Nexus S 4G extreme battery drain when powered completely off - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I don't get it. This morning on my way to school, I'm using my Nexus, sending a couple of texts and listening to music, yeah. So then when I get to class I power my Nexus S 4G off, I'm talking about holding power and pressing power off, off.
I turned it off next hour and my battery literally drained itself from a good 95% charge this morning to a 63%. The hell happened here? The phone wasn't even on!
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I've seen this a couple of times, vampire drain so long as the battery is attached (phone on/off irrelevant). Never got down to the root of the problem, i believe everyone who has had it ended up calling up samsung to get this sorted as it would be a hardware issue no doubt.
However, do test it again, as follows.
Control Test:
-Take battery out of phone, noting charge
-Sleep
-Put battery back into phone, noting charge
Vampire Test:
-Turn phone off, noting charge
-Take out battery, wait 2 minutes, replace battery
-Leave phone off and sleep (for the same amount of time preferably )
-Put battery back into phone, noting charge
No touching the charger 1 hour prior and before turning on. If there is a noticeable difference between the two tests, call samsung ASAP. Hopefully you're still under warranty.

Definitely a hardware fault
Harbb said:
I've seen this a couple of times, vampire drain so long as the battery is attached (phone on/off irrelevant). Never got down to the root of the problem, i believe everyone who has had it ended up calling up samsung to get this sorted as it would be a hardware issue no doubt
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I have exactly the same problem and proved it to be hardware thanks to your vampire test. (This was only after scrubbing through new apps I had installed to see if they were the cause, scrutinizing battery stats, installing a couple of different ROMs, and complete factory resets and everything - nothing solved it.)
My phone was working fine, then one day, a few weeks ago now, I noticed a sudden battery drain and instead of a day's worth of moderate use, it wouldn't last 5 hrs. Finally did the vampire test after seeing this post and discovered that with the phone completely powered off the battery would drain to nothing in < 6hrs. I verified this behavior with two batteries. The phone gets quite toasty as well, so it's got to be some sort of hardware short circuit causing a constant load on the battery.
Samsung said "send it in for repair" - I haven't done that yet, need to find out what that might cost compared to a new phone. (I'm using a company supplied phone meanwhile.)
Too bad, because I loved my Nexus S - perfect size and shape compared to all the new mini tablet phones out there.

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HTC s640 Battery Issues?

