hi, im Geoff.
recently after flashing the stock 4.0.3 ICS firmware, flashing a old bootloader and using my own USB Jig and resetting
the flash counter for kernels, i finally flashed JellyBean 4.1.2 Original Firmware from Samsung. my mobile is Galaxy S2 i9100.
my problem is i recently bought a 16GB micro sd card and inserted it into my phone before i could install any app onto my phone.
then i installed few apps and games from the Google Play Store. then i noticed the external sd card have about 120 mb of used
memory. but i only had about 20 mb of data that i copied onto it that were certain zip files and nothing else. i noticed that when i install
any app, then go to applications and move to SD Card option [which previously copied apps to the internal SD Card/USB storage],
is now actually moving the apps to the External SD Card. So if I unmount the external SD Card or remove it, none of my installed apps appear.
My external SD Card is meant for songs and movies. I want my internal SD Card to store all my apps so that i can remove my External
SD Card when ever i want to and swap it or not use it at all.
I also removed the external SD Card and then installed a new app, then use the move app to SD Card option. I got a error message,
saying something like insufficient memory/space.
my doubt is, apps are trying to be moved to the internal sd card but because they cannot be moved, they are being copied to the
external sd card.
any help is appretiated. btw i have rooted my phone by doing the temporary update of CWM from the stock recovery using the update from
external card method. then i also installed SuperSU. so its rooted and i didn't have to flash a kernel to root.
[update] im gonna provide some new info here:
I have a Android folder in my Internal SD Card [sdcard0]
and ".android_secure" in my External SD Card [extSdCard]
/mnt contains
asec [software files stored on the internal memory/ not internal SD Card or sdcard0]
obb [empty]
secure/asec [software moved using move to sdcard option. these files get copied to the extSdCard and not the sdcard0]
.lfs
and the sdcard and extSdCard links.
If I remove my External SD Card and try to move apps to the Internal SD Card using the move to sdcard button in application settings,
I get the insufficient memory error.
Also when I use the move to SD Card button in Application Settings, it shows the file being moved to the USB Storage [which is supposed to be
the internal sd card or sdcard0], yet it actually is being copied into my external SD Card or extSdCard.
What apps/games?
A lot of app data is stored on SD card, whether the core files and executable are on the internal or not, so that may just be cache stuff etc... One way to check is to remove the SD card then try to run whichever apps, I am willing to bet they still run.
orangekid said:
What apps/games?
A lot of app data is stored on SD card, whether the core files and executable are on the internal or not, so that may just be cache stuff etc... One way to check is to remove the SD card then try to run whichever apps, I am willing to bet they still run.
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i use the move to sd card for most apps/games. apart from 1-2 apps that dont have that option, about 10 apps+games have the option to be moved to the SD Card. And i used that option. But I am positive they got copied to the External SD Card because after I remove the
External SD Card, all the apps disappear.
Also when i then try installing new apps to the phone and then try to move them again [without the external sd card in its slot],
i get the error message of insufficient space/memory.[i have 8GB+ empty space in the internal SD Card]
its really annoying me
TitanHack said:
i use the move to sd card for most apps/games. apart from 1-2 apps that dont have that option, about 10 apps+games have the option to be moved to the SD Card. And i used that option. But I am positive they got copied to the External SD Card because after I remove the
External SD Card, all the apps disappear.
Also when i then try installing new apps to the phone and then try to move them again [without the external sd card in its slot],
i get the error message of insufficient space/memory.[i have 8GB+ empty space in the internal SD Card]
its really annoying me
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Sounds like you have an option enabled in app settings to install all to SD, check your app settings in system settings.
orangekid said:
Sounds like you have an option enabled in app settings to install all to SD, check your app settings in system settings.
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I have gone through everything in settings. I cant find any option where I can actually select weather to install all to SD.
I appretiate you trying to help me out. I hope i find a solution to this problem.
Initailly I felt that it cound be some code causing the apps to move to the external sd card instead of the internal one. But after I got
the error message that I have insufficient space [with the external sd card removed ], even tho I have plenty of space, about 8GB+,
on the internal sd card...so I dont think this is due to any code somewhere pointing to install into the external SD card.
I read somewhere that when the internal sd card is full and no more apps can be installed, the new apps go to the external sd card by default.
Something like that is happening to me, except my internal sd card is fine.
I updated my first post with more info to help diagnose and solve the problem. ty to all trying to help me.
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I would back up the stuff you want from SD and from your ROM (to your computer), then go to recovery, full wipe + cache + dalvik, then format external SD, then reboot into system, then restore what you want.
orangekid said:
I would back up the stuff you want from SD and from your ROM (to your computer), then go to recovery, full wipe + cache + dalvik, then format external SD, then reboot into system, then restore what you want.
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hey man ty for not giving up on me ive not been well and then got so busy recently....
i did what you asked. i even accidently wiped the system folder from cwm recovery. it went into a boot loop or whatever it is called.
i re-flashed the official samsung jellybean firmware 4.1.2 on my i9100. then again cleant delvic + cache +used data. yet the problem
persists.
i noticed that the android folder is being created in the internal sd card. but that android folder has very small amount of the app
files stored on it. the major chunk is in android_secure which is only being stord on the external sdcard.
when i go to mnt folder in root i see two folders named asec and secure.
1."asec" contains apps stored on internal memory [not internal sd card]
and 2. "secure" contains a "asec" folder which stores app stored on the external sdcard.
i believe somewhere the code which should point the android_secure folder to the internal sdcard is pointing to store apps on the
external sd card. perhaps you guys can show me how i can change the folder path of android secure. then it will behave like
default, the way is was meant to behave.
