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GS3DebugFSRoot Bloat Free?

My first post!!!
Anyway, I wanted to know if the GS3DebugFSRoot rooting method removes all the bloat on the phone? Should I just go with this method or should I go the Odin method?

MisterBigs said:
My first post!!!
Anyway, I wanted to know if the GS3DebugFSRoot rooting method removes all the bloat on the phone? Should I just go with this method or should I go the Odin method?
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First, Welcome to XDA!
Back to your question, I am pretty sure that the GS3DebugFSRoot rooting method does not remove all the bloat from the phone. I personally think that the rooting method is better than the odin method, because it is faster and is a smaller download (waaaay smaller). However, the root you get from GS3DebugFSRoot is as good as any other root (because of the way root works). You can use that root access to remove the bloat you do not want.
In addition, after using Noxious Ninja's root method, you can use the root you get to flash a recovery to your phone, which you can use from there to flash many roms/mods/hacks/themes/etc such as CyanogenMod

It doesn't remove anything, just adds root/SU.

Thanks mustbepbs and yosterwp.
yosterwp, you lost me there. Isn't here a major thread of bricking or some other damage to the phone if I start removing some of the bloat myself? If I root the phone how would I know what can be safely removed?
Here is a list of what I'm looking for:
I want to be able to install APKs
I don't want any of the bloat from Verizon or Samsung
I would like to us HotSpot tethering
I don't think I need any custom mods
I do would like the ability to set it back to stock (with no trace of it having been rooted if possible)

Whoops! I guess a went a bit ahead of myself in that post. I'll look into your list in the order the criteria is put.
1. Umm, I believe you can install any apk you want even without root access (Go to Settings > Security > Unknown Sources and check the box). Now if the application requires SU, that's a different story and need SU access.
2. [This answers one of your main concerns too] I forgot where I found this thread, but I bookmarked this spreadsheet on Google Docs. It is a table showing what is safe to remove, what's risky to remove, and what you should not remove. However, if you are rooting for the sake of flashing a custom ROM, then you should forget removing the bloat, as the custom rom should be devoid of bloat to start.
3. HotSpot Tethering should already be on your phone without root or anything... Go to Settings > Mobile Hotspot.
3.5. If you are talking about not using that (because your plan prohibits it) --I'd rather not be the one who encourages violating contracts...
4. If you want to return to stock without a trace of being rooted, get ready for a HUGE download. Go to this thread and use your preferred downloading method. And remember to grab Odin from the link on the page. Thank the OP if you can. Then boot your phone into download mode. [(in computer with phone plugged in) adb reboot download] and then fire up Odin. In odin, hit PDA and then navigate to the large download. Finally just to make sure the flash counter appears to have not changed, go to this thread.
You should be good to go from there. I make no guarantee that my instructions will work for you, but it should point you in the right direction. And if you have any questions, let the forum know!

Wow! thanks for all the info.
One more question. What's your take on whether I need a Recovery tool?
I'm a software developer (web and Windows) and am planning on getting into coding on Android so I'm also looking for a crash course for that too. If you have a link for that I would greatly appreciate it.

MisterBigs said:
Wow! thanks for all the info.
One more question. What's your take on whether I need a Recovery tool?
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Just have Odin installed and on hand. While the easy root solution is nice, it's still a good idea to be familiar with Odin as you're going to NEED it if you get yourself in a pickle or want to go back to fully stock.

MisterBigs said:
Wow! thanks for all the info.
One more question. What's your take on whether I need a Recovery tool?
I'm a software developer (web and Windows) and am planning on getting into coding on Android so I'm also looking for a crash course for that too. If you have a link for that I would greatly appreciate it.
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If by recovery tool, you mean Odin, then i definitely would suggest getting Odin and the stock images for your phone. Hopefully you will never need it, but it is always good to have on hand. Familiarize yourself with it, especially if you are rooted.
If you are talking about a recovery partition, that is a definite must have when rooted! You can make complete backups of your phone in case something goes wrong as well. And it can do much more.
Now for the android crash course
If you are talking about developing apps, there is a user on YouTube, mybringback, who does excellent videos on developing apps on android for absolute beginners like me. I am not the greatest Dev (in C++ and Java), but his videos gave me a good foot into Java.
If you are talking about developing for the actual android system, then honestly, I have no clue. Many places will tell you how to download and build the source, but not much else... I am still trying to find a site that explains the source...
Hope that helps
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Cool. Thanks guys.
I'll be watching some videos now

