Nobody could help but finally i managed to take the risk and it paid off thankfully.
It is the easiest way to unroot, remove superuser, revolutionary and to restore hboot back to normal and S-On again, to get official updates including ICS.
Download the attachment "usmanxhmed.rar", it has Android Flasher and FlashENGHBOOT.
Attach your phone to PC with USB cable, make sure you have HTC fastboot drivers installed.
Open Android Flasher and select bootloader and browse to the file FlashENGHBOOT which you downloaded in file "usmanxhmed.rar", boot phone into fastboot and click flash.
It will remove REVOLUTIONARY **** from the phone.
Now download your specific RUU from this link http://www.filefactory.com/f/c64d333a2755a421/ i was unsure which is my RUU for the phone as i bought it second hand, my phone was unbranded, i matched the software version and radio version in my software information of the phone and downloaded the specific RUU.
After flashing the RUU my Desire S became factory fresh and back to S - ON and updated my phone with Android 2.3.5 and Sense 3 and hopefully/ may be i will get ICS in future as well
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(Please Don't tell me to search the forums, as my situation is bit different and i am newbie here)
I have Desire S (I bought used from Market and sadly it has S-off with Revolutionary and Superuser App installed)
Problem is that, i get notification of update 1.47.401 and it gets download, when it tried to install after reboot i see android icon with triangle exclamation mark.
Now my situation is different because i have a feeling despite S-off i am on official rom which is 2.3.3, so i want to jump to 2.3.5 and later on official ICS
So i think if i just remove revolutionary and root and S-off to S-On may be, i may able to install the update as i already have official or stock rom in my phone i think.
I have android 2.3.3
software number 1.28.401
Update that i download is 1.47.401
Revolutionary S 0ff
hboot 6.98
I dont even know which hboot i need to get this update to inslall or what i need to do? is there any caring guy who can help beside just taunting as i have seen here?
Forget update, simply flash a custom ROM
Would also suggest that you out ENG boot loader over the alpha Rex one
See INDEX (in my signature) for links
Swyped from my DesireS
@poster
for u to conviniently use htc OTA updates u need to S-ON again
or just forget it and install custom ROMs like Ben just said
cheers
Thanks both of you for replying, its the beauty of God that we all have different mind sets, unlike most guys here, i am a man who would prefer official/stock rom and would prefer to have official updates instead of amateur ROM. May be because
- It causes far less phones to brick
- Manufacturer understands device better then amateur developers
- i see no special advantage of custom ROM over stock rom
- i can live life without root and s off as i can have more secure android experience
- Manufacturer invests may be billions to understand the best combination of hardware and software may be that's they don't usually port gingerbread on g1.
- Official update can remove few bugs where as most custom ROMs have bugs as we often read in almost all the posts here thst camera or wifi or tethering is not working yet and so on
- Customs ROMs can over heat the hardware and can damage it as they lack proper hardware knowledge, training and research.
There are endless points due to which some poeple like to stay stock, unlike most here and by above points i am not saying lovers of custom that they are wrong or not demotivating them at all, just sharing my own thoughts due to which i think i better have stock rom in normal circumstances.
So is there any (expert) guy who can help me to resolve my problem instead of telling me to get custom ROM, which i know my self, and which i said i don't want. Its ok not having 2.3.5 but i will be unlucky not to have official ICS if it gets available on my phone.
Wow! where to start...I'll leave that for now (although you may wish to re-consider your use of the word amateur as its rather insulting).
I believe that you need to flash the (98.2) ENG hboot over your Revolutionay (6.98).
See previous post of instructions here
You need to know if the phone is branded or un-branded and from which country/region its from in order to download the correct RUU.
I'd then suggest that you download your stock RUU and run that from the PC which will reset your recovery to stock and un-root you phone, you should then be in a position to request an OTA.
@usmanxhmed
A simple question comes to my mind after reading your post: why are you posting your issue here instead asking HTC support? I hope they will be as half friendly as Ben is. Thanks to God of course
Sent from my HTC Desire S
Well? support from HTC? firstly they may not bother to reply being HTC, not the best in customer service like any big company, secondly my phone is rooted, so its not there fault for them to fix it, thirdly here i have common guys just like me, may be someone with situation just like me.
Yeah use of word Amateur sounds rude here, bit insulting too, but if we are willing to face the reality, that is truth, they are not developing to earn living, they are not manufacturing devices giving warranties, instead saving there soul in every post we are not responsible, as they are greatly unsure about the validity of everything they are teaching/guiding here and on and on and on, so all of this must be categorized as Amateur.
See the people of Revolutionary? after ruining/screwing the warranty and OTA of all phones, they are unable to give simple guide to undo there mess? Most procedures here are with warnings and posts users that they bricked there devices? With custom ROMs no processor is converted from single core to dual y magic so i should want custom ROM so badly.
It may work, it may brick phone, my screen stuck there, it stuck here, camera not working, wifi not working, lagging? For a poor guy like me who can't change phone weekly these things are somewhat burden. Nokia/HTC/Apple will give one click software updates and they will not tell you do it on your own risk, you may brick your phone, they online tell you if you disconnect cable than your device may not work, it does not mean they are brick prove, but more reliable thats why they are professional and brothers here are amateurs.
