I posted this in the normal Q & A, didn't get many answers so I wanted to get more specific.
So here's my issue: I have an HTC Sensation 4g (brilliant phone) which is rooted, and custom rom'd with CyanogenMod 9, the Nightly build. I have the latest version installed, and I love everything about it. I have one small issue though. I really miss the old camera from the Sense Rom. Is there any way to get the old camera back? Or is there a camera I can download that will basically replace it?
I loved taking 1080p photos with my phone, but now I feel like the quality and size of the pictures I take have dropped when I switched to ICS CM9. I read up on some mods to get the old camera back but they claim you need Sense installed on your phone. (Which I believe is a memory waster) I got rid of it to move on, but I wish I brought the camera with me.
Any suggestions?
The way sense is built, it's just all put together. You can't take one component and use it alone. You need sense to use the stock camera, no other way. If it was that easy, believe me, you would have heard about it already.
Well I thank you for the input, I've been using Camera360 as a replacement, it works really well. Only problem being it can't record video, so I need to use the stock camera for that.
Would you know of an app that had the "Full screen" style camera that records video + takes pictures? That's all I'm really looking for.
ClipTy said:
Well I thank you for the input, I've been using Camera360 as a replacement, it works really well. Only problem being it can't record video, so I need to use the stock camera for that.
Would you know of an app that had the "Full screen" style camera that records video + takes pictures? That's all I'm really looking for.
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Unfortunately, there aren't any "camcorder" apps in the market. Only camera apps. That takes still pictures with effects and stuff. All you can use is the camcorder that comes with the ROM you're using.
ClipTy said:
Well I thank you for the input, I've been using Camera360 as a replacement, it works really well. Only problem being it can't record video, so I need to use the stock camera for that.
Would you know of an app that had the "Full screen" style camera that records video + takes pictures? That's all I'm really looking for.
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blackwing182 has an aosp based miui rom in the dev section that you may be able to extract a working camera from. I'm not saying it will work, but it may be worth a shot...
uCam is a great camera app and has all the functionality you need. It's free too
Yes! This is what I am looking for! UCam is THE camera app for me! Thanks!
Also give lgcamera a try from the market. Camcorder app is pretty good in it. You can get real aac 128 44khz audio out of it. In my opinion I use that for my camcorder app even on Sense rooms just because the audio doesn't get clipped like the Sense camcorder does.
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While I love CM7 or many other stock android based roms out there, two things on stock android that keeps me going back to Sense-based rom. Rubbish camera app, and so so dialer/contact app.
So this week I have discovered "Go Contact", which is a really decent dialer+contact app that can make me forget about the Sense dialer/contact. But what about camera app?
Stock Android camera app really sucks. Ugly UI with extremely limited control settings, I'm not talking about "vintage looking" filters and all those stuff, but things like ISO settings. As much as I hate Blur or TouchWiz, but almost every phone that I have tried with custom manufacturer UI has camera app that is much better than stock Android's one.
I see that some people have extracted the camera app from Sony Ericsson phones and it seems like it can be installed and used on stock Android framework. I haven't tried that though. My question is, is there any decent camera app on the Market that is comparable to Sense's camera app? That is non-proprietary and not made by manufacturer like Samsung/HTC/Motorola/LG/Sony?
There's a market app called lgcamera that has been recommended to me. Going to try it out today. It also has a camcorder that supports higher bitrate video and in mp4 format instead of 3gp.
Thanks, just tried it out. The UI is a bit rough and needs some work, but it does seem promising. I'll try to do some serious testing with it tomorrow. BTW, does it have anything to do with LG?
No idea, maybe it's based on an lg camera or something..
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Camera360 Ultimate has been my standby on my Desire running CM7. i threw it on my Sensation (running Leedroid) and for some reason, it doesn't go full screen. hopefully when i get CM7 on it, this will be fixed up...
Camera 360 works fullscreen. You will just have to change the picture resolution. It's a great replacement for the sense camera.
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You might check out Vignette it is a paid app but has fantastic reviews. I use it and love it.
Vignette, or FxCamera for that matter, is definitely NOT the type of camera application that I'm looking for. I'm looking for camera apps that give various camera controls like ISO, white balance, exposure, contrast, sharpness, and preferably compression ratio. It would be great if there were apps that provides shutter speed and aperture settings, but I suppose these two settings are harder to implement die to hardware differences.