A Different "Root Jelly Bean" question

This might belong in the other "[Root] Jelly Bean" thread - I'll leave that to the moderators to figure out.
Can anyone vouch for the veracity of this method?
tutznet. com/ root-asus-transformer-tf700-android-41-jelly-bean. html (forgive the extra spaces - I'm too new to be able to post a URL.]
Honestly, I read all 39+ pages of that thread mentioned above, and I'm not confident I know what to do, and in what order, so I'm leery of trying it out. A noob like me can easily create an expensive brick if I screw it up. But this one seems sort of "plug-n-play" and is appealing for that reason. If you folks here validate it, I might try it out.

n4ogl said:
This might belong in the other "[Root] Jelly Bean" thread - I'll leave that to the moderators to figure out.
Can anyone vouch for the veracity of this method?
tutznet. com/ root-asus-transformer-tf700-android-41-jelly-bean. html (forgive the extra spaces - I'm too new to be able to post a URL.]
Honestly, I read all 39+ pages of that thread mentioned above, and I'm not confident I know what to do, and in what order, so I'm leery of trying it out. A noob like me can easily create an expensive brick if I screw it up. But this one seems sort of "plug-n-play" and is appealing for that reason. If you folks here validate it, I might try it out.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32293050&postcount=1
That would be a portion of the method laid out in the above thread...

n4ogl said:
This might belong in the other "[Root] Jelly Bean" thread - I'll leave that to the moderators to figure out.
Can anyone vouch for the veracity of this method?
tutznet. com/ root-asus-transformer-tf700-android-41-jelly-bean. html (forgive the extra spaces - I'm too new to be able to post a URL.]
Honestly, I read all 39+ pages of that thread mentioned above, and I'm not confident I know what to do, and in what order, so I'm leery of trying it out. A noob like me can easily create an expensive brick if I screw it up. But this one seems sort of "plug-n-play" and is appealing for that reason. If you folks here validate it, I might try it out.
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The instruction is assumed that you already unlocked and have custom recovery installed. If you provide your setup we can help.
1. Are you unlocked?
2. Do you have custom recovery installed like either twrp or cwm?
3. What os version you are running currently? I assumed you're on JB?

Thanks for the offer of assistance. I bought the TF700 on ICS, and immediately did the following (based on advice I hopefully gleaned correctly from this board):
- Factory Data Reset three times (by booting with the volume key held down, etc.), even wtih nothing personal done to it (like add my name as Owner, or install anything).
- Loaded the full update downloaded from the ASUS site and flashed (correct term?) accordingly. Those instructions, at least, I could figure out.
- Another FDR.
- Used as normal on the current version of JB. I believe it had a minor JB upgrade shortly after that, which I let it perform through the "You have an update" process.
As it sits, the TF700 works quite well for me, but I use Titanium Backup on my Droid Razr Maxx (for which I rooted using one of those "automated root" programs that worked well), and I'd like to use it here. And Root File Manager (also found on the Droid).
As a noob, the instructions for that other method (using CWM and SuperSU) look like they presume too much knowledge on my part of what to install and when, and I'm leery of creating an expensive brick. For example, there is something in there about "fastboot," but that is completely over my head.
buhohitr said:
The instruction is assumed that you already unlocked and have custom recovery installed. If you provide your setup we can help.
1. Are you unlocked?
2. Do you have custom recovery installed like either twrp or cwm?
3. What os version you are running currently? I assumed you're on JB?
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n4ogl said:
Thanks for the offer of assistance. I bought the TF700 on ICS, and immediately did the following (based on advice I hopefully gleaned correctly from this board):
- Factory Data Reset three times (by booting with the volume key held down, etc.), even wtih nothing personal done to it (like add my name as Owner, or install anything).
- Loaded the full update downloaded from the ASUS site and flashed (correct term?) accordingly. Those instructions, at least, I could figure out.
- Another FDR.
- Used as normal on the current version of JB. I believe it had a minor JB upgrade shortly after that, which I let it perform through the "You have an update" process.
As it sits, the TF700 works quite well for me, but I use Titanium Backup on my Droid Razr Maxx (for which I rooted using one of those "automated root" programs that worked well), and I'd like to use it here. And Root File Manager (also found on the Droid).
As a noob, the instructions for that other method (using CWM and SuperSU) look like they presume too much knowledge on my part of what to install and when, and I'm leery of creating an expensive brick. For example, there is something in there about "fastboot," but that is completely over my head.
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It's not that complicated, if you have someone leaded you. Again, I need you to answer the following question, so I can point you to the right direction; Do you plan to use custom rom/kernel? (if yes, you need to unlock your device, which void warantty) or you just want root?

