Hi there,
I am pretty new to the forum and I havent had much experience with locked / unlocked devices so my question might be a bit naive.
I wanted to buy the AT&T Fuze from ebay and the offer says its unlocked.
Does that mean I can use it in Pakistan and Middle East. And secondly, can I change its ROM to the standard middle east rom version.
I ll be thankful if someone could guide me regarding the problem.
Thanks
yes you can
unlocking your phone will allow you to use your phone with another service provider (instead of just At&t).
You can change your ROM regardless of whether your phone is unlocked or not.
I'll get specific for you.
1. Sim unlocked
(the most common unlocked terminology) means you can put any sim in the device and use that carriers network.
As far as ROM flashing goes (don't get the two confused)
2. Security unlocked and Hard SPL.
Hard SPL is for flashing a ROM, However since you live outside the U.S. you might want to flash a Radio, This is were Security Unlocking comes into play.
If you want my recommendation, Use "Olipro's" unlocker in the Raphael Rom Development section. It is worth the money and very easy to use.
trancer_84 said:
unlocking your phone will allow you to use your phone with another service provider (instead of just At&t).
You can change your ROM regardless of whether your phone is unlocked or not.
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I really hope no one reads this post and just decides to take a Stock Fuze and flash it without HARD SPL.
thanks for your comments..
really informative ..
but can anyone please suggest some thread for explanation of terms like hard spl and radio etc ...
fahadriaz49 said:
thanks for your comments..
really informative ..
but can anyone please suggest some thread for explanation of terms like hard spl and radio etc ...
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I already did, read post 4
Everything you ever wanted to know is in the WIKI.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael
Hi there, I currently own an HTC Desire S, the information for it is below:
Android version:
2.3.3
HTC Sense version:
2.1
Software number:
1.28.401.1
Operator name:
vodaphone UK
I haven't yet recieved the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 update. I have tryed searching for updates and checking in using that checkin dial code. I'm just wondering if there's anyway to install this official update onto my phone with minimal risk? I've looked around the forums but can't find exactly what i'm looking for (or I just can't find it!).
Thanks!
I think that you have got the same software version 1.28.401.1 that I had until recently.
I would like to have used to OTA update route but basically got tired of waiting.
I believe that the OTA update was targetted (certainly at first) specifically at those people who already received the previous (troublesome) update to 1.47.
I believe this explains why we didn't get the update.
I loaded the RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30. 0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed from the development section here and it works a treat. No problems.
The only thing that puzzles me is that my phone is very definitely unbranded and not operator locked, whereas you mention Vodaphone. (If your phone was locked to Vodaphone I would have expected a different software version).
Anyway, if your phone is unlocked like mine, I would certainly recommend using the RUU.
- Steve
fasty said:
I think that you have got the same software version 1.28.401.1 that I had until recently.
I would like to have used to OTA update route but basically got tired of waiting.
I believe that the OTA update was targetted (certainly at first) specifically at those people who already received the previous (troublesome) update to 1.47.
I believe this explains why we didn't get the update.
I loaded the RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30. 0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed from the development section here and it works a treat. No problems.
The only thing that puzzles me is that my phone is very definitely unbranded and not operator locked, whereas you mention Vodaphone. (If your phone was locked to Vodaphone I would have expected a different software version).
Anyway, if your phone is unlocked like mine, I would certainly recommend using the RUU.
- Steve
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Thanks very much for your reply.
Yeah, unfortunately my phone is in fact locked to Vodaphone, and I couldn't find the equivalent update that you listed for unlocked phones.
i have a vodafone as well on the same firmware and never got it.
from what i hear the update was pulled due to instability so if you didnt receive it already i very much doubt you will untill a new version is released.
i gave up waiting and went to endymion 3.5
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Yeah, unfortunately my phone is in fact locked to Vodaphone, and I couldn't find the equivalent update that you listed for unlocked phones.
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Are you sure it's locked?!
I thought that software version was for the generic european unlocked version.
Someone else help me here - can the same software number apply to both operator locked and unlocked phones?
fasty said:
Are you sure it's locked?!
I thought that software version was for the generic european unlocked version.
Someone else help me here - can the same software number apply to both operator locked and unlocked phones?
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i can confirm the htc euro ruu DOES NOT WORK ON VODAFONE BRANDED DEVICES. it bricked my phone and took a whole lot of work to downgrade back to the old hboot to get it working again. the only way to install this version on a voda desire s is via goldcard.it will just give you a cid error and brick your device
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i can confirm the htc euro ruu DOES NOT WORK ON VODAFONE BRANDED DEVICES. it bricked my phone and took a whole lot of work to downgrade back to the old hboot to get it working again. the only way to install this version on a voda desire s is via goldcard.it will just give you a cid error and brick your device
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Completely agree, great care needed !
But my point was, the software version1.28.401.1 reported by Biogeneric appears to be the same as I had until recently on my unbranded phone.
