I have Samsung Hercules (sgs2 for TMO) for sometime now and though there is plenty to love about that phone, I don't like the audio quality on it. To those of you thinking I must be a snobbish audiophile kind...no I'm not that, far from that, I have $30 IEMs and there is big difference when I switch from mp3 player to the phone. I've tried DSPs and EQs, it still is not good enough. I had HD2 before that and I didn't feel that much of difference going from mp3 player to phone. Now judging by gsmarena review, it seems One S has pretty excellent audio and I'm thinking of change.
Biggest deal breaker however for me is non-expandable storage on One S, but I think I can manage with 16GB. Which brings me to my first question, how much space is available to user out of this 16gb on the phone ?
What are the other major/minor issues on this phone worth mentioning (i dont care about non removable battery).
My Ville is just fine but some people have issues with theirs.
You get 2GB for apps and about 10GB for your "SD card". It's really not a huge deal. I use Spotify and Google Music so I don't have to keep much on the phone anyways.
Sounds just fine by the way.
This phone doesnt have many problems. It is probly tmobile's best right now
Sense 4 is nice and not too bloaty, camera is speedy, and this phone is lightning fast
However, it does like to get hot when I play games
keevinluong said:
This phone doesnt have many problems. It is probly tmobile's best right now
Sense 4 is nice and not too bloaty, camera is speedy, and this phone is lightning fast
However, it does like to get hot when I play games
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Yeh I noticed this too when playing games, but it keeps on going without problems. I think this is normal, it has to much power under the hood
Beats audio kick ass ...
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I had a Galaxy SII for a while the beats audio system blows that phones whole audio system out of the water
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One gripe I have is why my facebook calendar doesn't display the correct time when synced with my calendars on my phone. I had an event tonight at 8 that was correct on facebook (central time zone) but it was being displayed an hour ahead for 9 PM.
Another gripe I have is the screen itself. The pentile display looks grainy.
My third gripe is that it randomly rebooted three times now when I was leaving work. I was listening to music I had pinned to listen offline from google music. My phone is connected to my work wifi, but when it switches to the regular cell network while listening to google music, it reboots. I am not streaming music with google music, its already been pinned to listen offline.
Fourth gripe is related to google music and HTC's music player. When I pin songs to play while offline, I don't know why HTC's music player doesn't recognize them. So I can't use them to make ringtones unless I have them loaded onto my phone.
Gripe number 4.5 is that this phone doens't support FLAC files. I am just getting into this file format, tho, so its not a big deal.
Fifth gripe is that I wish the app drawer had the same swipe effect that the galaxy nexus has where if you swipe it to the side, the next group of apps comes from the back to the front.
Sixth gripe is I don't know why but when my my phone is plugged into my speakers and I get a notification like a text or an email, for some reason it interrupts the music and the notification sound plays through the speakers. I'll have to experiment with this some more, tho.
Seventh gripe is all the t-mobile bloatware. Yes, I can root it if I really wanted to, but I'm too lazy.
Eighth gripe is swype. Doesn't install because of the 3-dotted menu button that appears that makes swype think the resolution is less than it really is. And the native HTC Swype keyboard blows.
With all that said, BEATS AUDIO IS SOO RAD!! Except I haven't really found an equalizer. But I only listen to my music through google music, so I don't know. Also, the sound through the speaker is so crisp and clear!
AND it is very very fast and snappy! The camera is SO fast. I haven't shot any videos with it yet, but just a few pictures.
As for all my gripes, I reckon that there are some fixes for some of them. I am considering getting a galaxy nexus to see how it compares and then sell whichever one I don't like. I looked at a galaxy nexus today at the store, tho, and while it was a demo unit that keeps the screen on all the time, there was still bad bad burn in. Anyway, I hope that helps you out a bit.
Only issues ive had are really minor bugs. Like when i play temple run it sometimes lags out even though i cleared the ram and cleared any running apps. i disabled everything tmobile put on the phone but it doesnt matter cause their **** keeps popping up -_- will have to root i guess.
biggest thing with my particular phone was the call quality. it SUCKED. everyone i heard on my phone sounded really buzzy and shaky. waiting on a replacement. i really have had no real issues except for random crap that happens due to apps and stuff and limitations on certain apps. its a really good phone =) i love it. just need to get used to its length is all.
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Eighth gripe is swype. Doesn't install because of the 3-dotted menu button that appears that makes swype think the resolution is less than it really is. And the native HTC Swype keyboard blows.
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i noticed the htc keyboard has a stock swype in it while u type which kinda bugs me a lil bit since i don't mess with swype too much . .makes it feel kind of a lag while u just one key type it
You can turn that feature off. Just go to settings>language and keyboards>HTC Sense Input> and turn off trace keyboard if you already haven't.