buhohitr said:
It's not that complicated, if you have someone leaded you. Again, I need you to answer the following question, so I can point you to the right direction; Do you plan to use custom rom/kernel? (if yes, you need to unlock your device, which void warantty) or you just want root?
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All I want to do is root it. While I know there are some advantages to a custom ROM or Kernel, that's NOT what I forecast doing*. I plan to leave it on JB.
* = Caveat: Eventually ASUS will stop supporting this tablet, at which time I will probably look at custom ROMs if I still own it (and haven't EBay'd it).

n4ogl said:
All I want to do is root it. While I know there are some advantages to a custom ROM or Kernel, that's NOT what I forecast doing*. I plan to leave it on JB.
* = Caveat: Eventually ASUS will stop supporting this tablet, at which time I will probably look at custom ROMs if I still own it (and haven't EBay'd it).
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Since you already on JB, the only way you could root is to downgrade back to ICS (version .30). Here is general guide line:
1. Download full package firmware .30 from Asus site
2. Then use root tool to root,
3. Download and installed SuperSU to replace the old superuser
4. Download Voodoo OTA root keeper to preserve root (If you have a paid SuperSU version, you just have to click on "preserve root" and it automatically saved root for you).
5. Let the OTA upgrade to JB
6. Once done, use root keeper to restore root.
Here is the link to details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212

buhohitr said:
Since you already on JB, the only way you could root is to downgrade back to ICS (version .30). Here is general guide line:
1. Download full package firmware .30 from Asus site
2. Then use root tool to root,
3. Download and installed SuperSU to replace the old superuser
4. Download Voodoo OTA root keeper to preserve root (If you have a paid SuperSU version, you just have to click on "preserve root" and it automatically saved root for you).
5. Let the OTA upgrade to JB
6. Once done, use root keeper to restore root.
Here is the link to details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212
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not true my friend
you can unroot without downgrading to version .30
just take a look in the general section there is a HOWTO
sent from my cutting board

jokapo said:
not true my friend
you can unroot without downgrading to version .30
just take a look in the general section there is a HOWTO
sent from my cutting board
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I think he's looking to ROOT, but not to unlock!

I rooted and unlocked allready on JB
sent from my cutting board

Could you share the steps/sequence (in detail, not like the way they are described in that 40+ page thread, which is (IMHO) sparsely)?
jokapo said:
I rooted and unlocked allready on JB
sent from my cutting board
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Might wanna try out this thread then http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1969303

Rooting and then recovering to stock - How to?

