flash "update.zip I get error code 3.
Some say it is due system partition but I formatted it in couple of manners and I am still unable to restore.
Is there any other way to restore applications and its data to new ROM?
I have tried backing up the applications and moving the Titanium Backup folder to SD card and moving it back when I flash new ROM. Backup does not get detected.
Thank you in advance!
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When switching ROMs, restoring data from a previous ROM causes issues, especially when the data contains system data and apps from the previous ROM, user apps and their data usually restore fine, but the system stuff doesn't.
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