[Q] Clean an Android phone's bloatware like a PC's? - General Questions and Answers

When I get a new computer that's filled to the brim with bloatware, I put my cleaning gloves on and uninstall every thing on that machine until it's a clean-slate - looking like Windows was just installed.
I just got an Android phone and - surprise surprise! - it has bloatware packed in by Verizon!
Before I get ahead of myself, my device is a Droid RAZR (16GB) on the Verizon network running Android 2.3.6 using the latest OTA update of 6.12.181. (Uses CDMA, too.)
Now, when I get a new computer I do one of two things:
I manually un-install all the bloatware or
I install a clean copy of Windows.
On Android, option 1 doesn't work since the bloat is built into the device's ROM. My question is about option 2.
Now from the research I've done, a custom ROM is usually the work of a team who takes a clean Android ROM and builds on top of it, adding apps and themes.
I want to skip the middle man and just have a clean Android ROM to flash onto my device. No added applications by a team (or my carrier), just a blank slate that Google created to begin with. Sorta like installing a clean copy of Windows.
So: does anyone know where I can find this mythical ROM?

Both options you mentioned will require you to root your phone. And rooting your phone usually means that you void your warranty.
I don't think i have seen a vanilla Android ROM for the Razr, then again i haven't looked that hard.
So you have a couple of options.
1. Root your phone and manually remove the apps you don't want
2. Root your phone, install custom rom and remove the apps you don't want.
3. Root your phone, download the source code from source.android.com, compile and install.

Thanks for the heads up, I did a lot of research before this post and I have a rooted phone already. In fact, I've even installed a custom ROM but I'd much rather have a clean version of Android and build on that for myself.
I'm going to look into vanilla ROMs and if I can't find anything, I'll research into making my own ROM
Out of curiosity, why do you think that vanilla ROMs aren't as popular as modified ones? I'd imagine more people would be asking for just plain Android ROMs and installing whatever they wanted.

Vanilla ROMs aren't popular cause custom roms throw in stuff Google didn't give you.
Sent from my U8150 using XDA

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[Q] Backing up the phone before trying a ROM

Hi,
I'm moderately experienced with windows/linux system, but fairly new to the android OS. Specially when it comes to custom ROM.
I would like to give the custom ROM a try. But being a careful person, I would like a method to backup/restore the phone completely in case I mess things up. I've used imaging softwares like clonezilla on PCs. But when it comes to an android phones, I'm not completely sure how to go about getting the phone imaged so that I can restore it if anything goes wrong.
So far, this is as much as I know about Backup/Restore for an android device.
1. You need to root the device (already done)
2. You'll need some 3rd party application (something similar to clonezilla for android phones)
I have 2 questions:
1. I've seen some similar posts for different phones. But I'm not completely clear if all instructions are the same for all android phones. Or if there are some differences for each phone? If there are, what are they?
2. What 3rd party application could I use to get this done?
(I'm interested in working with free/open source application to get the job done.)
I have Samsung Infuse 4G (from Rogers) with Android 2.3.3.
Thanks
Your asking for quite a bit of info...basically you need to root, then install Clockworkmod recovery, then flash a rom of your choice. Try THIS link to get you started. THIS is also a good write up.
As far as backing up go, Clockworkmod (CWM) has a backup/restore option so you can back up your current setup and flash away.
If you want to restore things like apps to your new rom, try Titanium Backup from the market, your also gonna need Root Explorer to view/edit files and possibly Rom Manager for some installation methods. (both in the Market also)
EDIT: This write just popped up in the dev section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442177

Meaning of Custom roms, kernels etc.

