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[Q] K-9 email questions

Hey guys,
I am trying this app as Samsung is apparently never going to update the Captivate to 2.2. and therefor we will never get the newer Gmail app that has font size adjustment, and other new features. Sorry but my eyes are a bit sick of looking at tiny text in the 2.1 Gmail app. So I installed K-9.
K-9 is pretty nice! Very customizable but I have a few questions:
1. There are so many settings in this app. Does anybody know of a good help site for this app? I just want to make sure that it pushes new emails to the device like the Gmail app does. What do I need to do to make sure this happens? It is showing 3 separate Sent folders. Not sure why I have that many.
2. Lots of images in emails are showing up as little blue question marks. (similar to flash sites on Safari on iPhone). What is happening here? These images show up fine on the iPhone Email app.
Thanks guys!

So it is pushing messages to K-9, but when I delete a message from K-9 inbox, the gmail inbox (webmail or Gmail app) does not reflect these changes.
Can anybody explain this behaviour?
Thanks!

I've also noticed that but it doesn't really bother me too much considering how much space Gmail gives me. So I don't really bother to delete anything anyway.

I just like my inboxes to match. Maybe there is some setting I am missing. I really want to keep using K-9 as it is really a pleasure to read email with.

not sure if i am right but pretty sure 2.2 is coming out mid-late Nov (next month)....

clueless captivate said:
not sure if i am right but pretty sure 2.2 is coming out mid-late Nov (next month)....
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Unfortunately the Samsung press release is from Samsung UK, and is a little vague about 2.2 for carriers outside the UK getting 2.2.
I am not holding my breath.

macpilot said:
So it is pushing messages to K-9, but when I delete a message from K-9 inbox, the gmail inbox (webmail or Gmail app) does not reflect these changes.
Can anybody explain this behaviour?
Thanks!
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Have you adjusted the following setting correctly?
Menu > Settings > Account Settings > Fetching Mail > "When I delete a message"

Shovelhead84 said:
Have you adjusted the following setting correctly?
Menu > Settings > Account Settings > Fetching Mail > "When I delete a message"
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Dude, thanks!
Upon some more playing around, I have determined this is really a nice email app and I am shocked it is free. Hopefully it is secure. Amazing how customizable it is.
Do you use it instead of Gmail or Email on your device?

macpilot said:
Dude, thanks!
Upon some more playing around, I have determined this is really a nice email app and I am shocked it is free. Hopefully it is secure. Amazing how customizable it is.
Do you use it instead of Gmail or Email on your device?
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I use it for my non-Gmail email accounts. Really like it. I set it to auto download emails only when Active sync is on my phone which gives me an easy way to control this function without going into settings. I don't like my email to get downloaded while I am sitting at my computer at work, but all other times. Use Tasker then to turn this setting on and off at appropriate times of day and week. Never could get this to work exactly like this in WM. I love Android!!!

macpilot said:
Dude, thanks!
Upon some more playing around, I have determined this is really a nice email app and I am shocked it is free. Hopefully it is secure. Amazing how customizable it is.
Do you use it instead of Gmail or Email on your device?
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Yes, I do. I use it for a work account and a second personal account but keep gmail on it's own app. There are some options that make it very nice for multiple accounts and easy access. Color coding individual accounts, alternating sync times and setting "time of day" sync schedules are just some of them.
I have tried a few email apps now and K-9 slaps them all. I am having trouble finding issues or a lack of options in this free app. Almost doesn't make since. It's worth contributing to for sure.

[Q] Correct Googlemail and calendar sync via app - possible?

Hey developers,
i wonder if it's possible to build an app that can sync googlemail correctly, with all options (labeling, different adresses, etc) and also syncing the google calendar with all options such as multiple calendar support, etc.
Togehther with a livetile that shows new mails and a toast notification for appointments this could be a killer app for WP7 and would make me switch immediately to WP7.
I don't know much about programming, it's just a question about the possibility.
Any Ideas?

Yes, it is possible.

Thanks a lot for your detailed answer...
Is anyone working on this kind of app?

I have the Samsung focus, and gmail works perfectly. I can see all of my folders, all labels. As far as the calender, it only shows the primary.

Not really sure what you're asking for. All of that functionality is baked into the OS. You can sync your gmail and it'll create a new mailbox icon that you can pin to your start screen. And you can sync your google calendar to your calendars which give you notifications of appointments.
Why would you want a separate app?

