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Yes I am asking you!
Your personal experience on how you learned coding!
Feel free to vent, my eyes are wide open
my reason? Why I have a book on coding (for Andriod) and the coding package (Eclipse, Andriod SDK, and SO ON)
but is this enough?
How did you start? What was your motivation?
is it fun!?
Please if anyone replies to it, i'd be very happy
Many moons ago, there was a magazine called BBC Micro User, and in it there were pages and pages of code for games written in BASIC.
Normally the code was wrong in places, which meant you had to debug and therefore learn how it worked rather than just copying it verbatum.
This is of course related to our phones as the BBC B was an ancestor to them (now there's a thought!)
Problems? No problems! You need a small program to make your life easier? Go and read in all forums! Ask questions! Start programing by leaning by doing.
Mizulunaris said:
Yes I am asking you!
Your personal experience on how you learned coding!
Feel free to vent, my eyes are wide open
my reason? Why I have a book on coding (for Andriod) and the coding package (Eclipse, Andriod SDK, and SO ON)
but is this enough?
How did you start? What was your motivation?
is it fun!?
Please if anyone replies to it, i'd be very happy
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Why did you buy a book to find out about technology?!? That book will be outdated tomorrow...I suggest looking up info on the internet and there's this cool thing that's called google that lets you ask any question you want...check it out.
Hope this helped Mizu Luna!
Thank you all for relpying !
think the book is already out dated XD
It was made when android 2.2 just came out....I figured any info toget me startd would be nice.....
I still haven't gotten into the gist of the forum though.....I still don't know many of the terms and aren't familiar to a lot of things talked about...or where things are placed.....and no formal training to help me.....
I guess I'll read on a bit until I can properly place my feet
I couldn't even tell you how I started, I was like 8 years old and just playing around for the hell of it. Been switching around and trying languages ever since. As for motivation, the only reason I ever write a program is because I need something done... I'll feel like I wish my PC/phone/website did something differently - so I make it do that
Really, the best thing to do is just dive right into it. If you want to start with Android, find a good tutorial that at least has you get an IDE and build environment set up... Then from there just start experimenting with some example code, or apps others have written as you go through more tutorials.
If you want to properly learn how to code though, most would suggest starting with something on a PC rather than diving right into Android dev. Starting with an easy-to-use scripting language or interpreter (like Python) is a good way to start playing around - and then you can move on to other languages such as Java with a solid understanding of how programming languages work.
It's all personal preference though, just find a solid tutorial and stick with it. Try to experiment as you go along, try things with the code, and actually understand what it's telling you.
I started with webpage design and slowly moved into other venues. I became interested in making apps for ideas that I had and started to search google on how to code specific tasks that I wanted in my apps and then mixing it all together and making small changes in the code and watching to see what it did.
NEWBIE...Im fairly new into the developing world, but I have a solid background in anything computer orrientated. I started with a droid x, rooted it, and have never looked back. I'm taking java classes and learning as much as I can about programming. Any helpfull advice for someone starting a career/lifelong hobby in this feild? Reading a lot of books and blogs, but any other resources would be greatly appreciated.
Thx to all the professional devs out there who make it a fun digital world to cusomize!!!!
http://goo.gl/xB9rK
Lets start by using the search function.
This question gets asked and answered several times per week...
Personally i would skip the books.
I started by an idea in my mind what i wanted my app to do and taught myself through tutorials, stackoverflow, irc and lots of google...
Start something small, maybe an app that plays a single mp3 file.
Now you think, how can i choose different ones -> make a file explorer.
And so on... kinda like reading wikipedia, you start with some topic but end up in another topic far away ;-).
Thats if you want to program apps... there are lots of types of devs.... apps, roms, themes, kernel...
Now don't say you want to learn everything .
Thanks & more
Thanks for being the first to reply! And also for the info. I've done a little programming, vb and java, but am more interested in the rom/kernal side of things. Seen the vid before! Awesome!
I tried searching the site for what I'm looking for but unsuccesfull, figured the best way to get forward in this site, and get specific info, was to post a thread in one of the only places I could. Reread the rules and newbie posts, and figured out the reasons but they dont bother meat all.
