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[Q] Why root?

Hi,
I'm new to android and nexus S and I tried to install some applications that need to be root.
I searched a little and did find out that are many ways to root. Some of them explained in xda-developers websites.
Before I do the root process I do like to know more about the security issues of doing that. Which risks I'll soffer by doind that? May I trust the code writted "not by" google developers? What is different in that?
Thanks,
Bruno.

it has nothing to do with all of the above
it's to gain super power
you can do all kind of thing when rooted, otherwise many apps will not work
you don't need to root to use the phone, you can always find alternative app that does not require root, probably with less feature and options
non-root is to protect newbies from damaging the phone
only 1337 people root their phones to hack the innards out of it, to master control the phone to do things only imagination can provide.

I would say the main number one reason to root would be to use an app like Titanium Backup to save your settings/applications. There are also some nice utilities to have, like ad blockers and other stuff that require root privileges.
As stated, it's not really something that you need to do, it's more for power users who want total control of their device.

there are new Backup software that does not require root, like MyBackup
but it sucks compared to TitaniumBackup
however the PAID version of MyBackup Pro or something like that, can do sort of the same thing like TitaniumBackup can do without ROOT
but still shys in comparison to TB

its already been said, but the point of rooting is you gain complete super power over your device. so many things can be done with root, great custom ROMs out there. its a no brainer, and i was undecided about it at first too. but once i rooted, i'll never go back. there are too many advantages to list, and not one negative reason to avoid rooting.

No point
Another reason would be to overclock your phone.. Overclocking makes your phone "faster" but honestly i wouldnt bother. i had recently had the T-Mobile G2 and i rooted it and tried overclocking using an application called "setcpu" but it completely made the phone weird and somewhat unresponsive...
Anyways im currently using the Nexus S and i tend to think of rooting it but honestly, theres no point. this phone is in tip top shape and perfect just the way it is. i mean what ROM is out there for it besides Cyanogenmod 7? DONT ROOT! OR.. i told myself if this phone just starts to act weird and not work well, ill most likely just root it.

jeremyt727 said:
Another reason would be to overclock your phone.. Overclocking makes your phone "faster" but honestly i wouldnt bother. i had recently had the T-Mobile G2 and i rooted it and tried overclocking using an application called "setcpu" but it completely made the phone weird and somewhat unresponsive...
Anyways im currently using the Nexus S and i tend to think of rooting it but honestly, theres no point. this phone is in tip top shape and perfect just the way it is. i mean what ROM is out there for it besides Cyanogenmod 7? DONT ROOT! OR.. i told myself if this phone just starts to act weird and not work well, ill most likely just root it.
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CM7 itself is all you need to make you want to root. It's so easy to root.
Also. Voodoo Sound is another good reason, Voodoo Sound is simply amazing
Nexus S was built to be hacked. Use it for it's primary reason why it was built.

because you can is enough of a reason to

In simple words, you get administrative access to ur kernel !

How can I root my nexus S?

Explained in threads in Nexus S Android Development section
Check this thread.

Why root?

Being the xoom has sideload what other incentives are there to root? I have an atrix and thing of geting the xoom but w/o custom roms what does rooting do for you? And are there custom kernals if so what do those do thanx
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I think the better question is Why not root?
Rooting brings backups, recovery, ownership of the system, customization, and the ability to run modified hulu flash

You don't HAVE to root.
My XOOM is running stock 3.1
I've unlocked my TouchPro2 which sometimes runs Android too, rooted my wife's CDMA Hero and her NOOK Color.
I'm not opposed to rooting my XOOM, I just don't have a NEED to right now.
Its fast enough for my games, google reader and XDA app, I don't need overclocking, and I prefer the longer battery life anyway.
32GB of storage is quite a bit, so I don't need the SD right now, don't have a SD card for it yet either.
All the other little bits of neat things here and there are cool, and would be fun to play with. I probably will root eventually, but isn't necessary right now.
Don't let all this talk of rooting make you think you HAVE to, you don't.
If there's something released that you just absolutely have to have, root then.
Rooting alone won't make unicorns appear or magical gnomes keep your house clean.
But should someone write an app for the gnomes to clean my house, you can guarantee my XOOM will be rooted lol

