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I use jabra and if I have the phone in my pocket, the sound gets tons of static, my a2dp headset tends to skip when the phone is in my pocket, out of the pocket it works perfectly, if I put the phone behind me, thus my body is in between the headset and the phone, i also get tons of static even though the distance is 20 inches.
I tested my 3125 smartphone against the Touch cruise and the 3125 range was three times farther then the touch cruse. Back to mobileplanet this heap of **** goes.
Tupac_Shakur said:
I use jabra and if I have the phone in my pocket, the sound gets tons of static, my a2dp headset tends to skip when the phone is in my pocket, out of the pocket it works perfectly, if I put the phone behind me, thus my body is in between the headset and the phone, i also get tons of static even though the distance is 20 inches.
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The radio stack on the test ROM makes a HUGE difference
I have the same issue even with the new radio--bluetooth strength much weaker than my old trinity. Wonder if there is a registry setting to boost the signal?
this phone is brutal, with 3g and bluetooth on, I drop calls like no tommorrow,it seems when driving it is even worse. I seen it where it has perfect signal and for no apparent reason, it drops the call. It just gives me three faint beeps when it disconnects. I don't know what it means, also these phones are not assembled well. this sucks for 700 dollar phone, I did try the new radio also, it didn't make no difference other then I didn't get disconnected on 3g as much but bluetooth still sucked, my 3125 I measured again has 3 times the range,just having your hand in between the phone and the headset gets you lot of static on the headset. I sent mine back today. Bluetooth is critical to me,I figure HTC would at least get the bluetooth right but I guess they are a mess right now with all their issues. Hoping to get hp 614 instead.
I am using the Jabra BT3030, works like a charm. This is with the default rom.
Plantronics Explorer 510 here. Absolutely perfect sound.
Parrot MK6100 car HF set. Crap, thin sound reported on the other side. Low volume.
To be more specific- both sony ds200 and itech r35 have good sound, no static but the range is very poor and easily blocked by a human body. The sony sound is much better probably because its bluetooth 2 with a better data rate. The a2dp (only with the sony) needs the "a2dp fix" and a fresh reboot before using in order not to have the drop outs. All told, not much different than with my trinity but with less range. Very disappointing considering price and another year to perfect the system. HTC really does need to work on the drivers and software before selling the device. The average user is not going to go to all this trouble and will be very letdown.
I've been having bluetooth problems with this phone since day 1 & I'm wondering if it's just my phone or if anyone else is having the same experience. No matter what rom or headset I use, I get a craptastic connection. I don't have any problems pairing devices, but I can't get 10 feet away from the phone without it disconnecting and I can't even turn my head without the audio cutting out. It also randomly disconnects for no reason & sometimes won't reconnect until I reboot. This has happened with every rom I've tried & every headset too. I've bought & returned multiple headsets thinking it was just my Blueant, but it happens with every one.
Could I have a faulty unit or does the bluetooth on this phone really suck this bad? I listen to podcasts & music all day long at work so I need to have a decent connection. Opinions needed please.
I think it may be a bad phone.
I have and used the following bluetooth devices:
Plantronics 590A
Jawbone Icon and Era
BlueAnt S4 which I use in the car. And auto connects before I sit down to drive when I have it on.
Sony Ericsson MW600
And Jabra Pro 9470 (office phone setup that connects to my phone via bt)
All connects without a problem. Have you done a titanium backup and perform a factory reset? And after the reset use titanium backup to restore app and data only and leave the system settings alone. You can restore the wifi stuff if you like. From there that's like a fresh install. Hope that works for you.
Yeah I've done many, many wipes & fresh installs & nothing helps. I don't have any problems connecting, I just have problems STAYING connected & listening to audio. It cuts out constantly without me even touching the phone. I've never had such shoddy bluetooth on any other device.
*sigh* Looks like I may be doing an exchange...
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Yeah I've done many, many wipes & fresh installs & nothing helps. I don't have any problems connecting, I just have problems STAYING connected & listening to audio. It cuts out constantly without me even touching the phone. I've never had such shoddy bluetooth on any other device.
*sigh* Looks like I may be doing an exchange...
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Well before leaving the store...if you are going to a brick and mortar to do the exchange, bring the bt headset with you and try it out there and try to replicate the problem with a new phone.
I do not have range problems but I don't usually have my phone more than 5 ft way from me when talking on it via bt.
I have a replacement on the way for bluetooth problems,people complained of a horrid background noise and the range was maybe 8 feet before major static would kick in
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I have a replacement on the way for bluetooth problems,people complained of a horrid background noise and the range was maybe 8 feet before major static would kick in
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My BT sounds like crap! People say it sounds like I'm in a wind tunnel or they can't hear me that well, when they speak to me it cuts in and out.
This is when I connect to my Parrot BT in my truck. I know its not the Parrot system because my HD2 works fine with it.
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My BT sounds like crap! People say it sounds like I'm in a wind tunnel or they can't hear me that well, when they speak to me it cuts in and out.
This is when I connect to my Parrot BT in my truck. I know its not the Parrot system because my HD2 works fine with it.
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I have a Dual car stereo & now that I think about it, everyone says they can't hear me even though I installed the mic on the side column & it's no more than a foot from my face at any time. Aargh this is so annoying. Freaking $600 phone & my damn $25 RAZR from Big Lots has better bluetooth.
If I bring it to the store, would they exchange it for me? I ordered it directly from T-Mobile, I didn't get it in a store.
