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Blackberry micro use chargers are all over the place. do any of these work adequately with our phone? Do they supply enough amps/volts?
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without having testet this, i'd assume any USB Charger with an output of 5 Volts and 500 mA can do the job. I am using the original Charger, the one from my Sony Ericsson X1 and also a Sanyo Mobile Booster (Portable Battery Charger). They all work well
Charger from the hd2 works fine too! its all becoming very standardised now
Yeah, it's just I heard that certain chargers don't appear to work very well, with some people reporting that their phone has run out of charge when going on long journeys whilst using the phone as satnav - so using cables which employ the correct ampage/voltage could be important.
The micro USB Blackberry charger works fine on my Desire
Andy
I just got a 1 Amp one off ebay for about 3 quid. No complaints from me!
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I just got a 1 Amp one off ebay for about 3 quid. No complaints from me!
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Got the link Dave?
i'm using the HTC original charger car charger from my Touch HD, it's 2 amp and charges the phone in no time. Needed to get a mini usb to micro usb adapter from ebay though.
The Blackberry ones seem to be 0.5 amps and take ages to charge.
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Got the link Dave?
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Sorry, totally missed this. I just put 'usb charger 1a' into the search. The seller was 'arygroup'. It's not as quick as the one it comes with but it's fast enough!
The phone says it is charging from USB, whereas it doesn't with the proper charger. Not sure why yet...
I received my car holder with car charger a few days ago, it is labeled as a Moto.V8, and should output 1.5 mAh.
I don't know if it geniune Motorola charger or clone, always a surprise with eBay
Haven't tested it yet, all I hope is that it doesn't drain my phone while I'm using GPS navigation.
I've read some stories that certain chargers can charge, but when using GPS applications they will drain.
There are a couple of other posts about the same thing. Lets try and keep it to one thread. Better for updates etc
For those in the UK sainsburys are doing a 1amp car charger for 6 quid.
It includes two usb sockets, and is white.
When plugged into my desire, the phone reports that it is being charged by AC, and sat nav dosent drain the battery (in fact it still charges.)
Fon22
It's not as quick as the one it comes with but it's fast enough!
The phone says it is charging from USB, whereas it doesn't with the proper charger. Not sure why yet...
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From another thread, it appears that the phone will only draw 500 mA unless the USB data pins are shorted together. A few minutes with a soldering iron and the charger works as well as the HTC one.
If you have any old HTC (Diamond etc) 1A chargers lying around just buy one of the Mini to Micro USB Charger Adapter Converters for 99p including p+p from ebay and use them!
I have run some tests on 500mA chargers and would be interested in hearing how someone else has got on with one (instead of a 1A).
At first I was using a 5 Volts & 500 mA Blackberry charger with a cheap micro USB cable and getting very slow charging. At first I thought this was the 500mA rating but then I got a brand new official Nokia micro USB cable and it seems to charge at a comparable rate to my official charger. I'm at a bit of a loss to explain it other than perhaps the quality of the cable has a lot more effect on charging than I thought (I don't think the data connectors have been shorted on the Nokia cable, I can transfer data fine using it)
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How about this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tomtom-4A00-182-5A00-081-A05T2-05MU-USB-Wall-Charger-/310157216511
Seems to be the same output as the standard HTC mains charger..
Would this work ?
What about this one:
Input: AC 100-240V 50/60Hz 100mA
Output: 5V = 150mA
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My HTC Desire came with UK plug and I cannot use it.
Tesco are doing a cigarette lighter splitter with a USB 5v 1A socket for £4-99.
It'll be getting a trial run down to Le Mans later.
AndyChecker said:
If you have any old HTC (Diamond etc) 1A chargers lying around just buy one of the Mini to Micro USB Charger Adapter Converters for 99p including p+p from ebay and use them!
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I can confirm this =P. But you DON'T need to buy a new usb cord, just use the cord that comes with the desire and plug it into the Touch diamond Charger
I had the Touch diamond and Im using the touch diamond charger for this phone cuz it LOOKS way better (when i plug it in, HTC lights up ), and it charges almost twice as fast (Difference is very noticeable)
I was manically driving around to find a car charger, and EVENTUALLY found one at a Vodacom shop(in South Africa). It was made by Body Glove, and it's a 360 rotating device, with a USB port on it. The Micro USB cable that came with it is retractable, but I haven't used it. I used the cable that came with my phone. Will test it later. I drove about 200 plus miles with it, and my charge was good after the trip. My phone is still less than a week old, so the battery charge hasn't quite gotten to where it should be. Cost me about R99 (About $12)
By the way, the Micro USB connector will supposedly be the only connector on phones by 2012. It has apparently been standardized, so that people will just get a phone, but that all chargers will work on all phones. Too much waste from old chargers they say.