KYT said:
You don't HAVE to root.
My XOOM is running stock 3.1
I've unlocked my TouchPro2 which sometimes runs Android too, rooted my wife's CDMA Hero and her NOOK Color.
I'm not opposed to rooting my XOOM, I just don't have a NEED to right now.
Its fast enough for my games, google reader and XDA app, I don't need overclocking, and I prefer the longer battery life anyway.
32GB of storage is quite a bit, so I don't need the SD right now, don't have a SD card for it yet either.
All the other little bits of neat things here and there are cool, and would be fun to play with. I probably will root eventually, but isn't necessary right now.
Don't let all this talk of rooting make you think you HAVE to, you don't.
If there's something released that you just absolutely have to have, root then.
Rooting alone won't make unicorns appear or magical gnomes keep your house clean.
But should someone write an app for the gnomes to clean my house, you can guarantee my XOOM will be rooted lol
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I am also running stock 3.1. Rooting gives you the ability to do several things with your system because when you are "root" in a *nix environment you have control of everything. You can overwrite files, you can delete files, you can install whatever you want and you can also easily break stuff.
The last part is where users get into trouble.
My advice is always going to be to save rooting for the technically inclined. If you're technically inclined and feel like you can competantly run amuck in your system go for it man there's a ton of fun stuff you can do. If you're the slightest bit leary that you might get something wrong, or don't want to install development tools, etc... stay stock.

cwizardtx said:
I am also running stock 3.1. Rooting gives you the ability to do several things with your system because when you are "root" in a *nix environment you have control of everything. You can overwrite files, you can delete files, you can install whatever you want and you can also easily break stuff.
The last part is where users get into trouble.
My advice is always going to be to save rooting for the technically inclined. If you're technically inclined and feel like you can competantly run amuck in your system go for it man there's a ton of fun stuff you can do. If you're the slightest bit leary that you might get something wrong, or don't want to install development tools, etc... stay stock.
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How do you manage to keep your nexus one stock? Lol
I for one have rooted every android device I owned I've never been a fan of stock either way its all up to you but my opinion is rooted >stock

bwcorvus said:
I think the better question is Why not root?
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Because Google will be blocking movies (and I'll bet Netflix does, as well) on rooted devices. Which then leaves us stuck with how to do things like backup, customization, etc. without a rooted device...
eric

Personally... overclocking, underclocking, screenshot, adfree, Hulu, system backup, Titanium backup.

ericbergan said:
Because Google will be blocking movies (and I'll bet Netflix does, as well) on rooted devices. Which then leaves us stuck with how to do things like backup, customization, etc. without a rooted device...
eric
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Drm only hurts honest people...

Netflix currenty works on rooted devices. I can't see a logical reason why it would change either. But nothing the riaa does is really logical to me so who knows. But Netflix is streaming only so it is different than a 24hr rental service that you can actually download the file for offline viewing.
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PaulG1488 said:
How do you manage to keep your nexus one stock? Lol
I for one have rooted every android device I owned I've never been a fan of stock either way its all up to you but my opinion is rooted >stock
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Well actually I wouldn't mind rooting the Xoom or the Nexus one I just don't fiddle around with ROMs or kernels. Merely rooting the device all by itself is pretty safe and gets you a lot of things I guess.
I just had my Nexus repaired by HTC a couple weeks ago and they wiped it... even though I don't have all these fancy back up measures in place it took me all of 10 minutes to put the phone back the way it was.

ericbergan said:
Because Google will be blocking movies (and I'll bet Netflix does, as well) on rooted devices. Which then leaves us stuck with how to do things like backup, customization, etc. without a rooted device...
eric
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doesn't bother me cos australia can't get movies anyway... i rooted to get more control (for system apps and stuff) and for otg stuff

because you can. root then unroot if you have to.
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Yes there are custom kernels. These add SD card support and real micro USB otg hosting, including the ability to read thumb drives and hard drives. That to me was enough to root. I don't want to pollute my Xoom's disk space with 10gb of music and another 10 with movies. Google music beta solved the music and hot swaping USB solved everything else.