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I have a Dual car stereo & now that I think about it, everyone says they can't hear me even though I installed the mic on the side column & it's no more than a foot from my face at any time. Aargh this is so annoying. Freaking $600 phone & my damn $25 RAZR from Big Lots has better bluetooth.
If I bring it to the store, would they exchange it for me? I ordered it directly from T-Mobile, I didn't get it in a store.
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No you will have to call T-Mobile and do a warranty exchange. I have no problems with BT on my phone at all.
http://androidforums.com/htc-sensation-4g/375199-white-noise-bluetooth-htc-sensation-4g.html
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/133/p/12494/52795.aspx
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184936
a few threads about bluetooth problems
So whats the deal? Has anyone been able to fix the BT problems with this phone yet?
Can we flash a different BT.apk file or something?
Somebody by now should have some answers I would think.
My parrot system in my truck suck ass with this phone. Always cutting in and out.
Streaming audio is fine its the talking to people I'm have problems with.
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So whats the deal? Has anyone been able to fix the BT problems with this phone yet?
Can we flash a different BT.apk file or something?
Somebody by now should have some answers I would think.
My parrot system in my truck suck ass with this phone. Always cutting in and out.
Streaming audio is fine its the talking to people I'm have problems with.
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I use this with my blueant s4 without an issue and experience no cutting in and out. However, I have been running MIUI and now running sense-o-maniac 3.5 and I have no issues.
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I use this with my blueant s4 without an issue and experience no cutting in and out. However, I have been running MIUI and now running sense-o-maniac 3.5 and I have no issues.
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MIUI / Sense-o-maniac 3.5?
I'm running the latest ARHD w/sense 3.5
horrid bluetooth sound quality
it seems a lot of people have been having issues with the bluetooth sound quality. i have mine paired with a motorola HF850 car kit, which has bluetooth v1.1, or something like that. i wonder if the problem is with backward compatibility, as people seem not to have as many issues with newer devices. would flashing a different radio potentiall help this problem? is it possible to downgrade the bluetooth version with a custom ROM? any other thoughts on ways to address this issue?
This is my review of the LG HBS 730 headset with the Nexus 4 Android 4.2.2
Overall, I would rate this device a 9/10 and suggest anyone with a Nexus 4 or Nexus 7 buy it if they're looking for a stereo headset.
My previous headset: Motorokr S9HD
Great headset, loved it, and sturdy. One problem... If you run long distances (and sweat a lot) it dies on you. When i run, I run anywhere between 5km to 13km, and the sweating from the 13km runs pretty much kill the S9 within 2 months. I know, I had it replaced 3 times
Pros:
- Good distance with Nexus 4. There have been times that I walk 10 feet away from my phone without a single issue with audio quality
- Very good battery life. Charges very quickly and takes a while to run out. I've used it for 8hrs and the device still only reports "medium"
- Buttons: All work as expected. I can raise and lower the volume, skip tracks, etc. without a problem. I've tried it on the default music app for the Nexus 4, doubletwist, and pandora. They all work perfectly
- Connection: Always connects. I simply turn on my N4 and my HBS730 and 10/10 it always connects
- Multitasking: While using the device, I also using various apps, like JeFit, GMAIL. whatsapp, etc. and it doesn't stutter.
Cons:
-When running fast, 12km/hr, the device bounces and I question if it'll come off. It hasn't, but I do question it.
- Magnets, they're weak. The ear pieces constantly come off. If you lay them down, they'll stay on, but put them in a backpack and they ear pieces will come off the magnets. Not a big deal.
Apt-X, I can confirm that the Nexus 4 does NOT include Apt-X.
Overall, if you're into cardio excersices or exercise long distances, you'll really appreciate this headset. I've also used this devices with my Nexus 7. I use it mostly for reading and listening to music. The nexus is never more than 3 feet away from the device. It always works perfectly.
I've had this headset for a month now. I'm coming from the LG HBS-700. I've noticed that the audio doesn't sound too good if the volume is all the way up on the Nexus 4. It sounds much better if you control the volume from the headset. I never had this issue with the 700's. I think it's due to the lack of apt-X.
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
I've had this headset for a month now. I'm coming from the LG HBS-700. I've noticed that the audio doesn't sound too good if the volume is all the way up on the Nexus 4. It sounds much better if you control the volume from the headset. I never had this issue with the 700's. I think it's due to the lack of apt-X.
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How was HBS-700 on Nexus 4 for you? I'm planning to purchase, but the reviews on HBS-730 aren't as positive as for HBS-700.
i am also planning to take bluetooth headset and
confused between hbs 700 and hbs 730
can u guys advice me which one should i purchase
i wont b using it for running or during excercise, just for listning music while going to office and home
I had the HBS-700 for about a year, loved it, used it almost every day at work, anywhere from 1-6 hours per day. Used it for working out. I didn't baby it one bit, and it was still going strong when I lost it. This was when I had a Galaxy Nexus.
I suffered for about a month before I finally broke down and replaced with the HBS-730 in early January. I can report that I don't have many connectivity issues as reported on the Amazon reviews, so perhaps the Nexus 4 just works better than some phones. I can still get nearly 30 feet away before it starts to break up... usually. The odd thing is that the sound will occasionally break up while I'm out for a run or other times when the phone is less than a body length away. This did happen on occassion with the HBS-700 and Galaxy Nexus, but seems to be slightly more with the 730. Not apples to apples, but I can say that it isn't enough to bother me, and the distortion only lasts a second or so before going back to normal. I think iPhones have some serious issues with this set but so far my Nexus 4 is all good.