I don't know, i just bought used phone with revolutionary root and i can't install update even after downloading it, i don't know my phone belongs to which compnay, which RUU i need, which hboot i need out of 20 out there, single mistake can brick my phone without even letting it fall on ground from my hand, let me sleep and live with 2.3.3
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Well? support from HTC? firstly they may not bother to reply being HTC, not the best in customer service like any big company, secondly my phone is rooted, so its not there fault for them to fix it, thirdly here i have common guys just like me, may be someone with situation just like me.
Yeah use of word Amateur sounds rude here, bit insulting too, but if we are willing to face the reality, that is truth, they are not developing to earn living, they are not manufacturing devices giving warranties, instead saving there soul in every post we are not responsible, as they are greatly unsure about the validity of everything they are teaching/guiding here and on and on and on, so all of this must be categorized as Amateur.
See the people of Revolutionary? after ruining/screwing the warranty and OTA of all phones, they are unable to give simple guide to undo there mess? Most procedures here are with warnings and posts users that they bricked there devices? With custom ROMs no processor is converted from single core to dual y magic so i should want custom ROM so badly.
It may work, it may brick phone, my screen stuck there, it stuck here, camera not working, wifi not working, lagging? For a poor guy like me who can't change phone weekly these things are somewhat burden. Nokia/HTC/Apple will give one click software updates and they will not tell you do it on your own risk, you may brick your phone, they online tell you if you disconnect cable than your device may not work, it does not mean they are brick prove, but more reliable thats why they are professional and brothers here are amateurs.
I don't know, i just bought used phone with revolutionary root and i can't install update even after downloading it, i don't know my phone belongs to which compnay, which RUU i need, which hboot i need out of 20 out there, single mistake can brick my phone without even letting it fall on ground from my hand, let me sleep and live with 2.3.3
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huhu...i dont think that peoples here are amateurs...they've come up with much better custom roms than official one i believe...
I believe this can be quite long and useless discussion. Just to mention some of the devs around ARE working for the big companies.
Anyway back to topic. To restore to stock you will find all the necessary info in the second half of the amateur guide about emmc in my signature. Good luck
Sent from my HTC Desire S
For someone after assistance, I do find you're attitude negative and insulting. The forum is full of various guides and sticky threads which contain most of the information that you require, your problem is not unique and therefore had been solved many times over in the past and therefore is well documented here on the forum.
While you may be correct in that many people here at Xda are either young and starting out or merely interested novices and therefore could be classed as ameteurs
I think that you'll find that the developers of the most popular ROMs are in fact professional programmers who code here, in their spare time for the benefit of others.
Swyped from my DesireS
I have nothing against the love for developing, that people have over here, obviously its a skill, but do let me know they develop for the benefit of whom or i mean what are the benefits of developing to a normal consumer.
Over here i found good guides for revolutionary and rooting but there is no detailed/complete guide to undo the stuff, in fact the most of famous guide to undo now claims that i closed this topic, you can find that forum everywhere here which most people link to me, the guy says he is sick of brick phones so he is taking off the guide.
No guide tells for which stock version which hboot is required, nobody tells which RUU version i need when i don't know my Desire belongs to which country, as i cannot find where to locate it.
The only thing i understand here revolutionary dirt is most painful to undo as i remember i unrooted my xperia x10mini with almost one click with some software like superone by connecting to my PC.
Now i understand what benefits developers are giving to consumers here, which can be
- Loss of warranty
- Plenty of dead phones
- One developer narrates if your phones bricks during my guide and if you will complain from me, i will laugh on you, sure you must
- Robbing you from facility of One Click OTA
- OTA usually remove bugs and adds functionality so you can't have it
- And on and on and on
According to my thoughts, xda developers should be bringing solutions to current problems and limitations, instead of doing above mentioned thing to already working phone, Now i think my Old Symbian phone was better at least i could get OTA just by changing product code in a second with ease.
Anyways thanks for everyone who tried to help and i am sorry for being bit cheeky and playful here.
usmanxhmed said:
I have nothing against the love for developing, that people have over here, obviously its a skill, but do let me know they develop for the benefit of whom or i mean what are the benefits of developing to a normal consumer.
Over here i found good guides for revolutionary and rooting but there is no detailed/complete guide to undo the stuff, in fact the most of famous guide to undo now claims that i closed this topic, you can find that forum everywhere here which most people link to me, the guy says he is sick of brick phones so he is taking off the guide.
No guide tells for which stock version which hboot is required, nobody tells which RUU version i need when i don't know my Desire belongs to which country, as i cannot find where to locate it.
The only thing i understand here revolutionary dirt is most painful to undo as i remember i unrooted my xperia x10mini with almost one click with some software like superone by connecting to my PC.
Now i understand what benefits developers are giving to consumers here, which can be
- Loss of warranty
- Plenty of dead phones
- One developer narrates if your phones bricks during my guide and if you will complain from me, i will laugh on you, sure you must
- Robbing you from facility of One Click OTA
- OTA usually remove bugs and adds functionality so you can't have it
- And on and on and on
According to my thoughts, xda developers should be bringing solutions to current problems and limitations, instead of doing above mentioned thing to already working phone, Now i think my Old Symbian phone was better at least i could get OTA just by changing product code in a second with ease.
Anyways thanks for everyone who tried to help and i am sorry for being bit cheeky and playful here.