Can anyone explain me the meaning of 1.Custom Roms
2.Kernels
3.CMW Recovery
Also Does any Custom Rom allows me to change the boot animation?
Any help would be appreciated.
OK Im goin to try
Custom ROM - you could think of it as modified version of android. Stock ROM is ROM that comes with your phone when you but it. Custom ROMs are mostly debloated (without crap apps that just slow you phone etc. and they are tweaked to run more efficiently)
Kernel is a piece of software that is a core of your OS and basically mediates comunication between hardware and applications.
CWM Recovery is a "upgrade" of default recovery. It enables you to do NAND Backups and Restores of your whole phone, and many other great features that you cant do on default recovery. Its very powerfull tool
OK I hope that this will help you
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S using xda app-developers app
pansysk75 said:
Can anyone explain me the meaning of 1.Custom Roms
2.Kernels
3.CMW Recovery
Also Does any Custom Rom allows me to change the boot animation?
Any help would be appreciated.
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I'm new to the Android/Rooting community so take everything I say with a grain of salt. I'm still learning, but this is what I've learned in the past month of tinkering with this stuff:
1) A custom ROM is like a custom version of the software you interact with. Android by itself is not configured to each specific device it is installed on. So, the manufacturers (like Acer, Asus, Samsung, etc) take that android compilation and configure it for the devices they sell. Each of these configurations is different and some of them prevent you from having full functionality, whereas others might be bloated/slow/need other tweaks. Enter some awesome guys here on the XDA-forums and other places who took these manufacturer-specific installs and stock installs and customized them to enhance performance, battery life, change the look and feel, and offer various tweaks & fixes.
2. A kernel is the underlying code that runs the operating system. I haven't messed with this stuff yet, I don't know much about it, and if you don't know anything just DON'T mess with it. Breaking the kernel will completely prevent you from using your device (I'm applying my computer knowledge to assume the Linux/android kernel operates on the same principles as computers)
3. CWM recovery stands for clockwork mod recovery. Basically, these stock tablets and devices include a "recovery" module built-in that lets you backup your tablet and hopefully restore it in case things go horribly, horribly wrong. CWM is an after-market/3rd-party recovery that has a TON of functionality and is very well-supported and updated. Most tutorials assume you HAVE CWM recovery installed so its a pretty awesome and pretty important program to have. The CWM recovery wiki has more information depending on your model of device.
I hope this answers your questions, and if I am mistaken in any aspect I encourage another member to correct me.
Thanks,
Opethfan89
This link explains all kinds of android terminology. I was incorrect about a few things, glad I found this: link here
Thanks for your time!
pansysk75 said:
Thanks for your time!
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as for your other question about bootanimations....you only have to be rooted to install a boot animation. and depending on the original location (some manufacturers put it in system/media orthes in a non-root required location)
find an animation you like, download it, use root explorer or another file explorer and copy it to the system/media folder and change permissions to rw/r/r and reboot and it will play the new animation.
there are also apps on the market (Rom toolbox) that has a TON of tablet specific animations, it will download them, and install them for you....and as long as you are rooted you just have to sit back and relax

GUIDE SGS4 GSM vs CDMA, Unlocking, Rooting,Info on XDA, Flashing,4 noobs & beginners