Example:
Calendar:
I have six different calendars, all in one account.
WP7 shows only the main one.
Under android, all calendars are shown.
E-Mail:
Of course WP7 displays the labels as folders but not as labels.
I do often label an e-mail with two or three labels without moving it to a folder.
It stays in my in-box.
If i do a search under WP7 to look for a special label, then only those mails are found who have been moved to the appropriate folder.
To use all the features of googlemail the syncing of WP7 isn't good enough.
That's why i'd love to have an app for that

I don't know if SuperG calender has everything you want, but it might hold you over...no live tile, no notifications, but it will show all your google calenders

jmerrey said:
I don't know if SuperG calender has everything you want, but it might hold you over...no live tile, no notifications, but it will show all your google calenders
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Thanks for the hint.
Tried it.
Does not display any calendar... all it does is displaying error codes.
1,99 EUR wasted.
Only to inform you if anyone wants to try this app out.
Still looking for an app that fits my needs

Prinzessin Horst said:
Example:
Calendar:
I have six different calendars, all in one account.
WP7 shows only the main one.
Under android, all calendars are shown.
E-Mail:
Of course WP7 displays the labels as folders but not as labels.
I do often label an e-mail with two or three labels without moving it to a folder.
It stays in my in-box.
If i do a search under WP7 to look for a special label, then only those mails are found who have been moved to the appropriate folder.
To use all the features of googlemail the syncing of WP7 isn't good enough.
That's why i'd love to have an app for that
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The calendar problem is the same with Windows Live calendars - I'm not sure what the deal is with that
Gmail shows the labels as folders when using IMAP - it'll be the same in any email program that connects with IMAP. The issue with this is that it will stay in the inbox and appear in all the folders for which it is labelled - if I label something in my inbox with "XDA" and "WP7", it will appear in the inbox folder, as well as the "XDA" and "WP7" folders, but it is the same item.
It wouldn't be so bad if the mobile Gmail site wasn't so useles....

CreepinJesus said:
The calendar problem is the same with Windows Live calendars - I'm not sure what the deal is with that
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Agree.
I don't understand why only the main calendar is synced.
Does no one in Redmont use more than one calendar (friends, work, private, other companies)?
Unfortunately i need at least four of my calendars for my business.
Let's hope, a dev has a heart and solves our problem

Prinzessin Horst said:
Thanks for the hint.
Tried it.
Does not display any calendar... all it does is displaying error codes.
1,99 EUR wasted.
Only to inform you if anyone wants to try this app out.
Still looking for an app that fits my needs
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odd, it's working great for me, not sure what happened on your end

jmerrey said:
odd, it's working great for me, not sure what happened on your end
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All i can see in this app are error codes:
> network error getting calendar...<
All six of my calendars are getting the same error.
Made sure a million times that email and password were correct.
Tried with wlan and 3G... no worky.
Would like to get in contact with the developer but in the app description there's no contact data.
Anyone know this dev?

How do I get rid of "conversation view" in the gmail app on my phone?

How do I get rid of "conversation view" in the gmail app on my phone? I hate that gmail lumps all the emails into 1 from the same sender making it difficult to find emails when needed.
Is there any way to turn this off on the gmail app? I know how to turn it off when using gmail on my computer, just not the app...
Thanks

I don't think it can be done on the Gmail app.
But I think you can disable it via browser, and use the email app (not gmail app) to set up your account. From here, you should see it disabled.

Oogway13 said:
I don't think it can be done on the Gmail app.
But I think you can disable it via browser, and use the email app (not gmail app) to set up your account. From here, you should see it disabled.
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I wish there were away to turn off conversation view in the app. I have it turned off in webmail to no effect in the app. Conversation view can get cumbersome if you're trying to deal with select messages that are bundled with 50 others.

gmail IOS Conversation Mode
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I wish there were away to turn off conversation view in the app. I have it turned off in webmail to no effect in the app. Conversation view can get cumbersome if you're trying to deal with select messages that are bundled with 50 others.
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Agree 100%. Surely there has to be a way to turn this off. Even native IOS mail allows it boths ways. Ive seen posts on this for over a year - is this feature technically impossible????

Gmail and Messaging Smart Extras not syncing

I've noticed that the Gmail app on the SW2 doesn't seem to update all the time. I've currently only got 5 messages in there, I tried uninstalling and reinstalling it - previously it was only showing 1 email.
Similar story with Messaging.
So my questions are - is there a way to force an update/push to the watch?