Last week, my boss found my old HBS-700 behind a filing cabinet. How it got there I have no idea. I tested it for a night before selling it to another coworker, and did find that the 730 has better sound quality (or I should say, a sound quality that I prefer). As someone else mentioned, the bass will sometimes distort at high volumes, but you can turn off the bass boost which is on by default. There are three EQ settings (Bass boost/ Normal/ Treble Boost). Default is Bass boost. To change, press both + and - volume buttons and you'll hear a beep to confirm (first beep = Normal, 2nd = Treble, 3rd brings you back to Bass Boost...) You have to do this each time you turn on the headset, but I find the default bass boost is fine for most songs and will only change the EQ if I am getting distortion. (edit: to clarify, only the 730 has the EQ feature, the 700 only has one setting but I did not have any bass distortion issues)
I've had both models yanked off my neck by just the thin earbud cord several times, hard enough to the point I was sure something would break. I've sweated all over them. I've taken them to the beach. The only issue I have ever had was losing one of the small plastic clips that let you adjust the amount of cord between the set and the earbud on my set of 700's, and those aren't really even needed. Oh yeah, and even after a year of good use, I don't think I ever managed to use a fully charged battery in a single day with my 700's. Like the OP said, the battery on these things is great.
I purchased the 700's for my sister and for her boyfriend last year for Christmas. They are converts now as well.
So yeah, I love both models, recommend them both, but after listening to both side by side, I would have to recommend the 730 for the higher sound quality. Buy from Amazon so you can return if you have issues with the connection, but I think you will likely be pleased either way.
OH YEAH!! HOW DID YOU FORGET TO MENTION THE VIBRATION?! The neckpiece vibrates on incoming calls, so even if you have the earbuds stored in the headset and phone on silent you get your notifications. So simple, but so useful.
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How was HBS-700 on Nexus 4 for you? I'm planning to purchase, but the reviews on HBS-730 aren't as positive as for HBS-700.
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Worked great until it broke! Lasted me a little over a year, but I really abused it! Went on many, many sweaty runs with it, and wore it to the gym 4-5 times a week. I also wore it to school everyday. Money well spent.
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As someone else mentioned, the bass will sometimes distort at high volumes, but you can turn off the bass boost which is on by default. There are three EQ settings (Bass boost/ Normal/ Treble Boost). Default is Bass boost. To change, press both + and - volume buttons and you'll hear a beep to confirm (first beep = Normal, 2nd = Treble, 3rd brings you back to Bass Boost...) You have to do this each time you turn on the headset, but I find the default bass boost is fine for most songs and will only change the EQ if I am getting distortion. (edit: to clarify, only the 730 has the EQ feature, the 700 only has one setting but I did not have any bass distortion issues)
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Woah! Thank you so much! I did not know that! I was wondering why bass would sound distorted sometimes. You just saved me from having to return my 730's!
It would be awesome though if you didn't need to set it again whenever you turn the headset on, but it's whatever I guess.
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Worked great until it broke! Lasted me a little over a year, but I really abused it! Went on many, many sweaty runs with it, and wore it to the gym 4-5 times a week. I also wore it to school everyday. Money well spent.
Woah! Thank you so much! I did not know that! I was wondering why bass would sound distorted sometimes. You just saved me from having to return my 730's!
It would be awesome though if you didn't need to set it again whenever you turn the headset on, but it's whatever I guess.
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I have experienced the too high of a bass issue too. I also wonder if my audio files are also the culprit, meaning the quality should be better.... Who knows.
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I have the Tone+ and I love them and this is coming from someone who HATES earbuds. These things sound amazing with DSP Manager by the way.
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coolqf said:
This is my review of the LG HBS 730 headset with the Nexus 4 Android 4.2.2
Overall, I would rate this device a 9/10 and suggest anyone with a Nexus 4 or Nexus 7 buy it if they're looking for a stereo headset.
My previous headset: Motorokr S9HD
Great headset, loved it, and sturdy. One problem... If you run long distances (and sweat a lot) it dies on you. When i run, I run anywhere between 5km to 13km, and the sweating from the 13km runs pretty much kill the S9 within 2 months. I know, I had it replaced 3 times
Pros:
- Good distance with Nexus 4. There have been times that I walk 10 feet away from my phone without a single issue with audio quality
- Very good battery life. Charges very quickly and takes a while to run out. I've used it for 8hrs and the device still only reports "medium"
- Buttons: All work as expected. I can raise and lower the volume, skip tracks, etc. without a problem. I've tried it on the default music app for the Nexus 4, doubletwist, and pandora. They all work perfectly
- Connection: Always connects. I simply turn on my N4 and my HBS730 and 10/10 it always connects
- Multitasking: While using the device, I also using various apps, like JeFit, GMAIL. whatsapp, etc. and it doesn't stutter.
Cons:
-When running fast, 12km/hr, the device bounces and I question if it'll come off. It hasn't, but I do question it.
- Magnets, they're weak. The ear pieces constantly come off. If you lay them down, they'll stay on, but put them in a backpack and they ear pieces will come off the magnets. Not a big deal.
Apt-X, I can confirm that the Nexus 4 does NOT include Apt-X.
Overall, if you're into cardio excersices or exercise long distances, you'll really appreciate this headset. I've also used this devices with my Nexus 7. I use it mostly for reading and listening to music. The nexus is never more than 3 feet away from the device. It always works perfectly.
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Hi, may I know the is it good for phone talking too, both sides can hear clearly ?
It's important to me, thanks !
Excellent
andycmc said:
Hi, may I know the is it good for phone talking too, both sides can hear clearly ?