Hi Folks,
My s640 seems to have developed an issue with the battery. It will get to about 50% and stay there for most of the day then suddenly I get the low and critical warnings, then off. The warnings then off sequence happens within about 10 seconds of getting the first warning. On one occasion I got the low and critical warnings, but then the phone reported 268% battery remaining.
Is/has anyone else experienced this issue or anything similar? I'm wondering if it is the phone or the battery.
Thanks.
I am having the same trouble.
I'll fully Charge my battery and then disconnect it and us it for about 10 minutes and suddenly it will drop my call, turn off my bluetooth and disable the radio (network), and if I don't plug it in, within 30 seconds it shuts off. If I remove the battery, hold the power button for 5 seconds and the put the battery back in and turn it on then I have my battery shows 90+% free.
I'm not sure if it's the battery or the phone.
have you tried running the battery till it won't turn on the phone. Then charging it up again?
maybe a hard reset may help?
daroota said:
I am having the same trouble.
I'll fully Charge my battery and then disconnect it and us it for about 10 minutes and suddenly it will drop my call, turn off my bluetooth and disable the radio (network), and if I don't plug it in, within 30 seconds it shuts off. If I remove the battery, hold the power button for 5 seconds and the put the battery back in and turn it on then I have my battery shows 90+% free.
I'm not sure if it's the battery or the phone.
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Yes I too am having this issue since rom upgrade so is a friend, he just purchased new battery from Telus but they shipped wrong one. Will update if new battery resolves his issues. I went throught three phones with brand new battery they all did same thing Battery is not HTC 20 dolllar aftermarket one (just before warranty expired). Have gotten 400 credit for new phone but nothing like this one out there except Touch Pro Diamond and I hear even with new battery that phone battery life is too short to last through day. Get feeling Telus broke something in software with Rom update used to be when phone battery was expiring a red light would blink (opposite of blue tooth light) now it is only notifications from WM that phone battery is critically low and shuts of radio etc. yet you plug phone in and it's charged 10 minutes later makes no sense. Rechargable batteries voltage change with charge the interesting thing when I pull my battery the voltage is the same charged or just after error messages (I have a very expensive True RMS Voltmeter from work that has been calibrated in last year) but without load this isn't an accurate test. Does make me think something is not right and beleive it software related for more see my post in Howrds Forums under phone model.
I am having the same issue after the ROM update, not sure if it's the cause. Already replaced a battery on warranty for not holding charge. But now I have had the phone over a year so telus wants me to buy a battery for $80. I know based on this information i'll be wasting my money.
i want stuff to work for more than a year what the hell is money good for?
any fixes or updates wether the new battery helped??
I replaced the battery on my phone and these odd issue I was having are gone guess we have to face the fact that you need to purchase a replacement once a year hopefully it will last a year my problems start just short of a year.
I just got my new battery from here http://www.longlast-battery.com/productCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=0&idproduct=17483
I will post after I get it full charged and try it for a day or two
where did you get yours from?
well the battery didn't even last an hour on the way to work.
#1 it was similar but 2-3mm shorter than the OEM and barely touched the contacts on the phone.
#2 charged overnight ok and said 100% charged then withing 20min it said low battery then died shortly after
#3 would not charge a second time (on 2 of my wall chargers, two usb and 1 car charger) Just the red light would light up. Tried jiggling the battery but nothing not even a flashing red light.
so much for a battery bought from the US. Waiting for RMA
typhoonk said:
well the battery didn't even last an hour on the way to work.
#1 it was similar but 2-3mm shorter than the OEM and barely touched the contacts on the phone.
#2 charged overnight ok and said 100% charged then withing 20min it said low battery then died shortly after
#3 would not charge a second time (on 2 of my wall chargers, two usb and 1 car charger) Just the red light would light up. Tried jiggling the battery but nothing not even a flashing red light.
so much for a battery bought from the US. Waiting for RMA
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I purchased a battery from E-bay and it would not charge at all. Existing charge in battery was enough for me to know that my issues were battery related after all as phone lasted for quite awhile. Tried charging ebay battery for close to 12 hours no go, so returned it for full refund. Called Telus because my calls in were while I was under warranty still but it had since expired they credited my account for the price of battery over a couple of years (1.5 batteries really) to make up for battery not lasting more than a year...hope that makes sense. Doubt I will buy another HTC with todays battery technology there is no reason one of these batties can't last 2-3 years if taken care of. Just a money grab telus/htc on their part in my opinion.
Gave the battery I got from longlast-battery another try.
the battery is CS-DS640SL 1250mAh 3.7V
I got it to charge by turning off the phone and plugging it into a usb port on my PC. Took about 6 hours to charge to 100%.
Won't charge when phone is on which is weird. Even at 90+% charge.
Lasted a full day without charging. That's a good thing I guess. Even when I restarted, it didn't lose the typical 10% drop in charge the other battery does.
I'm going to discharge it and charge it three times to see if it starts working properly and letting me charge it normally. Was a tip someone gave me. Won't hurt anything, and if it doesn't work I can still send it back.
Curious what you guys think. do you think it's a bad battery and I should just get an exchange, or I should just get my money back, and shell out the $100+ for a Telus battery?
Well the longlast battery test failed badly. Lasted about half a day with minimum calls and data use. No wifi no bluetooth. After it died I took it out and let it sit for a bit as the battery was fairly warm. After I put it back in, it said I had about %40 left. Very odd. And it lasted for another two hours before dying.
Now it's back at the won't charge stage. So I finally got an RMA number, so this one is going back.
Hitting Telus on the way home to pony up for a new battery. Getting the extended one as it's only $20 more. Hopefully this one will last more than a year - then I can get another phone (got to love 3yr retention contracts that end early )
I've created a Facebook group to act as a petition for everyone with the notorious battery life problem.
Join the group here, it's open to everyone:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=100925126406
Share your experiences dealing with Telus positive or negative ones.. or tell us if you've been able to fix the problem by hacking the device. Anything at all that will help the people still stuck with this phone.
I have done some efforts regarding battery capacity measurement Just lookup this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5558383#post5558383

