Greetings All,
I recently purchased my Nexus S. I have multiple google & google hosted email accounts.
Today, I noticed a lag on the gmail app accounts page.
I was checking to see if I had new mail in my accounts and it took a few seconds for the totals to load on the page that displays all your accounts and their new mail totals.
Am I just being paranoid?
tamaratee said:
Greetings All,
I recently purchased my Nexus S. I have multiple google & google hosted email accounts.
Today, I noticed a lag on the gmail app accounts page.
I was checking to see if I had new mail in my accounts and it took a few seconds for the totals to load on the page that displays all your accounts and their new mail totals.
Am I just being paranoid?
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Is this in the Gmail app, or the Email app?
Do you have background data syncing enabled? Mobile data enabled? WiFi sleep policy to "never"?
Could you be more specific in what you're expecting to happen and what's making you paranoid? It sounds to me like maybe the app wasn't syncing in the background until you woke up the phone and opened the app, forcing it to call the mothership and ask for a sync.
I've noticed some strange occurrences with the Gmail app myself. The most common occurrence is that I archive new emails and then find that the app still claims I have unread messages which it will not let me access. It just says at the top Inbox (XXX). Usually clearing data for gmail fixes it, but in some cases I have to uninstall gmail entirely and reinstall it to get it working.
kenvan19 said:
I've noticed some strange occurrences with the Gmail app myself. The most common occurrence is that I archive new emails and then find that the app still claims I have unread messages which it will not let me access. It just says at the top Inbox (XXX). Usually clearing data for gmail fixes it, but in some cases I have to uninstall gmail entirely and reinstall it to get it working.
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I'm sure I've mentioned it elsewhere, but my only issue with the gmail app on the Nexus S is that outgoing messages sometimes get stuck in the outbox and the only way to get rid of them is to clear data and cache for the app.
Isn't the gmail app universal across android 2.x products? It's just a Market download. I don't notice my gmail problem with the one on my i9000.
distortedloop said:
I'm sure I've mentioned it elsewhere, but my only issue with the gmail app on the Nexus S is that outgoing messages sometimes get stuck in the outbox and the only way to get rid of them is to clear data and cache for the app.
Isn't the gmail app universal across android 2.x products? It's just a Market download. I don't notice my gmail problem with the one on my i9000.
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I've had the same issue with the last three phones I've owned (mind you they've been in quick succession) so I don't think its a Nexus S specific issue. I had just hoped it would go away. However, I've also experienced the issue you speak of. Actually, there is one in my outbox now that I'm too lazy to deal with (its just a message with an apk I wanted to modify so I was emailing it to my comp to deal with).
Hi folks,
The native email app on my Verizon Galaxy S III is setup for POP3 send/receive with my ISP account, just as I've configured on prior phones. When it "syncs" email, anything in my Inbox on the phone literally disappears and new email is downloaded and shown in the Inbox. Sometimes, email sits on the phone for a day then is erased on the next synch.
I've tried turning off synch for this POP3 email under Settings -> Accounts, which seems to keep the Inbox populated longer than an hour or less, but nothing prevents emails from being removed up to a day after being received.
This behavior is unwanted and seems a bug - exact thing happens on our other GS3.
Ideas welcome.
UPDATE: I found a repeatable scenario for this symptom and reported it to Verizon Technical Support. This seems specific to email programs based on the stock ICS code for this phone. I have purchased Kaiten email as a workaround option (it's very good, IMHO - K-9 email is the earlier, still-free version of Kaiten, if you are interested to try).
- ooofest
The included email application also irks me as well; even when I set it to sync ONLY my inbox, it floods me with email from all my other folders, including the junk folder... And to top it off, it syncs waaay more than I tell it too..
Anyways back to your problem, have you tried clearing the email application's data? Perhaps starting fresh with the application might be what you need.
To do that, just to Settings -> Application Manager > Look for 'Email' , press it, and then hit "Clear Data".
When you launch email after that, it will be as if you first opened the application.
Hope that helps..