Guess I'm looking more of an answer to this question, from everyone who replies:
How did u get to where u are now? (be it app dev, device help, other software dev)
Again thx for the help! P.S. what software do u use to program? And which os is preferred, linux, windows, mac?
I'm learning linux as fast as I can and wouldn't mind help there either if its out there.
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I started with knowledge in C++,C,SystemC and some script languages from university + plus some knowledge about programming in general.
We had to use java in the university but i never properly learned it (just couldnt be bothered). I knew the ideas behind it and some concepts.
I actually only started learning java after i had written the exams (one which was about java but thank god didn't require actual working code in the exam ).
This was winter 2010.
So after i no longer had to learn it, i wanted to learn it and started out pretty basic.
Used google alot tried the basic tutorials, i.e. button doing something and so on.
After that got boring i was looking for an app with an actual purpose.
I made a voice recording app, did some bounty requests, wrote a control app for a modification from another xda member and some other stuff, cba to list it all now .
I use the android sdk + eclipse. Currently on windows 7, but that doesn't really matter. I've got a laptop with linux and a virtual machine with it too. It just that i also play video games for which windows is somewhat required and so i'm programming on it too. But it doesn't really matter. Eclipse and android sdk don't really differ on the OSs.
For compiling kernels, you might need linux, but maybe its possible under windows too... (cygwin)... don't really know ;-)
The thing is, you don't need to read 5 books, have 2 degrees in X to start.
Let's take custom ROMs.
No one actually builds those things from scratch.
90% of them are just other ROMs(custom or stock) that have been modified to some extend.
Download a ROM, unpack it, swap some files, change some scripts/configs, maybe recolor some things, add some extra apps, maybe a different kernel.
Repack it and XING you made a custom ROM.. now just flash it and see if it works, if it doesn't... well try again
Trial&Error...
You will get more knowledge about what you can change and what can be done with the time.
There is a custom ROM tutorial thread somewhere on xda, just search for it.
I'm going to write a little bit on my next app now
Hello, xdaDevelopers (Is it like that? Or XDADevelopers, or XdaDevelopers, well, doesn't matter, you can leave your opinion about that here, too.)!
I can see this is kinda a common thing around here, but, I really need the basics for programming, with a final goal of being able to make code for Android (from APKs to ROMs and such).
I just need people to point out good sources of learning, with a learning curve, please, that would be a great bonus in understanding what the heck I'm learning, from the basic of basic, to the goal here intended.
Maybe this is a bit too ambitious, but I pretend to be a professional programmer in the future, but I still have a kinda long way to college (3 years), and I wish I could start sooner that, it could even make my college life even simpler.
Well, I hope you leave your enlightenment in this thread. Thank you very much for any opinion given here.
*bump* Sorry. It was already in the second page. I just didn't want it to fall into oblivion.
Well your going to have to stsrt learnibg java if you want to make apps. Read some books. Also take a look at thenewboston channel on youtube.
Im learning myself. You just need to start and don't give up
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I'm also posting (lazy way of subscribing to this post). I knew java, although it was long ago. I'd need a refresh on everything. And then, knowing java is not the only thing you need, as you also need to know how to develop for android itself. Up to date, which book would you guys consider the most easy to follow to learn easily to program?
Thank you!
Yes. I'm asking for links or books (preferably e-books) that could have all that information. I just hope I can become a great XDA developer.
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I just need people to point out good sources of learning
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+1 to this. i would also like to get into learning how to develop for android.
google has a lot of info on their developers page, it's probably one of the better places to start.
i don't know many other good websites or books though. anyone have suggestions?
If you want to develop Application on Android. You will need...
1.JDK (Java Development Kit), which includes the JRE. ( I use Java SE 7 )
2.Eclipse with the Android Development ( I use Eclipse Classic 3.7.1 )
3.Android Development tools ADT Plugin for Eclipse
( I use android-sdk_r13-windows.zip )
more detail http://androidcontrol.blogspot.com/2011/10/android-development.html
java for the user interface "pretty" part of the apps, but the real heavy-lifting guts of the app (where the real magic happens) will normally be written in c
Tech_Boy said:
Well your going to have to stsrt learnibg java if you want to make apps. Read some books. Also take a look at thenewboston channel on youtube.