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Fourth gripe is related to google music and HTC's music player. When I pin songs to play while offline, I don't know why HTC's music player doesn't recognize them. So I can't use them to make ringtones unless I have them loaded onto my phone.
Gripe number 4.5 is that this phone doens't support FLAC files. I am just getting into this file format, tho, so its not a big deal.
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It wont see the files because Google Music puts a .nomedia file in the folder that it downloads the music files to. DoubleTwist is able to see past that and allows you to play the downloaded files. It might have FLAC support too, not sure.
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Eighth gripe is swype. Doesn't install because of the 3-dotted menu button that appears that makes swype think the resolution is less than it really is. And the native HTC Swype keyboard blows.
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Annoying, but nothing to do with HTC, the Swype guys need to update their app
ive got swype working on mine.. With and without the 3 dot menu..
I just installed it from a TB backup which i had from my sensation...
works flawlessly.. So it is supported
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One gripe I have is why my facebook calendar doesn't display the correct time when synced with my calendars on my phone. I had an event tonight at 8 that was correct on facebook (central time zone) but it was being displayed an hour ahead for 9 PM.
Another gripe I have is the screen itself. The pentile display looks grainy.
My third gripe is that it randomly rebooted three times now when I was leaving work. I was listening to music I had pinned to listen offline from google music. My phone is connected to my work wifi, but when it switches to the regular cell network while listening to google music, it reboots. I am not streaming music with google music, its already been pinned to listen offline.
Fourth gripe is related to google music and HTC's music player. When I pin songs to play while offline, I don't know why HTC's music player doesn't recognize them. So I can't use them to make ringtones unless I have them loaded onto my phone.
Gripe number 4.5 is that this phone doens't support FLAC files. I am just getting into this file format, tho, so its not a big deal.
Fifth gripe is that I wish the app drawer had the same swipe effect that the galaxy nexus has where if you swipe it to the side, the next group of apps comes from the back to the front.
Sixth gripe is I don't know why but when my my phone is plugged into my speakers and I get a notification like a text or an email, for some reason it interrupts the music and the notification sound plays through the speakers. I'll have to experiment with this some more, tho.
Seventh gripe is all the t-mobile bloatware. Yes, I can root it if I really wanted to, but I'm too lazy.
Eighth gripe is swype. Doesn't install because of the 3-dotted menu button that appears that makes swype think the resolution is less than it really is. And the native HTC Swype keyboard blows.
With all that said, BEATS AUDIO IS SOO RAD!! Except I haven't really found an equalizer. But I only listen to my music through google music, so I don't know. Also, the sound through the speaker is so crisp and clear!
AND it is very very fast and snappy! The camera is SO fast. I haven't shot any videos with it yet, but just a few pictures.
As for all my gripes, I reckon that there are some fixes for some of them. I am considering getting a galaxy nexus to see how it compares and then sell whichever one I don't like. I looked at a galaxy nexus today at the store, tho, and while it was a demo unit that keeps the screen on all the time, there was still bad bad burn in. Anyway, I hope that helps you out a bit.
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1. Sounds like some digging around on facebook/phone settings should change that, I can't see it being off by an hour with no fix..
2. Eh, yeah from up close you're right, this was a gripe from before the phone was even released. I guess I don't mind cause I use my phone more for business not multimedia..while it is slightly noticeable, its still a great screen. Some will notice/care more than others.
3. Havent had this happen personally but I have read other people experiencing the same thing. Since its a known issue I'm sure HTC will release a fix (or an XDA Rom cook)
4. Move files from .nomedia to a different (music) folder on your device.
4.5. Not uncommon for a phone to not support flac by default, search for flac in android market there's plenty of free and paid options to use.
5. That's the default android launcher, because you're running sense its a different app drawer. Download Apex launcher for an AOSP style launcher (you will loose Sense widgets, but it will seem more like Galaxy Nexus).
6. The notification you're getting is from Beats, its a little red B icon. Just letting you know its 'enhancing' your sound. Don't know if you can change this...
7. Yeah tons of crap on this thing..no choice but root. It's pretty easy, most time is spent downloading the files. Rest is a piece of cake. (Note you will have to factory reset to unlock bootloader from HTC, so you will loose everything. Make sure you backup first if you do this).
8. Root, install Noble Rom or mod in development forum to remove dots.
Overall there are fixes and workarounds for most of it, or atleast will be soon. If you like the nexus flash an AOSP Rom and stick with the HTC metal build IMO, unless the screen is that big of a deal, then Nexus.
Good luck, let me know if I helped at all
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my biggest gripe is that it is terrible at multitasking. Often times I will be doing simple tasks like browsing the web and I will press the home button and the phone has to reload the home screens. It is very annoying. The phone is pretty snappy but my old Samsung vibrant never had such problems with multitasking. I think it must be sence being so heavy.
