Sage advice from cyanogen - Motorola Atrix 2

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/sage-advice-from-cyanogen-still-valid-today/
Good read, and kind of sad that we are stuck with the "winzip" method that he mentions... Thanks Moto!

I read that while the forums were down, it is indeed a good read. It is very sad that we're reduced to doing this. Thanks a lot Moto.
I really wish OEMs could stick up for themselves more around the carriers

Yup, read it too when the forum were down.. was going to link it somewhere, but it sounds better coming from you. Good read though... recommend it to anyone who wants to jump in... he's a wise man.
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Bump, so that more may see this.
It is a nice quick explanation of the type of ROMS we are stick developing, and why we need to really figure our way out the proverbial box that moto has put us in, with only being able to make derivative work.

Bump too
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Related

rom/kernel/theme list

Could someone put together a list of the roms kernels and themes for this phone and keep it updated? I wish I knew more about this stuff and I'd do it myself but I'm kinda new and getting confused... hence the reason for the request... Any takers?
Thanks for everyones hard work... you all rock!!!
BAN
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All you need to do is look in both respective forums under infuse. One for themes and the other for android developement.
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Yeah seriously. Just read so you can learn along the way too.
Thank you both for the replies. I don't want to give the wrong impression... I read the fourms often. Just saying a list would be great... would help people know what fourm to start with, myself included. When you come into the game late its really tough to figure out where to start... for instance, the lastest and greatset stable build. No big deal though, I'll figure it out soon enough. Thanks again for the replys!
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I agree that more reading can definitely be done so that you have a better understanding of everything, but I also agree that the whole process of finding roms and kernels and themes is a pain.
I'm working on a website at android.jakaar.net which will encompass lists of roms and kernels for a large majority of Android phones. It's currently limited to the Samsung Captivate and Samsung Infuse, but go to
android.jakaar.net
I know it doesn't cover much right now, but I am working on it.
I hope it helps, and please forgive the fact that it's not the greatest site at the moment, it takes a lot of time to put all the info together.
let me know if you have a specific device you'd like me to add to my site. To do that, you can email me at [email protected] or go to android.jakaar.net/contact.html