I am thinking of rooting my note 10.1 (GT-N8010). I understand how to root it, since I have read through a few threads about that, but my question is about when, or IF, I'd want to return the software to stock. I have never done this before, so I need practically all help and tips regarding reversing the rooting.
1. What must I do BEFORE rooting the tablet?
2. After I have rooted it and installed a rom, How do I unroot the tablet and install stock android?
Again, I need all tips and please don't use abbreviations. Thank you

Sari95 said:
I am thinking of rooting my note 10.1 (GT-N8010). I understand how to root it, since I have read through a few threads about that, but my question is about when, or IF, I'd want to return the software to stock. I have never done this before, so I need practically all help and tips regarding reversing the rooting.
1. What must I do BEFORE rooting the tablet?
2. After I have rooted it and installed a rom, How do I unroot the tablet and install stock android?
Again, I need all tips and please don't use abbreviations. Thank you
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If you make a nandroid backup right after you install your custom recovery going back to stock is as easy as flashing the nandriod any time you want to go back.Alternatively,you could download the stock rom from http://www.sammobile.com and flash the md5 file in odin to get back to stock.Read up on this stuff in the 10.1 general and development forum threads because there is way too much information to type it all in this post.You will find everything you need to know in these threads including walk through videos.

[Q] Concerning German JB and multiwindow apps

Hey all! This is my first time rooting an android device (Galaxy tab 10.1 N8013 in USA), and I wanted to first say thanks for all of the super helpful walk throughs!
My main reason for posting to ask a question is just to get a final answer concerning the german JB ROM for the 8013. I'll just bullet my concerns:
1. If I flash using PC Odin, I will not have to root my device. From there, I will be able to install the multiwindow application from TheSanitarium. However, the cons of this (depending on your view), are that one cannot get OTA updates, and may need to install an app to set the device to show that it is not modified. Is this correct?
2. If I desired to use this application: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069173, what ROMs fit this criterion: "You need to be on a rooted deodex XXCLL3 ROM preferably unmodified framework files."? I noticed some posters said they are running redemption in their posts in that subject, and that in the youtube video from the first post the, "Dr Akrim" MOD is mentioned
3. Alternatively, if I use this method for multi-windowed apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079807, do I just need to flash to the German 4.1.2 ROM WITHOUT a root? And if so, will I need to get triangle reset? And if I go this particular path, and I desire to get back to the 4.0.4 build, I just flash to the stock from samfirmware (with Odin)?
3. If I do need a MOD, I'm hoping to keep s-pen function witth evernote, mind mapping apps, lecture notes, s-note, and be able to watch videos or open gmail while taking notes as I peruse presentations (I work in the medical field, and bought this tablet with this in mind). Which ROM will allow me to do that?
4. Last, just asking for a confirmation I have this right (I have referenced the how to guides). If a root is necessary, follow the advice here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831152 with the clockwork MOD so I can restore my device if it bricks. From there, download PC Odin, and then upgrade to german JB from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2016792. Is this all correct?
Thanks all!

IMO #3 is the way to go. You don't need root to flash the ROM, but you'll need it for the program itself to actually work. But that's super simple with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050297

midas69 said:
IMO #3 is the way to go. You don't need root to flash the ROM, but you'll need it for the program itself to actually work. But that's super simple with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050297
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Thanks for the reply!In regards to using ExynosAbuse APK v1.40, I'm reading at the end of the comments that some people are showing modified devices. If that happens, should I just flash a stock ROM? I found one in the forums.

hradeksign said:
Thanks for the reply!In regards to using ExynosAbuse APK v1.40, I'm reading at the end of the comments that some people are showing modified devices. If that happens, should I just flash a stock ROM? I found one in the forums.
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It will show custom because you're running a ROM not designed for your device. It will show modified because you're rooted. Triangle Away will get rid of the modified. But if you flash a stock ROM you'll lose the capabilities you're trying to achieve, at least until they release 4.1.2 for the 8013.

[Q] Which root

Hello,
My GT-P5100 is currently on stock 4.0.3. I would like to root it, but I have no idea which guide to follow. I found these 3 to be somehow equally good:
1st: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657056
2nd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101044
3rd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957165
Which one would you recommend to me? What are the main differences? I do however plan to flash other ROM and kernel if that helps with decision.
Oh, and the last question - will I use any data with rooting?
Thanks!