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Buddy I hope you get well soon...really bad way to ask for help and insult people here....if you have so many problems with you phone please return it and never buy a HTC phone and before you say something about other have a look at their profile and I belive this is the most friendly forum and no other forum would ever tolerate what ever you have posted....
Anyways all the best....
Risk it to get the biscut...
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA
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but do let me know they develop for the benefit of whom or i mean what are the benefits of developing to a normal consumer.
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Let me see....
- Overall (way) faster phone
- Batterylife that doubles or more (this alone is worth a custom rom!)
- OTA updates are still added to the custom roms, so no benefit for you
- Sometimes bugs that the 'great HTC developers' left in are removed
- Lot`s of 'under the hood' tweaks that make your phone faster, safer and better
- Garbage from HTC that is removed
- Nice tweaks in screenbrightness, wakeup with volume keys etc. etc.
Since you are already s-off with revolutionary i can`t see why you want to take the hard and tricky way to go back to s-on. (The OTA reason is not legit and your warranty is already gone)
Just fyi, there are also 100% stock untweaked up-to-date roms you can flash with ClockWorkMod Recovery...
usmanxhmed said:
(Please Don't tell me to search the forums, as my situation is bit different and i am newbie here)
I have Desire S (I bought used from Market and sadly it has S-off with Revolutionary and Superuser App installed)
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Hi,
I can understand you. I was thinking nearly same like you when I bought my DS. After 6-7 months later of purchase my DS, I decided to S-OFF and flash a custom rom. First I flashed Endymion (than 2-3 roms too but used them for 1-2 hours) and I started to like my DS again. It took months for Sense 3 update and we're still waiting for ICS for ages. I can understand about your worries but XDA's Dev community working harder than manufacturer's devs. Getting new updates very quickly, and there lots of ICS roms by devs. So you should respect them.
You can flash Eng Hboot (this topic) then download official stock 2.10.401.8 rom from here. Follow instructions after connect your DS to PC
Thanks for helping and being kind, my rude language was partially explained by my current rude life may be and thanks for tolerating me. Custom ROMs may be cool, but don't you guys think the % of bricked phones are more here? for example if i download and install a ROM from clockwork by following instructions, can i be next to sure if i will boot up next time?
I may have to have it the hard way or i will have to ignore android versions and just use the phone for the sake of phone like an Old Man or a Girl.
Yet i hope, men at Revolutionary or at XDA could bring one easy and assured way to undo revolutionary and its root.
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Ok, so I'm not all that new to this rooting thing, I've rooted several HTC Magics, a Nexus One, helped out on a Legend, rooted a Hero and managed to install Android on an HTC Tytn II.
I'm getting used to the different terms about rooting and I'll recite them for you so you know where I'm at.
My Question/Request for you all is to help me figuring out what all these words mean and how they correspond/correlate/work together.
=== Things I have understood almost completely ===
Root
As in Linux, gives a user or script the permission to write to otherwise protected partitions and file systems of the handset.
Recovery
A partition(?) that manages some tasks involved with the basic building blocks of the system, such as installing/flashing different partitions/parts of the handset. Also has the ability to wipe the data-partition as well as Dalvik-cache.
Bootloader/HBOOT/SPL
A partition(?) that fires up the basic buildingblocks on the handset. Such as recovery, OS, and whatnot. With Fastboot-commands it's possible to flash partitions, as long as the bootloader allows remote writing through command-line.
=== Things I've almost completely understood ===
CID
CarrierID. This is when a mobile phone network carrier "locks" the phone to a specific network. But this also means that the carrier hands out updates to the Android-system installed on the handset? And the only way of updating a factory-state handset is by getting hold of updates from the carrier?
RUU
ROM Update Utility. Used by HTC to update their manufactured handsets. There might be other manufacturers who use this abbreviation, but I've seen it used almost exclusively in regards to HTC. There are checks being made when trying to install a RUU-package on the handset. These are/could be(?)
* Current RUU version already installed (if the RUU-package that is being installed is older, the installation quits)
* Current CID (If the CID in the RUU doesn't match the CID on the handset, the installation quits)
=== Things that confuse me ===
Goldcard
This is a modified SD card that supposedly bypasses the CID/RUU-check. Now, this to me sounds like I can install any RUU no matter what version I currently have installed on my handset and no matter what CID my handset came with.
This also sounds to me that I can potentially install a Desire RUU on my HTC Magic, if it is true that the RUU/CID-check is bypassed by the goldcard.
This also sounds to me that the requirement for a newer RUU-version of the package I'm installing is bypassed. For instance, I will, if I use a goldcard, be able to install a RUU-package with the version 1.28 on a handset that currently have version 1.31 installed?
Reverting a root
Is it as easy as grabbing the latest official RUU-update from HTC:s website and install that? Does it contain all the partitions and system-files necessary to restore the handset to a factory-state? Or will there be complications because of the root and different custom-ROM:s and custom-recoveries that are on the handset?
Shameless bump. SOMEONE has to know this. Or this is such common knowledge that there is a wikipedia article and I missed it?
If I only get an answer to my Goldcard questions I'd be real thankful.
Sounds to me like you have a very good grasp of all these things. It's nice, but rare, to see people doing their own research and learning this much before posting questions!
There's nothing i can add really but to confirm that ,yes...flashing a stock ROM will revert changes although some devices can be picky with which stock ROM is best.
