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I have been an avid user of xda over the years and now am not allowed to download or do anything until I post atleast 10 posts... So here XDA all posts will be about why this new pollicy is horrible for the users whodont feel the need to gum up the forums and only want to help test and download. This is 1 of 10
Doesn't suck for me
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How about using all 10 posts to thank the authors of the guides/faqs/wikis that you're no doubt reading to improve your knowledge?
If you 'only' want to help test and download, there is only one way that you can help to test - that is to provide feedback! This means posting. So with all of the test help you are doing for the community, I am sure you will rack up 10 posts in no time
i have liked xda since becoming an android user. +1 to xda for all the talent that is here for us. Thanks devs.
You should be able to download as normal.
It should only be posting in dev threads that is restricted, and nothing else.
Just cause you have to make 10 post doesnt mean XDA sucks. Do you know millions of member come here because of the many break throughs that is been made on XDA?
XDA is a great resource. I read this often but haven't posted much in the past. Now when I do want post in one of the dev forums I can't because of the 10-post minimum. Oh well, that will be rectified soon.
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I have been an avid user of xda over the years and now am not allowed to download or do anything until I post atleast 10 posts... So here XDA all posts will be about why this new pollicy is horrible for the users whodont feel the need to gum up the forums and only want to help test and download. This is 1 of 10
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Actually ..IF.. XDA was to "suck" it would be because of n00bs like you who think XDA owes them something. The 10 post rule is very leniant imo and should be at least 100 or only to set usergroups. newbies have absolutely no business posting in the dev section as everything they ask has been asked 100 times over and also guides on the matter, plus they seem to create topics in dev section instead of Q&A/general sections.
Btw you say you have been a member (or user) for years, yet you are using an account that was created last year so what happened to your last account? Also you only have 6 posts since last year and this was your first? That shows how much you appreciate XDA.
Why dont you do XDA a favor and go away.
This is a great community and I really think that the amount of free knowledge that you get here won't be match in any other forums as to the 10 post limits that is not a big deal just give thanks and help others with your comments on problems that they may need help and soon it will be a thing of the past. I think suck is a little hard but if you know of a better place than XDA please share.
Thanks
At first, I don't feel like posting coz it will show my nubiness. ;-)
After awhile though... ah heck, it's easier for everyone if users gave feedback
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This is a great community and I really think that the amount of free knowledge that you get here won't be match in any other forums as to the 10 post limits that is not a big deal just give thanks and help others with your comments on problems that they may need help and soon it will be a thing of the past. I think suck is a little hard but if you know of a better place than XDA please share.
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We have a "thank" button now which was added to stop all the simple "thanks" posts flooding the place so please dont ask people to leave "thanks" as a reply.
I wanted to start this thread to thank EVERY SINGLE MEMBER here that helps us(sometimes ungrateful) people. Noobs,etc., you have to remember that these guys do not HAVE to be doing this. Some do it for donations,some do it for the pleasure of helping others,and some do it for experience(Me). My knowledge is very limited compared to most here but I try to help when I know what Im talking about lol. Just wanted to point this out especially from what I have been READING in the forums lately (especially the kg4 leak forum ). Feel free to add your thanks and give homage to the individual members that have helped you(OR DONATE),THIS IS NOT A ***** AND MOAN THREAD!!!!!!!!!
EDIT:Too many members to thank individually but you know who you are.
I agree! PLUS 1
I know I'd be lost!
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I too want to Thank all the people who have helped me.
I recently bought a laptop and have been going back into the threads to hit the Thanks button for you all. I wasn't able to do that for a couple of months.
XDA only allows 5 Thanks a day so they may be slow but they are surely coming.
Thank You
We really appreciate your thanks to all members, I hope that includes me As you remember XDA has done a major effort to put a thanks buttons so you can give away all the thanks you want.
On that note, thread closed.
I'm one of those people who browse threads, read, and do my best to learn without asking questions. i have never really had a big reason to post replies to anything. everything i ever need or want for info is always here somewheres on this site.
This is my thank you to all of you developers and senior posters that make XDA great and keeps XDA just a little bit above the rest.
I am genuinely appreciative of everything you all contribute to the android world.
Please keep up the good work.
I totally agree, dude. these folks need some love.
Couldn't agree more!!!
Great work, It is much appreciated.
Agreed. not just in the Gtablet forum but in every forum as well. No one asks these people to do all these wonderful things for our devices... they just do
Thank you devs!
And also thank you XDA staff for all the behind the scenes work you do.
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thank you!!!