You might need to repartition your system.
I'll see else we can come up with later today, in the mean time, try to maybe use TWRP instead and a different ROM
little more info
orangekid said:
You might need to repartition your system.
I'll see else we can come up with later today, in the mean time, try to maybe use TWRP instead and a different ROM
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when i click move to sdcard in the application settings/menu, it shows USB data filling up.
that USB data is supposed to be my USB drive or my Internal SD Card. And the external sdcard shows up
as 0 KB of data. But actually the files are being copied to the external sdcard and not internal.
now if we think the android system cannot access the internal sdcard, then thats not the matter because
it creates a folder named Android in the internal sdcard and stores the app cache there.
So to me it seems that the android system is confused and actually thinks that the android_secure folder is
mounted on the internal sdcard while it actually is mounted on the external sdcard.
perhaps anyone can link me a guide to move my android_secure folder...
TitanHack said:
perhaps anyone can link me a guide to move my android_secure folder...
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Facing this problem now.
TitanHack, did you found an answer?
I have apps on the SD card that work, however in emulators I can't access the SD card or anywhere I have to go through the directories. Anyone have an idea how to get this working? Is it not formatted correctly?
Blade3D said:
I have apps on the SD card that work, however in emulators I can't access the SD card or anywhere I have to go through the directories. Anyone have an idea how to get this working? Is it not formatted correctly?
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No, everything is fine on your end.
You must be on android version 4.4.2, which block write access on the sd card, which means you can't put things on it with a file explorer or have apps write files to it(save files, random generated data, etc...)
You either have to downgrade to version 4.3 or root it and install sd card fix from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...+play&pcampaignid=APPU_D-xVU4WjEYu0yATe3YGYBQ
You can still write your sd card using a root explorer. Apps that store data on the sdcard can only write to their respective folders is what it is. I think hes talking about how the directories are different because of how mount points are in kitkat now
Access to the SD card isn't blocked. Apps can only write to folders the app owns. Snes9x for example created a folder on the SD card. That is where you have to tell the app to save files to as it is the only folder it has write access to. I figured that out and have no problem saving files to the SD with any of my emulators.
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I noticed this too on my shield. I was going to put some ISOs on my SD card for FPSE to use. When I was in FPSE's config, I was going to try and point it to the SD card but it would only allow me to work with the onboard memory. Would the SD card fix allow me to get this working? I really don't want to store ISOs on the onboard memory or just continually shuffle my active ISO to the internal memory when I want to play that game.
NapalmDawn said:
I noticed this too on my shield. I was going to put some ISOs on my SD card for FPSE to use. When I was in FPSE's config, I was going to try and point it to the SD card but it would only allow me to work with the onboard memory. Would the SD card fix allow me to get this working? I really don't want to store ISOs on the onboard memory or just continually shuffle my active ISO to the internal memory when I want to play that game.
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Yes SDFix: KitKat Writable MicroSD will allow you to move things to the SD card. (write access) Just remember you need to be rooted to use the app.
CDeviant said:
Yes SDFix: KitKat Writable MicroSD will allow you to move things to the SD card. (write access) Just remember you need to be rooted to use the app.
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Thanks for the link. Yes, it's definitely rooted.
I've tried searching for info about this and can't seem to find anything specific. My question is can the S5 be altered so that the internal memory is just memory and not recognized as an SD card? Can it be forced to use the external SD card instead? Will this affect the pre-installed programs? I've had another phone that used the internal memory like this and had custom ROMs that "removed" the internal SD card. I'm not willing to install a custom ROM or recovery right now, but I do have root access.
I've used the edits from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/mod-how-to-add-init-d-write-to-external-t2814733
Even with these edits, certain apps(TubeMate for example) still recognize that you're running KitKat and won't allow writing to the external SD card.
I've tried using the app Mounts2SD to move app data to the external SD, but it doesn't recognize the second partition of the SD card(I've tried Ext4 and Fat32), so either there's a problem with the SD card partitioning or the init.d section of the program isn't working correctly. I've used this app with my previous phone and it seemed to work fine. I appreciate any help or suggestions on this.
After installing CM12 on my android "Xperia V", I've moved some apps to my external card " by using Link2SD". They worked fine but now I want them on the internal storage "sdcard0" so I moved them back to phone storage and removed my ext sd card and moved them to sdcard0, they worked well and everything is fine.
Now when i inserted external sd card to my phone , all apps moved to sdcard0 are disappeared, when i remove my external sd card and turn on my phone again the apps back again. I want to use my external sd card, can you help me?
Note1: When i connect my ext sd card to computer i find android_secure folder.
Note2: When i try moving an app to sd card using normal app manager when the ext sd card is inserted, they move to the ext card not sdcard0. so I move them when ext card not inserted, they moved fine but when i insert my sd card back they disappear as i said.
BenjamineDupont said:
You use app to do this option? Which app did you used?
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I've used "Link2SD" before, now i'm using normal App manager
BenjamineDupont said:
If the situation is like this, I think you can contect the servive of 'link2SD'. I think there maybe a wrong option which caused this ~
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I've re-installed my CM12 ROM, just installed Gapps, installed random app and moved it to sdcard0, inserted my sdcard and the app disappear again! the problem isn't in Link2SD
I installed another ROM "cm12 instead of cm12.1", i think it works fine now
I used to be able to move some apps to the SD card but now I can't is there a solution to this? I am running 8.0.0
Did you try going into Dev settings and click force apps to SD or something like that??
Dont m0ve apps to Sd card, apps work faster when in internal memory