As an aside, have you considered doing development work yourself, perhaps ROM building? You're obviously capable, interested and 'have the right stuff'!
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Sounds to me like you have a very good grasp of all these things. It's nice, but rare, to see people doing their own research and learning this much before posting questions!
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Well, thank you. I'm slowly beginning to get used to doing as much research as I can get by with and provide what I know, or at least think I've been able to conclude, and then ask a question about it.
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There's nothing i can add really but to confirm that ,yes...flashing a stock ROM will revert changes although some devices can be picky with which stock ROM is best.
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When you say flashing a stock ROM, would this also apply for RUU-packages? As an example; If I have an HTC Hero and I manage to downgrade it through som root-method, will I be able to run an official HTC-provided RUU to get it back to a factory state?
The only way I have been able to return my Nexus One to a factory state is by the use of a PASSIMG.zip-file, but then I would have to make sure that I am using the stock recovery. One reason for my question is that I'd also like to know if it's possible to run an RUU-package on a rooted, and/or custom recovery-flashed and/or engineering SPL-flashed handset and have it returned to a factory state.
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As an aside, have you considered doing development work yourself, perhaps ROM building? You're obviously capable, interested and 'have the right stuff'!
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Well, sure, the thought has struck me once or twice. I'm currently in my last months of my education in becoming a Master in Software Engineering, but at the moment I'm into getting to know more about how Android works on different handsets and how the different parts are connected to each other. I will very soon dive into Android development as it's the only really interesting area for handsets/mobile communication, that doesn't have the price of a whole Apple Macintosh to even be able to begin programming for it.
I'm sure I will get an Apple suite later on, I like the diversities of different manufacturers but for the time being I'm price conscious.
Is there anyone who knows a thing or two about Goldcards?
One of my questions in the first post was about the CID/RUU-relation to the Goldcard.
I have read from one or maybe two people on random forums, stating that the Goldcard is _only_ needed when the handset is carrier-locked. I'm very interested in getting to know more about the Goldcard and when it is supposed to be used and/or required.
Because a lot of the times when dealing with rooting HTC handset it boils down to having a Goldcard or not. But at times I hear about methods where Goldcards aren't needed. But the statements differ from "You need a goldcard" to "You only need a Goldcard when your handset is CID-locked" to "You need a Goldcard to be able to flash an RUU that is older than the one you currently have on your handset." to "You need a Goldcard if you want to flash an RUU with a different CID" to "You don't need a Goldcard at all".
Somehow I think there are some kind of specific combinations, for instance something like this;
CID-locked handset => Needs a Goldcard to be able to root
RUU-version on the handset is new => Needs a Goldcard to be able to flash older RUU-version
RUU/CID-combination is X and Y => Needs a Goldcard to be able to flash an RUU that has the RUU/CID-combination A and B
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There are times when some rooting methods do not require a Goldcard at all, but it seems to me they are pretty rare when compared to those who require a Goldcard.
Someone out there should have the whole story about this and I'm very interested to know how these things work and I'm also grateful for sharing this with me.
So I made a toolkit for 3 HTC phones. You can see them in my signature. Would you guys / girls be interested in using a toolkit for an All-In-One use. If so, please let me know and I can work on it and probably have it up by tonight. Thanks!
hasoon2000 said:
So I made a toolkit for 3 HTC phones. You can see them in my signature. Would you guys / girls be interested in using a toolkit for an All-In-One use. If so, please let me know and I can work on it and probably have it up by tonight. Thanks!
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I'm not sure what that is, and haven't chased down your links. Be a few hours before I get a chance to scout it out - i'm just skimming general since I just got back to my dev station and am getting my night started.
I'll just go ahead an say yes, and i'd use it for something, and appreciate the development of it.
Anyone who is willing to take the time to develop tools for working with the device should be encouraged to do so - the more resources at our fingertips allows for more productivity.
Also, as developers move on over time and large online file-hosts are no longer safe cloud storage, the more people who write tool packages for the device specifically enables future devs a higher chance of having the tools available over the long haul as people move on to other devices.
So, peg me as one vote for a variety of reasons even beyond the quick justification for your work here.
I welcome your interest in making something for the device and would like to take a minute to thank you for any work you want to do on it - definitely there is interest!
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I'm not sure what that is, and haven't chased down your links. Be a few hours before I get a chance to scout it out - i'm just skimming general since I just got back to my dev station and am getting my night started.
I'll just go ahead an say yes, and i'd use it for something, and appreciate the development of it.
Anyone who is willing to take the time to develop tools for working with the device should be encouraged to do so - the more resources at our fingertips allows for more productivity.
Also, as developers move on over time and large online file-hosts are no longer safe cloud storage, the more people who write tool packages for the device specifically enables future devs a higher chance of having the tools available over the long haul as people move on to other devices.
So, peg me as one vote for a variety of reasons even beyond the quick justification for your work here.
I welcome your interest in making something for the device and would like to take a minute to thank you for any work you want to do on it - definitely there is interest!
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Thank you for your input.
The toolkits I make do the following:
- Install HTC Drivers
- Flash Kernels
- Flash Recoveries
- S-Off via Revolutionary (if available) / Unlock bootloader via HTCDev (if available)
- Boot into recovery/bootloader
- etc.
There are buttons that you press once and it will do what you want.