It's important to me, thanks !
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Thanks to all of the positive reviews in this thread, I finally purchased the HBS 730 model from Amazon (the white version), and I love everything about. It works flowlessly with Nexus 4, though I still haven't been able to connect it to my Windows 8 laptop, but that's a Dell/Windows driver issue.
And I was impressed that most notifications actually come as a voice through the headphones, not as LED lights or something like that. E.g. when you turn on the headphone, a pleasant lady voice will say the battery volume and whether it's connected or waiting to be paired.
The voice during phone calls is clear for both sides (at least haven't had any complaints expresses) and the overall experience is much better than with my wired headphones that came with Nexus S.
The range is working much better for me - I was concerned about various issues expressed on Amazon about connection getting lost when turning the head or moving 4 feet away. For me, I can walk away to around 15-20 feet with 2 walls in between and the connection is still on.
Works great in the gym where you don't have to fiddle with wires. I still take it off sometimes when I do bench presses, so the headset doesn't fall off or when doing something like shoulder presses where the bar may touch the headset.
BTW, there's an app on the Play Store which reads out the text messages and the sender's name through the headphones - kind of cool if you mainly receive texts in English (though some other languages are supported too). It's called BT Reader.
I didn't have much bass-distortion issue, but that's because I don't listen on the max volume (headsets have separate volume control than the phone). Sometimes when I accidentally turn on to the max there is distortion, but I don't actually listen that loud. And the DSP Manager which comes with Cyanogenmod is quite helpful as it has separate settings for Bluetooth.
My only pet-peeves is the pulsating light around the call button - I don't know why it pulsates and don't know how to turn that off. I don't see the light anyway when the headphones are in use, but I'm pretty sure other people notice and fix their eyes on headphones/me for a while
All in all, it's an awesome, well designed, well thought-through headphones.
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Thanks to all of the positive reviews in this thread, I finally purchased the HBS 730 model from Amazon (the white version), and I love everything about. It works flowlessly with Nexus 4, though I still haven't been able to connect it to my Windows 8 laptop, but that's a Dell/Windows driver issue.
And I was impressed that most notifications actually come as a voice through the headphones, not as LED lights or something like that. E.g. when you turn on the headphone, a pleasant lady voice will say the battery volume and whether it's connected or waiting to be paired.
The voice during phone calls is clear for both sides (at least haven't had any complaints expresses) and the overall experience is much better than with my wired headphones that came with Nexus S.
The range is working much better for me - I was concerned about various issues expressed on Amazon about connection getting lost when turning the head or moving 4 feet away. For me, I can walk away to around 15-20 feet with 2 walls in between and the connection is still on.
Works great in the gym where you don't have to fiddle with wires. I still take it off sometimes when I do bench presses, so the headset doesn't fall off or when doing something like shoulder presses where the bar may touch the headset.
BTW, there's an app on the Play Store which reads out the text messages and the sender's name through the headphones - kind of cool if you mainly receive texts in English (though some other languages are supported too). It's called BT Reader.
I didn't have much bass-distortion issue, but that's because I don't listen on the max volume (headsets have separate volume control than the phone). Sometimes when I accidentally turn on to the max there is distortion, but I don't actually listen that loud. And the DSP Manager which comes with Cyanogenmod is quite helpful as it has separate settings for Bluetooth.
My only pet-peeves is the pulsating light around the call button - I don't know why it pulsates and don't know how to turn that off. I don't see the light anyway when the headphones are in use, but I'm pretty sure other people notice and fix their eyes on headphones/me for a while
All in all, it's an awesome, well designed, well thought-through headphones.
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I have to take it off when I do my front squats
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I like it a lot, just want to know if I can disable the play button on the headset. I rarely use my phone for music, and I often hit the button that starts my music. would love to be able to turn that feature off.
Got mine stolen 2 weeks ago -_-
I've had the HBS-700 for 1-1/2 years and used it at the gym and for running. One of the best headsets I've ever owned let alone seen out there. I'm going to keep mine until it breaks but I'll tell you that I will always go for this type of headset in the future. I hardly use the bass boost (like someone said hold down vol+&- at the same time to turn on).
I've never had problems accidentally hitting the play music button but I'm pretty sure you cannot disable it, at least on mine. The one thing I wish I could disable is the light that blinks constantly. Not sure if you can on the 730. If I need to check battery status, I simply hold down the vol down button for a couple seconds and you get a steady light: blue for full battery, purple for medium, and red for low. Just read the online manual or the one that came with your headset to find all the tips and features.
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I've had the HBS-700 for 1-1/2 years and used it at the gym and for running. One of the best headsets I've ever owned let alone seen out there. I'm going to keep mine until it breaks but I'll tell you that I will always go for this type of headset in the future. I hardly use the bass boost (like someone said hold down vol+&- at the same time to turn on).
I've never had problems accidentally hitting the play music button but I'm pretty sure you cannot disable it, at least on mine. The one thing I wish I could disable is the light that blinks constantly. Not sure if you can on the 730. If I need to check battery status, I simply hold down the vol down button for a couple seconds and you get a steady light: blue for full battery, purple for medium, and red for low. Just read the online manual or the one that came with your headset to find all the tips and features.
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I've had the HBS-700 and the HBS-730. I really miss them. lol
FatalityBoyZahy said:
I've had the HBS-700 and the HBS-730. I really miss them. lol
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What happened to them?
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What happened to them?
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My 700's broke and my 730's got stolen.
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My 700's broke and my 730's got stolen.
