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Hasty (Ubuntu 8.04 'Hardy Heron') compatible with ARMv6 - Can it be done on the G1?

I know we have successfully been able to install debian on our phones, has anyone tried to install hasty (basically a build of Ubuntu 8.04 'Hardy Heron')? Although ubuntu is releasing an ARM version for ARMv7 processors in April 2009, our G1's would be left out because it is ARMv6.
However, there's a version of hasty compatible with our ARM 11 Family (ARMv6) (http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/families/ARM11Family.html) processor, found here:
http://mojo.handhelds.org/hasty-armv6el-vfp
I wouldn't even know where to begin with installing this, so if someone could enlighten us on how to do so, it would be greatly appreciated.

why?
ubuntu is just debian with some user friendly tweaks, but none of those would apply to a cellphone. so it would basically be exactly the same as debian.

davr said:
why?
ubuntu is just debian with some user friendly tweaks, but none of those would apply to a cellphone. so it would basically be exactly the same as debian.
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We've gone as far as installing debian, why not ubuntu? Personally I would like to see if any of those tweaks would work on my G1. I understand there are similarities, and that ubuntu is based off of debian, but it wouldn't hurt to install it as opposed to debian would it?

davr said:
why?
ubuntu is just debian with some user friendly tweaks, but none of those would apply to a cellphone. so it would basically be exactly the same as debian.
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Why not?

davr said:
why?
ubuntu is just debian with some user friendly tweaks, but none of those would apply to a cellphone. so it would basically be exactly the same as debian.
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Because we can? Why does anybody do anything in the tech community?

I would like to install ubuntu too.

Why not just use http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile, when it decomes workable? Or wait for vmware mobile edition.

card13 said:
Why not just use http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile, when it decomes workable? Or wait for vmware mobile edition.
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It's not being planned for ARMv6 (which the G1 has), only ARMv7

So has anyone given hasty a try yet? =]

Android parts in HP Pre 3 kernel

Hello everybody,
I was just looking around the Pre 3 kernel sources to find something useful about turning on the flash LED to make a torch when I found some lines related to Android.
Maybe HP just used Android sources to make their kernel or maybe this kernel is ready to start Android ?
What do you think about that ?
Code:
# Android
#
CONFIG_ANDROID=y
CONFIG_ANDROID_BINDER_IPC=y
CONFIG_ANDROID_LOGGER=y
CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE_ENABLE_VERBOSE=y
# CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE_ERROR_CORRECTION is not set
# CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE_EARLY_INIT is not set
CONFIG_ANDROID_TIMED_OUTPUT=y
CONFIG_ANDROID_TIMED_GPIO=y
CONFIG_ANDROID_LOW_MEMORY_KILLER=y

legsim said:
Hello everybody,
I was just looking around the Pre 3 kernel sources to find something useful about turning on the flash LED to make a torch when I found some lines related to Android.
Maybe HP just used Android sources to make their kernel or maybe this kernel is ready to start Android ?
What do you think about that ?
Code:
# Android
#
CONFIG_ANDROID=y
CONFIG_ANDROID_BINDER_IPC=y
CONFIG_ANDROID_LOGGER=y
CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE_ENABLE_VERBOSE=y
# CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE_ERROR_CORRECTION is not set
# CONFIG_ANDROID_RAM_CONSOLE_EARLY_INIT is not set
CONFIG_ANDROID_TIMED_OUTPUT=y
CONFIG_ANDROID_TIMED_GPIO=y
CONFIG_ANDROID_LOW_MEMORY_KILLER=y
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Qualcomm's reference kernel for that processor is an Android kernel. So all devices based on that processor start with an Android kernel and work from there.
-- Rod

rwhitby said:
Qualcomm's reference kernel for that processor is an Android kernel. So all devices based on that processor start with an Android kernel and work from there.
-- Rod
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so,is it possible to run android on hp pre 3?

Yes, both the Pre3 and touchpad were developed with android due to mismatch in speed between hardware teams and webOS teams. I.e. webOS teams were way too slow.

pablo_max said:
Yes, both the Pre3 and touchpad were developed with android due to mismatch in speed between hardware teams and webOS teams. I.e. webOS teams were way too slow.
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On what authority do you make this statement? Do you work in either of those teams? You'll need some facts to back up a bold, unprovable statement like that.
-- Rod

pablo_max said:
Yes, both the Pre3 and touchpad were developed with android due to mismatch in speed between hardware teams and webOS teams. I.e. webOS teams were way too slow.
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Seriously ? It sounds a little weird, I thought that the Pre 3 was developed with WebOS 2.1.
Anyway, it still would be great to be able to dual-boot Android or at least make Android apps working, maybe within a chroot like there is with the Touchpad.
By the way, would the Touchpad Android IPK work on Pre 3 ? Is there any reason I shouldn't try ?