I can unlock my HTC Amaze bootloader and flash a recovery within 5 mins.
I really appreciate your input. It is very thoughtful and meaningful.
I am looking to spread my toolkit to many HTC devices and possibly other devices as well. I just finished making one for the Rezound since I received a lot of support and feedback.
I hope as well to receive support and would like to feel welcomed to a new area of the forum.
Heck yea I would be interested. I not too savvy on how to root, but.this sounds fool proof if it involves one button. If I
Understand.correctly.
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This should help all the people and existing users. I will try to get it up tonight. Have a lot of homework and some exams this week.
Awesome - We just cracked S-OFF to S-On reversal Here
So that might be something to consider for your tool too.
Don't worry about stretching yourself too thin to get it out the door - take care of the important things first. We all understand that you do this kind of stuff when you can, and when not that's cool.
We're all here in our spare time as we can give it - I look forward to anything you want to put together!
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Awesome - We just cracked S-OFF to S-On reversal Here
So that might be something to consider for your tool too.
Don't worry about stretching yourself too thin to get it out the door - take care of the important things first. We all understand that you do this kind of stuff when you can, and when not that's cool.
We're all here in our spare time as we can give it - I look forward to anything you want to put together!
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I am still trying to understand what the tool does lol. If you are on S-Off (only rare devices have it I believe), then you can go back to S-On and go back to S-Off?
I am aiming to get the toolkit up by Wednesday. First 3 days this week is gonna be long on me
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I am still trying to understand what the tool does lol. If you are on S-Off (only rare devices have it I believe), then you can go back to S-On and go back to S-Off?
I am aiming to get the toolkit up by Wednesday. First 3 days this week is gonna be long on me
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Its not rare to be s-off.
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leoilios said:
Its not rare to be s-off.
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Not all the latest devices have S-Off. For example, the Amaze 4G, the Rezound. That is what I was trying to say.
:thumbup: Ill use it, I use HTC Super Tool! Its amazing. Your tool seems simular
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I am still trying to understand what the tool does lol. If you are on S-Off (only rare devices have it I believe), then you can go back to S-On and go back to S-Off? ...
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Yes and no -
If on 1.44.0007 hboot version you can S-OFF via the Revolutionary method.
Figured out how to turn that back S-ON again - and afterwards you can S-OFF again using the Rev method. (But only if NOT on hboot 1.45.0013 with S-ON)
You may also run the PG59IMG.zip that restores to factory stock condition whether S-ON or OFF (it's an HTC signed package) and still be either S-ON or OFF depending on what you were when you ran it - your security status is preserved.
When you update to the most recent software version, it will replace your hboot with a 1.45.0013 version...here's the skinny:
If you are S-OFF and upgrade to the most recent OTA then you may freely flash back to the original retail stock condition using the first PG59IMG.zip, or use the new one to flash fresh straight to the most recent software version.
You may also replace your hboot whenever you want.
If, however, you are S-ON and advance to the most recent OTA, that's a one-way trip right now. You will no longer be able to use the Rev method to S-OFF, you will no longer be able to reset before the most recent OTA, and you cannot replace your hboot. You cannot replace your radio.
You also have to flash boot.img seperately from any custom ROM that uses a custom kernel.
So, if S-ON or OFF on versions:
1.28.531.9 (software)
1.28.531.10 (software)
With hboots:
1.44.0006 (factory S-OFF)
1.44.0007 (retail launch)
1.44.1107 (Revolutionary)
... you may do whatever you want.
With S-OFF and:
1.55.531.3 (software)
1.45.0013 (hboot)
...you may still do whatever you want.
With S-ON and:
1.55.531.3 (software)
1.45.0013 (hboot)
...you are stuck where you are, with all the restrictions I mentioned above but we got the HTC Unlock tool working now so it's not hopeless, just crippling.
That's most of it laid out, the rest is kinda common sense but questions always welcome. If "I don't know" wasn't a valid answer no one would ever learn anything.
Edit:
Also, yogi2010 verified earlier that flashing the PG59IMG.zip file (not sure which - probably both though) doesn't wipe out LOCK/UNLOCK status.
It appears that LOCK/UNLOCK and S-ON/OFF are device specific and not so much hboot specific.
When I flash the S-ON copies of hboots people have graciously given me, they read S-OFF on my S-OFFed device. Whether that's a function of what Rev did to it or not is something i'm exploring now.
Hopefully yogi2010 will see this and add what he found about the LOCK/UNLOCk status for flashing the PG59IMG.zip files to clear that up a bit
Alright guys. I feel pretty bad saying that I was gonna update this by yesterday and I couldn't. (No wonder why devs hate making ETAs) A lot came into my life. A lot of school as well as my brother's wife will be giving birth to their first child really soon! Pretty exciting.
For those with requests / updates they want me to add, please PM me the link/info/what device it is for. It will be easier to add in. Thanks!
No worries man, we all have life stuff that pops up. We're in no hurry here.
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Hi all. im new to this scene and need some advice. originally all i wanted was to root my phone to get rid of 'manufacture installed apps' that i never use. now im looking into it and hear about the s-off capabilities. i want to try it out,but fear i may brick my phone as i dont fully understand all the terminologies people use and the programs affiliated. is there somebody who can explain it all simply and the risks involved? i have looked into many forums so far, but people are speaking a language i dont understand!
what is:
eMMC
De-Branding
Flashing
RUU
Bootloader
any help is greatly apprieciated
Craig
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBxiFGexRA. Hope this helps you out
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Follow the guides exactly and you wont fail. The Sensation is one of the easiest devices Ive ever rooted. It is literally a 2 minute opperation to get s-off.