Desperately need help

Flashed CM 7 Kernel with the Sky Ice Cream ROM. Phone won't boot past the Samsung logo. How do I get into Recovery?
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acles003 said:
Flashed CM 7 Kernel with the Sky Ice Cream ROM. Phone won't boot past the Samsung logo. How do I get into Recovery?
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you flashed a CM7 kernel on a Touchwiz rom....
what did you expect to happen?
first of all, turn off the phone
secondly, go READ what the F you are doing. getting into recovery is basic knowledge and involves 3 fingers..... you need to figure out how to do the rest.
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you flashed a CM7 kernel on a Touchwiz rom....
what did you expect to happen?
first of all, turn off the phone
secondly, go READ what the F you are doing. getting into recovery is basic knowledge and involves 3 fingers..... you need to figure out how to do the rest.
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Thanks buddy. Class act.
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Thanks buddy. Class act.
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yeah? would you like me to hold your hand while i spoonfeed the knowledge thats already available here?
Sorry for trying something new, being worried, and wanting the answer quickly so I can fix my phone. I did find the answer, no thanks to assholes like you.
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acles003 said:
Sorry for trying something new, being worried, and wanting the answer quickly so I can fix my phone. I did find the answer, no thanks to assholes like you.
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this site does not exist for support.
let me repeat that.
THIS SITE DOES NOT EXIST FOR SUPPORT.
you are expected to help yourself around here. watch the video that you are presented with when you sign up.
dont get pissed off at me because you didnt want to do your research and understand what you were doing to your phone. you will get zero sympathy like that.
drop the f'n attitude and teach yourself a thing or 2....
Thanks again for your help. Appreciate it.
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Wow rom manager i guess is dangerous
If people have an issue, and dont know how to get in to recovery. And your very brave flashing anything with out knowing how to get into recovery. Also cm7 kernel is for cm7. Be more careful in the futre or you will be bricked. You lucky this time. Also you may need to odin the stock tar at this point. But flashing a rom again after a data/cache wipe is worth a try. Also you should not nor should anyone be flashing anything. With out throughly reading and understanding what your about to do. It is also adviseable to have knowledge of the basics.
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this site does not exist for support.
let me repeat that.
THIS SITE DOES NOT EXIST FOR SUPPORT.
you are expected to help yourself around here. watch the video that you are presented with when you sign up.
dont get pissed off at me because you didnt want to do your research and understand what you were doing to your phone. you will get zero sympathy like that.
drop the f'n attitude and teach yourself a thing or 2....
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calm down. he was just asking for a little help... instead of *****ing at him why not help him out. everyone needs to start somewhere, so he messed up his first time. live and learn.
and OP. glad you got it working read into some more tutorials before you try again.
. Need to just read and understand what your doing before you attempt these things. Is it reallt that difficult to do a little research. Before possibly breaking your phone. And anyone will tell you that same thing. Because thats how we all learned read before hand. Lots of people are willing to help but not if your just going to be to lazy to research
I asked on two separate threads and no one answered me. I go on XDA and other forums over 5 times a day. I dont do coding or development for a living.. just wanted better battery life out of my phone. People are jumping to conclusions that I didn't do research. I did, I asked questions, got fed up & thought, let me just try this.
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You need to go here and read this it should recover your phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342348
silver03wrx said:
You need to go here and read this it should recover your phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342348