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Many thanks
Just sending out thanks for all the work the developers do to make the devices we love to use the best they can be.
i agree. if it wasn't for the people here at xdev and other sites like it, the gtab would have died an ugly death long ago. i have gained so much knowledge just from reading all the questions and posts. i've donated a couple of times and encourage others to do the same if you can. if not, thumbs up and thanks at least lets them know their efforts are appreciated.
Hey everyone!
I have seen some things lately that really are bugging me, and I am hoping that we can fix this fast.
1) If you have a question and you want to post, please do a search in this forum first BEFORE you post!
2) Please EVERYONE, even if you have over a thousand posts and many thanks, READ THE RULES:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=1058
3) If you do a search and find something close enough to your problem, but not quite the same, then please try posting in that thread first and not create another new one.
4) STOP posting and asking about ICS twice a day in a new thread every time.
5) If you ask a question and several people give an answer, attempt it, before you jump back and tell them that thier answer is not what you are looking for. I have seen this all too much lately, and I am getting fed up. Those of us on here that have the knowledge and we give our time freely on here, so show some respect.
6) Don't hijack someone else's thread because there are a lot of people looking at it, and not the one that you posted. This shows a lack of respect to all of us here.
There have been a TON of these things going on in here, and I have seen how many of our more senior users are getting very frustrated just like I am. If you want to keep getting good answers from the knowledgeable people in here, do some research first on your own before making a new post with incorrect information, and please listen and try to think about these things once you are given an answer, and don't just throw it out because it is not what you expected to get.
Also Please thank anyone who gives you an answer to you, even if you don't like it. And stop posting thank you posts, that is what the the thanks button is for.
One last thing, I think everyone should watch this video and hopefully you will get the point. This one is more for people with less than 50 posts, and little contribution.
XDA n00b video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
I may sound silly, but sticky this!
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Someone sticky this please..
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Well put. Thanks for doing this.
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Thanks guys, I am hoping we can just start linking this in all the posts that are like this from now on, so that we don't have to repeat ourselves constantly.
Well said Jim, as always. We have got to get this under control, and hopefully this will help. It's appreciated sir.
Sir, I refer you to Forum Rules, subsection 3;
"Post only using a clear SUBJECT and message". [Editorial usage of caps not found in original]
... Oh come on, it's a joke.
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Jim,
Thanks for taking the time to write this up. Hopefully, things will change. Did I miss something, though? I mean, was there a massive solar flare within the last couple of days thats caused people's brains to get fried? Noobs and members arguing, acting passive aggressively, disrespectfully, and stubbornly when other members or senior members try to steer them in the right direction? The whole attitude of this forum lately has become argumentative and hostile, albeit some of that stems from member's and senior member's frustrations with others not wanting to take a few minutes and a few simple steps in finding out answers on their own before muddying up the forum with new threads on previously discussed topics. It really needs to be stopped, and at the risk of sounding like a total prick, I may start reporting members who fail to adhere to the forum's rules and request a 24 hour suspension if I keep seeing it. We're all grown folk here, we need to act it by respecting others, and playing by the rules...
(Rant over)
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I've been meaning to do this, but I knew it would cause me to go on a rant. Nice post, it should be stickied
Most of us are too lazy to go through the rules, but this is to the point, this should be stickied and even then someone posts a silly question, it should be simply ignored.
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ri4naire said:
Sir, I refer you to Forum Rules, subsection 3;
"Post only using a clear SUBJECT and message". [Editorial usage of caps not found in original]
... Oh come on, it's a joke.
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ROFLMAO..... I actually was crying a little I laughed so hard.... thanks!
I was hoping the title would get some attention.
P.S. anyone that wants this to be a sticky please notify a mod.... I would, but it is my post, so that is kind of a no-no...
So can I flash ICS from China leak to my att atrix 2 LOL HAHA ..... +1 Thanks Jim well put.....
Jim, this is quite nice & I really appreciate when senior members respect Forum Rules by Mike - 2.1 & 2.5 & 10 besides the core stuff of course....I guess if someone is a repeat offender then yeah it would be no fun, Au contraire (i guess i don't get pulled up for using french) it would really make anyone who is not technically adept as Senior members think twice before even wanting to write in, in-spite after doing a search but has a different view or a question. In this case if majority of the members who yet feel the thread or post needs to be closed then yeah I guess MOD needs to be notified. I recall how you gave me some pointers on a much talked about topic & oh yes having a way of words surely helps all concerned.
Jim, I thought it was a shame yesterday when you were working so hard to bring us ICS and some guy called you an A-hole because he felt you should personally walk him through an install. It seems like more and more people think they are special/entitled.
Atrix 2 Wiki ?
