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Reading all the reviews the one thing most of them take issue with is the camera on the Moto X. There is something very common between them, the inconsistency from picture to picture. Most say the Moto X is capable of taking good pictures but you need to put up with several bad ones as well. If you take the info from the reviews it's not a "Camera" issue as much as a "Software" issue. The timing of the auto focus to the shutter seems off as well as possibly the color & sharpness of the pictures.
I own a Nexus 4 currently and it doesn't take the greatest pictures either with the AOSP camera. One thing I have noticed is Cyanogenmod's Focal camera app takes better pictures. I tried taking pictures with AOSP, Focal and ProCapture app and comparing them. While I am not using the paid version of ProCapture the pictures are sharper and the color is spot on vs AOSP and Focal, even though ProCapture is taking 3.2mp shots and AOSP/Focal are taking 8.0mp pictures.
Link to ProCapture(Free) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neaststudios.procapture.free&hl=en
I know someone using ProCapture with their new Droid Maxx and says it has made a big difference in the image quality. This should obviously translate over to the Moto X as well. The full version is a few bucks and if someone is willing to purchase it and post their results for everyone that could help lots of X owners out.
Here are three pictures I took today and you can see how ProCapture's are sharper and the color is not washed out. First picture is AOSP, second Focal and last one is ProCapture.
I like the ProCapture app. I have the premium version. I will have to take some test shots to compare the two. However, I cannot find anyway of changing which app is launched when you use the twist gesture to open the camera. Every time I do it, it opens the stock camera. I have made the ProCapture app the default when swiping from the lockscreen but that does not apply to the gesture. Any ideas?
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edit: One thing I wish the ProCapture had was an HDR setting.
HDR setting is in Focus/Scene option menu(second down on the left).
I'm very interested in seeing side by side shots you take. If you can take a variety of shots, in bright sunlight, the sky(good for color comparisons), low light, indoors, close ups, action shots, etc with both camera's and post them here.
As far as the gesture opening the app that's something you can't probably change with the stock software. Once developers start making rom's & mods for the Moto X I'm sure the gesture will be able to be reassigned to another app.
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I like the ProCapture app. I have the premium version. I will have to take some test shots to compare the two. However, I cannot find anyway of changing which app is launched when you use the twist gesture to open the camera. Every time I do it, it opens the stock camera. I have made the ProCapture app the default when swiping from the lockscreen but that does not apply to the gesture. Any ideas?
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edit: One thing I wish the ProCapture had was an HDR setting.
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HDR setting is in Focus/Scene option menu(second down on the left).
I'm very interested in seeing side by side shots you take. If you can take a variety of shots, in bright sunlight, the sky(good for color comparisons), low light, indoors, close ups, action shots, etc with both camera's and post them here.
As far as the gesture opening the app that's something you can't probably change with the stock software. Once developers start making rom's & mods for the Moto X I'm sure the gesture will be able to be reassigned to another app.
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That's a lot of pictures. I will see what I can do.
As for the HDR setting, is it called something other than HDR? Cause it is not listed under the Focus/Scene option. I have the following:
Focus > Auto, Continuous, Infinity
Scene > Auto, Action, Portrait, Landscape, Night, Night portrait, Theatre, Beach, Snow, Sports, Sunset, Steady photo, Fireworks, Party, Candlelight, Backlight
Color effect > None, Mono, Sepia, Negative, Solarize, Posterize, Aqua, Blackboard, Whiteboard
Any comparison pictures you can take will be helpful for everyone. It can show its a software issue that can be fixed.
I'm using the free version of ProCapture, here is the HDR setting.
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Any comparison pictures you can take will be helpful for everyone. It can show its a software issue that can be fixed.
I'm using the free version of ProCapture, here is the HDR setting.
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Looking forward to the results... :good:
Xious1 or someone else give ProCapture a try and post pictures taken with it and the stock camera. I don't have a Moto X yet so I just know how much of a difference it has made on my Nexus 4 and my wife's Razr i.
Beamed from my Nexus 4
Can I squeeze zhe phone to activate this like the original app?