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Thank you. I got it into recovery using the volume keys and I wiped data and reinstalled the sky ice cream ROM. that's all I needed. Other guy just wanted to feel like a tough guy.
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^ i was just about to post the thread that he did ;P
but once you get it all back up an running. take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383464
acles003 said:
Thank you. I got it into recovery using the volume keys and I wiped data and reinstalled the sky ice cream ROM. that's all I needed. Other guy just wanted to feel like a tough guy.
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yep. im a tough guy.
why dont you learn a little bit about me before you go and make assumptions like that?
shockingly, i help out a lot, but i like this little thing called 'brutal honesty'. sometimes lazy people need a taste of it every so often. instead of spoonfeeding, it pisses them off enough to teach themselves something or make sure they comprehend what they are doing.
hate it or not, this site is NOT a support site. that has been stated time and time again....its nothing new.
its time to shut up or nut up. plain and simple.
keep calling me names and trying to demean me. it wont work.
Glad you got it working, deff beware next time. Read up on kernels n such any questions we'll be glad to help. I remember when I was brand new to Android period and got a lot of great help and advice from the great community
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Glad you got it working, deff beware next time. Read up on kernels n such any questions we'll be glad to help. I remember when I was brand new to Android period and got a lot of great help and advice from the great community
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That's all I was looking for. Thank you.
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Pirateghost said:
yep. im a tough guy.
why dont you learn a little bit about me before you go and make assumptions like that?
shockingly, i help out a lot, but i like this little thing called 'brutal honesty'. sometimes lazy people need a taste of it every so often. instead of spoonfeeding, it pisses them off enough to teach themselves something or make sure they comprehend what they are doing.
hate it or not, this site is NOT a support site. that has been stated time and time again....its nothing new.
its time to shut up or nut up. plain and simple.
keep calling me names and trying to demean me. it wont work.
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I love thus Guy........
The brutal honesty is something we need.
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Brutal honestly is what every thread has. And what does it turn to? Flaming. Other will get mad and start talking all hard with will all be internet tuff that. We definitely do not need that.
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Pirateghost said:
yep. im a tough guy.
why dont you learn a little bit about me before you go and make assumptions like that?
shockingly, i help out a lot, but i like this little thing called 'brutal honesty'. sometimes lazy people need a taste of it every so often. instead of spoonfeeding, it pisses them off enough to teach themselves something or make sure they comprehend what they are doing.
hate it or not, this site is NOT a support site. that has been stated time and time again....its nothing new.
its time to shut up or nut up. plain and simple.
keep calling me names and trying to demean me. it wont work.
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calm down.
he learned from his mistake. look at that. he wont do it again.
he would of still learned without you chomping on his a**.
and as much as you say its not a support site. its a site for flashing, with flashing people are always going to run into problems, and always gonna need help. so no, it isnt a support site. but yes, it is a site where friendly people can help someone who's having a problem. instead of calling someone out for their mistake, why not help them fix it then direct them to tools so that they dont make the mistake again, we're all human. so maybe he just got his phone and was excited to flash? or was fustrated with his battery life, as he said in a previous post. and he looked up instructions and didnt understand. but this site not being "a support site", he couldnt get help, so he took it into his own hands. i would of done the same thing. just because you know how to do something doesnt mean you get to cuss someone else out for not knowing how.