I thought that if his phone was locked to Vodaphone, wouldn't it have a different software number? Or can the operator lock the phone to their network without changing this software version away form the "generic" one?
- Steve
I'm with Vodaphone, and it says my network is "vodaphone UK" so i'm assuming it's locked! How am I supposed to find out without putting a different networks Sim in?
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I'm with Vodaphone, and it says my network is "vodaphone UK" so i'm assuming it's locked! How am I supposed to find out without putting a different networks Sim in?
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Mine (which recently had the same software version and in NOT operator locked) simply says the name of whatever SIM card you insert.
I suspect your phone may be unlocked, but I'd like feedback from a more experienced developer before suggesting that you load the RUU! We don't want any nasty accidents
By the way, I've just loaded RUU for 2.10.401.8 and it's looking good so far...
Okay, I tried putting in an Orange sim card and setting the network to Orange and it appears to all work (well, I had signal on it, and the network was stated as "Orange"). So i'm assuming my phone is in fact unlocked then?
If so, great news! Am I all clear to update to that unlocked version then? Anyone got a link to the newest one? (Not any mods etc. just the standard update!).
Thanks all!
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Okay, I tried putting in an Orange sim card and setting the network to Orange and it appears to all work (well, I had signal on it, and the network was stated as "Orange"). So i'm assuming my phone is in fact unlocked then?
If so, great news! Am I all clear to update to that unlocked version then? Anyone got a link to the newest one? (Not any mods etc. just the standard update!).
Thanks all!
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I believe that the most recent RUU is RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30. 0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe
in the "Shipped Desire S ROM Collection" :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
I loaded this last night and not experienced any problems so far.
Be warned that this will wipe all existing data on your phone, so make sure that you have got everything saved. In some respects, this is a good thing because you are sure of getting a completely fresh install.
I can't see any reason why this shouldn't work for you, but I wouldn't feel bad if you got a second opinion
-Steve
fasty said:
I believe that the most recent RUU is RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30. 0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe
in the "Shipped Desire S ROM Collection" :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
I loaded this last night and not experienced any problems so far.
Be warned that this will wipe all existing data on your phone, so make sure that you have got everything saved. In some respects, this is a good thing because you are sure of getting a completely fresh install.
I can't see any reason why this shouldn't work for you, but I wouldn't feel bad if you got a second opinion
-Steve
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Okay thanks very much! I'll try updating it via that ROM tonight - hopefully I won't brick it!
Does anyone know if updating the phone using this method voids the warranty?
Also, how do I actually install that update to my phone? Seen a few tutorials scattared around but some are for different things and I don't want to mess it up! (Easiest/quickest method please, if there is one ha!)
Thanks a lot for your help Steve!
Biogeneric said:
Okay thanks very much! I'll try updating it via that ROM tonight - hopefully I won't brick it!
Does anyone know if updating the phone using this method voids the warranty?
Also, how do I actually install that update to my phone? Seen a few tutorials scattared around but some are for different things and I don't want to mess it up! (Easiest/quickest method please, if there is one ha!)
Thanks a lot for your help Steve!
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I expect that doing almost anything other than the "official" OTA update theoretically voids warranty. But perhaps more important, if it all went horribly wrong, could anyone detect that you were fiddling with it
If you returned a phone rooted or S-off, then it's asking for trouble.
The discussed RUU is a signed update that does not invoke S-off or root the phone so should not create an "obvious" problem.
The way I updated my phone was as follows:
- I already had HTC Sync installed on my PC
- Fully charged phone
- Downloaded the RUU file to folder on hard disk
- Temporarily disabled my antivirus
- Temporarily disabled standby power saving option on PC
- Connected the phone as normal and selected the option on phone to do Sync
- I let the phone completely finish sync
- I ran the RUU on the PC and followed the simple instructions.
- It took about 10 minutes with no user intervention required.
I don't know if the whole HTC Sync thing is necessary, it was on my PC anyway and the procedure has worked OK for me.
I can now confirm this has all worked for me. no problems so far!
Thanks for all your help fasty! Very much appreciated.
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I can now confirm this has all worked for me. no problems so far!
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Great news! Be sure to thank "Football" because he is the one that has done the hard work making these ROMs available.
Hi not sure if posting in correct thread but I am on O2 and also have the 1.28.401.1 software and just been informed by HTC my phone is unbranded despite coming straight from O2. Has anyone received the update whilst being on 1.28.401.1? Am i wasting my time holding out for an OTA update?
RUU
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just wondering how i will get the update.... as i understand it its up to the carriers to push the update. my phone is stock from virgin but i am unlocked to use rogers, who will push it to me?
I'm on rogers as well. If I were you, I'd just root it and install ICS or run the RUU. I say this because warranty with HTC is a pain especially since we can't send it through rogers for warranty. Warranty is pretty much pointless/a huge hassle! But I'm pretty sure you can just run the RUU when it's released, so manual instead of automatically. Maybe I'm wrong and if I am someone can correct me!