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well - I think that if this thread is a brief info for newbies it is important to mention that there is no way to do S-OFF if you have updated your device to ICS and hboot 1.27.0000 before you start. TRKAAA have given me an excellent overview of the options for the moment in that case
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298&highlight=trkaa&page=32
Read the guides and download all the necessary files, use the search to look for what means what. and also read carefully the guide to s-off and root. Is a BIG help.
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so i finally have a htc sensation now...
i want to root it...
version: 4.0.3......
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so i finally have a htc sensation now...
i want to root it...
version: 4.0.3......
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As you want 4.0.3 first you should make your device ics flashable
For that this is the best guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Follow every step carefully
Then you can flash custom Rom of your choice
For ARHD you can follow the thread posted earlier by henrylar
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My tip is to read, read, read then read it again. Make sure your totally comfortable about the procedure and what is supposed to happen and what can happen. And if you get stuck, SEARCH. what ever happens to you, guaranteed 100% its happened to someone else.
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@ everyone who's responded so far: I don't think you're understanding what he's asking for. You can't follow the guides word-for-word when there's words you don't understand in it, like flash. And even if the instructions were completely dumbed-down, some people would actually like to understand what and why they're doing this instead of blindly following orders. Plus, outside of the step-by-step instructions, writers will use the lingo again. These are terms that should really be addressed in the n00b guide but aren't. I'm just moving to the Sensation, and it's my first HTC phone, and it can be quite confusing!
@Craig:
Google is your friend. Just type in something like "RUU android" (without quotes) and you'll find plenty of answers. But, as someone who just spent several days trying to understand the lingo, I know that it takes time and sometimes some awesome searching skills to find the answers. Plus, I like explaining concepts I've just learned to others to make sure I definitely understand them! So, here you go:
eMMC: Embedded MultiMedia Card. Basically, it's like an SD card that's integrated into the hardware (and obviously can't be removed).
De-Branding: Most carriers load extra software/mods onto their devices. For example, you might have an app to interact with your account, see how many minutes you've used, pay bills, etc. You might also have a bootscreen (the one that plays right before the lockscreen shows up and can go on and on for several minutes depending on what mods you've just done) that has your carrier's logo, and various apps for other services, and a lot of other junk. When you "debrand" your phone, you're removing all the changes the carrier made and reverting to the manufacturer's version of the ROM.
Flashing: This basically means "installing from fastboot/recovery mode". The term refers to the "flash memory" in your device that's being used in the process.
RUU: ROM Update Utility. It's actually a PC application (made by HTC) that helps you update your ROM. The ROM it will install is bundled with it, so there's many RUUs available. For that reason, the term is frequently used to refer to a carrier-specific ROM. Very helpful if you want to unroot your phone and make the carrier think you've never done anything that voids the warranty.
Bootloader: Loads up the boot sequence on your device. It's the very first thing that runs when you power on your device (or computer, or anything that has an OS), and tells it (after some little self-tests) the physical location of the OS and how to start it.
Some good resources that aren't specific to the Sensation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805247
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146601 (the "general guides")
I am trying to attempt messing with this type of thing for the first time so noob handling will be required. My reason is simply my phone is a nice wallpaper display three days after the ota from tmobile 1.63.531.2 710rd.
I began by trying to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1505999
To no avail. Of course I noticed afterwards that for some reason it says to turn s-on in the header... exactly the opposite what what I need to flash the phone back to (PG59IMG_Doubleshot_TMOUS_1.28.531.9_Radio_10.48.9007.00U_10.12.9007.07_M2_release_201815_signed.zip) I have had problems with the phone ever since its first ota a year or so ago. With this latest ota the phone is more or less bricked as of the phone using power saver when I went to sleep last night... Wont call or check into the network...no dial tone. Took me 3-4 restarts for it to even show the antenna symbol and the 4g icon in the taskbar.
My phone is set as S-on for now. The only instructions I have found through the search tool relay how to do it to the sensation... I believe that is the mytouch 4g not slide. However I have the slide which is doubleshot. So my question is, is this instruction on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 safe to use with the doubleshot since the (T-Mobile branded HTC myTouch 4g Slide ( doubleshot ) Developers Reference) page links to it indirectly. Using the link at the top of the how to S-on after s-off... again the opposite of what I need so I tried following the link at the top of that page " Guide to Installing S-off, Unlocking, ClockWork, Root, SuperCID & S-on " which takes you to the s-off instruction page for the sensation (Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300 )...I am guessing that it will work and sensation refers to HTC sense, but I don't care to make the mistake of doing it wrong and bricking my phone due to being derp.
I know there is a bit of overdone explanation and redundancy in the addresses I have left here. I am just trying to cover all my bases thanks for the help in advance.
The short and sweet is I need a link by link list with instructions on how to step my phone back for multiple reasons. First the recent OTA more or less broke my phone and I don't want a refurb phone with inferior parts from Assurion...(They were in class action lawsuits for this in the past.) nor do I want to pay 130$ for said replacement. Next from what I just read the 1.63 update has some serious security compromises that are awaiting response from HTC for an update. Basically it gives full accesses to all your data to include your sim and SD card contents to all apps. Regardless of user specified/agreed permissions.