legsim said:
Seriously ? It sounds a little weird, I thought that the Pre 3 was developed with WebOS 2.1.
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Without further proof, you should treat that post as trolling. There is no Android available from HP for the Pre 3.
Anyway, it still would be great to be able to dual-boot Android or at least make Android apps working, maybe within a chroot like there is with the Touchpad.
By the way, would the Touchpad Android IPK work on Pre 3 ? Is there any reason I shouldn't try ?
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You should read the threads on PreCentral where the damage that package does to your kernel installation is outlined. Folks are having to doctor their devices to recover full capability again.
-- Rod

I tried to install the IPK but it didn't want to install the modified kernel.
So I did it manually and now the Pre 3 won't boot anymore.
It's time for doctoring in recovery mode

legsim said:
I tried to install the IPK but it didn't want to install the modified kernel.
So I did it manually and now the Pre 3 won't boot anymore.
It's time for doctoring in recovery mode
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that's the attitude.
gratz

What phones can you install Fedora on?

Hi,
Besides PinePhone what other mobile phones are there available where I can install Fedora instead of android rom's?
I heard someone did it with Volla Phone + Fedora. However, I can't seem to find anything on installing Fedora on mobile phones. I can find Ubuntu Touch website where they detail whats supported, that's cool and all. But how to install it on mobiles for other linux distros such as Fedora? surely you can compile some kernel and install other linux distros like Fedora right?
Please help me understand.

Devices - postmarketOS
wiki.postmarketos.org
pmOS may interest you. I have never seen Fedora on a phone. pmOS is based on Alpine, but anything supported by it has a better chance of running Fedora than anything not supported by it. Some of these devices have mainline kernel support, which helps a lot with getting stuff running on it.

Is it possible to use a recent Kernel in tab2?

I was wondering if is it possible to use a recent kernel in tab2.
There is a Linux system (Maemo Leste, based on Devuan (Debian without systemd)) that runs in a Motorola Droid 4, that uses a recent version of the Linux Kernel (5.11) and has the same CPU and GPU. https://leste.maemo.org/Motorola_Droid_4
Would it work in tab2?
(sorry for my english).

gu_1_ said:
I was wondering if is it possible to use a recent kernel in tab2.
There is a Linux system (Maemo Leste, based on Devuan (Debian without systemd)) that runs in a Motorola Droid 4, that uses a recent version of the Linux Kernel (5.11) and has the same CPU and GPU. https://leste.maemo.org/Motorola_Droid_4
Would it work in tab2?
(sorry for my english).
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This rom here uses a 3.4 kernel which is currently the latest one used on Tab 2
[ROM][AOSP][8.1 Oreo] Unlegacy Android (Unofficial)
Warranties: THIS GUIDE COMES WITH NO WARRANTY. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE OF BREAKING YOUR PRECIOUS TABLET. PLEASE BACKUP YOUR DATA BEFORE CONTINUING, AS THIS GUIDE WILL WIPE YOUR DATA. Also, this guide assumes you have the following requirements...
forum.xda-developers.com
Why don't you try building a rom with 5.11 one ?? As you can see in the thread above, camera doesn't work due to 3.4 kernel and also wifi was an issue earlier but it is fixed now. Something or the other might not work but maybe the rom would boot up atleast !

gu_1_ said:
I was wondering if is it possible to use a recent kernel in tab2.
There is a Linux system (Maemo Leste, based on Devuan (Debian without systemd)) that runs in a Motorola Droid 4, that uses a recent version of the Linux Kernel (5.11) and has the same CPU and GPU. https://leste.maemo.org/Motorola_Droid_4
Would it work in tab2?
(sorry for my english).
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Actually yes, we can use the 5.12 kernel i worked on but not with android, with Alpine Linux, please check https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...linux-on-samsung-galaxy-tab-2-unified.4171483 (5.12 kernel only for 7 inch tablets, the 10 inch ones have different display panel, if you have a 10 inch one want to help with making it usable with 5.12 kernel, I'll try)

Mighty said:
Actually yes, we can use the 5.12 kernel i worked on but not with android, with Alpine Linux, please check https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...linux-on-samsung-galaxy-tab-2-unified.4171483 (5.12 kernel only for 7 inch tablets, the 10 inch ones have different display panel, if you have a 10 inch one want to help with making it usable with 5.12 kernel, I'll try)
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Update its 5.15 now https://gitlab.com/postmarketOS/pmaports/-/merge_requests/2526