Thanks, we've tried clearing, deleting/reinstalling the accounts, etc. and no go. I've setup these same POP3 accounts on multiple devices in the past for all sorts of email clients and this is the first to wipe out prior emails before my eyes.
Email should be rather basic and is kind of essential, so a bug like this is odd.
I also don't understand what the Settings -> Accounts -> Email -> Synch checkbox is supposed to do in this case, since the Email app has settings to check for new email every 15 minutes and does so if I uncheck that box in the phone's Settings.
Unfortunately, I haven't found another email client - pay or free - which has a decent interface in comparison to this basic app. It seems stupid to pay for such a basic feature, so I'll phone this in to Verizon as another complaint about the phone (i.e., it won't be the first, unfortunately - I'm hoping this feedback gets to Samsung eventually), but am willing to try other clients just to get a clear, basic interface and solid operation.
- ooofest
Well, if your phone is rooted (it is much easier to do it now in less than five minutes), then you could also replace the stock email application with the aosp email application. It'S the email application that's on pure android. I find it much better than the included app.
yosterwp said:
Well, if your phone is rooted (it is much easier to do it now in less than five minutes), then you could also replace the stock email application with the aosp email application. It'S the email application that's on pure android. I find it much better than the included app.
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Yeah, I've been avoiding root - even with the new procedure - in case the phone needed to go back in due to any h/w issues, since I had WiFi oddness in the first week (which has since gone away . . . even more odd). Just didn't feel like going through unrooting, etc. if returnable issues continued.
It might be what I need to do, though it can't hurt to give Verizon a call and report this app behavior.
- ooofest
I am having a somewhat similar situation. Using the stock email app on my S3, my inbox seems to be deleting any emails older than 1 week? I do have it set to "Never". Anyone else have this?
ricky babalu said:
I am having a somewhat similar situation. Using the stock email app on my S3, my inbox seems to be deleting any emails older than 1 week? I do have it set to "Never". Anyone else have this?
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Yes, though this happens within 24 hours for both of our GS3 phones, despite the "Sync" values in Settings for each account.
I am literally seeing the emails disappear before my eyes on refreshes, as they don't even go into Trash. Something seems awfully amiss.
- ooofest
ooofest said:
Yes, though this happens within 24 hours for both of our GS3 phones, despite the "Sync" values in Settings for each account.
I am literally seeing the emails disappear before my eyes on refreshes, as they don't even go into Trash. Something seems awfully amiss.
- ooofest
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I rely on my emails for business, so this is a huge issue for me.
I am going to give K-9 a try. I might also look into syncing my business account with Gmail using IMAP
yosterwp said:
Well, if your phone is rooted (it is much easier to do it now in less than five minutes), then you could also replace the stock email application with the aosp email application. It'S the email application that's on pure android. I find it much better than the included app.
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Do you happen to have a link? Thank you
Dudenell said:
Do you happen to have a link? Thank you
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Here you go: Click here
Don't forget to thank the op of that thread (too )
I decided to root the Galaxy S III (with the quick method), deleted the shipped email and exchange apps, installed the AOSP versions from ICS and . . . emails disappear from the InBox even faster, now. So, there's something odd going on, here.
I found a copy of the Verizon stock image for our phones, researched how to convert and mount the system.img.ext4 file contained therein, pulled out the Samsung SecEmail and Exchange .apk and .odex files, then recopied them into /system/app. Rebooting had my Samsung email working again, bugs and all.
So, now I'm going to unroot and call Verizon Support. Titanium backup had a backup of these apps, but when I uninstalled the apps from the phone . . . it also deleted the backups, apparently. Hm.
Thanks.
- ooofest
Definitely freaky behavior! I don’t have a phone with POP3 in front of me so I may not have the menu wording exact. I found that if you change Amount of Mail to Sync to “1 Month or 100 Emails” (it was the last option in the drop down box) it corrects the deleted email problem.