Hi,
As you've already imagined, I'm not any god-alike person in XDA. I don't know a lot about android developing. Yes, I am an amateur. (Although not a beginner) I'm just in a bit of trouble here and would love to have someone to help me.
Anyway, I've been using an HTC One [(M7_UL), (PN0710000)] for about 3 weeks now. And I've already tortured it a lot (not physically! ) I've unlocked the bootloader, installed CWM custom recovery, installed the 2.17.401.1 stock ROM posted by mike1986. (believe me, this guy is awesome!!)
Now I want to get back to COMPLETELY STOCK so that I can get OTA updates again and remove the "TAMPERED" mark from my device's bootlocker menu. So I relocked my bootloader, downloaded an RUU (RUU_M7_UL_JB_50_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.7_Radio_4A.13.3231.27_10.31.1131.05_release_310878_signed.exe) and tried to install it. The interesting part is, this RUU is for "x.xx.401.x" based devices only. But mine was a SIM-Unlocked Vodafone UK (x.xx.161.x) based device out of the box. So, As I imagined right from the beginning, I couldn't install this RUU. I got the "ERROR [131]: CUSTOMER ID ERROR". But I also noticed that the .401 and the .161 variants have many similarities. Such as they are both M7_UL devices and their model numbers are same too (PN0710000). Honestly, I don't like Vodafone (I don't know why I bought it from them) and right now, I want the PURE STOCK ROM, not any career-branded ROM. So, I though if it was possible for me to install a "x.xx.401.x" based RUU in my device. And if it is possible in any way (there SHOULD be a way, right?), how do I do it? Please help me. And if you need any other information in order to answer my question, I'm ready to answer.
Thanks a lot....
Hello. I have an HTC One from C Spire (Cellular South). The bootloader is unlocked and I am rooted with no custom ROM. I am using TWRP and SuperSU. I had to use the Sprint Version of TWRP and SuperSU in order to root. I have not had any issues but I am stuck on 4.2.2. I would like to get my phone back to stock so that I can update to 4.3.
After doing: fastboot getvar version-main
It returned: version-mian: 2.04.563.2
My boot menu says:
M7_WLS PVT SHIP S-ON RH
HBoot-1.54.0000
RADIO-1.00.20.0725
OS-2.04.563.2
I'm fairly new to rooting and I'm not sure how to undo this. I know with other carriers it is quite easy. That's not the case with CSpire. The only thing I can think of is to somehow get S-OFF, although I'd rather avoid doing so. I thought I needed to find the CSpire RUU files, but I do not think that is the case. Since I have not installed a Custom ROM can I just do an Android OTA?
Have you had any success as of yet finding the RUU for CSpire ? I too have an HTC One from CSpire. I have gotten as far as unlocking the phone but until I find the factory flash for our device I am afraid to root my phone... Please help me if you know where to find this... Thanks.....
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tonygrip said:
Have you had any success as of yet finding the RUU for CSpire ? I too have an HTC One from CSpire. I have gotten as far as unlocking the phone but until I find the factory flash for our device I am afraid to root my phone... Please help me if you know where to find this... Thanks.....
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No luck. I took my phone to CSpire since my SIM card was not working. They saw that it was rooted and wouldn't touch it. They wiped my phone and during the process wiped the OS. So the phone was then useless. The guy suggested that since I had purchased the warranty that I should just drop my phone in a pool so that they could replace it. So I did that. Now I have a brand new one. I wouldn't suggest rooting until someone releases the ruu files. :/
I also tried to use Cyanogen Mod for sprint devices but I could not get cellular data with it. So do not root if you ever plan on restoring.
Thanks
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No luck. I took my phone to CSpire since my SIM card was not working. They saw that it was rooted and wouldn't touch it. They wiped my phone and during the process wiped the OS. So the phone was then useless. The guy suggested that since I had purchased the warranty that I should just drop my phone in a pool so that they could replace it. So I did that. Now I have a brand new one. I wouldn't suggest rooting until someone releases the ruu files. :/
I also tried to use Cyanogen Mod for sprint devices but I could not get cellular data with it. So do not root if you ever plan on restoring.
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Thanks man I will not touch it past this point until more is released.. Shhhuuuuwwwaa !!!!
I just picked up an HTC One this afternoon. I was hoping there would be some development going on but like everyone else mentioned, I can't find any stock files for C Spire. I hope something will come out soon. When the HTC Hero was released, C Spire had all of the RUU files and updates on their website....
Stock Backup
Is it possible to switch to an alternate recovery such as TWRP or CWM without rooting first? If so, couldn't we just make a backup of a non-rooted stock rom and just revert back to that if there is a problem?
I have posted a non rooted backup of my htc one, we also have a working 4.4.2 rom made just for c spire if anyone wants to check it out. Voice, Data, sms, mms all work.
www.teamcspire.com