So far lgCamera seems to be the most promising... Camera 360 has much better UI, but does not offer as many camera controls as lgCamera.
tsekh501 said:
Vignette, or FxCamera for that matter, is definitely NOT the type of camera application that I'm looking for. I'm looking for camera apps that give various camera controls like ISO, white balance, exposure, contrast, sharpness, and preferably compression ratio. It would be great if there were apps that provides shutter speed and aperture settings, but I suppose these two settings are harder to implement die to hardware differences.
So far lgCamera seems to be the most promising... Camera 360 has much better UI, but does not offer as many camera controls as lgCamera.
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lgCamera is promising, but it has it's problems with freezing videos - never quite sure if when you stop recording it will be able to save the video :-( - plus it cannot record in stereo :-(
let´s starting a petition ro getting hipstamativ on android.
it´s nothing than the most awesome camera.app out there.
http://hipstamatic.com/the_app.html
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Camera 360 works fullscreen. You will just have to change the picture resolution. It's a great replacement for the sense camera.
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But with Camer 360 Ultimate this will not work. I changed the resolution and nothing happened. It was still not fitting the screen (no fullscreen).
rogermiet said:
But with Camer 360 Ultimate this will not work. I changed the resolution and nothing happened. It was still not fitting the screen (no fullscreen).
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Same problem here with atrix
The lgcamera app def takes better pictures imo. I was taking pictures back to back and can def see the difference.
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rogermiet said:
But with Camer 360 Ultimate this will not work. I changed the resolution and nothing happened. It was still not fitting the screen (no fullscreen).
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Are you using a downloaded apk? If so then turn compatibility off within spare parts, reboot your phone and try the app again.
The thing i'm looking for is a camera with manual focus not the ****ty touch to focus crap which htc seem to deem acceptable or for that matter, 360, zoom, vignette or any of the others i've tried, no camera seems to offer manual zoom, like a slider or a dial.
Pretty bad when you want to take a pic up close, using macro doesn't always work.
lokhor said:
There's a market app called lgcamera that has been recommended to me. Going to try it out today. It also has a camcorder that supports higher bitrate video and in mp4 format instead of 3gp.
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Great app, thx for the tip!
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Camera 360 works fullscreen. You will just have to change the picture resolution. It's a great replacement for the sense camera.
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I tried to do so, changed resolution to 3264x2448, restarted app, but can't get it to work full screen :/
Same problem here with my Sensation.
With the new roms based on ICS seems that the problem is solved (Camera360 runs full screen).
Two months ago, or more, I sent an email to the developers but they have not done anything.
I'm testing CameraPro that has enough advanced options.
Use MIUI rom... it has a decent camera. Here are a few pics taken with it... the one pic is the same but in night and day.
So, I recently flashed up to Android 4.0.4 from 2.2, and all is well, except I liked the previous system Camera app more. More settings, more digital zoom, et cetera, et cetera. I just want my old camera back. I was happier.
I did some searching, and found out that people think it would be difficult to do (would take some decompiling and such) and still may not work, but as far as I can tell, no one's actually tried.
Does anyone have any more information for me on how to go about getting the Froyo camera on ICS? I can get a hold of the two camera APKs. I just don't know what to do from there. Someone dropped a big hint in this thread, but that's still not enough information for me to go and try this myself if no one has already.
Thanks for your help in advance.
Have you tried any free camera apps from the Play store to see if they might fill your need?
It would be extremely difficult as it has twframework dependencies...something that is not available on any aosp/aokp rom...I'm not saying its impossible but it would take an experienced app and/or moder to get the job done...it would be cool to have a stock like ics rom but unfortunately there is no source for that...only for aosp...I've tried porting stock Samsung Roms in the past but was never really successful I think one time I got one to boot but after days of constant work I didn't get any farther...it was unuseable cause everything would force close...most likely due to missing libs that we don't have available
Also...they are system apks from two different os so compatibility will also play a roll in it
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I was afraid it was as difficult as I've been reading. Sounds like so.
The biggest thing I miss is the zoom. With 4x zoom, even though just digital, I was able to take macro shots of textbooks all the time. I just bought (and returned)... what was it called, Camera Zoom FX. It did give me 6x zoom as promised, but it couldn't autofocus whatsoever.
The camera in this phone is capable of doing what I did most with it, taking photos of texts. But it seems the only app that allowed it to do so was on Froyo.
Do you think there'd be a way to hack the ICS camera app to supply more zoom?
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I was afraid it was as difficult as I've been reading. Sounds like so.
The biggest thing I miss is the zoom. With 4x zoom, even though just digital, I was able to take macro shots of textbooks all the time. I just bought (and returned)... what was it called, Camera Zoom FX. It did give me 6x zoom as promised, but it couldn't autofocus whatsoever.