Hi there, do we have a page for Atrix 2 where we could find all useful section like root methods, roms etc.
I know we have one for Defy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Motorola_Defy). Would be glad if we could have the same for Atrix 2.
Please let me know if there is already a page. I have searched but couldn't find it.
Edit: The link is there but its empty (http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Motorola_Atrix_II)
Regards,
Vikram
vsoni said:
Hi there, do we have a page for Atrix 2 where we could find all useful section like root methods, roms etc.
I know we have one for Defy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Motorola_Defy). Would be glad if we could have the same for Atrix 2.
Please let me know if there is already a page. I have searched but couldn't find it.
Edit: The link is there but its empty (http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Motorola_Atrix_II)
Regards,
Vikram
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All you have to do is peruse the development section.
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This community here has been strong, informative and helpful to many Hox users. IMO, it has also been used to flame, disrespect, and challenge personal opinions in several threads. I myself have fallen into this pit. I just wanted everyone to read a thread posted in the EVO LTE forums from a person whom not only fell into this pit himself, but recognized it and publically corrected himself to better bring back his community. Im not implying anything against the Hox community, but just hope it can serve as an example, that we stand stronger united and can/will accomplish much more as individual minds coming together. Not individuals thinking a mind. Please click the link below, to read how this xda member noted his closed mindness, and forfeited it for the good of his community.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29136185
With this said, there are great feats still to be accomplished for the Hox devices. Let's all put our 2 cents in where we can, put away the other 98, and make these feats into accomplishments!!
............My EVO Ways...........
(You Can S-Off For All I Care)
Thank you for acknowledging that we can all do better here. We many times don't have the patience to help out others. I know I don't post all the time in the forums but I read alot and find that people want to attack and take offence, putting everyone out. I like coming here and hope we can continue the great development and improving our devices.
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Agreed. I was a victim of that for my very first post. I was GRILLED for not searching first when I actually did. Beings I didn't know my way around the threads and it was my 3 day old first android phone. Ppl are looking to learn, receive help, and also give help when able to. Nobody comes here asking to be bashed on or fussed at like a kid. Ill quote all of my reachers when i was in school, "theres no stupid question as long as you're thirsting for knowledge" Let's stick together and help each other out to make it a more enjoyable experience in the forums and also in your android device!!
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You also have to understand the flip side of the coin. People come here and start threads to ask the same basic questions that people have answered 500 times already. Questions that would have been easily answered in 10 seconds had they done a search first. Its frustrating.
Yes, there are no stupid questions. Yes we were all noobs at one point. Part of learning is figuring basic out things yourself by doing some research though.
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You also have to understand the flip side of the coin. People come here and start threads to ask the same basic questions that people have answered 500 times already. Questions that would have been easily answered in 10 seconds had they done a search first. Its frustrating.
Yes, there are no stupid questions. Yes we were all noobs at one point. Part of learning is figuring basic out things yourself by doing some research though.
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Agreed 100%. There are a million threads that could have been avoided simply by SEARCHING. If you can navigate to XDA using your browser, you have the skills necessary to use the search function. People are just lazy and don't want to do any reading, they'd rather someone just respond with an answer. Super annoying, my .02.
GibMcFragger said:
You also have to understand the flip side of the coin. People come here and start threads to ask the same basic questions that people have answered 500 times already. Questions that would have been easily answered in 10 seconds had they done a search first. Its frustrating.
Yes, there are no stupid questions. Yes we were all noobs at one point. Part of learning is figuring basic out things yourself by doing some research though.
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This. It is painfully evident when people don't search even though they say they do when and that's when I'll come in with a snarky post. You can't tell me you searched for the method to root 1.85 when there is a STICKY with the procedure in development, and 4 other threads on the first two pages of Q+A asking the same question, with people providing answers. Sorry, but I don't buy it. If you want me to put forth some effort into helping you, you must put forth the effort to help yourself first.
That all said, if it shows that you did do some research but still need some clarification on a few things, you betcha I will be willing to help to the best of my ability. I may be an asshole sometimes, but I am actually a really nice guy and I do enjoy helping people out. Just don't start our e-relationship on a lie ("I searched, I swear!") and we'll get along famously.
Training noobs, snarky fun posts, they help teach and make xda a fun place. Mostly, I'm referring to the heated debates, and hateful posts that have crippled some of our unreplacable threads and formed hatefulness between members. By all means, I love when an opportunity arises for me to get a few people to laugh, please, keep them coming when you see fit
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I agree that there are times where a lot of us get really upset and lose our cool. And that we should try to keep that to a minimum.