Opinions on Rooting

OK I'm going to ask the million dollar question... Is rooting my Tab 7 Plus worth the risk? I understand it adds a lot of customization and more I'm sure. Is it worth the risk though? How likely am I to kill this thing/will bight me in the butt down the road.

Rooting your GT+ is totally harmless. What you do after you root your device may harm it. There are excellent applications that need root and that is why you want to do it. But at the same time if you are not sure of an application and give it root privileges, well is like giving a thief the key of your safe.
By the way, if you want to get rid of the root and are not too experienced, factory reset your device and the root is gone.
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Zadeis said:
OK I'm going to ask the million dollar question... Is rooting my Tab 7 Plus worth the risk? I understand it adds a lot of customization and more I'm sure. Is it worth the risk though? How likely am I to kill this thing/will bight me in the butt down the road.
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That's a really difficult question to answer for anyone other than yourself. Rooting the tablet isn't as risky as modifying the engine in a car (which is a physical modification in most cases), but more risky than just installing (or uninstalling) an application.
Are you happy using the tablet as-is? If so, don't root it. Leave it alone. I honestly don't think a person SHOULD root the device just for the sake of rooting it.
If there's a specific reason why you want to, then go for it. However, learn as much as you can about what you are doing and what the risks are BEFORE you do it. Keep in mind that it's a slippery slope. First you root it, then you start installing recoveries, alternate firmware, different kernels, etc. It's VERY EASY to get caught up in all the tinkering. I can offer one bit of comfort: It's actually not that easy to completely brick a samsung device. As long as the bootloader is intact, you can always use ODIN to restore it to factory condition.
Good luck
Gary

Well thank you for the general knowledge. I think on it more and maybe throw a thought on here later after thinking on it more. I am happy with it as is but we'll see what happens as I am very new to the android environment. This is my first android based device I have ever owned/ used really.
The ONLY reason really pushing me to root it is the fact I have a GPS app on my TAB that doesn't install it's maps to the sd but actually to the main internal memory. That's irked me ever since I got it when I have a nice nearly empty 16GB SD card sitting inside my TAB.

Stupid question - is there a way to root the Samsung 7 yet revealed that doesn't involve a bootloader?
I would really hate to do anything that could mess up upgrading to ICS when it comes out, but I need to root to make the VPN do anything useful (like connect to our IPSec VPN with group authentication at work)
Right now I am stuck using VNC on my Samsung Epic 4G if I dont have my laptop handy and need to connect to my linux workspace. Needless to say, the experience using it on a cell phone is less than ideal.

All you have to do is flash a zip file using the existing recovery. All it does is add su. I don't know of any root that is simpler and safer than that.

IMO, rooting is a must and like the others have said, you need root to use backup apps and such. To me, it's a necessity.

vobguy said:
Stupid question - is there a way to root the Samsung 7 yet revealed that doesn't involve a bootloader?
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Rooting the SGT7+ does NOT touch the bootloader.
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[Q] Kingpad k70 4.4 kitkat root help

Hi all,
Just bought a tablet off amazon not too long ago, Kingpad K70 (tabletexpress is the company), and I have been trying to find a way to root it. I have tried the various methods like Chainfire, Towelroot, and others, but still unable to. It is running kitkat 4.4.4, says model number is as KINGPAD K70. Any insight or assistance would be great! I also have stock .img file from company, as version on website did not work.
Thanks all,

angrynapkinz said:
Hi all,
Just bought a tablet off amazon not too long ago, Kingpad K70 (tabletexpress is the company), and I have been trying to find a way to root it. I have tried the various methods like Chainfire, Towelroot, and others, but still unable to. It is running kitkat 4.4.4, says model number is as KINGPAD K70. Any insight or assistance would be great! I also have stock .img file from company, as version on website did not work.
Thanks all,
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Try rooting with the following android apps.
Root Master
z4root
Universal Androot
Easy rooting toolkit
Framaroot

Thanks for your quick reply!
I tried all of the .apk files with no success so far but soon I will try the last one and update!