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I'm really not so sure I see much of a difference. Here's my samples:
Moto X Stock Camera:
Moto X ProCapture Free:
Moto X Focal:
Olympus E-PL1 with M.Zuiko 17mm F2.8 lens:
iPhone 5:
Nexus 4 Stock Camera:
Nexus 7 (2013) Stock Camera:
This is done with zero tweaking at all, straight out of the cameras. Even the mediocre Nexus 4 camera makes the Moto X look bad.
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I'm really not so sure I see much of a difference. Here's my samples:
Moto X Stock Camera:
Moto X ProCapture Free:
Moto X Focal:
Olympus E-PL1 with M.Zuiko 17mm F2.8 lens:
iPhone 5:
Nexus 4 Stock Camera:
Nexus 7 (2013) Stock Camera:
This is done with zero tweaking at all, straight out of the cameras. Even the mediocre Nexus 4 camera makes the Moto X look bad.
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I understand testing the app without tweaking, but the reason I did a search for moto x & Procapture was simply, the X doesn't give users the ability to access settings like white balance, exposure, etc. I'm currently on an S3, and was set on either an X or a Droid Maxx, but the camera quality was holding me back. To get decent pics on my S3 I have to play with those settings, but with the stock Moto camera software, I wouldn't have that option. Now if it's possible to get rid of the purple tint that some reviewers are seeing, or give it better contrast, I wouldn't be so apprehensive. But I thought the point of getting an app like that was so you could tweak the settings to get it closer to the better cameras out there.
ProCapture allows many more options to tweak your shots. I used backlight mode this weekend to take pics were my daughter was standing in front of a large glass wall of windows with the sun coming through. With out back light mode you could hardly see her, with it on she popped to the front of the image. This is on my Nexus 4.
Now if you haven't heard Moto is pushing out an update to T-Mobile users right now that fixes the camera issues. The pictures side by side show a dramatic change in quality.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/23/moto-x-camera-update-new-vs-old
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7353/moto-x-update-dramatically-improves-camera-quality
Downside is can't use the cool wrist flick feature thing.
i agree, procapture is a very good camera, expecially to take panorama pics.
but in my opinion the big limit of this app is when you play with options and effect, because, while stock's camera reset values when you launch the app, procapture doesn't do that, but only for exposure (if you check it in settings).
so if you play with values when you launch in another time the app you have to reset all the values by yourself. i sent an email to the dev to make the app reset values when you lanch it.
I used Procapture far a while and was very pleased with it. Had you given FV-5 Camera try? I use it for now and for now i stay with it as it makes for me the best images.
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I used Procapture far a while and was very pleased with it. Had you given FV-5 Camera try? I use it for now and for now i stay with it as it makes for me the best images.
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I'll try it!
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I used Procapture far a while and was very pleased with it. Had you given FV-5 Camera try? I use it for now and for now i stay with it as it makes for me the best images.
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Camera FV-5 doesnt adjust focus/Exposure!
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Camera FV-5 doesnt adjust focus/Exposure!
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It has Autofocus and Autoexposure. You can also do that manulay.
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Camera FV-5 doesnt adjust focus/Exposure!
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You can do a separate exposure and focus though. I used to enjoy ProCamera but I think I can produce better shots with Camera FV-5.
Wow I just saw this post. I was about to give up on my Moto X camera and call it a loss for indoor photos.
Camera FV-5 changed that. This thing is great. Once you read through the manual to figure out adjustments, this thing takes great photos.
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Wow I just saw this post. I was about to give up on my Moto X camera and call it a loss for indoor photos.
Camera FV-5 changed that. This thing is great. Once you read through the manual to figure out adjustments, this thing takes great photos.
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yes i use it since my RAZR. You have to read the manual (pdf) to get knowledge of the full potential of the app. The developer is releasing in some weeks a beta app for taking videos
by the way, there was a big bug when taking photos in portrait with Moto X. The images freezes. This was solved in the last update.
I don't like the camera of XL. The UI doesn't look attractive, and the picture quality is also average. The colors look dull and the autofocus doesn't work even when the square turns blue.