GUIDE SGS4 GSM vs CDMA, Unlocking, Rooting,Info on XDA, Flashing,4 noobs & beginners
First off: if you find this useful, please hit the THANKS button, instead of posting thank you in the comments
Over the course of the past three months (and more specifically, over the past week), I'd like to think I've gone from complete noob to proficient android ROM flasher/ phone dude. However, it took many, many hours of searching for info scattered across this site and others, so I figured I'd give compiling all I've learned a shot, into one comprehensive thread that really covers all the stuff you need to learn from the ground up.
Will do so in the next couple 10 posts, topics being:
*Step (-1): What type of network/ phone technology does your phone use?
*Step (0): is your phone networked locked?
*Step (0.5): DECIDING YOU WANT TO ROOT YOUR DEVICE!/ Put a custom operating system on that thaaaang
*Step1: figure out what your device is- specific phone and model
*Step2: figure out how to root (gain root access to) your device looking at XDA forums
*Step3: Follow instructions, root device
*Step4: backup all your apps and app data
*Step5: Install a custom recovery either ClockWorkRecovery (CWR) or Team Win Recovery Project (TWRP), and do a nandroid backup!
*Step6: Choose which ROM or multiple ROMS you want to try out, and download the zipfile to your phone's internal memory or
*Step7: Step 7: flash the ROM and restore your apps!
NOTE: YOU TWEEK YOUR PHONE/ FOLLOW MY ADVICE AT YOUR OWN RISK
I just learned this stuff myself, so I thought now would be a good time to explain it, while I can still remember what if feels like to have no idea what I'm doing haha.
Before I go further, there are similar intro threads to this...for example, this one does a decent job of explaining that by modding your phone, you may void the warranty (although there are ways to restore your device to a state such that you can't tell you ever modded, it, like triangle away, etc.) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118120
I posted this here because a couple of these steps use the Galaxy S4 i9500 as an example...so if you have that phone this thread should be particularly helpful.
Step(-1): What type of network/ phone technology does your phone use?
If you are OUTSIDE the USA, 99% chance the answer to this question is GSM, meaning your phone number is attached to a little plastic sim card that you can put into/ out of your phone...you should check anyways though to be sure.
If you are in the US, you may have a phone which uses CDMA, a technology that does not use Sim cards (true if your carrier is Verizon or Sprint). Phones that JUST use CDMA are sort of "Hardwired" to their networks, making it much more of a hassle to switch carriers; plus, basically everywhere else in the world uses GSM, so if you plan on traveling outside the USA, you probably won't be able to use your phone abroad. If you have a fancy new smart phone, it may have the hardware to use both CDMA and GSM networks, (for example, all Iphones models 4s and above), so check your phone specs.
In the US, the major carriers that use GSM are ATT and Tmobile. I prefer getting phones from these guys, because I know I'll be able to relatively easily use my phone anywhere in the world, and easily switch between cheap, prepaid, contract free plans (like straight talk or ultramobile), which rent out the networks of major carriers like ATT and Tmobile.
Step(0): is your phone networked locked?
ans: This is mostly a non-issue to folks outside the US, or if you don't plan on switching your carrier, but if you plan on travelling abroad or switching your carrier, and have a CDMA phone, you have a tough road ahead that I cannot advise you on . I would suggest checking out this site and buying a slightly used android gsm phone (att or tmobile branded) http://swappa.com/ .
However, if you have a GSM phone you got in the US, your phone may be configured so that putting sim cards from different carriers in it won't give you any service (aka "locked" or "network locked"). Check by taking a friend's Sim card using a different network than you and popping it into your phone; if you have service/ can make and receive calls, the phone is NOT locked. There are probably more sophisticated ways of checking if your phone is network locked, but above is probably the most straightforward.
There are some methods of unlocking your phone for free, but if you have a newer phone it may not work. Plenty of online sites that sell you unlock codes for between $7-$25, and send the code over email either instantly or a day at most after you buy it. Definitely worth it in my opinion; one site I've used a bunch is http://www.cellunlocker.net/
NOTE: if you have your phone on a contract, you are still obligated to pay your carrier throughout the time of your contract, else you pay some cancellation fee. So be aware of that.
Step 0.5 DECIDING YOU WANT TO ROOT YOUR DEVICE!/ Put a custom operating system (ROM)
SO, now let's say you've network unlocked your awesome GSM android smartphone, and you want to travel with it to another country, like for example, India. Because you unlocked it, you can buy a cheap local Sim card and use it in your phone, fully enjoying mobile 4g data (well, more like 3.5G, using HSPA+, not so much 4G LTE in India yet, but I digress). OR, you can use a $45 a month prepaid plan where you get unlimted everything and have no contract, instead of paying $80 a month or some garbage. AWESOME!
However, let's say you got a Tmobile phone and want to use the phone's capability of being a portable wifi hotspot, broadcasting the mobile data it's getting to your computer...turns out you can't do that in India (or on cheap prepaid plans in US, for that matter). I discovered that since I was using a Tmobile branded phone, the Tmobile "stock" operating system of the phone won't let you use the wifi hotspot unless you have Tmobile's special "hotspot plan"...it also hard codes a bunch of shi**y bloatware apps on your phone that suck. Some BULLS**T, eh?
Luckily, there are plenty of free and easy ways to "root" (gain root acccess) to your phone (and plenty of resources telling you how to do so!), and install custom android operating systems on your phone, which