Well tried last one (root toolkit) on two different computers, both just waiting for device, Windows 8 had some compatibility issues, and my desktop, windows 7 automatically reinstalls the driver, and won't allow me to update to ADB device oddly.
Any insights?
Thanks

Same problem
I got the k70 with the rk3128 and NEED TO ROOT as well. I asked the customer service people at tabletexpress, and they weren't much help. I bought it off of amazon, and the title said it was compatible with 3d games... and the lie detector test determined, THAT WAS A LIE !!! no real racing, no dead trigger, no fast and furious, no temple run of any kind. I was lied to. The tablet is a POS to me, but could be better if I could root it. I googled til my brain was all googled out and found NOTHING. So now my only option it to complain and bother people here, amazon, and the customer service at TabletExpress for selling me such a POS tablet:good:

Forgot to update! Use kingo root, took a while but worked, and then I just installed rom toolbox and deleted kingos bs. Still don't like their Android edit, so if you find a workaround for cfw let me know!

angrynapkinz said:
Forgot to update! Use kingo root, took a while but worked, and then I just installed rom toolbox and deleted kingos bs. Still don't like their Android edit, so if you find a workaround for cfw let me know!
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updated: okay, I downloaded kingoroot on my computer. I hooked it up. Had the usb debugging on. wifi is on. I had it recognize the tablet once and it gave me the options to unroot and reroot. I chose reroot. it failed. So im trying to go again, but this time to unroot, then root, however i cannot get it to connect anymore, it keeps saying the tablet is offline! So im pretty sure im missin somethin here.... its sayin its offline, and i read that im supposed to "tick always allow from this computer" to avoid this problem. where would i find this prompt? how do i get to it? also, its not rooted[i checked with root checker] i dunno why it gave me the options unroot/reroot

SUCCESS!!
harlowneedstoroot said:
updated: okay, I downloaded kingoroot on my computer. I hooked it up. Had the usb debugging on. wifi is on. I had it recognize the tablet once and it gave me the options to unroot and reroot. I chose reroot. it failed. So im trying to go again, but this time to unroot, then root, however i cannot get it to connect anymore, it keeps saying the tablet is offline! So im pretty sure im missin somethin here.... its sayin its offline, and i read that im supposed to "tick always allow from this computer" to avoid this problem. where would i find this prompt? how do i get to it? also, its not rooted[i checked with root checker] i dunno why it gave me the options unroot/reroot
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:good::good: for you. I got around the "offline" thing by deleting the kingoroot app off the tablet, then proceeding normally. I did the unroot, but it failed, however it did remove some stuff that made my first reroot fail. So after I unrooted and failed. I rebooted the tablet, deleted the kingoroot app again, and proceeded to reroot. This time the reroot worked!! thank you angrynapkinz:good::good: hey, one more question, what apps to you recommend for this tablet. maybe something for the battery and the overheating. I also couldnt figure out how to play 3d games on it without it crashing

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is cwf custom firmware? Im not that experienced with flashing new ROMs, and it seems that most people here are about the brand name stuff. I was googling cfw's and found nothing except for this forum website that "specializes" in chinese tablets like the kingpad/dragontouch (pretty sure theyre all the same) i think the webmaster makes cfw's or if he doesn't, he'll find out. Thanks again for the root help:good:

Hey harlow, yea I meant custom firmware, the KitKat that they have loaded is obviously rooted previously, you'll notice the more you use it. I installed xposed installer and root browser's etc on it for battery monitoring and all, malwarebytes keeps picking up malware loaded into the tablet and every time I delete. It's reinstalled upon reboot so that's why I'm trying to figure out rom reflashing/cfw options. Still trying to figure out what to add and what not though so take your pick and let me know also what seems to work. I went search and found its been mix and match from forums.