So my question is can I improve my camera quality by using some other camera app, like samsung's. I know it's hardware but I believe that software plays an equal part.
plus will there be any difference if I use a custom rom that is unofficial. Like all the kitkat roms for XL.
And please don't suggest to change some settings. They hardly make an impact.
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I don't like the camera of XL. The UI doesn't look attractive, and the picture quality is also average. The colors look dull and the autofocus doesn't work even when the square turns blue.
So my question is can I improve my camera quality by using some other camera app, like samsung's. I know it's hardware but I believe that software plays an equal part.
plus will there be any difference if I use a custom rom that is unofficial. Like all the kitkat roms for XL.
And please don't suggest to change some settings. They hardly make an impact.
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Yes, it's software issue. You can check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-l/general/xperia-l-post-best-camera-shots-t2333949/page28..we have some example and discussion about it..
The focus is horrible for stock..
You can install 3rd party paid app call snapcam or kitkat camera that support jb..
okay
so if it's the software, isn't it possible to port cameras of other devices to XL alongwith their libs or algorithms.
Because I believe that third party cameras will use the same libs and therefore same results.
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so if it's the software, isn't it possible to port cameras of other devices to XL alongwith their libs or algorithms.
Because I believe that third party cameras will use the same libs and therefore same results.
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It depend on what camera you're installed..some of them have their own lib that doesn't intergrated with sony's lib..
You just have to checked them
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It depend on what camera you're installed..some of them have their own lib that doesn't intergrated with sony's lib..
You just have to checked them
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Anyone used other cameras with success?
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Anyone used other cameras with success?
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Use snap camera. It's better than stock and there's no autofocus issue. You can manually change some settings to get the perfect picture.
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Use snap camera. It's better than stock and there's no autofocus issue. You can manually change some settings to get the perfect picture.
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Hello I checked snap camera it really looks the most customizable camera I've tried
The focus seams to work fine but images still grainy, however I must experiment more with settings
I'll wanted to upload some comparison photos but forum has a small image limit
I found this quite useful too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-l/themes-apps/superior-auto-mode-xperia-lcamera-t2597255
And in another post someone posted some image quality improvements
Does this apply to the latest official update or only to the older firmware mentioned?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-l/general/improve-camera-quality-sony-xperia-l-t2683512
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Hello I checked snap camera it really looks the most customizable camera I've tried
The focus seams to work fine but images still grainy, however I must experiment more with settings
I'll wanted to upload some comparison photos but forum has a small image limit
I found this quite useful too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-l/themes-apps/superior-auto-mode-xperia-lcamera-t2597255
And in another post someone posted some image quality improvements
Does this apply to the latest official update or only to the older firmware mentioned?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-l/general/improve-camera-quality-sony-xperia-l-t2683512
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The above threads are useful for stock camera only. If you are planning to use the snap camera then no need for these.
Also the noise is a hardware issue too and not just software. I have tried the same app on two different devices and thus got different results.
Of course you cannot expect a very good quality from this phone but it's good
I am on the latest stock firmware and the picture quality of stock camera is good, the only reason I use snap cam is the autofocus issue. Otherwise some manual tweaks and you get the best photos from your stock camera.
And you can upload the images to any image hosting site and embed here.
Hit thanks if it helped.
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I'm still fresh
Also found this, how does Camera Cyber-shot compares to other options?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-l/themes-apps/mod-camera-cyber-shot-superior-auto-t2501740
yiokla said:
Also found this, how does Camera Cyber-shot compares to other options?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-l/themes-apps/mod-camera-cyber-shot-superior-auto-t2501740
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Doesn't make a HUGE impact. It's the hardware I told you. Stop expecting 'Stunning' pictures from xperia L. Use snap cam or camera 360 for appropriately focused pictures.
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Doesn't make a HUGE impact. It's the hardware I told you. Stop expecting 'Stunning' pictures from xperia L. Use snap cam or camera 360 for appropriately focused pictures.
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So my question should be what is the best results using other apps except stock cam for better hardware use?
Does the kitkat camera app on latest stock rom works like it does on the kitkat rom?