But this isn't exactly a forum for extremely basic questions at the same time, even though we all have some from time to time, there are tons of other forums like that though. And some people are obviously trolling too ("HTC done it wrong" guy, lol....)
The only thing that ticks me off about this community are the "should I get a galaxy s3" threads. No one cares. This is an enthusiast forum for the HOX. If you want to talk gs3 go over there.
If this was a BMW enthusiast forum you would be flamed to hell if you wrote a topic like "should I switch to a mustang?".
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XDA was a great place even when I joined during the GS1 era. However, it slowly turned into turned to crap with the success Android garnered though. Aside from the flame bait or post-purchase rationalization threads, the general user of this forum feels the developers OWE it to the users to make their devices better, for free. Not even joking. There were some people who expressed that in their posts in the Nexus S forums. Then there are the people who don't even bother to read instructions or stickies and when they brick their device they blame the developers. I like to help people as much as the next guy once being a noob myself, but it ain't fun when I answer the same question I know I answered last week.
Why don't we create a thread specifically for noobs,beginners in android,people who came from iphone and people that are lost in what to do..and put it in Dev thread..entitled "Lost,Confused and Dont know what to Do"..since I think everyone would go to the Dev Thread first before reading the General and Q&A thread..something like Help Support..where anybody can help...
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arnelolavides said:
Why don't we create a thread specifically for noobs,beginners in android,people who came from iphone and people that are lost in what to do..and put it in Dev thread..entitled "Lost,Confused and Dont know what to Do"..since I think everyone would go to the Dev Thread first before reading the General and Q&A thread..something like Help Support..where anybody can help...
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Honestly I think its a great idea, won't stop everyone from posting in the wrong place but we could direct them to that thread. I also think that thread, if created should have a resource bible as well.... great idea!!
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rpomponio said:
Honestly I think its a great idea, won't stop everyone from posting in the wrong place but we could direct them to that thread. I also think that thread, if created should have a resource bible as well.... great idea!!
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Yes..thats what im thinking too..i myself did go to the Dev thread when i had my first Android Galaxy Spica..never bothered to look in the Q&A or General Section..and like most newbies also had been kicked and slap with rude words from other members..
So Mods reading this..please consider sumthing like this..it would be beneficial to the whole community..again..thanks for all the talent in this community.:thumbup:
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arnelolavides said:
Why don't we create a thread specifically for noobs,beginners in android,people who came from iphone and people that are lost in what to do..and put it in Dev thread..entitled "Lost,Confused and Dont know what to Do"..since I think everyone would go to the Dev Thread first before reading the General and Q&A thread..something like Help Support..where anybody can help...
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Not going to help the numerous people who don't search, don't read, and don't even look at the thread titles before posting their problems.
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Not going to help the numerous people who don't search, don't read, and don't even look at the thread titles before posting their problems.
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But a link to the helpful thread could be provided and the thread the noob started could be closed. I'm in support of it.
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But a link to the helpful thread could be provided and the thread the noob started could be closed. I'm in support of it.
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These are my same thoughts.
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Gunnyman, what are u doin', floating
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arnelolavides said:
Why don't we create a thread specifically for noobs,beginners in android,people who came from iphone and people that are lost in what to do..and put it in Dev thread..entitled "Lost,Confused and Dont know what to Do"..since I think everyone would go to the Dev Thread first before reading the General and Q&A thread..something like Help Support..where anybody can help...
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People will say "No one ever answers anything there" Same thing happens with the Q&A now as well...
Seriously though, what pushed my buttons was the whole HOX vs whatever. watch a damn dogfight or go to cnet... lol
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Not going to help the numerous people who don't search, don't read, and don't even look at the thread titles before posting their problems.
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Agreed. plus we do have quite a few comprehensive noobs guides already in place, but you need to be willing to read...
How many times do you see a question asked that was answered just a few posts prior within the same thread.
I applaud the vast majority of devs we have here for their patience for not getting pissed off when their thread gets completely derailed...
I'm by no means an expert but I do a lot of reading and I learn a lot of things, for the vast majority it's all here...
Just read...
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18th.abn said:
Gunnyman, what are u doin', floating
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looking for his lost IMEI on sgs3 :laugh:
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Agreed. plus we do have quite a few comprehensive noobs guides already in place, but you need to be willing to read...
How many times do you see a question asked that was answered just a few posts prior within the same thread.
I applaud the vast majority of devs we have here for their patience for not getting pissed off when their thread gets completely derailed...
I'm by no means an expert but I do a lot of reading and I learn a lot of things, for the vast majority it's all here...
Just read...
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looking for his lost IMEI on sgs3 :laugh:
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My imei is just fine. Thanks