angrynapkinz said:
Hey harlow, yea I meant custom firmware, the KitKat that they have loaded is obviously rooted previously, you'll notice the more you use it. I installed xposed installer and root browser's etc on it for battery monitoring and all, malwarebytes keeps picking up malware loaded into the tablet and every time I delete. It's reinstalled upon reboot so that's why I'm trying to figure out rom reflashing/cfw options. Still trying to figure out what to add and what not though so take your pick and let me know also what seems to work. I went search and found its been mix and match from forums.
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Yeah the kitKat they got on there is no comparison to the OG one on my cheap ass LG L70. I did malwarebytes and avast and found nothing on it so i guess im lucky. Im using Nova Launcher because it looks nicer and functions better. And theres this thing in the Google Play store called Root Booster. idk if you heard of it but you can set your tablet onto one of three modes: Speed, Battery, and Stock. Im on Speed right now, and it boosted the RAM about 50mbs. (I still cant play real racing on it tho) Have you taken the back off yet??? I cant figure it out!! I wanna replace the battery with something with bigger nuts... The stock one is garbage. I can squeeze about 5 hours out of it. Maybe ill glue on some heat sinks onto the chips, it gets really hot when im netflixin. So ill keep an eye out for the cfws. Have you tried reflashing with the stock one they got on tabletexpress? i havnt tried that, but maybe it wont have malware on it?

Yea it sucks, haven't found an alternative yet and still trying to figure this thing out. I had to flash one they emailed me cause the site one didn't work previously. The malware is like coudw.a or cloudsservice.apk every reboot, and also having a constant 115b up and download. No I haven't tried any games yet, or tried to open it up but I might do that, as I'm getting about the same battery wise.

angrynapkinz said:
Yea it sucks, haven't found an alternative yet and still trying to figure this thing out. I had to flash one they emailed me cause the site one didn't work previously. The malware is like coudw.a or cloudsservice.apk every reboot, and also having a constant 115b up and download. No I haven't tried any games yet, or tried to open it up but I might do that, as I'm getting about the same battery wise.
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I think the tablet would work good as a playstation or rom player. I have yet to put my playstation games on it and also connect a ps3 controller to it. busy with differential equations and maplestory... I found a battery on aliexpress with about double the capacity. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/The-...ery-For-7-8-9-inch-tablet-PC/32213974542.html ...idk if itll fit tho. its a little thicker and longer on one side.... if it dont fit... ill make it fit > also, another app to boost the RAM is SmartBooster. I got a little over 200mb ram. yeah, ill update you when i find out other tips and shjt

Need PC/windoze to root.
"Root Android without PC," an info app on GP, indicates that phones/tablets with a kernel newer than 1/3/2014 can't be rooted w/o a PC. Framaroot doesn't work, it also fingers Kingo as possible solution. Kingo itself indicates that it's best for phones. I hate Windoze, but here goes.....
(Weeks ago, I saw something about invoking Linux instead--maybe it was a dream: Perhaps some of my brain cells exploded--no doubt due to "sprinting" cups at keg parties and then passing out long ago!)
I'm rating this thread a 3--still somewhat murky, without clear procedure to solution.

Thread is dead.
From rbrband57. This endeavor seems dead.
I still believe that replacing software/firmware is the key to getting the K70 to run better--the hardware likely is pretty good. I've been able to disable PRC bloatware, via some helpful cleanup software from GP. I'd like to uninstall. The loader at cold boot takes forever--I'd like to crucify that.
I'll reinstall kingoroot yet again, but I still don't know how to proceed further. Root confirm software says then rooted, but can't get SuperSu on--which might indicate true root, after all. Still not much info online.
My experience with rooting in the past was with a cheapo Icecream Polaroid 4.3" screen device from Big Lots: Full step-by-step procedure in one site, etc. Put a valid, new, upgraded .apk ROM on. Nothing can help the underpowered much, though--single core, 1GHz, perhaps, and 512MB sys mem.. GP worked sporadically afterwards--not really very well. Sold it to a guy in CA for his kid's Xmas last year.
Thanks for trying--Amazon no longer offers--K77, instead. Probably pretty much identical--hated, as well.

What does one need to do to root a Verizon Note 5? Why hasn't it been rooted yet?

Hello friends,
I'm in the same boat as many of you -- I purchased several Note 5's new from Verizon and then learned that they are not readily rootable....which prevents me from using their full functionality. Irritating.
I have a decent amount of experience with software development/reverse engineering/breaking things/making things work...but I've never messed around with phone firmware before. Usually I connect directly to the hardware chips via JTAG or similar to dump/upload the modified images. I don't really want to crack these sealed phones open though... surely there must be a way to dump/image the phone via the data port? I've read that Note 5 for other carriers are rootable, so how does dumping/uploading bins work for them? What is different about Verizon's model? Are they requiring digitally signed bins? Also I've seen a few people mention Knox....if Knox is tripped does it blow a fuse or can it be reset?
Thx
A

Samsung Knox gets tripped and effectively bricks the device the second it detects root. It blows a fuse. Dead phone.