Tried snap cam & camera 360 (quite improved since the last time I tried it with my samsung galaxy core)
Still haven't shot a correct macro photo, It is insane that a photography specialized smartphone does not have a macro mode
yiokla said:
So my question should be what is the best results using other apps except stock cam for better hardware use?
Does the kitkat camera app on latest stock rom works like it does on the kitkat rom?
Tried snap cam & camera 360 (quite improved since the last time I tried it with my samsung galaxy core)
Still haven't shot a correct macro photo, It is insane that a photography specialized smartphone does not have a macro mode
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How could you even expect macro from a mid budget phone. I already told you that DO NOT expect so much from this camera.
These apps already draw the maximum output from the hardware and there can't be any more improvement.
These two apps I told are the best that I have found so far. So use these apps and search foor some better if you want.
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How could you even expect macro from a mid budget phone. I already told you that DO NOT expect so much from this camera.
These apps already draw the maximum output from the hardware and there can't be any more improvement.
These two apps I told are the best that I have found so far. So use these apps and search foor some better if you want.
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even older and cheeper models can shot at macro mode
I managed to do this with my old Sony Ericsson K550 that was a cyber-shot model
and also with my 5 mp samsung galaxy core so yes I except a smarphone with 8mp camera promoted as a smartphone for photograph to have at least the same if not better results with macro mode (if there was that mode to start with)
yiokla said:
even older and cheeper models can shot at macro mode
I managed to do this with my old Sony Ericsson K550 that was a cyber-shot model
and also with my 5 mp samsung galaxy core so yes I except a smarphone with 8mp camera promoted as a smartphone for photograph to have at least the same if not better results with macro mode (if there was that mode to start with)
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Samsung phones have undoubtedly pretty good cameras. But the worst part of Xperia L is the camera. It can't even closer click proper photos so there's no chance of macro.
And you can get the macro mode in some custom camera apps but won't give you extraordinary results.
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has anyone tried this for macro photos :
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400675952058
does those lenses work on auto focus?
Hi everyone!
This is something that has been bothering me (well, the only thing) regarding Mokee rom.
I don't like its camera app. I prefer miui 's camera app but I don´t want to go back to miui just because of the camera software as I'm loving all the rest in Mokee....
So, is there any really good camera app that does moreless the same job of miui's camera app? The one in Mokee is just so limited... and if you breed meanwhile you just can't take a nice picture, specially at night... I really have to stop breathing to take a nice pic at night with mokee's camera...
Which camera software do you recommend me to use? I tried several from playstore but none gave me the results of miui's camera.
Many thanks in advance
I'm currently using the cost free variant of HD Camera Ultra. I like its features.
I too am curious as to what other (preferably cost free) camera apps other Xiaomi Mi 4c users may be using.
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oldcpu said:
I'm currently using the cost free variant of HD Camera Ultra. I like its features.
I too am curious as to what other (preferably cost free) camera apps other Xiaomi Mi 4c users may be using.
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I looked over and over and finally I found something that impressed me... Try searching for "DSLR camera". I downloaded the PRO version from Aptoide.
Finally I have a real camera... It's just wonderful.
I also tested HD camera ultra and didn't quite liked it also but this DSLR camera is just perfect for me.
Well thanks for the feedback anyway
Two other cost free camera apps
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I looked over and over and finally I found something that impressed me... Try searching for "DSLR camera". I downloaded the PRO version from Aptoide.
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Glad to read you found an app that you like. There is a DSL Camera on Google Play Store (by Geeky Devs Studio) and I assume that is the 'pay' app you are referring to.
wrt cost free applications, there is also
LG Camera on Google Play Store (by RubberBigPepper). I played with it briefly and it provides a bit more control over one's camera than "HD Camera Ultra". I did encounter a bug with the white balance in "LG Camera". After one of my earlier pix, it selected one setting for while balance and locked on that even thou it was set to auto. This was very frustrating, although eventually I learned that to work around a clear 'bug' in the software, I had to manual change the white balance to something else, then go back to auto, before the auto worked (ie I managed to find a way out of some bug in the software's white balance auto setting). LG camera does have some adverts that I found a bit annoying - clearly they want one to pay for the commercial version to remove the adverts. I did not check out the cost to remove the adverts. Instead, I will likely remove the app. I can't see paying for a white balance bug.