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joshnichols189 said:
My Ville is just fine but some people have issues with theirs.
You get 2GB for apps and about 10GB for your "SD card". It's really not a huge deal. I use Spotify and Google Music so I don't have to keep much on the phone anyways.
Sounds just fine by the way.
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Decided not to go with One S. 10gb is too low, since my offline gps software eats almost 4gb leaving only 6gb for me. I'll stick with sgs2 and wait for next best thing..Thanks guys..
BTW all the other issue if any, seems to be on software side which would be fixed already with custom roms or may be fixed soon..HTC has done a good job this time..but too bad they had to leave out SD card and only give 10gb of usable space on phone. If they are claiming 16gb they should have alteast made sure that user has access to 15gb of space especially when there is no option to expand
technically it is 16gb.. 1.7 gb for the ROM, 2.5gb for the apps, 10.5gb left for the user..
however i do think it was a sneaky decision, It should be 16gb left AFTER the space for ROM and apps.
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technically it is 16gb.. 1.7 gb for the ROM, 2.5gb for the apps, 10.5gb left for the user..
however i do think it was a sneaky decision, It should be 16gb left AFTER the space for ROM and apps.
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Every company does this. It isn't HTC specifically.
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I've had mine almost a week now and only had a few small issues.
1: Swype, which has already been mentioned
2: Pandora isn't working for me. It will play a song, start the next song and about 5 seconds in it skips on its on. Plays the next song completely then repeats. I have an email into the dev on it. (If anyone else has had this issue or knows whats causing it, I would be eternally grateful, im an addict)
3: Google music locked my phone up for about 5 minutes the other day while listening in my car.
4: Misc apps not being supported yet (but its to be expected on a newer version of the software)
My only other issue is that I'm just not a huge fan of sense, but atleast 4.0 is tolerable for now until an official release of cyanogen comes out.
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4. Move files from .nomedia to a different (music) folder on your device.
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That would be a bad workaround IMHO. For a start, there is no folder named .nomedia - there are many multiples of folders where Google Music store the files, and each one will have a .nomedia file in there. Plus, moving the files out would possibly make Google Music re-download the offline files etc. Causing duplication of space used and the need to repeat the process in its entirety if you wanted to pull more files down.
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Phone is great, ive had a couple of random reboots and twice where it says its preparing sim!?
overall fantastic phone, some moan about the screen its not up to the one x screen but its far better than the sensation screen with the mods they have done, battery life has been a major bonus for me easily get a full day from it. As other say its very snappy, my friend has a one x and on most things weve tested in real use terms there is no obvious difference in performance.
Best phone i've had bar none.
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As an iPhone user, I want to know why the people in this community prefer Android, what makes Andorid phones “Smart” to you.
I know customization is a big one for most people, it used to be my number one as well. I used WinMo since the 2003 edition, then the HTC Hero. However slowed I became tired of it, and I realized customization is a pretty big waste of time. At the end of the day, having the option for a customized user experience doesn’t mean it’s a better experience. Power hungry news widgets, youtube widgets, facebook widgets are quite gimmicky and almost useless. The only things useful were the quick settings.
This is just my opinion on the customization argument. Don’t hate.
For me, features that makes life easier makes phones smart, and iPhone has a number of them that gets used all the time:
Wireless sync without hassle (plug in the power, no button pushing at all)
Air Play, wirelessly play music on my speakers (I have yet to get a apple TV, but able to wirelessly stream video would be pretty cool too)
iPod with music controls on the Lock Screen, and also multi-tasking bar. These little things really makes the overall experience top notch.
Facetime/iMessage – I love native apps, so fast, easy, reliable.
I want to make a switch to Android because I want a larger screen (G NOTE!), but I don’t know enough about the OS to overcome the pros of iPhone.
What features/apps do you use all the time that are great and exclusive to Android?
So far im thinking:
Better Gmap, youtube, actual folders, screen size, independence from computer. What else?
All I can say is wow, I have an iphone 4, ipad 2, galazy tab 10.1 and galaxy s2. Everything you mentioned can be done on andriod with the exception of itunes crap, lets not forget that half the stuff you mentioned were actually on andriod a long time ago.( Apple always announces producta as new but in reality their just really stating they can now do it. Just google specific app types for what you have listed and you will find them easily.
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your choice s is right..Andorid is a good platform ..
You don't like customisation? you probrobly still won't like android. None of the features you mentioned are impressive they are availible to android phones in one form or another. WHat makes android smart is its ability to be how you want it. If you like being told how to use your phone and what to do with it, stick with apple, or try wp7. If you want your phone to keep suprising you go for an android handset. Some apps you may need to set up once. That goes for any phone.
I have chosen android because of the great community of developers and the possibility to use customroms.