Following ANY routine or procedure for another phone is just too dangerous & will never work anyway. The bad part being you may very well create a brick in the process. If you have the MT4G SLIDE, this is where you will get all that you need so don't even consider other threads.
Since you've done the OTA & are sitting at Hboot 1.63.XXX now you will HAVE to get S-Off before you can go back to your previous Hboot. To DO that you will have to follow the instructions HERE.
If all you are wanting to do is start flashing ROMs, then the instructions you need are HERE.
Keep us informed & we'll try to help if you need it. Good Luck!
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Following ANY routine or procedure for another phone is just too dangerous & will never work anyway. The bad part being you may very well create a brick in the process. If you have the MT4G SLIDE, this is where you will get all that you need so don't even consider other threads.
Since you've done the OTA & are sitting at Hboot 1.63.XXX now you will HAVE to get S-Off before you can go back to your previous Hboot. To DO that you will have to follow the instructions HERE.
If all you are wanting to do is start flashing ROMs, then the instructions you need are HERE.
Keep us informed & we'll try to help if you need it. Good Luck!
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Thanks for the hasty post reply any other suggestions...I have win7ult 64bit. Or will will juopunutbutter work even though they have the below disclaimer?
"Supported Operating Systems:
We only support Windows 7 32bit or Ubuntu 12.04 (and newer) 32bit, you may use a LiveCD if you have the wrong OS installed natively. Win XP 32bit might work for you but we do not support it as we did not test on it."
Also, this, "Be on the Stock RUU and be rooted (have superuser flashed). No other ROMs are supported, Fresh ROM will not work regardless of what you have read elsewhere."
-I am not rooted. Which is something else I want to accomplish so I can set up firewalls that block certain things.
Oh btw provided I can get this phone working again I am also going to attempt to reflash my older mytouch 3g... back to original as well that thing worked better than any of the current phones for my purposes before it got the update prior to the 2.2.1... the original update didn't work with adobe which is fine with me, people need to move on from adobe's garbage anyway. Specifically with the old mytough 3g though that really did add functionality at the sacrifice of sanity since it slowed the phone down so much. On that note though I may just put on a custom if I can get comfortable with this stuff. The last time I looked at a pc this hard was back in win98se when you had to know how to do tricks to make it faster like modifying available rame to twice as much above and below physical ram and a few other tweeks I have long forgotten.
That brings me to another question. If I go custom rom and unlocked this looming threat of brick is weighing in on me. If a phone is bricked is it possible to recover using some of the same tools that bricked it in the first place... flash install original rom as a fix? Just trying to see how much margin of error I have to work with.
Thanks again.
PS who do we talk to about backing off all the java on the site since it is so compromised right now? This sight has more java permissions than most sights of ill reput... though I have been reading these forums off and on for a while so I trust it more than most with this much tracking. I doubt patch 11 actually fixed the issue...since the day before they said it would take two years or more to actually resolve the java zero day exploit.
You should be fine with your pc, I used a 64bit win7 too. If you're worried dual boot linux.
Your my touch 3g is rooted diferentley, go to that forum for details, its not true radio soff but its close enough.
If you brick it its dead, depending how it was bricked jtag could bring it back to life or this phone is part of the unbricking project which will fix some other bricks. Problem is people use brick as a term that means a whole lot of things so its hard to answer. Usually a brick is forever dead, most people don't actually brick their phone though and usually have to be neglecting things to do it.
As for java... just read up on a bunch of trustworthy places for more info and understanding
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I'm afraid I just don't know about Win 7 64bit and how it will react but I'm sure there has to be a person or two around with experience concerning that OS. It may very well work fine. I CAN tell you that the "wire trick" (junoptobear?) will work fine on MikTouch because that's what I used. It's a stripped down GB stock ROM which is all you're really looking for. Why....I don't know.
As far as bricking goes, there's not a GREAT deal to worry about as long as you follow all instructions to a tee. You REALLY don't have to even have S-Off to flash ROMs as you read in that link. You just need to flash the kernel after you flash the ROM. It WILL limit a few things you can do but not ROM flashing.
When it comes to rescueing a bricked device though, there are only a very few instances that can be done as far as I know. But I'm no developer either. But if you can make it to your bootloader and/or recovery you not bricked. It may be a hardware of software issue but most of the time you can come back from those.
As far as the Java issue you spoke of goes, you may be able to get an answer to that one by PM'ing one of our moderators or admins.
I want to step it back to previous versions because they worked better...primarily the first version... Also, I am not seeing a guide that refers to doing it to the 1.63 patch. keyboard hasn't swyped right since the first ota update. Also my intent is to root an older version so I can remove crapware like dt sync, friend stream, kidzone, tmobile mall, tmobile tv, tmobile setup, telenav gps, and zinio reader.
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I want to step it back to previous versions because they worked better...primarily the first version... Also, I am not seeing a guide that refers to doing it to the 1.63 patch. keyboard hasn't swyped right since the first ota update. Also my intent is to root an older version so I can remove crapware like dt sync, friend stream, kidzone, tmobile mall, tmobile tv, tmobile setup, telenav gps, and zinio reader.