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Open Camera on Google Play Store by Mark Harman. I played with this briefly. I really like its autofocus implementation. Click on any object in the camera view, and the software will endeavour to adjust all settings (and not just the focus) based on a small area about that object. I found that kind of neat.
As noted, likely I will delete "LG Camera" and keep "Open Camera" and keep "HD Camera Ultra".
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I'm using A Better Camera Unlocked, bought last year during 90% discount (was is christmas?) time just like this black friday discount.
I tested a lot of cameras like dslr camera, google camera, better camera, camera fx, camera fv-5, snap camera and so on.
For me camera fv-5 and snap camera hdr gives me the best results by far.
I personaly prefer snap camera hdr :good:
Quick question: Does the quality of the picture changes (does the post-processing algorythm changes) between camera apps, or is one better than the other just because of it's manual options?
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Quick question: Does the quality of the picture changes (does the post-processing algorythm changes) between camera apps, or is one better than the other just because of it's manual options?
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Post processing algo could differ from one app to another of course, it's up to the app writer to use what algo (possibly user configurable). The parameters sent to the camera might differ as well, where that could generate different initial image from the camera hardware.
Is there any camera that can take instant photos like miui camera? Snap camera can but it changes to a lower resolution.
Try google camera... it's much better and also faster now
What is not OK with the stock MIUI camera? Works really well for me.
Miui camera is wonderful... Probably the best I tried... But as I'm sticking with Mokee I dont have access to miuis camera... Using google camera at the moment... Simples but works well...
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What is not OK with the stock MIUI camera? Works really well for me.
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Miui camera is excellent but if we use cm or mokee rom then we can't use miui camera obviously.
I'm using Snap Camera. The picture is much more better and clearer compared to other apps that i had tried.
just my opinion tho..
Snap camera is really good... Tried google camera but... Snap camera is to me the best option... Lots of options and best image... IMO better than miui camera.
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Snap camera is really good... Tried google camera but... Snap camera is to me the best option... Lots of options and best image... IMO better than miui camera.
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Did you change around any settings in snap camera?
I changed ISO to get best PICs at night, steady shot is also very nice... Being able to Adjust brightness, exposure, contrast, sharpness while taking the pictures also gives a good improvement... Well among many other things I dont even know what they are for... Loool
But specially the night pics get much better...
Can somebody explain me, why Camera API 2.0 isn't used by most of the vendors? This is just ridiculous.
As for me, I use A Better Camera with everything unlocked.
Hello friend, but if you do like the Rom miui because you bought a phone Xiaomi?
Hello,
So I received my all new HTC U11 3 days back ( in India) officially. HTC u11 has world's best rated camera but I am not quite satisfied with the results.
1.) Rear camera is really struggling to capture the photos in low light. I can clearly see the noise.
2.) Front facing camera has no OIS so pictures are blurry and most of the times I noisy photos.
Find the attachments below :
1.) Front facing camera
2 ) rear facing camera
See the noise and level of quality.
hm.. photo #1 has the plant completely out of focus. photo #2 has the pot in focus. you may wanna make sure that the subject is in focus before snapping.
did you change the camera settings to "Touch autoexposure"? The default mode of the camera is "Center-weighted"
Conan1986 said:
hm.. photo #1 has the plant completely out of focus. photo #2 has the pot in focus. you may wanna make sure that the subject is in focus before snapping.
did you change the camera settings to "Touch autoexposure"? The default mode of the camera is "Center-weighted"
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Thank you for replying. Let me make the things clear.
The first photo was taken from the selfie camera where I tried to focus on the plant/pot everywhere but it was not focusing anyhow. No matter what it wasn't focusing.
In low light, I can clearly see the noise in the all corners.
The selfie camera doesn't have auto focus everything is in focus ( as long as it is at least 18 inches away). Play around with the settings for the rear camera. HDR auto, HDR, so far all my photos are excellent focal point and background.
