Unlock boot loader question - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

There are so many threads pertaining to certain situations and I can't quite decipher what to do with my situation so I'm going to ask.
I'm on shipping stock (1.72) but rooted. I have yet to unlock my boot loader.
I am very interested in upgrading to 1.85, but only want to do so if I can do everything to be able to flash roms through cwm.
I see that you can and you can't root 1.85 so I'm not sure if I should upgrade. I'm ok with waiting for a root method. But if I am able to right now I want to go ahead.
Any help is appreciated.

I am in the same situation as you are. I am on 1.73 rooted and not unlocked yet. From what I understand you can unlocked the bootloader on 1.73 and upgrade to 1.85 and still be able to root. I can not understand properly either and would like some clarification before I move forward. Check this out...
Smile How To Root An AT&T HTC One X for 1.85
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673935
After reading this I feel this is possible but would like confirmation. Thanks

Vocalshock said:
I am in the same situation as you are. I am on 1.73 rooted and not unlocked yet. From what I understand you can unlocked the bootloader on 1.73 and upgrade to 1.85 and still be able to root. I can not understand properly either and would like some clarification before I move forward. Check this out...
Smile How To Root An AT&T HTC One X for 1.85
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673935
After reading this I feel this is possible but would like confirmation. Thanks
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Yes, but isnt those directions out of order...cause dont you have to aquire root to unlock the bootloader?

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How do I prepare my phone for roms?

I need to root, unlock, and install CWM right? How exactly do I do this? I tried to locate a how to without any luck.
The dev section is filled with all the info you need to know.
Also, not trying to be a **** but saying you searched when it is obvious that you didn't will get you nowhere.
OK I've read some more and had a couple more questions...
I noticed that the roms I've looked at don't require an unlocked phone. What's the point of unlocking the phone then? Can I just root and install CWM?
Some roms say "needs the 1.85 base." What does this mean and how do I get it before flashing a rom?
Thanks!
johnl199 said:
OK I've read some more and had a couple more questions...
I noticed that the roms I've looked at don't require an unlocked phone. What's the point of unlocking the phone then? Can I just root and install CWM?
Some roms say "needs the 1.85 base." What does this mean and how do I get it before flashing a rom?
Thanks!
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Some of the roms, prior to the unlock discovery, were executable as an RUU. All the updated versions require recovery which you need the bootloader unlocked to get in to. It's a painless process and there's even a 1-Click script method for those who dont want to take chances.
Will I be able to get the phone back to COMPLETELY stock should I decide to sell it in the future?
From what I know it will say relocked or tampered but maybe I'm wrong
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
After unlocking your phone, there will be no way to get back to 100% stock unless we can get S-OFF (which hopefully may be in the near future due to a few devices already being S-OFF).
However, you can root your device and not unlock it (1.82 and prior as of now) and still be able to revert to 100% stock as if it came right out of the box.
Most of the ROMs currently do not require an unlocked bootloader.
However, this will definitely change as we begin to see custom kernels (hopefully soon with the release of the source by HTC Dev) and more complex ROMs (such as those based on AOSP, such as CM9 and AOKP).
So in short, you can still use most of the ROMs in the dev section. Just be aware however that if you do not unlock then you cannot install CWM (limiting the number of ROM options) and also if you update past 1.82.502.3 then you cannot root (at this time, other root exploits are being explored).
Is unlocking your bootloader the same as carrier unlocking your phone?
Does this mean that say, AT&T phones could be used on Tmobile?
lamenramen said:
Is unlocking your bootloader the same as carrier unlocking your phone?
Does this mean that say, AT&T phones could be used on Tmobile?
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Nope. You are thinking of SIM unlock.
Bootloader unlock lets you load custom ROMs and change recovery, that's all.

[Q] How to root 1.85 ?

Hi,
I have HTC One X with ATT. It's on 1.85 firmware. Is there any way to root it? I want to enable FM radio, NFC etc on the phone.
Please help if possible.
Regards,
Alex
hm.. i rooted before i was on 1.85, but there was a method in the forums i saw here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709424
another way u can achieve root, is if u unlock ur bootloader using ADB and just flash recovery from ADB, then u can flash a custom ROM that already has root. i'm no pro, but what i've learnt in the past few days may help u
just search the forums on how to unlock ur bootloader if u don't know how
Thank you very much for your quick reply.
I already looked for procedure to unlock the bootloader. But don't you think I need to be rooted to unlock the bootloader?
I am on 1.85 since I got HOX from ATT. As per my searches on XDA I think it was not possible to root 1.85 but I just wanted to check if someone found a way to do it.
Is there any way I can downgrade the firmware and root and upgrade back to 1.85 or to a custom ROM.
Regards,
Alex
Search harder. There is a STICKY in development for rooting 1.85 and like a thousand "how do I root 1.85?" threads in q+a all pointing to that same STICKIED thread.