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It's a simple flashing process but you HAVE to achieve S-Off first with the "Wire Trick". You can flash it forward without S-Off but not backwards. Does it work at all or is it just frozen to some point in the boot process? Can you access your SDcard? Can you boot to Hboot & recovery? These are a couple of things you will have to be able to do to go forward if I understand you correctly.
Hi Guys,
I'm trying to get a 'stable' rom for a phone I've given to my daughter (Evita / Telstra one XL).
I've tried a heap of things, tried to s-off, change radio files etc... Anyway, current status is that it's been unlocked, s-on, and I have twrp.. I'm using KickDroid XL v4.0.0 ROM, looks great, but the phone keeps on rebooting... Also loosing 3G signal, so have to reboot it quite a few times a day to resolve. (tired another rom, same problem, loss of 3g signal and multiple reboots during the day)
I'm sure it's got to do with the radio file, but can't seem to fix that. I've read 'so much!' information, but really confused now. I've tried to supercid it, unsuccessfully, tried to find the all-in-one toolking (bt it looks like its been removed)..
So, this is what I have when I boot it:
*** TAMPERED ***
*** UNLOCKED ***
EVITA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.11.0000
RADIO-0.23a.32.09.29
OpenDSP-v28.1.0.32.0504
eMMC-boot
Jun 7 2012,13:10:34
TWRP recovery
2.6.3.0
htc one xl
Evita
Any help in how to (or if I should) get the radio/hboot up to hopefully resolve the loss of 3G?
I'm no expert, but not that dumb either. I follow instructions from the start, but most of the time it gets stuck half way (ie, when doing supercid, boots to the HTC logo, but won't go any further)..
Any help really appreciated.
The problem is not that the ROM is unstable, the ROM is perfectly stable if you meet the requirements. The problem is your current firmware version. You need to update to the 2.15 firmware package. It does state that very clearly in the "You Need" section in the beginning of the Kickdroid thread. Please search/research properly before posting in future, it's part of the XDA rules. This issue has been discussed extensively in every single Sense 5 ROM thread, plus this is probably the 100th thread like this in our Q&A section.
Sent from my Evita
Why are you even giving your daughter a rooted/modded phone at all? Unless she has an understanding of what root means, its not a good idea. Does she even need anything except a bone stock phone?
thanks timmaaa, I appreciate you taking the time out to reply.
I'll do some more checking on firmware 2.15... I've honestly read about 5 hours last weekend on various threads... some lead to dead ends (it toolbox), some I can't get to work (supercid)... I tried this a couple of months ago, and almost bricked it, but managed to get twrp working...
Redpoint73, are you asking why give her a phone, or why a rooted phone? The answer to the first one is that she is 11, and catches the bus to and from school. The phone is used in an emergency. I've rooted it to give her some new features, and because it was locked with Telstra and that is not the carrier we are using anymore (much cheaper options here than Telstra), so I needed to get rid of the firmware...
Overall, I appreciate any help. I actually run 5 forums (car related), and I fully understand noob's coming on and asking the same question week after week. Our forums have a lot less posts than this one (< 200,000), but we still have members, week in-week out, answering the same questions because they like to help, and because sometimes there is too much information out there to sift through, especially when somebody is willing to point you in the right direction with a friendly smile
duplicate post, (sorry, hit save twice!)
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Redpoint73, are you asking why give her a phone, or why a rooted phone? The answer to the first one is that she is 11, and catches the bus to and from school. The phone is used in an emergency. I've rooted it to give her some new features, and because it was locked with Telstra and that is not the carrier we are using anymore (much cheaper options here than Telstra), so I needed to get rid of the firmware...
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Its pretty clear from my post that it was root/mod that I was referring to. Root has nothing to do with Subsidy (SIM) Lock, and the firmware has little to do with the carrier you are on (I've been using the German T-Mobile stock ROM for a while now, despite being on AT&T).
Of course its up to you to decide what you do with the phone. But you should consider (if you haven't already) the security risk of giving a rooted device to a user that knows little or nothing about such things. Even more so for s-off, which is necessary for the solution that timmaaa suggested.
My question has less to do with exactly "who" the phone is for. But more to the point, when people come on here saying they are modding the phone for "someone else" (be it mom, third cousin, or whatever), if that person isn't doing it for themselves, its pretty questionable whether they need such mods at all.
ok, thanks redpoint73..
I understand where you are coming from, and appreciate your comments.
Now, anybody else like to point me in the right direction (to a link to get the latest firmware, or a compatible one working)?
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Now, anybody else like to point me in the right direction (to a link to get the latest firmware, or a compatible one working)?
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You serious? timmaaa already told you where to find it.
Since I'm feeling charitable right now, here it is, complete with step-by-step instructions (only need to follow Posts #2 and 4): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2485865
The original thread where Turge posted his firmware package (see under "OPTIONAL", s-off is required before doing this): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45072132&postcount=1
Or just install the Beastmode kernel (S-off not required): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2165880
thanks mate. I appreciate the charity, I really do I'm trying not to be a nob.. I'm actually having another go this morning... I've got win 8.1 (yeah, I know) so trying to get the latest driver to work is a pain.... Just trying x_factory windows, backups up twice, but then doesn't run the next command (to change CID)...
Anyway, thanks again. I'll persist on...