Farewell SK4G

Regarding SK4G, there's not much left to do except fix a few bugs in the latest version (pertaining to new tweaks, **** happens right?) Then, after get a battery mod, maybe build in supercharger values and then? My works done, nothing left to do. If you have ideas I'm capable of doing, bring them up here and Ill let you know if I can do it. Otherwise, in a month I may be moving to a new phone to pick up work there and become more advanced.
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Wrong section btw.
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It has to do with development of the SK4G. I, think people have a right to know after developing something and using it, where the device stands. You no longer have a sidekick, so at the moment Im the last remaining dev, and while I'm trying not to leave people in the dark, I'm not even a good developer. Hell, I'm not even a developer at all. I just grouped things together. So, I won't be on XDA anymore, so I don't care if this is wrong section or not. I did my good deed and did my best to develop a ROM. Enjoy it all, remember stick to 3.7. Peace!
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come on we cant give up on the sidekick
Well, thank you for what you did and good luck in the future.
I would probably ***** about this, but I have less than a month until I can upgrade to a not POS phone.
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thanks for the work and trying to make our phone as good as possible, but unfortunately this phone is far from savable. its quite sad, really. i'm going to Tmobile today to see what they can do about getting me a different phone, this is simply unacceptable how it behaves even with a custom ROM installed.
Let me know what they say about getting a new phone, I've been trying the same thing
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same bull****, that they can only replace it with another sidekick. i was like, really?
they said the only thing i could do was add a line and then just switch phones. bogus. the rep at the store knew damn well the problem that the Sidekick was, so Tmobile is VERY aware of the problem they have/had with this phone and its software. worst come to worst, i'll threaten a class action lawsuit, since i know theres a lot of people who would be interested given the pages and pages of complaints about this phone on its tmobile.com support page forum.
i just want a similar phone, not even one thats necessarily better, just one that works better. like the LG Mytouch or something. anything with 4g thats similar and Android.
ok i wanna look into this, i might take a new one just to have a fresh phone but no this isnt acceptable, im working on a rom right now maybe it will work better after i work the kinks out
Yeah, I'm surprise jin1337's rom are way better than GC, kanger are better. Pick up n fix it change what people want. Dev want to do it their on way. Customer is always right.
Yeah the mods in this section could care less about the Device, and Neither of the two who ruined it for us have one either.
NIce job.
I see how the forum works. If you say something they dont like they just delete it. Great forum. No wonder people ares starting to migrate.
Also Patent Pending. That made me LOL Rad you are sad, threaten to sue ...LAWL you have ZERO grounds. Just leave please and let us have our crappy device without you.
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Yeah, I'm surprise jin1337's rom are way better than GC, kanger are better. Pick up n fix it change what people want. Dev want to do it their on way. Customer is always right.
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In english please
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chjema said:
Yeah the mods in this section could care less about the Device, and Neither of the two who ruined it for us have one either.
NIce job.
I see how the forum works. If you say something they dont like they just delete it. Great forum. No wonder people ares starting to migrate.
Also Patent Pending. That made me LOL Rad you are sad, threaten to sue ...LAWL you have ZERO grounds. Just leave please and let us have our crappy device without you.
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Do you want my patent numbers??? There is no Loling going on here. All my scripts are copyright and patent pending.
And that is fine with me. The specs of this device make me wanna Lulz and Lol. Sooooooo Ya I wont be helping this community any further.
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Exactly my point you are so bitter and childish (you go on to bash the specs, really? wow.) Good riddance.
Pending is the keyword, I have one too. LAWL
chjema said:
Exactly my point you are so bitter and childish (you go on to bash the specs, really? wow.) Good riddance.
Pending is the keyword, I have one too. LAWL
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Pending or not doesnt matter. You apparently dont have a clear understanding on US Patent laws. No point on wasting my breath on trying to teach you.
Your guys one and only person doing roms for this device shouldnt of kanged my init.d scripts. End of story.
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I'm not talking about that. It's your attitude, and it started WAY before you were "helping".
You have a holier-than-thou attitude and it stinks. That was all I was referring to.
Take care good sir.
an you really patent a script? if so id question us patent laws
chjema said:
I'm not talking about that. It's your attitude, and it started WAY before you were "helping".
You have a holier-than-thou attitude and it stinks. That was all I was referring to.
Take care good sir.
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Wow...Totally wrong. I wanted to help reviewers with generic ginger and let him use my scripts. Cause he asked me I let him use them UNDER LICENSE. JiN never asked me to use my scripts for his run off kang. I dont have a high and mighty complex I just dont apperciate people thinking its ok to take my work without asking.
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an you really patent a script? if so id question us patent laws
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Yes sir I did.
And actually it was a total of 9 different init.d scripts.
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Patents on a script? LAWLZ thanks for getting rid of our developers (we didn't have many to start) I noticed jin1337 was doing all the modfications to gingerclone. Wonder why reviewers was getting most of the credit. You have managed to ruin developement and I want icyblaze reopened. Lots of people were looking forward to that. You people really take code way too seriously anyway considering your code came from a source code someone else compied as well.... sad to see such immature people gathering to bash people who want to save this device :-(
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Just a little update on why things seem slow in here