HOX Root Help

Can someone help me out here? I've been trying to root my HOX running 2.20 and I have read many threads on how to root the HOX 2.20. But what I don't understand is that when I read a thread on rooting, it says to unlock the bootloader first. So I go to a thread on unlocking the bootloader because it can't be done through HTCDev. Those threads on unlocking the bootloader tell me I need to be rooted first. Nothing is making sense with all this.
iLToRReNT said:
Can someone help me out here? I've been trying to root my HOX running 2.20 and I have read many threads on how to root the HOX 2.20. But what I don't understand is that when I read a thread on rooting, it says to unlock the bootloader first. So I go to a thread on unlocking the bootloader because it can't be done through HTCDev. Those threads on unlocking the bootloader tell me I need to be rooted first. Nothing is making sense with all this.
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your on 2.20 there is not working method to root in 2.20 atm and this is in the wrong section should be on Q&A
How do these even get to the dev section? Read the Q&A and general sections and all would be answered.
Lol yeah sorry just read a bit and you'll see 2.20 out of the box is a no go
IB4TL
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Dude, based on your post history, you've had this phone for 2 months and you still haven't figured out this basic information???
On any other version of the One X besides the AT&T version, the carriers are allowing the bootloader to be unlocked. For those versions, you just go to HTCDev.com, unlock the bootloader. Then you can flash a custom recovery, and use that to flash a rooted ROM to obtain root.
The AT&T version is a different situation. AT&T is blocking the bootloader from being unlocked. Therefore, the only way to unlock the bootloader is to spoof the carrier ID (CID) and make it SuperCID (basically a "god mode" CID that bypasses the CID check). With SuperCID, you can use HTCDev.com to unlock the bootloader. Unfortunately, getting SuperCID requires root. So its a bit of a backwards situation from other versions (any version but AT&T). For them, its unlock bootloader then root. For AT&T, its root then unlock bootloader.
If you are looking at root guides that say unlock the bootloader, then root; you are looking at guides for other versions of the phone. Either Rogers, Telstra (other carrier versions of the Snapdragon S4 version), or worse, you are looking at guides for the international (Tegra3) version of the One X. Either way, stick to information that specifically for AT&T, or you may do irreparable damage to your phone.
For 2.20 firmware, no root method has yet been found. So you're stuck with no root and no unlocked bootloader until one of the following happens:
1) A root method is found
2) AT&T allows the bootloader to be unlocked via HTCDev.com
3) S-Off is acheived