If you have to ask this question then rooting is not something you need! =D Coming from rooting every phone for the past 5 years, I haven't had a need to root this phone. Granted there are a few things NOT working because of verizon nit picking hsit in the build. Fonts not working for one, nothing that is really a deal breaker. I def dont miss the flashing of builds every week/month, keeping things updated and waiting on developers. Google is smart enough to listen to its consumers and for the most part every new build of android has vast improvements and functionality.. rooting for the most part will be so that you can control the hardware and do whatever you want with your phone, which I believe that is how it should be...i ve stuck with verizon because of the quality of service they provide. Awesome speeds, damn near accessible everywhere, havent had a dropped call in YEARS. But from a tech standpoint, they are a bit ridiculous when it comes to their hardware. I hope they release a line of phones that are rootable and still keep a "protected" option for those who dont want phones that can be tampered with by rooting, security issues, etc.. who knows.. but i wouldnt hold your breath waiting on root for this phone.. best bet is the note 7 coming out and hope a root is found.. but, I imagine its going to just get harder and harder for developers with encryption and new securities..

DaRkL3AD3R said:
Samsung Knox gets tripped and effectively bricks the device the second it detects root. It blows a fuse. Dead phone.
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Nah it doesn't brick the phone! That's just to scare the crap out of people and make them not even want to risk it period!
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ars0n said:
If you have to ask this question then rooting is not something you need! =D Coming from rooting every phone for the past 5 years, I haven't had a need to root this phone. Granted there are a few things NOT working because of verizon nit picking hsit in the build. Fonts not working for one, nothing that is really a deal breaker. I def dont miss the flashing of builds every week/month, keeping things updated and waiting on developers. Google is smart enough to listen to its consumers and for the most part every new build of android has vast improvements and functionality.. rooting for the most part will be so that you can control the hardware and do whatever you want with your phone, which I believe that is how it should be...i ve stuck with verizon because of the quality of service they provide. Awesome speeds, damn near accessible everywhere, havent had a dropped call in YEARS. But from a tech standpoint, they are a bit ridiculous when it comes to their hardware. I hope they release a line of phones that are rootable and still keep a "protected" option for those who dont want phones that can be tampered with by rooting, security issues, etc.. who knows.. but i wouldnt hold your breath waiting on root for this phone.. best bet is the note 7 coming out and hope a root is found.. but, I imagine its going to just get harder and harder for developers with encryption and new securities..
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Lol.. I was gonna say hmm, what should one do... HmMmm ... How about read around the the Verizon thread?! Because all those questions have already been answered!

ars0n said:
If you have to ask this question then rooting is not something you need! =D Coming from rooting every phone for the past 5 years, I haven't had a need to root this phone. Granted there are a few things NOT working because of Verizon nit picking hsit in the build. Fonts not working for one, nothing that is really a deal breaker. I def don't miss the flashing of builds every week/month, keeping things updated and waiting on developers. Google is smart enough to listen to its consumers and for the most part every new build of android has vast improvements and functionality.. rooting for the most part will be so that you can control the hardware and do whatever you want with your phone, which I believe that is how it should be...i've stuck with Verizon because of the quality of service they provide. Awesome speeds, damn near accessible everywhere, haven't had a dropped call in YEARS. But from a tech standpoint, they are a bit ridiculous when it comes to their hardware. I hope they release a line of phones that are rootable and still keep a "protected" option for those who don't want phones that can be tampered with by rooting, security issues, etc.. who knows.. but i wouldn't hold your breath waiting on root for this phone.. best bet is the note 7 coming out and hope a root is found.. but, I imagine its going to just get harder and harder for developers with encryption and new securities..
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I understand and agree about the flashing and dealing with the bugs on new roms. All I want is the ability to delete apps I don't want. I know debloaters are out there and they work and that's great and thanks to their developers. I think we are owned the freedom to delete what we don't want. It's like the cable companies sticking us with shows we never want or watch.