1.) don't have any stupid bloatware apps
2.) let you use all the hardware features of your phone regardless of carrier
The result is a more powerful phone that runs faster, uses less battery life, and is generally just way more badass. Probably the best resource for how to do all of this is the xda-developers forums (http://forum.xda-developers.com/ ) Very vibrant community, and lots of people will help...just follow the rules though, explained tongue and cheeck in the following video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA ). The main site for xda-developers is www.xda-developers.com, they also do cool vides and stuff on what's up with phone stuff. HOWEVER, if you are not careful you can mess up your phone, so that it's about as good as a paperweight (called "bricking" your phone). So just read all the instructions before you do stuff, yeah?
The following is more or less the beginning steps I did to root and install a custom ROM on a friend's Galaxy S4, which is an international model and so not network locked. The same general process could be applied to your phone as well, but again--this is only a general guide--your phone can (and probably will) have it's own exceptions to the general process. LOOK THEM UP!
Steps 1,2,3: find device model, research how to gain root, ROOT!
Step1: figure out what your device is- specific phone and model
ans: for example, my friend's phone I am setting up for him is the Samsung Galaxy S4 model i9500
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Step2: figure out how to root (gain root access to) your device
ans: Off all the devices on xda forums (http://forum.xda-developers.com/index.php?tab=top), found my device ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4) , found the proper forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/help) , then searched in that specific forum to find the proper thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2419762 , see Q4
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Step3: Follow instructions, root device
ans: Instructions are at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292615
NOTE: You must have the proper USB drivers installed, meaning either installing the sdk (software developer kit) from google and getting adb (android debugging bridge) set up (this is the best way to do it, really, especially if you want to mess around with phones more...tutorial on how to setup adb here http://androidcentral.us/2013/08/how-to-install-android-adb-and-fastboot-on-windows/ ) . If you can already transfer music and stuff from your computer, it may work without adb. Be sure your USB cable is not too beat up, and if possible, is the one that came with the device.
adb is very useful for communicating between pretty much any android phone and your computer. You can use it to push files on the computer through the terminal interface, even if the phone's file system doesn't show up for whatever reason on the computer when you connect it via USB ( more on that here http://log.amitshah.net/2012/05/using-adb-to-copy-files-to-from-your-android-device/ ), and a cool little program to send files from your computer to the device in a slightly more straightforward way, if you already have adb installed (http://www.xda-developers.com/android/push-files-to-your-device-with-quick-adb-pusher/)
Also, make sure you have USB debugging enabled. It should be in the Develpors options, which you may have to "activate" to see...see here http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/enable-hidden-developer-options-your-samsung-galaxy-s4-0146687/
If you are rooting a samsung device, you will probably have to use a program called ODIN. Other android devices allow you to do root through a method called flashboot. In general there are tons of ways to root devices, just make sure the one you are using has been tested and you follow the instructions exactly.
CONGRATS! you are rooted. That's half the battle. Rooting the phone will add a "Super User" app of some kind, which will basically controll which apps have access to the internal files of the phone (located on the "root" of the phone's flash drive). Some apps that are very useful for flashing custom ROMS (like ROM manager) and backing up your apps and their associated data (like Titanium backup) require root access, so you'll need to have rooted your phone first, and then when you open those apps for the first time, tap "allow" when it asks about granting root access.
some cool apps can only be downloaded if your phone has Root, like this gameboy emulator: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.codlab.src.game&hl=en
and here are some good Root apps to have, apparently
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX4ir9r84YA
Step4: backup all your apps and app data
When you do eventually install a custom ROM on onto your phone, it will start out with little to no apps. The best way to get up and running again as quick as possible is to back up all your apps and data with Titanium Backup (mentioned above), which requires root access. Here's a great video on How to use the free version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQWoWfTA88k ....the video makes a good point in that if you are backing up your apps for a new ROM you are about to flash, you should only backup the User apps. Backing up and restoring the system data as well might cause some problems in the new ROM
While you don't need to to buy the pro version, I would recommend it--7 bucks, but it allows you to restore all the apps you've backed up much faster by letting you back them up into a zip file that you'll later be able to flash on your phone. Very useful, more on that in a bit...video talking about that here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRR5FONGJUA
Step5: Install a custom recovery either ClockWorkRecovery (CWR) or Team Win Recovery
By "custom recovery", i mean a custom version of the boot/ recovery interface, which lets you do a lot more with your device besides just restore it to factory settings. These custom recoveries will let you do a full backup of your device (often called a "nandroid backup"--this should be the first thing you do after you root your device!), as well as flash custom phone operating systems (ROMS) onto your phone; useful if you want to fully use all the hardware features of your phone, and not have the bloatware apps from the manufacurers hard-coded into your phone.