Battery question. Dieing when powered off

Ok I have searched and not found anything like this yet so I am going to ask. I know the phone has battery problems all around for a lot of people. Mine seems to be fine when it is on. It can sit and idle powered on all day locked and stay at full charge. It runs about 10 hours with minimal use and maybe 8 hours with some data use and a few calls and texts. Now I am experiencing a wired problem. When I go to work we cannot have cell phones. I leave my phone in my locker and power it off. After my 12 hour shift is up at work I come back to the phone with a dead battery? What could be causing this? And has anyone else noticed this issue?
defective battery? pull the battery and see if it still does it. If it does, gotta be a defective battery.. if it doesn't do it when pulled, you're not shutting off the phone maybe?
Yesterday I tried leaving the battery out. I took the battery out and let it sit 12 hours and it still had full charge when I put it back in. When I go to work I long press on the power/lock button and choose Power off then I watch it shut down and it just dies before I come back. I wish I could watch it the whole time. Today I left the phone off for around 6 hours and came back and it was fine though. Maybe it gets turned on some how at work. I have no idea. Or when I go to power it on it is just the issue where the phone isn't reading battery % correctly and it just says 0%
Seems like a battery driver issue or a defective battery? definitely call t-mobile and check if it's the battery. I've had some issues as well, but not that bad.
Weird.
So the phone powers off after you turn the screen on and it won't come back on? Try putting the phone in airplane mode.
Also, I'm assuming you are running the stock roms?
Might also want to check into a battery monitor to see if any 1 thing is pulling it down.
I think it might just be the battery driver. Sounds like the phone is in suspend so it doesn't power off properly until the screen is turned on and is revived, updating the battery % status, seeing 0%, and turning off.
CM7 fixed the wonky battery issue a few nights ago. Right now, I think a current CM based rom is the best bet as it has most of the drivers fixed. I'ved used mine pretty heavily today, unplugged at 8am and I just got a 15% battery warning at 11:30pm. It will usually last until I go to bed at midnight but I might want to play with it some more.

[Q] Odd battery life situation

I've always been reasonably happy with my battery life. If I use it heavily it goes down. If I don't it can stay charged for a couple of days. Within the last week or so that has dramatically changed. All of a sudden it barely makes it through the night from a full charge to 10% or so. It also "seems" that normal use drains it at least twice as fast. Anecdotal but I know something is wrong or different.
I haven't made any changes to my phone for months. I'm running existz kernal for 2.2 and that is the only customization. I did get a bunch of app updates but that always happens. The battery use screen shows the batter is being used for display but over night, it doesn't/shouldn't display much.
Thoughts on how to find what the heck is going on would be appreciated.
Use spare parts app and find out battery stats on partial wake clock usage and sensors usage
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What I would do if I were you is charge to 100%, recalibrate, and take the battery out for about 15 minutes before you put it back in and turn your phone on. I dunno.why this procedure worked for me but that's just a suggestion if you don't wanna flash to stock and back to whatever you're using.
Uninstall updates, then add them back, one at a time.
KMan94 said:
I've always been reasonably happy with my battery life. If I use it heavily it goes down. If I don't it can stay charged for a couple of days. Within the last week or so that has dramatically changed. All of a sudden it barely makes it through the night from a full charge to 10% or so. It also "seems" that normal use drains it at least twice as fast. Anecdotal but I know something is wrong or different.
I haven't made any changes to my phone for months. I'm running existz kernal for 2.2 and that is the only customization. I did get a bunch of app updates but that always happens. The battery use screen shows the batter is being used for display but over night, it doesn't/shouldn't display much.
Thoughts on how to find what the heck is going on would be appreciated.
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I notice dramatically different battery life when I use this procedure to charge my phone known as a bump charge.
1) charge to 100% or as close as your phone will get while it is on.
2) Disconnect charger
3)Turn off phone
4)Re-Connect charger while phone is off
5) Wait until the phone says 100% charged while it is off. You can check the charge by using the volume buttons if the screen is asleep.
6) Unplug charger. (This is important. If you boot your phone with your charger plugged in it can give you inaccurate battery information.)
7) Boot up the phone.
That is really odd but mine has started doing the exact same thing. I have never had battery issues and for the first time today my phone was completely dead within 6 hours, and the past week it seems to hardly make it 12 hours.
I was just assuming it was the launcher I was using but I removed it and it never helped whatsoever.
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Uninstall updates, then add them back, one at a time.
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I would agree with you on that but... I really have no idea what all got updated and don't know how to find out. the perils of auto-update I suppose.
capocaccia said:
I notice dramatically different battery life when I use this procedure to charge my phone known as a bump charge.
1) charge to 100% or as close as your phone will get while it is on.
2) Disconnect charger
3)Turn off phone
4)Re-Connect charger while phone is off
5) Wait until the phone says 100% charged while it is off. You can check the charge by using the volume buttons if the screen is asleep.
6) Unplug charger. (This is important. If you boot your phone with your charger plugged in it can give you inaccurate battery information.)
7) Boot up the phone.
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I'll give that a try... it made it through last night in pretty good shape though. Confused I am.
Not sure if this helps or not, but here is my experience.
I have two wireless routers in my house. One I keep locked to N-only and the other to G-Only. The N router I have suspected for some time has a weak or flaky radio because I can watch the signal strength fluctuate wildly over a period of 10 seconds or so. I noticed a while back that when my phone is connected to the N router it will kill itself pretty much overnight. When I disable that connection and let it connect to the G router it only loses a couple % over an 8 hour period.
I don't know if it is due to being connected to N, or if my suspected flaky router is causing it to use more power staying locked onto the signal or something of that sort.