pbman1953 said:
I understand and agree about the flashing and dealing with the bugs on new roms. All I want is the ability to delete apps I don't want. I know debloaters are out there and they work and that's great and thanks to their developers. I think we are owned the freedom to delete what we don't want. It's like the cable companies sticking us with shows we never want or watch.
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I used to feel that way. I used to root every phone I got (if I could) just so I could use Titanium backup to first disable apps and then if I had no problems, uninstall them. Bu with my Note 5 I've concluded it would be a waste of time, even if I could do it. I use Package Disabler Pro (as do many on this forum) and no, it doesn't actually delete apps. They are still there taking up space. but they don't run and unless you are critically short of space, the actual space they consume is minimal. My only complaint against Pakcage Disabler is that I wish it worked on my Asus tablet. but alas, it only woks on Samsung devices.

ratman6161 said:
I used to feel that way. I used to root every phone I got (if I could) just so I could use Titanium backup to first disable apps and then if I had no problems, uninstall them. Bu with my Note 5 I've concluded it would be a waste of time, even if I could do it. I use Package Disabler Pro (as do many on this forum) and no, it doesn't actually delete apps. They are still there taking up space. but they don't run and unless you are critically short of space, the actual space they consume is minimal. My only complaint against Pakcage Disabler is that I wish it worked on my Asus tablet. but alas, it only woks on Samsung devices.
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Has anyone compared Package Disabler to Debloater?

Yeah, Package Disabler is the way to go (IMO). You don't need a computer as with Debloater. Don't get me wrong, Debloater is great, but it's nice being able to disable apps on the go. Not to mention, Package Disabler allows you to export your lists of disabled apps to an XML file, so you can simply import the list back if you need to (say, after a factory reset). Just my thoughts.
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So I guess both are good. I wish there am was a place or apply tell you if you needed certain apps or not.

pbman1953 said:
So I guess both are good. I wish there am was a place or apply tell you if you needed certain apps or not.
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Has anyone Hurd about rooting on the Verizon note 5 I've been reading and can't find much, is it possible to root yet. Sorry if it's been asked I'm completely new to Verizon

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Has anyone Hurd about rooting on the Verizon note 5 I've been reading and can't find much, is it possible to root yet. Sorry if it's been asked I'm completely new to Verizon
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It's not rooted yet. There is something in the works, but nothing yet. We haven't given up yet.

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Has anyone Hurd about rooting on the Verizon note 5 I've been reading and can't find much, is it possible to root yet. Sorry if it's been asked I'm completely new to Verizon
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no root buddy if ure on mm mm requires bootloader unlock to root and between att and verizon they have the tightest locked bootloader of them all
i got rid of my note 5 but it was the first device that wasnt make or break over root like other posters said get s package disabler and ure good

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no root buddy if ure on mm mm requires bootloader unlock to root and between att and verizon they have the tightest locked bootloader of them all
i got rid of my note 5 but it was the first device that wasnt make or break over root like other posters said get s package disabler and ure good
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What's a package disabler

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What's a package disabler
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it disables all the bloatware on ure note 5 even without root saves loads of battery and speeds up the device in my opinion
this one works by being a device administrator and it lets u disable tons more stuff than in the standard application manager on the device

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it disables all the bloatware on ure note 5 even without root saves loads of battery and speeds up the device in my opinion
this one works by being a device administrator and it lets u disable tons more stuff than in the standard application manager on the device
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Could you point me in the right direction to get it, and will that allow me to root the phone

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Could you point me in the right direction to get it, and will that allow me to root the phone
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there is no root for the verizon version yet things always change if ure looking to root find another device.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...m6g1sybczeFvN8Nq0-ekxg&bvm=bv.144224172,d.eWE
this is where ive always gotten is from

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there is no root for the verizon version yet things always change if ure looking to root find another device.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...m6g1sybczeFvN8Nq0-ekxg&bvm=bv.144224172,d.eWE
this is where ive always gotten is from
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Thank you ill try it out

I soft bricked my Note 5 and then had problems flashing with ODIN. After I was able to flash though, the screen briefly showed an unlocked padlock. Is that typical? Is the bootloader rendered insecure when you upgrade for a brief window?