It's worth noting here that it's VERY important to install the correct version of CWR or TWRP. Usually to download CWR for your device, you can just download an app called ROM manager (again, after you've rooted your phone), which will recognize your device and then install the proper CWR version on it.
NOTE: If you have a more esoteric model of phone (like I do--the Samsung Galaxy S3 T999L, an LTE version of the S3 that came out in 2013, a while after the initial S3 launch), you may have to flash a custom recovery of a similar and more popular phone model to flash some custom ROMS (in my case, I had to flash the the Galaxy S3 model T999 version of CWR). For weird esoteric cases like this, it may be worth it to buy a useful app, ROMToolbox pro, which will let you flash a custom recovery for a userdefined device onto your phone in the paid version (it's like $5). Most times you shouldn't have to worry about this stuff, but just make sure you read any instrutions on XDA forums carefully before doing stuff.
As mentioned before, before messing around with your phone anymore, do a nandroid backup--super easy and essential if you make a mistake installing the wrong ROM or Recovery. Doing a nandroid backup will create a .zip file that contains a full "image" of your phone--all your data, apps, settings, a snapshot of your phone exactly the way it was when you took it. In creating this backup you can save it to your phone's micro SD card, or the phones internal memory. Regardless, always a good idea to save a copy on your computer too when you are done.
For the Samsung galaxy S4 i9500, looks like TWRP is the recovery to flash: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2361122
Step6: Choose which ROM or multiple ROMS you want to try out, and dl zipfile to phone
Now comes the fun part. Do some research on what custom ROM you'll want to try out. Some basic principles about ROMS:
Roms based on the Stock OS: These ROMS are based on the manufacturer firmware/ OS that the phone shipped with. So for Samsung devices, for example, these types of ROMS are Touchwiz based (because "TouchWiz" is the name Samsung has given to it's proprietary software that is responsible for a lot of the bell and whistle tricks you see in Galaxy S4 commercials, for example) These Roms are usually about 700 MB in size, and may still have some of the samsung apps installed if you do like to use them.
AOSP or AOKP ROMS:
AOSP (Android Open Source Project) ROMS are those that ship with "vanilla" android, meaning they don't have any manufacturer bloatware--they come with more or less the bare bones apps required to run the system. These ROMS will be much smaller, around 100-150 MB in size. The most popular of these is CyanogenMod, which is often referred to as just CM (for example, CM11.0.1 stands for CyanogenMod version 11.0.1). The guy who made clockworkrecovery, Koush (a legendary android developer of sorts, it seems), now works for the CyanogenMod development team ( think)
AOKP is the name of another popular AOSP based ROM. AOKP stands for Android Open Kang Project, Kanging being some jargon for stealing code and messing with it or something. Apparently it was used as a joke and then stuck, in the same sense that their mascot being a unicorn stuck (which I think is awesome haha).
IMPORTANT POINT ABOUT AOSP ROMS:
If you flash an AOSP Rom, the google play store will NOT be installed by default. In order to fix that, you'll need to flash another zip file containing the play store app as well as other basic google apps (gapps for short) as soon as you flash the Rom itself. You can find the proper gapps zips that go with the proper AOSP roms here: http://goo.im/gapps
There are couple apps that will let you download the ROM files directly to your interal storage from the app itself, like Rom Manager. However, to make sure you have the most up to date version of the ROM, you should visit the ROM's website directly.
Custom ROMS will often have a most recent stable build, and a most recent "nightly" build. The nightly builds may have some new experimental features, but may be a little buggy.
Step 7: flash the ROM and restore your apps!
So here's a pretty good short video walking through how to flash a ROM, although uses a different recovery interface besides CWR or TWRP : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxTwGwtUBbk ....this does a good job of explaining the basic idea, however--
A.)you get the zip file of the ROM you want to flash on your internal or removable SD card
B.) reboot into recovery mode (often by holding down the volume down key and power button at the same time when your power is off, but you should look up what it is for your specific device)
C.) do a Wipe or Factory Reset. THis should not wipe the data on your SD card or phone's Internal SD card
D.) Wipe the Cache or the Dalvik Cache, whatever it is called (though on TWRP, the wipe feature does both a factory reset and cache wipe at once)
E.) install from SD card the zip file containing the ROM you are going to flash
F.) If the Rom is an AOSP based ROM, install the zip file containing the proper package of google apps
G.) reboot system
Again, the above are just general steps. If you want to see someone flashing a ROM with the recovery you are using (and I would recommend CWR or TWRP), just search for it on Youtube.
Now, if you plan on restoring your apps by flashing a Titanium Backup zip file, you first want to reboot into the new ROM, and skip the part when it asks you if you want to restore your phone using your google account (you can do that later). Then reboot into recovery and flash the Titanium backup zip file. got this info here: http://www.s3forums.com/forum/galax...backup-pros-update-zip-restore-your-apps.html
And that's about it! let me know if I got anything wrong. If you do have questions, I'll try my best to answer them, but again, I've just learned all this stuff as well, so I may not know.