The camera in this phone is capable of doing what I did most with it, taking photos of texts. But it seems the only app that allowed it to do so was on Froyo.
Do you think there'd be a way to hack the ICS camera app to supply more zoom?
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Sure, there's always a way...how difficult and how to do it is something that I do not know unfortunately...like I said earlier its probably gonna take an expiernced apk developer
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dstarr3 said:
So, I recently flashed up to Android 4.0.4 from 2.2, and all is well, except I liked the previous system Camera app more. More settings, more digital zoom, et cetera, et cetera. I just want my old camera back. I was happier.
I did some searching, and found out that people think it would be difficult to do (would take some decompiling and such) and still may not work, but as far as I can tell, no one's actually tried.
Does anyone have any more information for me on how to go about getting the Froyo camera on ICS? I can get a hold of the two camera APKs. I just don't know what to do from there. Someone dropped a big hint in this thread, but that's still not enough information for me to go and try this myself if no one has already.
Thanks for your help in advance.
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Same thinking regarding porting 4.0.3 Camera as in Karbon A18 to my Micromax A100 Canvas which is having 4.0.4 ICS .The 4.0.3 have good autofocus and facedetection but the 4.0.4 is stock dumb crap. looking forward with you..
Hallo guys,
I read on the CM10 dev thread that the camera in that rom isn't as good as the 4.0 Sense stock camera. Can anybody please explain what exactly is the difference between those two camera apps in terms of picture quality, focusing, shutter, velocity and video recording? And why is it not possible to make the camera as good as it is on the stock rom?
Thanks in advance.
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br3ak
br3ak said:
Hallo guys,
I read on the CM10 dev thread that the camera in that rom isn't as good as the 4.0 Sense stock camera. Can anybody please explain what exactly is the difference between those two camera apps in terms of picture quality, focusing, shutter, velocity and video recording? And why is it not possible to make the camera as good as it is on the stock rom?
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards,
br3ak
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First of all, im not a developer but ive noticed that the cm10 camera loses all the sense software like continuous shutter and shooting photos while recording. Moreover, colors seem to have better contrast and saturation with sense. Can anyone else confirm this?
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I think the sense cam makes really good pictures. I use it for snapshots in holidays aswell. I don't wanna miss the good cam, That's why I hesitate to switch to CM10.
br3ak said:
I think the sense cam makes really good pictures. I use it for snapshots in holidays aswell. I don't wanna miss the good cam, That's why I hesitate to switch to CM10.
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Yeah it's great and if you dont wanna lose the cam it may be best to stay on sense till we get the official jb update
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I'm no developer too, so i could be wrong.
But as far as i know, this phone has a dedicated chip called 'ImageSense' powering the camera.
So far only the Sense camera app is able to fully utilize this chip, and thus having many features which are not available on AOSP rom's camera app.
As for the AOSP roms, the devs are able to get the camera working, but not able to fully utilise the ImageSense chip.
As for porting the Sense camera app to AOSP roms, i think it is close to impossible because of some framework issue which means the sense camera app only can run on sense roms.
Please correct me if im wrong.
From what I remember reading, HTC also didn't supply the drivers to the ImageSense chip, so it couldn't be integrated into AOSP ROMs. Hence, only Sense based ROMs which already have the drivers built in can fully utilise the ImageSense chip.
When ever I take pictures their are black bars on the side of the pictures. Also when I'm in the camera app everything looks like it has a weird filter but when I take the picture they are clear.
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When ever I take pictures their are black bars on the side of the pictures. Also when I'm in the camera app everything looks like it has a weird filter but when I take the picture they are clear.
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Which ROM are you using?
Rom I'm using.
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Which ROM are you using?
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Im using CM 9.1 by scverhagen.
Yeh I have the same rom as you CM9 R8 and to me the image on the screen isnt as clear but when you take a pic it seems the resolution turns out better than you expected. I also noticed that the camera button on the side of your phone doesnt work which is lame I really liked using that for picture taking it was handy but oh well cant be perfect for a rom. If you want also do what I did, I just downloaded other camera and video apps. Way better than the stock app and on the screen they show up as better resolution than the stock app
Yeah, unfortunately the camera apps that come with CM/AOKP ROMs are very lacking on this phone, compared to the stock camera app. There are some third-party apps that do reasonably well, though. I like Camera360.
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When ever I take pictures their are black bars on the side of the pictures. Also when I'm in the camera app everything looks like it has a weird filter but when I take the picture they are clear.