[Q] Can i update my firmware to 2.20

Hi Guys
Sorry for asking the same old question again..
I just got my AT&t HTC One x from US shipped over to India by my cousin.
It is locked to AT&t and i am unable to use a local network sim in it
I know i need to root it and turn S-off in order to unlock it.
The phone is on Firmware 1.85? and i have tried the ways mentioned in xda to root it but i guess when i click "Check for updates" it doesn't work.
So my question is
Can i manually by connecting the phone to Computer,update firmware to 2.20 so that i can root it that way?
And is it possible to unlock the BOOTLOADER w/out rooting so that phone gets unlocked to other carriers?
please help me out guys i have tried everything to make it work.. thank you
Unlocking the bootloader/rooting/dancing in circles WILL NOT sim unlock the phone.
You will need to use an online sim unlocking service (usually about 20 bucks) to get the unlock code
Currently, S-Off has not been achieved for this phone. And as already mentioned, bootloader unlock will not get you SIM unlock, and no free hack/mod method currently exists. You either need to use a paid unlock service, or if your cousin is currently an AT&T account holder, he can ask AT&T for the SIM unlock code (he will need the IMEI number of the phone, and maybe other info).
If you want root and unlocked bootloader for other reasons (flashing custom ROMs and other mods) there is no reason to upgrade to 2.20. Root method exists for 1.85. You need to root, SuperCID, then unlock the bootloader. Then you can install a custom recovery and flash custom ROMs.
Upgrading to 2.20 is not recommended. The 2.20 RUU will upgrade your hboot, which plugs the holes by which kernels and radios can be flashed from recovery. You will have to flash the boot.img separately every time your flash a ROM. No benefit to updating to 2.20, and actually lose ability to do some things.
If you still want root and bootloader unlock, refer to my index for links to root methods, etc.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
And no, bootloader unlock is not possible without root (temp root in case of 2.20) on the AT&T One X.
area51avenger said:
Unlocking the bootloader/rooting/dancing in circles WILL NOT sim unlock the phone.
You will need to use an online sim unlocking service (usually about 20 bucks) to get the unlock code
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Dancing in circles? ok got your point.
redpoint73 said:
Currently, S-Off has not been achieved for this phone. And as already mentioned, bootloader unlock will not get you SIM unlock, and no free hack/mod method currently exists. You either need to use a paid unlock service, or if your cousin is currently an AT&T account holder, he can ask AT&T for the SIM unlock code (he will need the IMEI number of the phone, and maybe other info).
If you want root and unlocked bootloader for other reasons (flashing custom ROMs and other mods) there is no reason to upgrade to 2.20. Root method exists for 1.85. You need to root, SuperCID, then unlock the bootloader. Then you can install a custom recovery and flash custom ROMs.
Upgrading to 2.20 is not recommended. The 2.20 RUU will upgrade your hboot, which plugs the holes by which kernels and radios can be flashed from recovery. You will have to flash the boot.img separately every time your flash a ROM. No benefit to updating to 2.20, and actually lose ability to do some things.
If you still want root and bootloader unlock, refer to my index for links to root methods, etc.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
And no, bootloader unlock is not possible without root (temp root in case of 2.20) on the AT&T One X.
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Thank you for a detailed answer. The reason i though it would unlock the sim was cause i had used other htc phones earlier and when you root them the S-off was achieved so thats why.. anyhow.. thank you for enlightening my dumb bum.
You're not dumb. Just ignorant. Now you have been enlightened. You still have a great phone, you just might have to pay a little bit so you can unlock and use it
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
area51avenger said:
You're not dumb. Just ignorant.
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The word "ignorant" has always sounded like a pejorative word to me. But I had to look up the definition, figuring maybe I don't really know the literal meaning of the word. Which turned out to be the case. One of the definitions of ignorant is "Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular" which seems to exactly fit this situation. I guess I gave myself the English lesson for the day!
Every phone is different, and HTC in particular is always changing around their security measures. So the OP is not dumb in any way, but was just missing some particular pieces of information.