Overheating phone, owner (me) freaked out

I have a Motorola Droid 2 Global running CM7. It works fine, other than the usual quirks of a custom ROM, but it gave me a bit of a scare yesterday. Here's what happened:
- Battery was low, 28%-ish, because I hadn't charged it for 2 or 3 days
- Plugged USB from the netbook to charge it (I lost its AC adapter somewhere in the junkyard that I call my home)
- Unplugged it after only a few minutes because I had to go out in a hurry, battery had reached 30 or 31%. Dropped it from a height of about 50cm while doing so; a bundle of wires cushioned the fall (the phone has survived *much* harder falls)
- Stayed out about 20 minutes, nothing unusual to report, phone working fine
- Came home, put it on the desk, went about my business for about half an hour
- Found it blinking red, only noticed because a notification (stupid Astrid Task reminding me I should use it) made the screen light up
- Grabbed it and it was *hot*, hotter than it had ever gotten before and way more than anything this small has a right to get. Battery was down to 1%.
- Fearing a short I panicked and pulled the battery, then left everything to cool down.
Well, a short it wasn't otherwise it would have stopped working entirely; rather I think for some reason all of the hardware was working 100% constantly, though I'm surprised at just how much heat that can put out. There was nothing weird about the phone's behaviour up until this. A software bug? It had a really long uptime, something like a month and a half without being turned off (I keep it in airplane mode at night)... I've heard that Android in general and custom ROMs in particular can freak out if they're left unrebooted for very long. Otherwise it would have to be a hardware problem, but it's a weird hardware problem that leaves a phone working even while it bakes itself.
I'm recharging it right now and no abnormal heating is going on.
W, I ask, TF?
I feel your panic. My HTC Sensation can heat up even from browsing the web to around 40 degrees centigrade Sometimes eve too hot to hold.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
Got an Optimus 2x that gets way hotter when using than the Desire it replaced. It also has a cheap Chinese battery which I strongly suspect does not work as it should. Perhaps your battery is giving problems and needs to be replaced or there was a temporary problem with the charging circuitry?

[Q] battery discharge even when turned off

My phone is discharging even when is turned off!
Besides it have high battery drain compared to my BravoC, which in stand by last for days.
This Inspire 4G last max 15 hours, changed the radio, and flashed it to reach that, before it lasted ~9 hours max. I'm talking in stand by, not even using it nor data/wifi/gps turned on. I have checked the processor use and it was in deepsleep most of the time.
Yesterday I fully charged it and inmediately turned it off. Today I tried to turn it on but is dead, completely drained. The battery is new and it does have the sufficient capacity, i mean is not a battery failure (checked it with a hobby charger).
I bought the phone on ebay, it has the volume up button dead, so I dissasembly it to if it can be fixed easily and found out that the phone was previously open. Also the screen seems to be a replacemente (a crappy one) since the light bleed in the dark state is high, alsio the light bleed at high angles. This would explain the high drain using it, but not the drain when is turned off.
Anyone have any idea of what it may be? maybe something not connected properly when it was repaired before or a short circuit anywhere?? or is a deeper failure and there's nothing that can be done?
I'm saving for a One X in the meanwhile but i'd like to fox this in the meanwhile since i won't be buying it anytime soon

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