Hope this helps,
BigK52
I dont know if you want to go through this or not. I was having serious email issues also. stuff deleting, not receiving, not pushing...etc. I was rooted with a newly flashed Rom and thought maybe it was the Rom causing the issues. Everything on the Rom was working perfectly except this. I also use my email for work so it was important that it work correctly. I had just spent several hours setting my phone up but decided to wipe clean again and reflash. In my set up with Bean V5 it asks if I wanted to restore any emails already set up. the first time I pressed yes, this time I bypassed and instlled everything and prcedded manually not using auto. Everythign went through fine and my email and the rest of the software seems to be working just fine. It was a lot of work and wasted time but hopefully it will be worth it if all works well. Just a thought.
BigK52 said:
Definitely freaky behavior! I don’t have a phone with POP3 in front of me so I may not have the menu wording exact. I found that if you change Amount of Mail to Sync to “1 Month or 100 Emails” (it was the last option in the drop down box) it corrects the deleted email problem.
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Thanks, it was one of the early options I tried here (actually, went with various values), but both phones still delete Inbox emails within 24 hours.
Yes, definitely freaky behavior.
- ooofest
1Android said:
. . . In my set up with Bean V5 it asks if I wanted to restore any emails already set up. the first time I pressed yes, this time I bypassed and instlled everything and prcedded manually not using auto. Everythign went through fine and my email and the rest of the software seems to be working just fine. It was a lot of work and wasted time but hopefully it will be worth it if all works well. Just a thought.
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When I reinstalled the default Samsung email + Exchange APKs after backing out the AOSP versions, I went through "Manual" configuration this time . . . we'll see if that matters, but it really shouldn't. Thanks for the suggestion.
- ooofest
Ouch, it's still not working? If manually setting the settings doesn't work, perhaps it is an issue with the email service you are using... If there is a web interface for your email service, perhaps you have a setting for deleting a message after a certain amount of time or after you view a message. Perhaps that's the case?
Just a thought, I hope in the end it all works out for you
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Yeah, it's rather odd. I tried our Droid Incredible, Incredible 2 and Galaxy Tab (all on Gingerbread) yesterday, with no problems retaining our POP3 emails.
Seems to be a POP3 issue related to the ICS email client. Testing with a Play email replacement today . . .
- ooofest
OK, while on the phone with Verizon Support, I figured out a repeatable problem scenario:
Setup a POP3 account using the default Email app
Pull down emails from your server using POP3. There will be new emails in your phone's local Inbox and you can do anything you like with them (i.e., all functionality is enabled and operates as expected).
At this point, you can sync/refresh the Inbox for your POP3 account as much as you want and the emails you downloaded remain local to the phone.
Delete some or all of the previously downloaded emails from the server. This happens sporadically in our case, because only our PCs delete emails from the mail server at various points in the day, but our phones poll for new emails every 15 minutes.
You can still sync/refresh the Inbox for your POP3 account as much as you want and the emails you downloaded remain local to the phone.
Send a new email to your account, i.e., place a new email on the server.
Refresh your account's Inbox on the phone by either re-opening the closed Email program or hitting the little refresh circle in the upper right corner while viewing the Inbox.
Your new email will be downloaded from the server. And, all emails that were deleted from the server will disappear from your Inbox.
So, the local Inbox disappearances only happen for emails that were deleted from the server, during a synch that brings a new email to the Inbox from that same POP3 server.
I reported this scenario to Verizon Technical Support for submission to Samsung.
There may be other repeatable scenarios which cause local Inbox emails to disappear from the stock Email app, but I am not yet aware of them.
They had another report of the same issue, with only recommended workaround being the installation of a new POP3-supporting Email app (they suggested K-9).
- ooofest
ooofest said:
They had another report of the same issue, with only recommended workaround being the installation of a new POP3-supporting Email app (they suggested K-9).
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I can tell you K9 won't work, either. It also deletes all your emails that aren't on the server once you sync just as the stock app does, however I didn't try K9 with the stock email app deleted so who knows? I guess I'll give it a try with the stock app deleted and report back.
I'll be following this thread, meanwhile I'll probably re-activate my Thunderbolt or my old BlackBerry because, unfortunately, I cannot live with this bug.
UPDATE: Use Titanium BU to remove email app(s), reboot and install Aqua Mail, it retains emails after they are deleted on the server!