Can't unlock bootloader

Hi all,
I'm trying to get the unlock token at htcdev and I keep getting this message after I submit the copied txt from the fastboot result.
"Error code: 172. Error reason: CID not allowed (MID not exist in model rule)."
PLEASE... any help would be most appreciated.
System info:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/2wrw5rjia39a43l,7tbtdftnp8goph8,1e1h80ub7q1bhq8/shared
Assuming you're in the right forums (Verizon HTC M8), you can't use HTCdev to unlock the phone. Thee only way to unlock the Verizon version of the phone is through a 3rd party unlock method, that was created by jcase and his team, called Sunshine. Here's their website for thee unlock: http://theroot.ninja/
Hi… Thanks for the speedy reply.
That's my my second dilemma. Root is a requirement and towel root isn't working either. So, I'm running in circles. I can't use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader because its not rooted and I can't root it because I can't unlock the bootloader.
RuLEoF2 said:
Hi all,
I'm trying to get the unlock token at htcdev and I keep getting this message after I submit the copied txt from the fastboot result.
"Error code: 172. Error reason: CID not allowed (MID not exist in model rule)."
PLEASE... any help would be most appreciated.
System info:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/2wrw5rjia39a43l,7tbtdftnp8goph8,1e1h80ub7q1bhq8/shared
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You cannot unlock you're boot loader. You have vzw 4.4.4 firmware. Sunshine doesn't work on that yet. You are S.O.L. until they update.
Sorry.
Does it work on 4.4.3?
I'm only asking because I've having an issue with my screen and I was planning on taking it back to exchange it. When I got this one, it had 4.4.3 on it and then I got the 4.4.4 OTA. it's a gamble, but if the new phone still has 4.4.3 on it, then I can just dodged the OTA and try sunshine on that one.
RuLEoF2 said:
Hi… Thanks for the speedy reply.
That's my my second dilemma. Root is a requirement and towel root isn't working either. So, I running in circles. I can't use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader because its not rooted and I can't root it because I can't unlock the bootloader.
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Sunshine does everything. Except if your phone is up to date, you can't do anything cause nothing works for the 4.4.4 vzw m8
RuLEoF2 said:
Hi… Thanks for the speedy reply.
That's my my second dilemma. Root is a requirement and towel root isn't working either. So, I'm running in circles. I can't use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader because its not rooted and I can't root it because I can't unlock the bootloader.
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silver04v said:
Sunshine does everything. Except if your phone is up to date, you can't do anything cause nothing works for the 4.4.4 vzw m8
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RuLEoF2 said:
Does it work on 4.4.3?
I'm only asking because I've having an issue with my screen and I was planning on taking it back to exchange it. When I got this one, it had 4.4.3 on it and then I got the 4.4.4 OTA. it's a gamble, but if the new phone still has 4.4.3 on it, then I can just dodged the OTA and try sunshine on that one.
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Ok. So, does sunshine work on 4.4.3?
In any case, the sunshie web page says that root is required but I can't root it.
Root is required and yes it will work on 4.4.3. Sunshine has a temp root utility built in to the program so it is all in one system.
RuLEoF2 said:
Hi… Thanks for the speedy reply.
That's my my second dilemma. Root is a requirement and towel root isn't working either. So, I'm running in circles. I can't use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader because its not rooted and I can't root it because I can't unlock the bootloader.
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zax10 said:
Root is required and yes it will work on 4.4.3. Sunshine has a temp root utility built in to the program so it is all in one system.
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Very good. Thank you for the clarification.
RuLEoF2 said:
Very good. Thank you for the clarification.
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1 more thing to clarify, I have a Verizon M7, and TowelRoot DOES work, there's just a hidden trick for our phones.... Tap the welcome/ intro msg that appears when u open the towelroot app (i believe I had to tap 3 times) and a string of numbers appears , u change the last number from a 0 to a 1 and then it works for our phones. It's not needed for sunshine, but for ppl who wanna take the shortcut after sunshine of just downloading and using flashify to flash recovery (root or temp root required) it works. It was Towelroot V3 I believe. I'm on 4.4.3 sense 6 m7, and I know it worked on 4.4.2 when everyone was saying it didn't work, so if it's something u wanna look into, give it a try. Even the website I believe said it didn't"officially" support our phones, but after doing that trick, it does
bdizzle1686 said:
1 more thing to clarify, I have a Verizon M7, and TowelRoot DOES work, there's just a hidden trick for our phones.... Tap the welcome/ intro msg that appears when u open the towelroot app (i believe I had to tap 3 times) and a string of numbers appears , u change the last number from a 0 to a 1 and then it works for our phones. It's not needed for sunshine, but for ppl who wanna take the shortcut after sunshine of just downloading and using flashify to flash recovery (root or temp root required) it works. It was Towelroot V3 I believe. I'm on 4.4.3 sense 6 m7, and I know it worked on 4.4.2 when everyone was saying it didn't work, so if it's something u wanna look into, give it a try. Even the website I believe said it didn't"officially" support our phones, but after doing that trick, it does
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Sounds risky.
RuLEoF2 said:
Sounds risky.
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Wrong phone too. I would stick to sunshine. Cost $$ but comes with support if needed.
The Stig 04 said:
Wrong phone too. I would stick to sunshine. Cost $$ but comes with support if needed.
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Good point.