Since I already tried 4 USB car chargers (Osungo Carjuice 2.1A, Belkin 2.1A, Ewent 2.1A, Belkin 1A) with several USB cables (my intention is to use this cable I got from dx.com), but none of the combinations succeeded in charging my N5 while using navigation on the road.
In the settings menu -> battery all of them display Charging (AC) when plugged in my car.
During night time they keep the battery around the same level and during day time the battery percentage even slowly drops.
I'm going to perform some measurements later today with Battery Monitor Widget and/or Currentwidget to get some numbers.
The stores close-by only sell this stuff for ridiculous prices, so I spent enough money on gas already. I haven't ordered anything online yet since it seems nothing is guaranteed to work and therefore I don't want to deal with the hassle of return processes plus shipping costs.
The only car charger that does work is the charger that came with my Galaxy Nexus car holder, but I never liked that charger since it doesn't have a coiled cable so the cable is all over the place across your dash and it has no universal USB connection to charge all kind of devices in your car.
Also I'm looking for a solution which doesn't require soldering of some sort.
Does the USB car charger + coiled USB cable which I'm looking for even exist and why is it so hard to just get a working car charger for your N5?
Today I did some measurements with Currentwidget and the problem lies in the cable which I got from Dealextreme.
When I tested with the USB cable which came with the N5 all chargers work fine.
Now I hope I can find a coiled USB cable which works just like the original N5 cable for a decent price.
Found one from Mediabridge, but it seems this cable isn't available in the Netherlands and on Ebay shipping costs are insane.
Does the 1A charger still charge the phone while navigating? Or is a 2.1A charger needed?
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Does the 1A charger still charge the phone while navigating? Or is a 2.1A charger needed?
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Both can charge the phone while navigating, as long as you use the right cable.
Very annoying since there is no way to tell which cable is good and which cable is not good.
This was also noticed in the following threads:
[Q] Terrible charge rate?
Need good car charger recommendations please
Discharging while using Navigation
Tried the cable which came with the HTC OEM Car Charger CC C200, together with a 2.1mAh car charger and it barely charged the N5 while navigating. The charging level went up 1% in about 25 minutes time, in comparison if you use the cable which came with the N5 the level will have gone up around 15-20%.
The Mediabridge cables (such as this one) should suffice (available on Amazon and Ebay).
Since those are not available in Europe and shipping costs are way too high, I now found an alternative from Speedlink. Hopefully this one will work just as good as the original N5 USB cable.
I am using PowerGen 2.1A car charger with 3' Samsung OEM usb cable and able to charge the phone while using Navigation, brightness at full, and streaming tune-in on LTE. Very happy with the setup.
I had a monoprice 10' usb cable, the thick version with cap on ends, the 3' samsung oeum usb cable works much better. Testing on my old phone Optimus G Pro, there are about +200mA improvement using the 3' samsung oem usb cable over the monoprice 10' usb cable. so make sure to use the shortest usb cable possible.
I thought I would like to share with others my findings about the USB cable issues and the charging issues also reviewing few products.
I know that it would probably be best with some real table lab equipment but I have tested it with a usb multimeter device : PortaPow USB Power Monitor / Multimeter / DC Ammeter
Showing me Amps and volts.
It is true what is said that the device can detect to a degree the charger
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53917336
So I used combo of software and hardware testing. I also tested with a S3 and S4 rooted (custom roms), and nexus 7 2013 (unique to this charger that it specs the 5v at 5.2! @ 1.35A and it does push more, to other devise as well)
Not all cables are equal; even not all OEM will work past 1A. It seems that most OEM’s cheat by using a shorter micro USB cable to get better charging results, this is the question many ask why so short cables, the OEM’s are only now slowly moving to thicker power wires IE 28/24 in there OEM usb cables.