I need a little bit of info.

So ever since I heard about rooting Android devices I innediately done some research on how to do it and I did it. I have had this root on my Samsung Grand Duos for a while now and all I have done is have a few apps (Lucky patcher, Freedom, and Exposed with 1 plugin or w.e) and I am pretty sure I can do far more than just that, so that's why I made this thread. I have a few questions I would like to be answered if you know anything about it.
1) What are customs ROMs and what can I use them for?
2) I am a developer and I have helped make some apps for both iOS and Android, would my root be useful in any way?
3) When I tried to upgrade my version of Android it told me that my version was modified, is there any way I can upgrade to the latest version? And would it remove my root?
4) Is root only compitable with specific versions? Like when a new version comes out, can you root it immediately or do you have to wait for something to do the root process again?
5)My device storage is pretty small and it makes it a pain in the ass to install apps, is there any way that I can edit that? (I am probably going crazy with this. lol)
Thank you.
Bump, would still like some help.
1) 3) 4) a custom Rom is a modified android, mostly based on clean aosp. The example CyanogenMod: you can choose between different Android versions. And with a custom ROM you have great efforts such like theming engine, overclocking or other nice features that are really useful but uncommon in stock ROMs. So I recommended anyone who decides to root his phone to flash a custom ROM neither a stock root
A lot of the info is available on XDA forums, tutorials, and on Google so I suggest you start doing some research as it will help you understand wholly much better...
1 - Custom roms are what nico331999 explained. Modified android firmware made for each specific phone model by developers. Its their take on android and most come with many extra features, themes, launchers, based on different android versions, etc. Cyanogenmod is one the popular ones, but there are a lot more. You would have to search the forums for your specific phone. In order to install a custom rom, root is not enough there are other things you would have to do which you will again need to find out for your phone. Generally speaking you have to unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, then flash a custom rom along with gapps.
2 - If you develop apps which utilise root access you can allow them sort of 'admin' access to everything on your phone, so you can perform any task with the app which requires such access. One example is replacing system level apps.
3- If you install a custom rom it will have its own version of Android, usually they are updated versions. You can download the FTF file for the most updated firmware version for your phone and then flash it on your phone. You'll be able to search online for instructions and downloads. A new firmware will remove your root and you will need to root it again. You can search for pre rooted firmwares though to avoid that step.
4 - Yes, you have to search for a rooting method for each firmware version of each phone. Developers (great guys) figure out these methods and post them online for the world!
5 - If your device has SD card support you can install many apps on the SD card to save some space using apps such as Apps2SD or Links2SD. You can move all your media to your SD card. If your device doesn't support SD cards I suggest you move as much data as possible to your computer, and maybe use cloud storage at the same time. Also, since you have rooted your phone, you can use an app like Titanium to uninstall bloatware (unused apps which you cannot usually uninstall).
All of this stuff seems like a handful when you first get into it, but you need to get out there and start researching these topics for it to all fall together in place...
I have to add something with apps to SD: some manufacturers (especially Samsung) have a very weird external storage handling (called emulated storage) which doesn't allow you to move your whole apks. It only saves user data.
ishaang said:
A lot of the info is available on XDA forums, tutorials, and on Google so I suggest you start doing some research as it will help you understand wholly much better...
1 - Custom roms are what nico331999 explained. Modified android firmware made for each specific phone model by developers. Its their take on android and most come with many extra features, themes, launchers, based on different android versions, etc. Cyanogenmod is one the popular ones, but there are a lot more. You would have to search the forums for your specific phone. In order to install a custom rom, root is not enough there are other things you would have to do which you will again need to find out for your phone. Generally speaking you have to unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, then flash a custom rom along with gapps.
2 - If you develop apps which utilise root access you can allow them sort of 'admin' access to everything on your phone, so you can perform any task with the app which requires such access. One example is replacing system level apps.
3- If you install a custom rom it will have its own version of Android, usually they are updated versions. You can download the FTF file for the most updated firmware version for your phone and then flash it on your phone. You'll be able to search online for instructions and downloads. A new firmware will remove your root and you will need to root it again. You can search for pre rooted firmwares though to avoid that step.
4 - Yes, you have to search for a rooting method for each firmware version of each phone. Developers (great guys) figure out these methods and post them online for the world!
5 - If your device has SD card support you can install many apps on the SD card to save some space using apps such as Apps2SD or Links2SD. You can move all your media to your SD card. If your device doesn't support SD cards I suggest you move as much data as possible to your computer, and maybe use cloud storage at the same time. Also, since you have rooted your phone, you can use an app like Titanium to uninstall bloatware (unused apps which you cannot usually uninstall).
All of this stuff seems like a handful when you first get into it, but you need to get out there and start researching these topics for it to all fall together in place...
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Thanks a lot, ishaang, you were a lot of help to me.