This means TOUGH LUCK, ebay people, my Galaxy S3 is NOT FOR SALE!
xs11e said:
I can tell you K9 won't work, either. It also deletes all your emails that aren't on the server once you sync just as the stock app does, however I didn't try K9 with the stock email app deleted so who knows? I guess I'll give it a try with the stock app deleted and report back.
I'll be following this thread, meanwhile I'll probably re-activate my Thunderbolt or my old BlackBerry because, unfortunately, I cannot live with this bug.
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I've moved to the purchased Kaiten email app - from the author of K-9 - and it works great. Respects the settings for each account and there have been no unexpected actions. UI is solid, too.
- ooofest
hi
it has been a while now, my Google Account is screwing up the sync to my Samsung Sgs2 every 2 weeks or so, I used to remove and put back the Google account and that fixed it. now that doesn't work anymore.
unless I click on "sync" is not doing anything so basically not "pushing" emails anymore....
is there something that could fix it? ive reinstalled gmail, etc etc. nothing helped... I am assuming I should reinstall the OS?
many thanks
gabrio
Hi,
Before reinstalling the OS itself, and even if clearing google framework data is not really recommended, you can apply this workaround:
Workaround:
I force-stopped, cleared data on "Google Services Framework", Gmail app, and Play Store. Rebooted the device. Open Play Store, Agree to the terms. Open Gmail, let it do its "first time setup" (takes about 2 minutes).
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source: take a look in google with keywords "Working workaround for Gmail Auto Sync Issues after 4.8+ updates"
Hope it helps
P.
pfloc said:
Hi,
Before reinstalling the OS itself, and even if clearing google framework data is not really recommended, you can apply this workaround:
source: take a look in google with keywords "Working workaround for Gmail Auto Sync Issues after 4.8+ updates"
Hope it helps
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as usual, XDA delivers, I have done the steps you mentioned and my Sync is up and running again. Let's see if it holds from now on.
Thanks so much
hi
something bad must have happened last night / this morning. I had again the sync problem, gmail not download any email or sending anything out from my mobile.
I did again
Workaround:
I force-stopped, cleared data on "Google Services Framework", Gmail app, and Play Store. Rebooted the device. Open Play Store, Agree to the terms. Open Gmail, let it do its "first time setup" (takes about 2 minutes).
But this time when you open Google Play it's saying "check your connection and try again", grey screen, nothing happening, I tried empty cache as well. I can swipe from the left side and I see my email there with "redeem, settings and help & feedback" but nothing loads. I updated manually to very latest GPS apk.
opened Gmail and it's still syncing, nothing happens.
any ideas? seriously upset that they keep changing things!
thanks
after some fiddling around, I have removed gmail, reinstalled (I like an old version), nada, so then I went and removed the Google Account as I thought, well why not? that did the trick, Gmail started working again and after a bit of clicks I got the Google Play working again. Now calendar sync is screwing up a bit lol.....never working at once!
Earlier I did try to delete the hosts file in ETC as someone suggested but that didn't help.
thought to add my 2 cents.
Gab
What are the possible replacements for google services?
Aptoide/Yalp store as replacement for play store?
If it works, I guess installing youtube, maps, etc. from either store should work? Or not?
Or we can find alternative apps thatbwork like youtube, gmaps, etc. anyway
How about retrieving contacts saved in google account? Can i retrieve them using browser logged in my google account? How to import into phone?
Users of Apps/games that require google login like pubg should use alternative logins now. Will it work?
What are the all the requirements for degooglefied phone like nubia x?
Hi,
I'm using one phone like that, until some solution for the google services is found.
It's a bit uncomfortable, but it's working. In anther one post I have uploaded a picture how it looks like.
Here is the answers of your questions:
sgn15 said:
Aptoide/Yalp store as replacement for play store?
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I'm downloading the applications from Google Play store, and then installing the apks manually.
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If it works, I guess installing youtube, maps, etc. from either store should work? Or not?