krneki10 said:
Hello,
My GT-P5100 is currently on stock 4.0.3. I would like to root it, but I have no idea which guide to follow. I found these 3 to be somehow equally good:
1st: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657056
2nd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101044
3rd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957165
Which one would you recommend to me? What are the main differences? I do however plan to flash other ROM and kernel if that helps with decision.
Oh, and the last question - will I use any data with rooting?
Thanks!
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Follow which ever guide you find the easiest to understand, there is no right or wrong way to root - I'm not an expert so i'm not sure on the differences.
however i used CF Root when i rooted my tab (now updated to CF-Auto_Root) <--- so that would be my recommendation.
I would not use the 2nd link you posted as they are for different versions of the tab you're wanting to root.
the last question, i dont understand much (maybe that's just me) do you mean use data as in 3g? or loose data like files and things? to be honest it wont matter, because rooting won't affect either. Flashing custom roms will affect your personal data.
PLEASE - once rooted, make a backup of your working rom, then backup your EFS folder - if that gets corrupy you have an expensive paper weight!

Thanks, I will try CF Auto Root. Should I install CWM after that? Is it needed for AOKP?

krneki10 said:
Thanks, I will try CF Auto Root. Should I install CWM after that? Is it needed for AOKP?
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CWM is a custom recovery which enables you to flash roms and make backups amongst other things. Please read up about them before you start rooting or flashing as you could end up rendering your tab useless if you don't know how to use it correctly. Did I mention backup. And backup your efs! If you don't your imei could get corrupt and you can't use the tabs data connection, wifi or bluetooth.

Let me recap the process:
1. Follow CF Auto Root process
2. Backup EFS (with stock recovery)
3. Backup ROM (with stock recovery)
4. Follow http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722063
5. Flash AOKP milestone 1: http://aokp.co/supported-devices/?id=17&device=p5100
Is that correct? Anything else I should take care of? But if I make backups with stock recovery, won't they be useless in CWM? Or do I have to redo them in CWM?
Thanks.

Errr, no you need to cf auto root, THEN flash cwm. Sorry if I wasn't clear in my last post, I was telling you to make a back up in cwm. You kind of need to flash cf auto root to gain root access from your 1st link then follow the 3rd link you posted to flash cwm. You need to download an app to backup your efs, cwm won't do that for you.

squ89r97 said:
Errr, no you need to cf auto root, THEN flash cwm. Sorry if I wasn't clear in my last post, I was telling you to make a back up in cwm. You kind of need to flash cf auto root to gain root access from your 1st link then follow the 3rd link you posted to flash cwm. You need to download an app to backup your efs, cwm won't do that for you.
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Ok, so:
1. Follow CF Auto Root process
2. Flash CWM with Odin
3. Backup EFS
4. Flash AOKP milestone 1
But which app should I use for backup?

krneki10 said:
Ok, so:
1. Follow CF Auto Root process
2. Flash CWM with Odin
3. Backup EFS
3.2 - back up your rom.
4. Flash AOKP milestone 1
But which app should I use for backup?
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right, hear me out - are you sure you're ready to root your tab? only asking because all the info you need is on this forum but you don't seem really sure on how to do it. I dont want you to follow my advice (and that's all it is) then bugger up your tab.
have you tried searching google for back up efs? or looked on the play store? there is a tool called kTool.
Please do some more reading on what involves rooting and cwm and all it's processes, also read up on preventative measures to avoid bricking your device - no one wants that (you dont want to be another member posting in 2 weeks time saying you cant connect to any data)
sorry if i sound condescending, i just think reading all the info is much easier than getting a breakdown from someone else.
p.s i added 3.2 in your steps above - Don't forget to backup your rom (leaving something this simple out could be life or death )
good luck.

I'm already running on CM10.1, thanks for your help! Process is actually really simple, but instructions are bad and outdated.

krneki10 said:
I'm already running on CM10.1, thanks for your help! Process is actually really simple, but instructions are bad and outdated.
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feel free to make an updated guide :laugh: I myself have the (i think, the more common) P3110 - wifi only tab 2 7" - those guides are a little more up to date - just a quick note - cm10.1 is running 4.2.x - Most 4.2.x roms are less stable than 4.1.x roms meaning you may get some issues.
Glad it all worked out for you. happy flashing (ROMS )