So, I have seen a few posts as of late with some frustrations of there being very little going on here in the Atrix2 forum.
I want to give those a little background right now, and I am not speaking for every dev in here either, and I am hoping that they will all jump in here and give their 2 cents as well, so that we can let everyone know what is up.
As I am sure many have seen all the hoopla over the ICS leaks. This is one reason why things are a little slow right now. I am pretty sure that I don't want to keep working on things that are for 2.3.6 when 4.04 is about to be released in next several weeks. I am just guessing, but I am sure that the other devs may be feeling some of the same thing right now.
I KNOW that once we get ICS in hand, that there will be so much going on in here, it will be hard to keep up.
I am already working on some new hacks for ICS, and working on the CM9 FULL fresh compile, so that once we have the ICS kernel on our phones this should in all theoretical ways, work. I am still working on the bootloader as well, there are 3 different things that I am currently trying out, to break into it.
I also know that I am really hitting the Moto servers pretty hard with my own scripts to try and find an AT&T ICS leak for us, to get a head start on some of these FUN things for us, but until we get at least that, there is not too much we can do.
Ok devs, jump in, I hope I am not the only one in here that is thinking like this... I just thought this might be a nice way to let everyone know what is up and what we might be attempting at the moment, just before the you know what hits the fan.
Very well spoken as usual Jim! I feel the same way, once ICS comes out my work on GB is done!
I've been playing with AOKP every chance I get trying to get a working port going, once we get these bugs out for SCV6 and I get v1.3 out for Lithium, AOKP will be my main focus until we get ICS. I just don't see a point in continuing work on something that will be obsolete very shortly.
Development isn't dead by along ways, we are just at a stand still
If you're not checking cheesecake, you're not contributing all you can !!
jimbridgman said:
So, I have seen a few posts as of late with some frustrations of there being very little going on here in the Atrix2 forum.
I want to give those a little background right now, and I am not speaking for every dev in here either, and I am hoping that they will all jump in here and give their 2 cents as well, so that we can let everyone know what is up.
As I am sure many have seen all the hoopla over the ICS leaks. This is one reason why things are a little slow right now. I am pretty sure that I don't want to keep working on things that are for 2.3.6 when 4.04 is about to be released in next several weeks. I am just guessing, but I am sure that the other devs may be feeling some of the same thing right now.
I KNOW that once we get ICS in hand, that there will be so much going on in here, it will be hard to keep up.
I am already working on some new hacks for ICS, and working on the CM9 FULL fresh compile, so that once we have the ICS kernel on our phones this should in all theoretical ways, work. I am still working on the bootloader as well, there are 3 different things that I am currently trying out, to break into it.
I also know that I am really hitting the Moto servers pretty hard with my own scripts to try and find an AT&T ICS leak for us, to get a head start on some of these FUN things for us, but until we get at least that, there is not too much we can do.
Ok devs, jump in, I hope I am not the only one in here that is thinking like this... I just thought this might be a nice way to let everyone know what is up and what we might be attempting at the moment, just before the you know what hits the fan.
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Agreed. I will speak for myself when saying that Knowing ics is only weeks away,i myself am not going to kill myself in the kitchen with new updates or roms that are going to be old news and outdated ,and virtually useless to you guys in a matter of weeks.
Everything is quiet for me because i myself consider this my "break time" before the countless hours i am about to spend whipping up new roms and tweaks and just tearing the ics rom apart and exploring the new posibilities i will have with it.
Think of this as the calm before the storm.
Or do what i did,once i got this phone i was a little unsatisfied seeing only one rom at the time (lfaber06's scv4). So instead of complaining and/or waiting i took it upon myself to learn how to do what devs do.
You can Either be apart of the problem, or be a part of the solution.
My two cents..
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Or do what i did,once i got this phone i was a little unsatisfied seeing only one rom at the time (lfaber06's scv4). So instead of complaining and/or waiting i took it upon myself to learn how to do what devs do.
You can Either be apart of the problem, or be a part of the solution.
My two cents..
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That's where I am. Though, it may be more of a learning curve for me (as likely it has for others) to get a handle on things with the limitations imposed via AT&T / Moto, I am eager and have been using my time to soak up as much info and knowledge from outside sources, as well as guys here on the forum to be -eventually- helpful.
I've said it before, and have no qualms seeming like I'm sounding like a broken record, but I envy the dev's, hackers, et al that have AND continue to inspire me to get to the place I'd like to be...
I look forward to what ICS will give you guys to work with, and what it will do for the A2 community here. You guys are all my heros! lol
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Thank you all for the time, dedication and hard work you've given to our community.
I'm grateful and humbled by each of you.
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Thank you all for the time, dedication and hard work you've given to our community.
I'm grateful and humbled by each of you.
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If you dev guys planning to leave a2 forum,then maybe i'll leave the boat too and get razr or htc one.
You guys are the reason for me to hold on my a2.
I understand how difficult to mod this device since it locked by at&t,though it has nice spec.
I'm very grateful when a new rom coming out,and i will hit thanks as many as i can for you guys,but no need to rush to develop this device and you can take your time to rest or for family.
You guys are rocks!
Many thanks for everything all of you have done.
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I just wanted to say something as a regular flasher(That sounded bad but you guys know what i mean,. I have looked into the dev work and I'm just not into it. I basically do not have the time because of work and trying to raise my kids. I do understand there is a lot of hard work that goes into being a dev. I myself do not expect anything from you guys and I'm sure some people agree. The way i see it, if you all put out something for all of us, that is great but in no way, shape or form are you expected to. If things here are slow, so be it. If people want to cry about how slow it is here then they ought to start learning how to do things themselves. Anyway, we all appreciate the work that the devs do here and I don't want you to feel like you are under pressure to put anything out because your not. Keep up the good work.