Now my findings about the PortaPow USB Power monitor and any of the kind, is that it seems to effect the charging Amps of the device and also effect any smart chargers (will talk about below)
In the past I used to use exclusively the “Battery Monitor Widget” by 3c, lately I went and got also “Galaxy Charging Current Lite” for whatever reason my S3 shows as incompatible? Thought it should work on it, my S4 installed and shows max and reference/average
Test 1: S3 Genuine 100% OEM cable (I know because I bought the S3 new @ t-mobile)
Test 2: Claimed Genuine Samsung Micro USB cable 5 feet ECC1DU6BBE
Test 3: Nexus 7 2013 usb cable (is claimed to be a 28/24 AWG)
I was skeptical about the Claimed Genuine cable, and though it looks and feels just like the real thing, it varies in the logo and length. Performance wise has shown consistently of a 0.1-0.15A lower than the Genuine Samsung cable that I have from S3. This was done with the USB power monitor and with the Galaxy Charging Current Lite app, it even said 860mAh vs 760mAh when I tested the cables, but genuine cable did push up more power and the software was wrong as I have seen over 1.13A with USB Power monitor, but as said the real Genuine cable was better.
The Nexus 7 2013 micro USB cable that is short, performed the best, gave the max Amps out of all the cables. I will test my Monoprice 28/24 cables and update this thread.
Quick tests of chargers:
Car charger form Amazon,
PowerGen White Dual USB 4.2A (20W) Car charger Designed for Apple and Android Devices
I quickly tested to see if this thing will push past 1A and it did at the time I was testing with nexus 7 and its cable with the usb power meter, and It was pulling around 1.13A
Next up single wall charger, I saw this and had to buy!
Blackberry Folding Blade Charger for Playbook rated at 5v @ 1.8A! priced under $5!!!
I tested this one with the software on my S4, it quickly showed after few min pulling 1.4A and Galaxy charger showed maxed out 1900 on all!
I think this one wins for the cheapest and sturdy charger, just shy of 2A!, will become my work charger, the cable is nice and thick along with pretty good length 6ft+!
Next up I had to get me a family charger (4-5 port)
I get tired of short cables on wall chargers, so I went and got
Anker® 40W USB Desktop Charger
This charger claims a total of 40w for 5 ports! With intelligent device detection PowerIQ.
This charger so far (1 day use) has been great, I connected the S3 and the power meter showed 1A, I connected the S4 with the meter and was only getting 1.13-1.3A, the software did not show max, so here is the issue seems the usb monitor will cause the charger to not read the devices to there 100%, after taking it out and connecting it directly the galaxy charger showed maxed 1900mAh
The USB cable used was the nexus 7 one.
What I love about this charger, no lights! Perfect for me for overnight charging, also has standard power cord, the unit itself is quite compact too, now I can have short usb cables 1.5ft or 3ft ones and not worry about reach, as the charger can stay next to your devices, simply use conventional power cable extender on the charger unit, not on your usb devices!
I will conclude that it seems now since we are pushing past the usb spec for charging, that the shortest cable is best, be it 28 awg or 24 awg, and of course OEM’s already knew that, I am pretty sure that the OEMs are switching to 28/24 awg cables
Links:
PortaPow USB Power Monitor / Multimeter / DC Ammeter
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DF2485S/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Samsung ECC1DU6BBE 5-Feet Micro USB Charging Data Cable - Original OEM - Non-Retail Packaging
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DVBB0XQ/ref=oh_details_o01_s01_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Anker® 40W USB Desktop Charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GTGETFG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Blackberry Folding Blade Charger for Playbook (Black)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OZMWUS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
PowerGen White Dual USB 4.2A (20W) Car charger Designed for Apple and Android Devices
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0088U6OZY/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
if people are interested, I can designate some time and take few pics of the monoprice cables, and show why they fail, its obvious but need a good pic to show the reason, maybe we can find a way to fix them?
the cables are great, the connectors look great at first but are not so great
I just ordered the Anker 40W USB Desktop Charger on Amazon with same day shipping for $5.99. Thanks for your review!