Im learning myself. You just need to start and don't give up
Sent from my Galaxy SII
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I'm watching these. These are great. Starting with Java Development.
I have just started looking around and researching a bit on what exactly goes into app development and since I am an Android lover, clearly looking to develop Android apps. I am typically pretty good at picking this stuff up, but would like some advice and opinions on where to start. I've looked up some stuff and installed Eclipse along with AndroidSDK because that seemed like a popular choice (sound about right?). I'm not 100% certain on what I'd be developing to begin with, something basic to start would seem logical, and then move on to more advanced projects. Any suggestions? I'm willing to put the work in, but where to start? Some of the how to's I've seen are somewhat dated, even if only a year old I'm looking to start with current firmware. As far as frameworks go, are they typically a better idea to start with or should I build something myself from scratch if I'm really looking to get into this? Also, feel free to redirect me if this would fit in better under a different topic but I think it works here. Any other dev programs I should look into installing? I'm running Windows 8 and think most if not all programs should run correctly on it. Any help/advice is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
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Don't have any programing skill please advice me more on apps and more to use
First you have to learn Java then it will be easier for you to choose what you have to do!
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OP, you've got the right attitude so with a bit of effort in digging up answers to the basic questions you'll soon figure out what you need to do. There's no need to learn Java before creating an Android project, learning both concurrently is fine, although you'll be faced with two (kinda vertical) learning curves, but it is most definitely possible.
You've got the right software for a start, but I wouldn't worry about guides being out of date - using APIs from the older SDK versions is fine. It's hard to recommend a path without knowing your goals, but starting out depends on how much coding experience you have, and your goals. For instance, making a Hello World app in an Android activity that prints out text might be a start, then figuring out how to specify the UI (add buttons for interactivity etc), separation of concerns, et al. Or if you're interested in games, start out by drawing rectangles on screen, moving them, creating Pong.
If you're making vanilla Android apps i'd stay away from frameworks initially until you figure out the raw basics - but this probably doesn't apply for games, in which case you probably wanna pick up LibGDX or something and read a ton of blog and StackOverflow posts until you get something on the screen.
Half the trick is figuring out how to Google the right questions - if you're finding decent StackOverflow answers, you're on the right track.
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I have just started looking around and researching a bit on what exactly goes into app development and since I am an Android lover, clearly looking to develop Android apps. I am typically pretty good at picking this stuff up, but would like some advice and opinions on where to start. I've looked up some stuff and installed Eclipse along with AndroidSDK because that seemed like a popular choice (sound about right?). I'm not 100% certain on what I'd be developing to begin with, something basic to start would seem logical, and then move on to more advanced projects. Any suggestions? I'm willing to put the work in, but where to start? Some of the how to's I've seen are somewhat dated, even if only a year old I'm looking to start with current firmware. As far as frameworks go, are they typically a better idea to start with or should I build something myself from scratch if I'm really looking to get into this? Also, feel free to redirect me if this would fit in better under a different topic but I think it works here. Any other dev programs I should look into installing? I'm running Windows 8 and think most if not all programs should run correctly on it. Any help/advice is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
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Good to know that you're interested in Android Development.
Since you say that you have No programming experience..I suggest you go like this ...
Start with a simple basic language, like C (to know how programming generally happens)
Move on to an Object Oriented Programming Language,like C++ (to know about the concepts of Objects,Methods etc)
Start with the basics of Java
Head on to https://developer.android.com/ and read about Android App Dev Basics
Download the Android SDK from http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html and install it
Choose your favorite IDE, Eclipse or Android Studio
Start with a basic app
And Experiment !!! ANd Enjoy !! :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:
I wish you All The Best !! :good: :good: :laugh:
I hope to see your first app soon ! :fingers-crossed:
I have been using teamtreehouse.com and it has been amazing. Its a paid service but for only $25 a month it has been worth it. It not only shows you from 0 skills to launched app. It also has the business side and other programs. I highly recommend it at least for 1 month so you can get started.