TheDoctor46 said:
This rom here uses a 3.4 kernel which is currently the latest one used on Tab 2
[ROM][AOSP][8.1 Oreo] Unlegacy Android (Unofficial)
Warranties: THIS GUIDE COMES WITH NO WARRANTY. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE OF BREAKING YOUR PRECIOUS TABLET. PLEASE BACKUP YOUR DATA BEFORE CONTINUING, AS THIS GUIDE WILL WIPE YOUR DATA. Also, this guide assumes you have the following requirements...
forum.xda-developers.com
Why don't you try building a rom with 5.11 one ?? As you can see in the thread above, camera doesn't work due to 3.4 kernel and also wifi was an issue earlier but it is fixed now. Something or the other might not work but maybe the rom would boot up atleast !
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Well as far as Android is concerned, in the future, we might get Android 11 with the 5.4 android common kernel. That won't be a easy job to make though.
To port to mainline (5.15 kernel or newer) is kinda possible but it requires even harder work, indicated by the fact that there is only a finger-countable few of those get to this stage, and even if you get it, some features won't work.

LR7875 said:
Well as far as Android is concerned, in the future, we might get Android 11 with the 5.4 android common kernel. That won't be a easy job to make though.
To port to mainline (5.15 kernel or newer) is kinda possible but it requires even harder work, indicated by the fact that there is only a finger-countable few of those get to this stage, and even if you get it, some features won't work.
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Making android work with mainline is going to be a task! For now we are running mainline 5.15 with PostMarketOS

Mighty said:
Making android work with mainline is going to be a task! For now we are running mainline 5.15 with PostMarketOS
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Well that is good news, hope you reach success!
If that come true it will be a legend!

How to install LineageOS on Limbo ARM emulator?

Hello, how to install LineageOS on Limbo ARM emulator?
I want to do some development work that needs rooted Android system compiled with ARM instruction sets. I have used several Android emulators on Android, but they all have various problems.
I don't want to use Android x86, because it is incompatible with ARM apps and will cause great performance loss.
I do not intend to root my smartphone, because I do not want to expose my smartphone to danger.

try finding a iso for it!
or tutorial for it?

I have searched for it in the web, but there are no ISOs or tutorials for it.

there is lineage os 14.1 x86 builds. or other android versions too! but i dont think they will work on the arm version. i used to use boschs back in the day with my old tab. i havent used emulators since. you could give it a try. just search android x86 on google. i remember there used to be versions of limbo that emulated x86. anywho hope it works

Running a custom Android OS ( here: Lineage OS ) in an Android based emulator like Limbo requires you need to install an Android version with a KVM enabled Kernel.

xXx yYy said:
Running Lineage OS ( a custom Android OS ) in an Android based emulator?
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it maybe possible since android x86 iso's are availble. including lineage os 14.1

Perhaps the LineageOS development team should make installers for Limbo ARM or other ARM emulators.

DevScholar said:
Perhaps the LineageOS development team should make installers for Limbo ARM or other ARM emulators.
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i dont know. maybe you could try gsi's? using dsu sideloader? go search it up. the sucess rate on locked bootloaders and non rooted devices is very low but its worth a try.
IF YOU VOID YOUR WARRANTY SOMEHOW dont blame me please... alr got alot going on in my life rn

Thank you for your help. It seems that I have to abandon this idea currently.
By the way, Limbo x86 emulator runs as slow as a PC in 1995 on my device. (I'm using MediaTek Dimensity 810 @ 2.4 GHz with 8GB RAM.)

DevScholar said:
Thank you for your help. It seems that I have to abandon this idea currently.
By the way, Limbo x86 emulator runs as slow as a PC in 1995 on my device. (I'm using MediaTek Dimensity 810 with 8GB RAM.)
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yeah its super slow. better abandon this. and lineage os 14.1 native bridge never worked for me. meaning that some apps wont work at all e.g. some games and will crash.

According to my research, the performance of a virtual machine in Limbo x86 emulator is equivalent to about 4.12% of the physical ARM smartphone's performance.
I said that:"I have used several Android emulators on Android.", these emulators don't have performance problems on my smartphone. These emulators are:
VMOS / VMOS Pro - You need to pay to become a member to use rooted virtual machines. Its theory is similar to Anbox.(Off Topic: Perhaps the Anbox development team can make an installer for Android.)
VPhoneGAGA - You need to pay to become a member or watch advertisements to use rooted virtual machines. Its virtual machines contains advertisements unless you are a member. The theory of this software is to rewrite linux's C functions.
F1 VM / X8 Sandbox- You need to pay to become a member to use rooted virtual machines.
V8 Box - It's free and ad-free. It provides rooted virtual machines for free. But at present, this software only supports Android 5.1. This software is only available in Chinese.