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The black bars on the side is because the phone has a 16x9 screen but the picture is being taken in the 4:3 ratio. It's the same thing as watching an old tv show on a new widescreen tv.
Talking about our camera, has anyone figured out a way to port our camera to Cyanogen? That's the only thing that's stopping me from flashing a Rom, considering I've had this phone for a year.
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The black bars on the side is because the phone has a 16x9 screen but the picture is being taken in the 4:3 ratio. It's the same thing as watching an old tv show on a new widescreen tv.
Talking about our camera, has anyone figured out a way to port our camera to Cyanogen? That's the only thing that's stopping me from flashing a Rom, considering I've had this phone for a year.
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CM will never run a Sense camera because of framework/libs
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Give ICS Camera or Camera JB+ a try. They are definitely fitting replacements for stock and you'll be very happy with results.
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I've tried both apps but have serious issues with those and the included ICS or JB camera apps. So far none have worked to record video.
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1080 does not work on anything but a GB ROM with this phone, make sure that at most 720 is selected...
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Give ICS Camera or Camera JB+ a try. They are definitely fitting replacements for stock and you'll be very happy with results.
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Well I'm running the RemICS_UX port from the HD2. Not bad of a rom. It's over samsungized but I'll find a theme for it. It claims to have the 1080p recording so lets see how that works out.
I personally don't care for all the "features" of the stock CAMERA app since I can always download a 3rd party app that will be on par. I only use night mode, macro and automatic. My main concern is 1080p recording (and that the mic doesn't sound so crappy).
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Well I'm running the RemICS_UX port from the HD2. Not bad of a rom. It's over samsungized but I'll find a theme for it. It claims to have the 1080p recording so lets see how that works out.
I personally don't care for all the "features" of the stock CAMERA app since I can always download a 3rd party app that will be on par. I only use night mode, macro and automatic. My main concern is 1080p recording (and that the mic doesn't sound so crappy).
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I believe the 1080 not working has more to do with HTC Android drivers for the camera, rather than the available choice in the software.
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I believe the 1080 not working has more to do with HTC Android drivers for the camera, rather than the available choice in the software.
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Yeah, trying to record in 1080 makes the button useless. I'm starting to feel that the phone doesn't have real 1080p feature. My last phone was a Huawei Comet/U8150 and I had a very similar issue with the camera. Turned out that the phone had a 2.0 megapixel camera that was made to look like a 3.0 by the stock software. It was a sorry excuse of a camera.
I'm going to have to think about this one. I wonder if we could somehow port or rewrite a code to get 1080p working. Sadly, I know nothing about android development. My main thought was to sit the htc camera apk on top of cyanogen but I've read up that it's not that simple.... which I find weird considering someone has the beats by dre stuff on their mytouch4g slide rom.
Its not to complicated to understand but it is to fix. You see it does have true 1080 recording and it still one of the best cellphone cameras to date. Thing is if you want to run a custom ROM that is not based of the original T-Mobile release then some things may not be the same, the camera being one.
Unless you can get ahold of the proprietary camera drivers or write you're own you will be missing much of what is available. And any app based off the HTC framework will not work of different, such as cyanogen or even aosp.
Even phones that have been nearly torn apart by some super smart people doesn't mean that everything imaginable is possible or at least not easy. Try running sense on a Samsung phone, not too easy. Just saying be happy for what you have unless you know a sneaky backdoor to these issues that no one has thought of yet
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I knew it had to lay within the coding.
I already imagined that it would be hard. Such a shame...
I use Cyanogen and was keen to buy a camera app that supports good panorama. I use my camera a lot
Any help would be appreciated...
Milamber said:
I use Cyanogen and was keen to buy a camera app that supports good panorama. I use my camera a lot
Any help would be appreciated...
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This is sort of a half baked answer because I'm on a stock ROM, but of the many camera apps I've tried on the stock ROM, this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almalence.opencam has the best quality for still shots amoungst those that have panorama support, that I have found so far. I have not tested panorama yet. Its most likely that I picked it up on a free app of the day account.
Another one that does not have panorama but that is very good for still shots, the best one I've seen and is free, is this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lightbox.android.camera which I mention just because the quality is very good and when I've been on non stock builds in the past the camera has been the thing that has always brought me back to stock.
Hopefully the current cyanogen camera is of good quality, and its quite possible that the ones I mentioned front end the stock camera rather than hooking into it at a lower level. Its worth a quick try with the first one though; 15 minutes trial isn't much for a camera app trial but its a better offer than what those other phones have
Agreed ABC is the best camera app I have used photo quality is great.
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