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That sux!
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Got mine today, and modded it slightly to get better sound and noise isolation.
Using my old E4C, fitted it with a socket (like those being used by the current Shure SE series). The original earbuds have been cut off, replaced by a Shure plug. I also tried fitting my SE535 on it, which is a bit of an overkill, but it works nonetheless.
The stock cable/wire from the HBS-730 is a bit on the flimsy side, but does the job for the time being. Will probably give it a more durable cable at a later date.
For those interested at DIYing it: http://www.lunashops.co.uk/goods-1209.html
Chatbox said:
Got mine today, and modded it slightly to get better sound and noise isolation.
Using my old E4C, fitted it with a socket (like those being used by the current Shure SE series). The original earbuds have been cut off, replaced by a Shure plug. I also tried fitting my SE535 on it, which is a bit of an overkill, but it works nonetheless.
The stock cable/wire from the HBS-730 is a bit on the flimsy side, but does the job for the time being. Will probably give it a more durable cable at a later date.
For those interested at DIYing it: http://www.lunashops.co.uk/goods-1209.html
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Woah, this is awesome.
Hello,
Pardon if this has been answered already, I simply did not find my exact question answered.
I am using my unmodified Nexus 5 (not even rooted), with the latest KitKat (v.4.4.2 build KOT49H) with quite a few wired and wireless headsets and people always complain they cannot hear me. Eventually I got my hands on an old Samsung Galaxy S2 and tried my best bluetooth headset with it: Imagine my surprise, I could hear myself quite clearly even when I was talking really really softly, barely above a whisper. My headset is excellent. My phone is not.
My questions revolve around what to do about it.
Nothing in KitKat allows me to adjust the bluetooth microphone gain, nor does it let me use an equalizer on my microphone. I can adjust the volume of the headset, but this does not do anything to the microphone gain.
So...
Question 1: am I the only person with this problem?
Question 2: what do you people do about it?
Question 3: are there any mods / custom ROMs out there that attempt to fix this problem? Google does not appear to be interested in doing so.
Thanks in advance!
*bump*
Any ideas? I have tried re-pairing my bluetooth headset - no go. I have tried flashing custom ROMs and kernels - no go again. It seems to be a problem with the phone, but I have no idea how to fix it. And Google searches always return other people having this problem. Noone with solutions, though.
Using a wired headset results in even worse results, if that were at all possible.
Has anyone tried to replace the bluetooth stack or driver with something that works?
Thanks!
*bump*
Yesterday I spent quite a few hours tinkering with my phone. I tried every last radio out there for the Nexus 5 and none had any effect on bluetooth microphone levels. Then I tried a few AOSP ROMs: CM11 and Omni. They turned out to be so closely related I might as well have just tried one. None had any effect on bluetooth microphone. Heck if CM11 doesn't do it, there really are no alternatives out there! I tried the FauxAudio tweak, even paid $2 to Faux, which successfully managed to do nothing: app didn't was written badly. Finally, I tried a bunch of volume boost tweaks. That worked, actually. That is, it boosted the wrong volume. Finally, in a moment of true and utter desperation, I opened an ADB shell and edited that mixer file by hand. I then discovered that microphone gain on bluetooth is not controlled there.
I tried all my wired headsets again: Etymotic HF3's microphone produces such an atrocious sound, if I am to rely on it I need to seriously consider becoming a mime. Then there were my Bose QC15 headphones with a remote cable for Android by some off-brand company: that was terrible, the cable is useless. Heck, not even mime lessons can help me there.
Eventually I chanced upon an old microphone cable for my QC15 headphones. Just microphone, no remote. Surprisingly, this one is loud and clear! That after being anything but loud or clear on my old cell phone. Interesting. Unfortunately, it's been out of production for a few years. My working theory is that Bose realized putting a decent microphone on expensive headphones gives people real value, makes them spend money, and that way lies madness. We can't have that, can we. So when that cable starts cutting, so does my use of this cell phone.
I am screwed.
In any case, I will stop bumping my own thread, you guys obviously don't know a solution or there would have been a lively conversation right now. And I am pretty sure there is a moderator or two frowning right now, possibly getting ready to throw an encyclopedia at me. My only hope is that Google is going to do something about that pesky Broadcom driver that doesn't work sometime before the mass exodus to the iPhone. And before my precious microphone cable stops working, or I will be leading the way for that exodus. It's a phone, damnit, if it doesn't work like one it's no good.
Hmmm.... it should be possible to wire a good lavalier mike on a cell phone cable... maybe I can get an op-amp from an old tape recorder to get decent amplification... When attaching a 9V battery on my headphone cable begins to look appealing, we really have a problem.
Yes, if nobody reply you is because no one can help u.
But for what it's worth, i had an Xperia Play for 2 years. Using an Motorola Bluetooth Headset H350 while driving and a MW600 Sony Ericsson Stereo Bluetooth Headset, both never had a problem.
Now from 2013 Christmas both headsets with my new N5: still never a problem and not noticing any low volume or mic. Sorry
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Dany XP said:
Yes, if nobody reply you is because no one can help u.
But for what it's worth, i had an Xperia Play for 2 years. Using an Motorola Bluetooth Headset H350 while driving and a MW600 Sony Ericsson Stereo Bluetooth Headset, both never had a problem.
Now from 2013 Christmas both headsets with my new N5: still never a problem and not noticing any low volume or mic. Sorry
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hi,
i am having the same issue with my Nexus 5 in combination with my Logitech H800 Wireless headset (people can`t hear me).