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hm.. photo #1 has the plant completely out of focus. photo #2 has the pot in focus. you may wanna make sure that the subject is in focus before snapping.
did you change the camera settings to "Touch autoexposure"? The default mode of the camera is "Center-weighted"
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The selfie camera doesn't have auto focus everything is in focus ( as long as it is at least 18 inches away). Play around with the settings for the rear camera. HDR auto, HDR, so far all my photos are excellent focal point and background.
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Well I have attached a sample selfie shot. Please check and tell me.
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Well I have attached a sample selfie shot. Please check and tell me.
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Like I said you are too close using the selfie cam, it is meant too be an arm's long away to have everything in focus.
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Like I said you are too close using the selfie cam, it is meant too be an arm's long away to have everything in focus.
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Sir I am not complaining about the focus and all... See the noise... Can't you see the noise in the picture?
Even zoom your spiderman... You will notice the same noise.
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Sir I am not complaining about the focus and all... See the noise... Can't you see the noise in the picture?
Even zoom your spiderman... You will notice the same noise.[/Q
Adjust the iso manually
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Hi. Can you say more here or is there a link to how we can best make this adjustment? I'm not terribly savvy and appreciate the tips. Thx.
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Hi. Can you say more here or is there a link to how we can best make this adjustment? I'm not terribly savvy and appreciate the tips. Thx.
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Well, in the camera app, pull down the slider with the = icon, swipe to the right to reveal "Settings" which is on the left, tap on that and "Touch autoexposure" should be the first option.
This option is important if you tend to compose your shots with the subject not in the middle (rule of thirds) so tapping on your subject will adjust the exposure and focus according to your subject.
My low light shots are all at over 3000 ISO which leaves quite a bit of visible noise in the picture.
Not liking the camera in poor lighting just yet. Hopefully they will introduce an ISO limiter, or simply fix this in an upcoming update.
I also have a lot of noise in low light photos (rear camera). Automode just isn´t usable if you want to have nice low light photos. The pictures look like that of phones some years ago. Light sources are also always blown out a lot. I also think that the OIS of the U11 isn´t the best out there. So far I don´t really think that this is the best smartphone camera and I was hoping for a better camera performance. HTC told a german magazine in May that they want to deliver an update for the camera. But I don´t know if they really deliver or if this update was the small update of June (?) of the camera app itself. I did this update and nothing changed.
Camera is phenomenal with stunning low light performance.
Check one of mine in auto
IMAG0247 by xristos zerzis, on Flickr
Guys, I've been into photography for over 40yrs. - shooting at ISO 3000 will give you noise onless you're using one of the latest Pro or Prosumer cameras w/advanced sensors- the Nikon D5 / D500 are full frame cropped frame verions ef virtually the same camera in terms of auto focus, pic rendition, & yes, superlative results w/astronomical ISO's - which both support. This is a phone, not a prosumer or petter camera. 3000 ISO is gonna give noise. There are a number of companies that make post processing software specifically to help w/Noise. That nite shot the other fellow took is good work.
The phone is great. The camera is quite good. Deal w/the technical realities & don't expect the cellphone camera to deal w/noise like a Pro DSLR.
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Camera is phenomenal with stunning low light performance.
Check one of mine in auto
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That's great, but the ISO fired at only 1262.
Whenever I take a shot in similar lighting, auto mode uses ISO 3152, which means there will be a lot of noise.
Perhaps there are different software versions going around, because my phone has very poor low light performance in auto mode due to it using a far higher ISO than it should.
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The phone is great. The camera is quite good. Deal w/the technical realities & don't expect the cellphone camera to deal w/noise like a Pro DSLR.
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I'm not expecting such a small sensor to handle ISO well - I'm expecting that the camera won't default to a ridiculously high ISO like 3152 where my previous Samsung S6 was happily snapping along at ~1000 with stellar results.
Yes, everyone knows that this isn't a DSLR. But when they claim to have the best smartphone camera around I expect better results. I also don't know why they use a smaller sensor than before... This phone goes for 749 Euro and the low light results often look like from an old S5 or iPhone 4. The Automode just isn't usable in this scenarios. If they deliver an update they could solve the issues, I guess.