Rooting for the first time.

Hello everyone,
First let me start of by saying that I love this forum, I love the idea of it; having all android consumers' needs all grouped in one place I wish they were different websites as focused as this one. And I am thankful for every person in this pseudo system that helps everyday, make it a better version of what it is.
I've been considering rooting my device for months. Now, I finally have some time to get to it.
I saved up some questions while browsing the forums, I am hoping you could save 2 minutes to answer whatever question you think your best suited to answer. (I am patient )
1. If I freeze/ delete bloatware from my device, does it become aosp?
2. After downloading, can I download Aosp as my ROM or do I have to use a custom rom like Lineage, MIUI, etc ...?
3. When I Am using a ROM + an android launcher, do the ressources(Battery, memory, ...) used by both add up. What I am asking is it always better to use a rom without a launcher?
4. What are CAFs?
5. what exactly is CMW or TWRP?
6. If I already have greenify, do I need doze? or is it redundant? (stock rom is kitkat 4.4)
I'll be posting again, because, I don't want to brick my phone (SIGH!), untill then have a good day.
CWM and TWRP are custom recoveries that let you install zip files. Custom ROMs and other mods come in zip form so you need TWRP if you want to install anything like Roms.
What device are you planning on rooting?
Anarhy said:
Hello everyone,
First let me start of by saying that I love this forum, I love the idea of it; having all android consumers' needs all grouped in one place I wish they were different websites as focused as this one. And I am thankful for every person in this pseudo system that helps everyday, make it a better version of what it is.
I've been considering rooting my device for months. Now, I finally have some time to get to it.
I saved up some questions while browsing the forums, I am hoping you could save 2 minutes to answer whatever question you think your best suited to answer. (I am patient )
1. If I freeze/ delete bloatware from my device, does it become aosp?
2. After downloading, can I download Aosp as my ROM or do I have to use a custom rom like Lineage, MIUI, etc ...?
3. When I Am using a ROM + an android launcher, do the ressources(Battery, memory, ...) used by both add up. What I am asking is it always better to use a rom without a launcher?
4. What are CAFs?
5. what exactly is CMW or TWRP?
6. If I already have greenify, do I need doze? or is it redundant? (stock rom is kitkat 4.4)
I'll be posting again, because, I don't want to brick my phone (SIGH!), untill then have a good day.
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1) no, if you freeze/remove bloatware it does not make AOSP.
2) The ROMs you use will depend on what(if anything) is available for your model number, there may be no custom ROMs or there may be up to 10 or 20 custom ROMs. It just depends on whether anyone has chosen to build ROMs and what type of ROM(s) they choose to build. This is all determined by the model number of your device.
3) Yes, everything that is installed, loaded and running will use battery. I don't exactly undrstand why or what you are asking this for.
4) http://openattitude.com/2016/01/18/android-6-custom-roms-aosp-vs-caf/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/caf-vs-caf-t3341502
5) CWM(ClockWorkMod) and TWRP(Team Win Recovery Project) are custom recoveries used to flash ROMs, make backups, restore backups, wipe the devices partitions, adb access and management, etc..
6) Greenify freezes apps and Doze puts the device in deep sleep so it's OK to use them together as long as it doesn't cause a conflict, it may depend on how you arrange each of their settings.
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