Anybody who did find a solution for this?
Thx
pitchdown said:
hi,
i am having the same issue with my Nexus 5 in combination with my Logitech H800 Wireless headset (people can`t hear me).
Anybody who did find a solution for this?
Thx
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No solution. I tried everything, everything I could think of. I got FauxAudio to work eventually and that did nothing for Bluetooth performance (and it said it wouldn't, but I was desperate).
I returned a lot of high end bluetooth headsets over this issue. Eventually I came upon the Plantronics Voyager Legend. I would like to tell you this really expensive headset works fine, but no - microphone gain is still low, though this time around people can hear me okay. Not great, just okay. I am using that now. It's not perfect, it's far from perfect, but finally usable. Sort of. If I speak loudly.
For what it is worth, the ElementalX kernel improves Bluetooth stability on the N5 quite a bit. Microphone gain is still low, though. Another thing that sometimes helps a little is turning off the multimedia profile on the headset, though why THAT would make a difference is beyond me.
All we can do is wait, watch the Samsung Galaxy S5 get released and wonder if we should switch.
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No solution. I tried everything, everything I could think of. I got FauxAudio to work eventually and that did nothing for Bluetooth performance (and it said it wouldn't, but I was desperate).
I returned a lot of high end bluetooth headsets over this issue. Eventually I came upon the Plantronics Voyager Legend. I would like to tell you this really expensive headset works fine, but no - microphone gain is still low, though this time around people can hear me okay. Not great, just okay. I am using that now. It's not perfect, it's far from perfect, but finally usable. Sort of. If I speak loudly.
For what it is worth, the ElementalX kernel improves Bluetooth stability on the N5 quite a bit. Microphone gain is still low, though. Another thing that sometimes helps a little is turning off the multimedia profile on the headset, though why THAT would make a difference is beyond me.
All we can do is wait, watch the Samsung Galaxy S5 get released and wonder if we should switch.
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Somebody advised me to download the app "persist"
This is free from the playstore.
Can you try this and let me know this is working for you?
Thx
pitchdown said:
Somebody advised me to download the app "persist"
This is free from the playstore.
Can you try this and let me know this is working for you?
Thx
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This app controls the bluetooth volume, not the bluetooth gain. The bluetooth volume was never a problem.
kangelov said:
This app controls the bluetooth volume, not the bluetooth gain. The bluetooth volume was never a problem.
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Ok,
i am having the problem with my Logitech H800 headset with the nexus 5.
So this is a android kitkiat 4.4 issue?
Or is this problem only on several Nexus 5-devices?
pitchdown said:
Ok,
i am having the problem with my Logitech H800 headset with the nexus 5.
So this is a android kitkiat 4.4 issue?
Or is this problem only on several Nexus 5-devices?
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My guess is either the bluetooth baseband or the bluetooth kernel driver used in the N5 is flaky. This is why I think so:
Problem does not exist on my old Samsung Galaxy S2, including when it runs the same nightly of CM11, nor does it exist on my computer or my desk phone. All the headsets I've owned performed admirably there, so the headsets are not directly the cause. From what I've seen no ROM and no kernel out there seem to be making a difference as far as Bluetooth gain is concerned, the problem is persistently there and the same. Best I could tell it's just the N5 with a problem and it's just for the phone profile. I've tried the Bose headset (the worst performer headset with the N5 of the lot) on a colleague's N5 and his phone was just as bad with it as mine. I am not sure if it's a small batch of N5s having a problem, I don't own lots and lots of N5 phones to try on, but I doubt it: with anything digital things are usually all-or-nothing and the N5 has an off-the-shelf Bluetooth chip, which is not unique to the N5. My guess is it's the entire model, but having only tried on 2 N5 phones, this is no more than a guess.
From what I saw online, the entire Nexus line has poor Bluetooth performance, not just the 5, and Google changed the Bluetooth stack with KitKat besides possibly introducing more problems. If you have a non-Nexus phone, the manufacturer most certainly replaced the Bluetooth driver and radio with one of their own, so problem goes away, but the Nexus line does not enjoy such attention.
An interesting thing to try would be for someone to put the LG G2 Bluetooth driver on a N5 kernel and try it out. I don't have the time or the expertise to do that, but there are plenty of people who do. Assuming the G2 does not have problems with bluetooth gain, if the problem still persists it will tell us if it's the N5 baseband or hardware doing it, and noone can help us there if that's the case.
I have this problem too, using my Nexus5 with iphone headsets. Peoples told me in skype and hangouts, that they hear me bad...
Shiver2005 said:
I have this problem too, using my Nexus5 with iphone headsets. Peoples told me in skype and hangouts, that they hear me bad...
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That's a different problem. The wired headset problem is easily solvable with FauxAudio and a supported kernel.
This maybe realted to the changes Google made to the core Bluetooth stack as of Android 4.3+ I know they made adjustments for the BLE [low poer Bluetooth devices like pedometers and other senor type crap]. It is BEYOND me as to why Google keeps adding functionality ot the core Bluetooth stack when it is GLARINGLY OBVIOUS they have real problems with Bluetooth as a whole. WHY NOT fix the core issues so Bluetooth is much better at the basics before trying to add functionality or more complex?