At this time, Gmail Smart Extra won't handle multi mail accounts even it appears to.
If it's your case, just select a single account, you'll see it syncs just fine
Then, you'll have to do a "trick" (forwarding or fetch other accounts won't work properly) to get all your other account's mails into this selected account (lemme know if you'd like me to walk you through this).
Also, if you have some sort of energy saving feature enabled on your phone, Gmail might not sync/push notifications to your SW2 as often as you wish/think...

beaubin said:
At this time, Gmail Smart Extra won't handle multi mail accounts even it appears to.
If it's your case, just select a single account, you'll see it syncs just fine
Then, you'll have to do a "trick" (forwarding or fetch other accounts won't work properly) to get all your other account's mails into this selected account (lemme know if you'd like me to walk you through this).
Also, if you have some sort of energy saving feature enabled on your phone, Gmail might not sync/push notifications to your SW2 as often as you wish/think...
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I've got just the one Gmail account.
It's also not working for the messaging extension, either.

tangcla said:
I've got just the one Gmail account.
It's also not working for the messaging extension, either.
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No Energy Saving feature enabled? ie. Sony Stamina?

beaubin said:
No Energy Saving feature enabled? ie. Sony Stamina?
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No...
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Help: Gmail notifications weird issue

Hi all,
OK - I have the Sony Gmail app installed on my SW2 and I'm using a stock (rooted) LG2.
On the phone, I don't need (or want) Gmail running in the background so have all notifications & sync disabled - basically, I just want Gmail to work a) when I check it manually or b) occasionally when I'm waiting for a mail to come through and need notifications on my watch and will enable them.
Weird bit.
I disable everything as mentioned, and the phone happily shows me no notifications, BUT the SW2 does!
I check the phone when one comes through on the watch and sure enough there's none there and I have to swipe down to poll the account.
My question: which app is polling the account - is it the Gmail app or the SW2 extension - and more importantly, how can I stop either/both of them doing it and save battery life/my sanity?
Is the phone secretly checking in the background for mail but not showing me any notifications?
Thanks for any tips.

If you don't want to poll Gmail, then, remove the extension from the watch.

n3vry said:
If you don't want to poll Gmail, then, remove the extension from the watch.
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Yes, but if you read my post you'll see that I occasionally do need to poll Gmail.
Your suggestion is a bit like "if you don't like being stuck in traffic, sell your car".

I use an app called Watchify, in it you can enable/disable notifications pretty much on the fly. It's now a paid app, but free trial for 14 days. I liked it enough to buy it. You can turn off Gmail notifications when not needed, then back on when needed. But you will have to do it from SmartConnect on the phone. I think maybe you might be looking for a filter for Gmail.

n3vry said:
I use an app called Watchify, in it you can enable/disable notifications pretty much on the fly. It's now a paid app, but free trial for 14 days. I liked it enough to buy it. You can turn off Gmail notifications when not needed, then back on when needed. But you will have to do it from SmartConnect on the phone. I think maybe you might be looking for a filter for Gmail.
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Yeah, I use Notfify Smartwatch ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.shuisky.notify ).
I can use this actually instead of the Gmail app.
I'm still confused as to what's polling the Gmail account though. The phone certainly doesn't seem to be, but these extensions don't work independently.
Do you see what I mean? It's like the phone is polling the account, just not showing any notification to prove it is.
It's very odd.

I guess the first question I should have asked is, what apps/ext on you running on your SW2?

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I guess the first question I should have asked is, what apps/ext on you running on your SW2?
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Call Handling
Messaging
Gmail
Notify Smartwatch
That's it.

The extension works independent - directly accesses your account not using Gmail App. So it's correct that the extension ignores what your phone notifications tell or hide

Trespassing said:
The extension works independent - directly accesses your account not using Gmail App. So it's correct that the extension ignores what your phone notifications tell or hide
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Wow. Is that so..
So, question answered then - thanks very much.
it's a bit hit and miss. e.g. this email notification came through, but the notification for the other thread replies didn't.
Not much use anyway!

I think it might be following the rules of categorising in Gmail website where those mails might be put together in one thread. But idk... I'm using stock Xperia Email and Extension.
On my S4 I used AquaMail with AquaMail Extension. Worked well.

Trespassing said:
I think it might be following the rules of categorising in Gmail website where those mails might be put together in one thread. But idk... I'm using stock Xperia Email and Extension.
On my S4 I used AquaMail with AquaMail Extension. Worked well.
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Yeah, you could be right.
All seems to be working well now with the Gmail SW2 app removed anyway.
:good:

kryogenik said:
All seems to be working well now with the Gmail SW2 app removed anyway.
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you sold the car then?

No, just changed the type of fuel it uses..

To the makers of this Gmail smart extension.....I noticed today that my data was being used so I decided to investigate, 1.47 GB was used for Gmail smart extension. What the F---? This is a bad app and I demand a solution to this as you just cost me most of my data plan!