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I just wanted to say something as a regular flasher(That sounded bad but you guys know what i mean,. I have looked into the dev work and I'm just not into it. I basically do not have the time because of work and trying to raise my kids. I do understand there is a lot of hard work that goes into being a dev. I myself do not expect anything from you guys and I'm sure some people agree. The way i see it, if you all put out something for all of us, that is great but in no way, shape or form are you expected to. If things here are slow, so be it. If people want to cry about how slow it is here then they ought to start learning how to do things themselves. Anyway, we all appreciate the work that the devs do here. It is greatly appreciated on my end.
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That is not why I did this. I just wanted to give all of the devs a chance to give everyone a little update as to what is currently going on. I felt that as we are awaiting the ICS leak or official release, that we could just take a few min. to give everyone a little update in good faith. The fact that others have noticed a little slow down seemed the perfect chance to do something like this.
As you said, this write up really was not for the ones with issues, but more for the faithful that are here all the time and giving their support if nothing else. I really don't care if people want to whine and such. I am here to do what I feel is more fun for me, and my "curiosity" than anything else, and if that can help someone else, or give us some great finds, then awesome.
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That is not why I did this. I just wanted to give all of the devs a chance to give everyone a little update as to what is currently going on. I felt that as we are awaiting the ICS leak or official release, that we could just take a few min. to give everyone a little update in good faith. The fact that others have noticed a little slow down seemed the perfect chance to do something like this.
As you said, this write up really was not for the ones with issues, but more for the faithful that are here all the time and giving their support if nothing else. I really don't care if people want to whine and such. I am here to do what I feel is more fun for me, and my "curiosity" than anything else, and if that can help someone else, or give us some great finds, then awesome.
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I understand that is not the reason why you wrote it. I knew that when i wrote my original post. I just wanted to let you all know that some of us are appreciative of your work, that's all. I don't feel the devs get enough credit sometimes.
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I'm very grateful for all the dev's here and I think you guys are all doing such awesome work. You guys have also been a huge help to me as I have started tearing apart ROM's and such on my own. And let me tell ya....
IT'S TIME CONSUMING AND INFURIATING!!!!
Alter code, write code. Flash. Boot Loop. Restore. Find out what went wrong. Alter code, write code. Flash. Bootloop. Repeat. LOL.
Got major props for you guys and the patience and time you have put into devoloping for us all. For free. Thanks so much!
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...I just wanted to let you all know that some of us are appreciative of your work, that's all. I don't feel the devs get enough credit sometimes.
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+1 and I concur.
Ive been really throwing myself in like 6 directions lately... helpin and tryin other devs work while working on my own.....
At this point im cookin up daveBeta based on the us version for cheesecake purposes, and hopefully that will be my last gb mod for the a2... everyone should be running a us att based rom and cheesecaking like a mo fo so we can get the ice cream wagon underway....
For me its button up time, wrap it up and get ready for the hurricane...
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Need some info from devs.

hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM
u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch
shardul.phatak said:
u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch
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Hope i don't get flamed for this
Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.
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Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.
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I already know that nothing is guranteed but looking at situation one can atleast judge what is up in store.Right now that dev section is kinda stagnant and devs are upto something in secret and that is absolutely fine considering what moto has done in past.So a small heads up would always be welcomed.
Archmag3 said:
hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM
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Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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HA! Love the word play there.
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Apex_Strider said:
Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.
Archmag3 said:
Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.
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You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team hasn't bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team has bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.
Archmag3 said:
For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.
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You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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So true.very well said bro.
athani said:
You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
Edit: I really wasn't trying to be a jerk, but when someone - anyone - makes a post, they should expect to have it open for discussion. That's all I was engaging in.
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
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Sir, whatever made you think I was referring to your posts ! Relax
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Sir, whatever made you think I was talking about you! Relax.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.
athani said:
I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can be befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can he befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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I wasn't arguing semantics. It's something that requires serious introspection among some guys here.
Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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devilhunter47 said:
Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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I think the resale value will be adversely affected because of real or perceived lack of after sales support.
About chance to own a Motorola phone, I think that is less of a consideration as these days, everything is available on ebay India.

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