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I recommend you to start learning Java and not learning C/C++. Java is easy-to-learn language and you don't have to know anything about object programming, you can program in Java without that too (but please only for learning).
It won't take long time until you understand methods and so on and you can start with object oriented programing.
Imnice777 said:
I have just started looking around and researching a bit on what exactly goes into app development and since I am an Android lover, clearly looking to develop Android apps. I am typically pretty good at picking this stuff up, but would like some advice and opinions on where to start. I've looked up some stuff and installed Eclipse along with AndroidSDK because that seemed like a popular choice (sound about right?). I'm not 100% certain on what I'd be developing to begin with, something basic to start would seem logical, and then move on to more advanced projects. Any suggestions? I'm willing to put the work in, but where to start? Some of the how to's I've seen are somewhat dated, even if only a year old I'm looking to start with current firmware. As far as frameworks go, are they typically a better idea to start with or should I build something myself from scratch if I'm really looking to get into this? Also, feel free to redirect me if this would fit in better under a different topic but I think it works here. Any other dev programs I should look into installing? I'm running Windows 8 and think most if not all programs should run correctly on it. Any help/advice is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
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Participates in following communities as well, from there you can extract some ideas to work on
https://sellanapp.com/
http://www.newappidea.com/
niranjan94 said:
Good to know that you're interested in Android Development.
Since you say that you have No programming experience..I suggest you go like this ...
Start with a simple basic language, like C (to know how programming generally happens)
Move on to an Object Oriented Programming Language,like C++ (to know about the concepts of Objects,Methods etc)
Start with the basics of Java
Head on to https://developer.android.com/ and read about Android App Dev Basics
Download the Android SDK from http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html and install it
Choose your favorite IDE, Eclipse or Android Studio
Start with a basic app
And Experiment !!! ANd Enjoy !! :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:
I wish you All The Best !! :good: :good: :laugh:
I hope to see your first app soon ! :fingers-crossed:
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Umm I think C might be a bit advanced for this guy to start off with I would say what i say to anyone wanting to get into programming is start off with python then move on to something like C# with .NET and then move to java or go straight from python to java, Java was my first language everything you said was right but i don't think throwing this guy in the deep end is a good way to get him excited about programming.
Failed to load JNI shared library
I've programmed some with Java and recently started app development with Eclipse. I ran into trouble with "git". I thought I'd blown the environment setup, so I removed Eclipse and installed the "bundle" as suggested in a Jan 2014 thread. When I tried to start Eclipse, the subject message popped up, along with "C:\Users\Anne\AndroidDev\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20140321\eclipse\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll"
Is this a problem with PATH or ? I'm running Windows 7 - 64bit.
Thanks.
Your Advice on Android App Development
Hello!
So I was hoping to get the advice on a few things regarding android app development from those of you are app developers. I am just now learning Java, learning Android Studios/IntelliJIDEA and I have no teacher (I use Lynda.com, TeamTreeHouse, and other resources) so I'd like to get the opinions and thoughts of others who have already created an app, do so all the time, or are working on their first app. In general, I am looking to get some answers from those who already know what to do and have done it before. I want to be sure I am doing things the right way. Or at the very least I want to be doing things the best possible way I can. So my questions:
What IDE do you use? (Android Studios/IntelliJ IDEA, Unity, etc)
Did you learn Java before building your First App?
Did you learn XML before Building your first App?
Where did you learn about the languages and technologies required? (Lynda.com, TeamTreeHouse.com, NewBoston, etc)
Are there any resources you can recommend to me as a beginner who has not yet built his first app?
If there is a question you can think of that I did not ask that might help please let me know.
Thank you for answering these questions!
I really want to make sure that I approach this the right way and that if I am going to commit myself to it I do so in a way that works, is tried, tested, and true. I want to make quality applications and I want to know what I'm doing while doing it. = )
Anyway, answering any of these questions would be truly helpful and I would appreciate it very much. Thank you!
Regards,
DevelopDan