I know they complained it would cost a bit for a different newer Bluetooth license but I mean in my personal experience with many different phones Bluetooth is SUPER flaky even at it's best in Android, and does not even work the same way across devices [I have used 3 different Jabra speakerphones on my bosses Galaxy 3 recently and they all worked to varying degrees even though they all use the same version of Bluetooth protocol], but my T989 [Galaxy 2 T-mobile], my parents G2s My bosses older Bionic, My fathers new Droid X, etc. all have random problems. You can usually find one device that works well with a certain phone/ROM, but that can change between ROM versions and devices so it is like you need to go and buy 1 of everything every time there is an update and go crazy finding the ONE that works [and as noted on page 1 with the gentleman using the same Platronics Voyager Platinum as I have it is a super expensive very nice device that worked BEAUTIFULLY in ICS, but now in 4.1 + you can not get more than 1 or 2 words across the mic unless you are YELLING at it like a crazy person on the SAME device].
So all that to say I think it is prolly related to changes Android made in 4.3+ flipped the Bluetooth operability on it's head.
Mic Volume OK with KitKat 4.4.4 and cheap "HB-800" headset
there've been no posts for a while so maybe the problem has gone away with the KitKat updates.
But anyway:-
I have a Nexus 5 and recently bought a cheap generic stereo earbud headset with mic from eBay .... $14.82 Ozzie including delivery to Western Australia.
I've actually asked the other party whether they can hear me (specifically "am I loud enough?") because I read this thread and have been assured that it's all good.
In fact it's a pity the sound quality at MY end isn't better, but that's probably the low quality ear buds rather than electronics / firmware reasons.
Of course, ymmv.
Here's the ebay item title in case anyone wants to look it up or I can pm the item number if it helps.
"Headphones Earphones with MIC 1st Stereo Bluetooth Hands-Free Wireless HV/HB-800"
No, the problem is still there. Reason there are no posts is that no one has a solution. Nothing has changed since March. I am somewhat controlling it with CM11 running on the ElementalX kernel. Without this kernel Bluetooth performance is unbearable. With it it is barely adequate.
It's funny that a cheap headset would work okay while multiple top-of-the-line everything-but-the-kitchen-sink models like the Plantronics Voyager Pro would still be having problems.
I was seriously considering getting the OnePlus One, the Nexus 6 and even the iPhone 6 hoping the issue would finally be fixed. It's ridiculous that a phone commonly accepted as the measuring stick of the Android world would be having problems with simple tasks like driving a bluetooth headset. *very disappointed*
Me too. Two days with my new N5 and when I use my Sony SBH20 people hear me bad... With my N4 no problem. Its annoying! Ive to speak with headset because Ive problems with my left arm and legs, I only have the right to hold the phone, I cant do anyhing more and when I walk I need that arm to hold my cane.
I dont see a real solution, I will have to return the N5
Hey everyone,
Found out my company is ditching Sprint for Verizon which means I have to part with my beloved Nexus 5.
Anyway, from what I've been reading on here it seems like the M8 is really the only Verizon phone that can be rooted. I've had a few HTC phones over the years, including the M7, but they never seem to get along with my car's stereo. The phone part works fine but when I stream music via Bluetooth there is always a great deal of distortion in the high end. Especially on cymbal crashes. This makes it pretty much unlistenable. I'm curious if anyone has experienced anything like with with the M8? I've Googled it a few times and found threads about the One X and One M7 having this problem but have yet to see anything about the M8.
I don't stream to my car often, but on the handful of times I have, I didn't notice any sound issues. This was using Pandora and Google Music, on a Ford (2008 model).
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I don't stream to my car often, but on the handful of times I have, I didn't notice any sound issues. This was using Pandora and Google Music, on a Ford (2008 model).
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Thanks for the info!
Just got my jaybird x's today and guess what. Filled with static. I could not be more annoyed with this particular phone right now. Three defects in one model I mean come on. Speaker crackle. Screen is creased and looks like you're pressing down on a TV and now Bluetooth has static
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I can't say for certain, but I imagine bluetooth audio issues would most likely be due to whatever is actually playing the music, not the phone. Bluetooth audio, in general, is terrible - unless you're using something like the HTC Stereoclip which does not use that same audio codec that just about everything else does. You could have lossless flac files on your phone, and 9/10 times it's gonna sound like crap over bluetooth, no matter what the music is being sent from.
I stream daily over Bluetooth and it sounds amazing. Vzw.
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Just plugged mine into my aftermarket JVC GPS stereo on a my truck which gets only occasional use these days. Have to say I was somewhat blown away when I pushed some Comfortably Numb into the 5 speakers (Inc sub) and cranked up the volume. Most impressive...
The wife gets terrific sound from her N7 to some small bluetooth speakers we got last year and has no issues unless she's using TuneIn at which point it goes from OK to awful.
I say this to simply point out that the invariable rule of YMMV seems to hold sway here but I don't think the M8 has any generic systematic failure with bluetooth audio.
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Just got my jaybird x's today and guess what. Filled with static. I could not be more annoyed with this particular phone right now. Three defects in one model I mean come on. Speaker crackle. Screen is creased and looks like you're pressing down on a TV and now Bluetooth has static
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Hmmm... thats not what I want to hear.
brandogg said:
I can't say for certain, but I imagine bluetooth audio issues would most likely be due to whatever is actually playing the music, not the phone. Bluetooth audio, in general, is terrible - unless you're using something like the HTC Stereoclip which does not use that same audio codec that just about everything else does. You could have lossless flac files on your phone, and 9/10 times it's gonna sound like crap over bluetooth, no matter what the music is being sent from.
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This is true. But I'm talking hiss/distortion like a speaker is blown. I'm just streaming Spotify to my cars stereo and not expecting flawless audio but the issues I have with the M7 were unlistenable.