bdizzle1686, thanks for the tip but I think I'll wait.
RuLEoF2 said:
Good point.
bdizzle1686, thanks for the tip but I think I'll wait.
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Not a problem, and yeah it probably does pose some risks, just figured I'd let ya know. Alotta ppl just see that the app doesn't"officially" support any of the htc one phones and take that as fact when it's really not true. I did it with my phone n haven't had a problem, but had I known at the time the risks of doing it that way pose, I probably wouldn't have done it that way
Ok… please forgive my frustration but can someone please explain to me how rooting this phone works… or doesn't work.
I rooted my HTC Incredible and my Rezound with ease. I got pretty comfortable with adb so I went on flashing roms and other mods. They were so easy but now everything seems to be so complicated with this phone.
I'm going nuts trying to understand these confusing threads where it sounds like you need to root the phone in order to root the phone. Even though they don't work, I see instructions to use firewater, towelroot or weaksause so that you can use sunshine. I read where someone was asking for help because sunshine wouldn't work and they couldn't figure it out because the phone was already unlocked, rooted and s-off. ,isn't that what sunshine does… unlock, root and s-off?
My HTC One M8 is bone stock, off-the-shelf with kitkat 4.4.4.
What do I need to use sunshine, now with 2.7.1 or later with 3.0?
Can I use an RUU to downgrade to 4.4.3 so that sunshine 2.7.1 will work?
Is sunshine REALLY the only way that works… or doesn't work (right now)?
Thank you in advance for your help and your patience.
RuLEoF2 said:
Ok… please forgive my frustration but can someone please explain to me how rooting this phone works… or doesn't work.
I rooted my HTC Incredible and my Rezound with ease. I got pretty comfortable with adb so I went on flashing roms and other mods. They were so easy but now everything seems to be so complicated with this phone.
I'm going nuts trying to understand these confusing threads where it sounds like you need to root the phone in order to root the phone. Even though they don't work, I see instructions to use firewater, towelroot or weaksause so that you can use sunshine. I read where someone was asking for help because sunshine wouldn't work and they couldn't figure it out because the phone was already unlocked, rooted and s-off. ,isn't that what sunshine does… unlock, root and s-off?
My HTC One M8 is bone stock, off-the-shelf with kitkat 4.4.4.
What do I need to use sunshine, now with 2.7.1 or later with 3.0?
Can I use an RUU to downgrade to 4.4.3 so that sunshine 2.7.1 will work?
Is sunshine REALLY the only way that works… or doesn't work (right now)?
Thank you in advance for your help and your patience.
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If you're bone stock S-ON with 4.4.4 then you cannot root the phone yet. Probably won't be able to till early January when the new sunshine is released.
If you're bone stock S-OFF on 4.4.4 all you need to do is flash a custom recovery and then flash the latest SuperSU zip file.
RuLEoF2 said:
Ok… please forgive my frustration but can someone please explain to me how rooting this phone works… or doesn't work.
I rooted my HTC Incredible and my Rezound with ease. I got pretty comfortable with adb so I went on flashing roms and other mods. They were so easy but now everything seems to be so complicated with this phone.
I'm going nuts trying to understand these confusing threads where it sounds like you need to root the phone in order to root the phone. Even though they don't work, I see instructions to use firewater, towelroot or weaksause so that you can use sunshine. I read where someone was asking for help because sunshine wouldn't work and they couldn't figure it out because the phone was already unlocked, rooted and s-off. ,isn't that what sunshine does… unlock, root and s-off?
My HTC One M8 is bone stock, off-the-shelf with kitkat 4.4.4.
What do I need to use sunshine, now with 2.7.1 or later with 3.0?
Can I use an RUU to downgrade to 4.4.3 so that sunshine 2.7.1 will work?
Is sunshine REALLY the only way that works… or doesn't work (right now)?
Thank you in advance for your help and your patience.
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.... and to ease your confusion: What a lot of people get mixed up is
temp root with weaksauce + firewater worked for some devices on 4.4.2 (hardware variants making the difference).
For those 4.4.2 weaksauce+firewater did not work and all 4.4.3 M8s there's only Sunshine (and it temp-roots the device in the process)
4.4.4: beaups announced they are shooting for a first week of January release for Sunshine 3
And no, you cannot downgrade to 4.3 with S-on.
Time to try your luck with the new weaksauce and sunshine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ncluding-4-t2971591/post57462117#post57462117
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Time to try your luck with the new weaksauce and sunshine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ncluding-4-t2971591/post57462117#post57462117
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That worked! Bootloader is now UNLOCKED and S-OFF. Thank you!! I must have had the earlier version of weaksause.
Still no root though. SuperSU keeps failing when I try to update the binary online and my desktop is out of commision so no recovery yet either. I've got a new desktop on the way which should be here by the end of the week.
Is there anything I can try in the meantime?
RuLEoF2 said:
That worked! Bootloader is now UNLOCKED and S-OFF. Thank you!! I must have had the earlier version of weaksause.
Still no root though. SuperSU keeps failing when I try to update the binary online and my desktop is out of commision so no recovery yet either. I've got a new desktop on the way which should be here by the end of the week.
Is there anything I can try in the meantime?
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You can download from the play store the app called flashify to put a custom recovery on since no CPU right now u said, then you can download thesuperSU.zip llatest from XDA and flash it in said custom recovery. That should get you rooted.

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