been using the Blackberry Folding Blade Charger for awhile now. indeed the closet and fastest ul get to the original charger
it can be had on ebay 2 for 4.99
kinubic said:
been using the Blackberry Folding Blade Charger for awhile now. indeed the closet and fastest ul get to the original charger
it can be had on ebay 2 for 4.99
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I could not find 2 for 4.99 I did find 2 for 8 or so... are you sure its the "Blackberry Folding Blade Charger for Playbook" this one is specifically 1.8A
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-New-OEM-...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item58afbd2941
looks like Amazon still is selling them as well
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I could not find 2 for 4.99 I did find 2 for 8 or so... are you sure its the "Blackberry Folding Blade Charger for Playbook" this one is specifically 1.8A
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-New-OEM-...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item58afbd2941
looks like Amazon still is selling them as well
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yes the seller is mobilepros1
just checked his store seems his not selling it anymore
not sure if u can see this but this was the listing
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=221456227839&view=all&tid=1395101280012
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yes the seller is mobilepros1
just checked his store seems his not selling it anymore
not sure if u can see this but this was the listing
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=221456227839&view=all&tid=1395101280012
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ah yes I searched item#221456227839
that was even better bargain heh
the USB cable is as important as the plug. I use an ANKER 4-port plug with a factory S4 cable. It runs at 1900, same as if I used the factory S4 plug. I ran a whole experiment too. I had a USB cable IDENTICAL to my S$ cable, and it only charged at 320 with the same ANKER or S4 plugs. My S4 has a popup telling me to use a better charger
I was looking for a official car rapid charger for my Note 4, you know one that would use it's rapid charging tech and charge it at 9V 2A. But I could never find one. Finally someone has released one that works well, it's got two ports. One normal 2.5A and the other supports quick and rapid charging.
Never heard of them before, Tronsmart. But it's the Quick Charge 2.0 car charger I got it from geekbuying.com here
I also recorded a quick hands on and demo of the charger for anyone that's interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27IDImCll1Y
It defiantly works at full rapid charging spec, I went from 50% to almost 100% in around 20 minutes or so driving into town. It wasn't hot either from that charge. All and all seems the car charger Samsung should have released for the S6 and Note 4.
I've got the Aukey branded version. It looks exactly the same as yours.
Agreed, it's a great product.
I already ordered new 4 ports USB Tronsmart TTS-CC4PC Quick Charge 2.0 Rapid Car Charger. When it's arrive i write review for this. More info about new charger: http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-quick-charge-2.0-4-ports-rapid-car-charger
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I already ordered new 4 ports USB Tronsmart TTS-CC4PC Quick Charge 2.0 Rapid Car Charger. When it's arrive i write review for this. More info about new charger: http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-quick-charge-2.0-4-ports-rapid-car-charger
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Have you got your 4 port ones? any reviews?
Mobilefun has the stock samsung quick car charger...finally! Ordered mine and received it last week. Awesomeness.
Hello
I need to replace the usb cable that connects to the original charger that comes along with the phone.
There are cables out there that are sold as original Samsung cables but don't fast charge the phone in 78 minutes from 0% to 100% even if they are connected to the original charger.
So is there a cable that truly fast charges the phone exactly like the original in 78 minutes?
The cable has nothing to do with it. Use a regular functioning USB cable with a Quick Charge 3.0 charger (such as the Samsung charger with the lightning bolt on it, or the Anker Quick Charge series) and the phone negotiates with the charger. The cable is just a medium. I prefer the Anker PowerLine+ cables for their durability; the stock Samsung cables are fragile.
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The cable has nothing to do with it. Use a regular functioning USB cable with a Quick Charge 3.0 charger (such as the Samsung charger with the lightning bolt on it, or the Anker Quick Charge series) and the phone negotiates with the charger. The cable is just a medium. I prefer the Anker PowerLine+ cables for their durability; the stock Samsung cables are fragile.
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Τhanks a lot socal87. I was thinking the same thing as you but i got worried from negatives reviews in amazon ( saying that the cable they bought wasn't fast charging the phone).
Also in another well known forum, there were comments like the following :
"Samsung plays with the extra pins on the microUSB connector to tell the phone different things - like USB/AC charge, or fast/normal charge."
"My troubleshooting with 7 different cables showed me that the the very new Samsung charger cables that came with non-fast-charging phones did not fast charge when connected to the fast charger adapter portion. It appears that the cable does in fact matter. I tried many combinations of cables and adapters during my testing."
I will buy an Anker cable as you suggested. In another forum i read than indeed the Anker cables do the job right with fast charging. Thanks again.
Of course the cable has to do with the charging of the phone, try charging with a cheap $2 cable from eBay and try yourself.
Best cables (that i use) are from Monoprice, get their Ferrite core one, best cable out there, charges my phone to 90% in around 70-80 minutes with normal charging (no Fast Charging)
Try any original cable from HTC Nokia Samsung Motorola you can find one in repair place ask him for used original one or new...
Τhank you all for your suggestions. I have already ordered an Anker powerline cable from Amazon and i face any problem i ll buy one of those you suggested.
Blitzwolf does be more better distance charge of 1m at Maximum average 2,1-2,4A of 9V/2A or 5V/3A
You can find Samsung original cable in any official service. I have paid 5$ for a 2m long cable and it takes about 1.h20m to charge from 1%