1ManWolfePack said:
I stream daily over Bluetooth and it sounds amazing. Vzw.
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Thanks!
Not Enough Coffee said:
Just plugged mine into my aftermarket JVC GPS stereo on a my truck which gets only occasional use these days. Have to say I was somewhat blown away when I pushed some Comfortably Numb into the 5 speakers (Inc sub) and cranked up the volume. Most impressive...
The wife gets terrific sound from her N7 to some small bluetooth speakers we got last year and has no issues unless she's using TuneIn at which point it goes from OK to awful.
I say this to simply point out that the invariable rule of YMMV seems to hold sway here but I don't think the M8 has any generic systematic failure with bluetooth audio.
Sent by Tapatalk Pro running my rooted Big Red HTC One M8
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Thanks!
From what I understand, it has something to do with HTC setting the bitpool value too low. Which, in itself, might not be a big deal but it might just be a issue with that value combined with my car's stereo. I just don't want to lose root when I move to Verizon.
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I can't say for certain, but I imagine bluetooth audio issues would most likely be due to whatever is actually playing the music, not the phone. Bluetooth audio, in general, is terrible - unless you're using something like the HTC Stereoclip which does not use that same audio codec that just about everything else does. You could have lossless flac files on your phone, and 9/10 times it's gonna sound like crap over bluetooth, no matter what the music is being sent from.
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Maybe the stereo in your car just sucks? Streaming Pandora over BT in my car usually sounds great. I mean granted it's not as good as using headphones, but it sounds pretty damn good.
Also, I streamed some more over this last weekend, and while the quality was still good, it did disconnect once for no apparent reason. And once it happened, I remembered that it happened a few weeks ago as well. Same thing, I was just driving along both times, and my BT just seemed to shut off. I turned BT back on, reconnected Sync (it's damned annoying how Sync never automatically reconnects), and it worked again for the rest of the weekend.
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Maybe the stereo in your car just sucks? Streaming Pandora over BT in my car usually sounds great. I mean granted it's not as good as using headphones, but it sounds pretty damn good.
Also, I streamed some more over this last weekend, and while the quality was still good, it did disconnect once for no apparent reason. And once it happened, I remembered that it happened a few weeks ago as well. Same thing, I was just driving along both times, and my BT just seemed to shut off. I turned BT back on, reconnected Sync (it's damned annoying how Sync never automatically reconnects), and it worked again for the rest of the weekend.
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Thanks for the info.
I saw that an OTA for the M8 pushed out today (I think) that was supposed to fix some Bluetooth issues. I won't if the disconnects were addressed.
I'm M8 should be here on Monday. I really hope it works out OK. I don't want to send it back for an iPhone. :crying:
Another OTA? Has anyone else heard this? I am having a really rough time with bluetooth headset outgoing voice quality so some sort of fix would be awesome.
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If the phone volume is at max it will distort. When I turn the volume to max while streaming Bluetooth to my car stereo it sounds crackling and distorted. Turning volume down 2 clicks to about 85% on the phone fixes it
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AustinML71 said:
Another OTA? Has anyone else heard this? I am having a really rough time with bluetooth headset outgoing voice quality so some sort of fix would be awesome.
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Sorry, I should have checked the date. The thread is fromm the 18th. This is the one I was referring too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2722817
Evocm7 said:
If the phone volume is at max it will distort. When I turn the volume to max while streaming Bluetooth to my car stereo it sounds crackling and distorted. Turning volume down 2 clicks to about 85% on the phone fixes it
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It's not a volume thing. I've tried turning it down when I had the M7 and it sounded the same.
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If the phone volume is at max it will distort. When I turn the volume to max while streaming Bluetooth to my car stereo it sounds crackling and distorted. Turning volume down 2 clicks to about 85% on the phone fixes it
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Again, sorry, but it may just be your stereo. When Bluetooth streaming to my car I always have my phones media volume maxed and I control the listening volume via the car volume, and it sounds fine.
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Again, sorry, but it may just be your stereo. When Bluetooth streaming to my car I always have my phones media volume maxed and I control the listening volume via the car volume, and it sounds fine.
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Do you have an aftermarket stereo? I've had 4 different head units on my car, all high end Sony and clarion and all had same thing with max volume all my previous 3 phones ( rezound, s4, and m8). Just curious if it's just aftermarket decks that have this issue which I really don't consider an issue. I prefer to have the volume lower on the source and let my deck and equalizer provide the output anyway.
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Do you have an aftermarket stereo? I've had 4 different head units on my car, all high end Sony and clarion and all had same thing with max volume all my previous 3 phones ( rezound, s4, and m8). Just curious if it's just aftermarket decks that have this issue which I really don't consider an issue. I prefer to have the volume lower on the source and let my deck and equalizer provide the output anyway.
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No, it's a factory Ford stereo. If you know someone with a factory BT compatible stereo, maybe try pairing your phone to their car and see if streams with or without distortion?
I mean, it's possible your particular phone itself could be bad. I just don't think it's all M8's since I don't have a problem, and because I imagine we would have seen a lot more complaints.
For six months I have been playing music in my car with a one (M7) via Bluetooth, with very annoying vibrations that eventually damaged my car stereo. I just found out that if I launch the media app via the "HTC car" app, the volume is much louder and I don't have those vibrations anymore. By default the HTC car app in the M7 only includes the default "Music" app, but other media apps may be added.
Hope this may help for the M8 too.
By these vibrations detroyed my car stereo, and I had to change it. I am pretty annoyed that HTC doesn't mention this anywhere, and leaves it to the user to find out.