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YouTube app generally working, but closes when cant find the google services. Anyway I'm watching the videos from the browser.
Maps - you can install Chrome and then pin it to the home screen. Works like charm.
You can install Mesanger, WatsApp, Viber, Skype - they work.
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How about retrieving contacts saved in google account? Can i retrieve them using browser logged in my google account? How to import into phone?
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I have download a Microsoft launcher. It has Cortana as voice assistant. Then Outlook app, which can import all the contacts and from your accounts (o365, Google, Hotmail, yahoo etc.)
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sers of Apps/games that require google login like pubg should use alternative logins now. Will it work?
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With PUBG I had some issues installing it because except the apk has obb, may be I'll try later when I have some time. Fortnite is working like charm. Even with the back screen two additional buttons is like a cheat.
Things which I could not solve until now:
- Outlook cant import o365 mail hosted by GoDaddy.
- It seems that, a lot of applications rely on google services for the push notifications. If the app (let say Viber) is not running, you may not have popup notification on the lock screen. (If anyone knows how to solve that I'll be happy)
So, that's all. At the end you can live with the phone. I'm happy with it.
I hope that answers your question. If you have other questions - let me know
br_other said:
Hi,
I'm using one phone like that, until some solution for the google services is found.
It's a bit uncomfortable, but it's working. In anther one post I have uploaded a picture how it looks like.
Here is the answers of your questions:
I'm downloading the applications from Google Play store, and then installing the apks manually.
YouTube app generally working, but closes when cant find the google services. Anyway I'm watching the videos from the browser.
Maps - you can install Chrome and then pin it to the home screen. Works like charm.
You can install Mesanger, WatsApp, Viber, Skype - they work.
I have download a Microsoft launcher. It has Cortana as voice assistant. Then Outlook app, which can import all the contacts and from your accounts (o365, Google, Hotmail, yahoo etc.)
With PUBG I had some issues installing it because except the apk has obb, may be I'll try later when I have some time. Fortnite is working like charm. Even with the back screen two additional buttons is like a cheat.
Things which I could not solve until now:
- Outlook cant import o365 mail hosted by GoDaddy.
- It seems that, a lot of applications rely on google services for the push notifications. If the app (let say Viber) is not running, you may not have popup notification on the lock screen. (If anyone knows how to solve that I'll be happy)
So, that's all. At the end you can live with the phone. I'm happy with it.
I hope that answers your question. If you have other questions - let me know
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How about updating/syncing contacts? I mean after retrieving them and i added a new contact entry. How do i update/sync that contact into google?
And for photos? Do i have to manually backup to pc or cloud since there's no google photos and no google drive?
Any other concerns i might have forgotten?
Edit:
Link to this thread you mentioned?
I used aptoide - the only google apps that seems to work is Google Chrome Browser and gmaps. youtube did not work through aptoide as didn't all the other google apps i tried. I placed a youtube home page using the chrome broswer on the desktop. Whatsapp apk i downloaded from their official website and installed working fine. When I downloaded whatsapp through aptoide and the chinese market app it won't work and keeps saying date and time is not right even though it is - maybe because its not chinese date and time?
For Contacts i opened my pc with chrome broswer and downloaded the contacts VCARD which you can do and placed in root folder of Nubia X - picked all my contacts up - I'm not sure how to sync though to google accounts as you cant add a google account through the phone unless you root as per other posts.
Pretty silly how they just didn't let you install gapps without root - i buy a lot of chinese phones and its the standard now even if google isnt preinstalled - its been a long time since I've seen a phone that doesn't let you install gapps yourself if you want too even though they dont support it. I'm finding it hard to use the phone and it will probably end up in a drawer for a few months until the international rom is released with google. Its annoying, even switching the phone off the voice assistant starts in Chinese and i want to get rid of this.
I've deleted practically all the bloatware, yet can't get music player to detect music i placed in the music folder.
Should have done my reading before hand but oh well... I got it for less than £495 from geekbuying 128gb version but should have waited out for the international rom version
Most of my good apps I downloaded through the Amazon App Store which is also working so I have 3 markets on my phone at the moment.