Turn on pro mode and drop ISO..
rom116 said:
Turn on pro mode and drop ISO..
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And here in the first sample you can see what I mean with this weak OIS...
Zico, as someone else said go Pro mode & get lower ISO, & even if this phone's camera sensor is smaller than prev ones, - compared to a Pro(sumer) DSLR, this fone's cam compared to prev one vs.
DSLR is like the choosing pinch hitters who bat .249 & .253- the smaller fone sensor is just a bit less than the prev *slightly* bigger one- then there is the density of pixels & dynamic range that make for a good camera - Y am I still talking abt this?
Pro mode and manually selecting ISO is not a solution to a poorly tuned auto mode - it is a workaround that is barely tolerable.
Hey guys, I'm new here, so I'm sorry if this has already been covered.
I have an unrooted international version of the One plus 6, with the pixel camera app side loaded.
I was just tinkering in the camera settings and I noticed that the pixel camera will, by default, only capture images in both 4;3 & 16;9 resolutions, utilizing anywhere from 2.8mp - 12mp on the rear camera.
With that in mind, one could make the assumption that the software isn't utilizing the potential of the hardware. (I'm also curious to know how the second lens is cooperating with it).
Basically, I'm just wondering if there is a way to fully utilize both the 20mp and 16mp sensors within the pixel camera..
Any feedback would be awesome! Also, if I'm being dumb by asking this because I'm not educated in this subject, then please, enlighten me so that I may learn ?
Thank you guys!
I don't think it's possible, for a simple reason : The Pixel 3 only has one sensor, and only 12 MP. So, GCam only uses one sensor, and handles 12 MP
But to be honest, it still produces pictures that are vastly superior to the OOS cam, so, for me at least, not a big deal !
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Use xtrme's gcam mod! Though the settings say that the limit is 12 MP, my photos thus far have always been saving in 16.3 MP (100% JPEG quality vs 15.9 MP on 95% default) unless you do some zooming (it will be scaled back to 12 MP but still very very usable). AFAIK that variant of GCam was specifically tinkered to work with OP6.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog370/
cdaboy said:
Use xtrme's gcam mod! Though the settings say that the limit is 12 MP, my photos thus far have always been saving in 16.3 MP (100% JPEG quality vs 15.9 MP on 95% default) unless you do some zooming (it will be scaled back to 12 MP but still very very usable). AFAIK that variant of GCam was specifically tinkered to work with OP6.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog370/
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The Xtrme's version is indeed pretty good ! Used it for some time.
I feel like the Advanced 1.4 from Arnova is better though, it even has Focus Tracking, which is the best thing ever
Just checked it, the photos save at 16.3 MP with 100% JPEG quality on 1.4 Advanced too. Note that i'm using the OP6 config that is available for it.
Still don't know if it uses both cameras though. On GCam and OOS Cam, the viewfinder only uses the bottom camera, that seems normal.
Totone56 said:
The Xtrme's version is indeed pretty good ! Used it for some time.
I feel like the Advanced 1.4 from Arnova is better though, it even has Focus Tracking, which is the best thing ever
Just checked it, the photos save at 16.3 MP with 100% JPEG quality on 1.4 Advanced too. Note that i'm using the OP6 config that is available for it.
Still don't know if it uses both cameras though. On GCam and OOS Cam, the viewfinder only uses the bottom camera, that seems normal.
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Do you perhaps have a link for Advanced 1.4 from Arnova?
Koeties said:
Do you perhaps have a link for Advanced 1.4 from Arnova?
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First one, in red
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-arnova8G2/
You can also get the config file, put it in a folder names "GCAM/Configs" on your storage, and double tap near the shutter in the app to enable it ! (The black part between the shutter and the link to the photos app for example)
These are all great suggestions guys, thank you!
Does the advanced 1.4 and the Xtreme mod allow for shooting in raw formats?
I'm trying to set my phone up to be the best point and shoot it can be, for the sole purpose of stock photography. I know both the pixel camera and the oos camera shoot in raw (oos pro mode is a beast and has outperformed the pixel manual settings consistently but is too cumbersome and doesn't shoot in true 16:9)