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All I can say is wow, I have an iphone 4, ipad 2, galazy tab 10.1 and galaxy s2. Everything you mentioned can be done on andriod with the exception of itunes crap, lets not forget that half the stuff you mentioned were actually on andriod a long time ago.( Apple always announces producta as new but in reality their just really stating they can now do it. Just google specific app types for what you have listed and you will find them easily.
I'm careful about posting at night, but:
Cm nightly 263
Tmobile g2
300 dollars on ebay 6 months after it dropped
183 apps
Paid for 2:
Geocaching app
ICS blue theme
Pandora no ads
Unlimited skips
Plugged into 18 dollar cigarette lighter mp3 player in expedition with 9 speaker surround sound
Full keyboard
Etc etc
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Even if you need some apps that aren't stock from the market, Android is a better experience. With some tweaks (legally, opositive as Jailbreak), like ROOT and unlock bootloader, you have everything you need and don't need in no time.
Android is the way you want it. I used a little of his iPhone and entered on the App Store. That thing don't have NOTHING. No substitute music app, video app. And the things I saw have 2.5 of 5 in ''points'' (sorry, coudn't find the correct word), and in Android Market most of apps have 4.0 or more.
The thing I want to say is, with Apple, in my opinion, you pay for things you won't have. Processors are from Samsung, camera sensors are from Sony, desing is horrible, in my opinion, compared to Xperia Arc.
But all of this is my opinion.
Sorry for english, btw
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I would say large number of wrapper classes
bennyx8903 said:
For me, features that makes life easier makes phones smart, and iPhone has a number of them that gets used all the time:
Wireless sync without hassle (plug in the power, no button pushing at all)
Air Play, wirelessly play music on my speakers (I have yet to get a apple TV, but able to wirelessly stream video would be pretty cool too)
iPod with music controls on the Lock Screen, and also multi-tasking bar. These little things really makes the overall experience top notch.
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well, actually all the things you mention there are on Android; in fact they were already on it long before the iPhone could do it.
music control on lock screen - Android has had it for a long time, I think since first release. in fact, there are several music player apps that are able to set their own controls to the lock screen, Player Pro is one of the most popular. I prefer btunes though, which you might like because it's basically an exact copy of the iOS player with some enhancements that I was really craving back when I had my iPod.
speaking of, Android's stock music player app is pretty good, although a fave feature of mine is the ability to download alternate ones if you wish, many of which have a wealth of feature the iOS app really out to have by now. as for your music itself....
wireless sync - Android could do this before iOS. in fact, it could wirelessly sync with itunes months (maybe over year or more) before Apple even announced the feature for iOS, which only a month ago received the feature. just use Doubletwist, or iSyncr wifi, (both allow it over wifi or USB). for a good long time now, these apps and others have allowed this. i prefer iSyncr, as it allows you to sync only the checked songs in Itunes. USB can be configured to sync automatically at plug in, and the wifi add on allows it to be set to auto sync at certain times of day, on the hours, every four hours, every 8 hours or manually. it also lets you auto sync and upload new music, photos and videos, default to your iTunes folder but you can set it to send the anywhere else on your computer that you like. best of all, the USB version can sync with any Mac or PC running iTunes without installing ANY programs on said computers, and the wifi version only needs a very small counterpart program installed on it, which is free and can be loaded to your phone's own sd card for easy installation if you don't have a connection on the comp at the time. configuration is easy, but only takes once, and anyway both versions come with common, good options preset if you wish.
Also, Doubletwist does Airplay on android, as do several other apps, although I can't say much about them because I never really got into local vid streaming. I'm told they work great though.
there's also more options for buying music on Android, as we have Amazon MP3 and now google music to download directly to the device or through your computer, and of course, iTunes through your comp if you wish.
as for multitasking bar, well Android had that too, you hold the home button and it shows a list of recent apps. there's lots of additional third party options for this too, like alternate home screen launchers and such that allow scrollable docks.
I know you said you don't like widgets, but of course you don't have to use them. there are several widgets that also add multitasking capabilities too, like circle launcher and some folder-type organizers.
God I write too much. anyway, check out some of the apps I mentioned on the Market website.
https://market.android.com/
The ability to do basically anything on it, customized it so it fits your needs, and being unique from other devices.
And you can change to a thrid party keyboard instead of using the stock keyboard.
OK which i have SwiftKey X.
In some words, iOS does not have everything Android has but Android likely has everything iOS has and more than that.
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In some words, iOS does not have everything Android has but Android likely has everything iOS has and more than that.
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That's a good way to put it, yes. In fact, Android users got quite a kick out of the iOS 5 unveiling a few months ago; it was widely noted that of all the "new" features unveiled, every single one of them was actually stolen directly from the Android OS, or one of it's popular exclusive apps, except for iMessaging, which came from BlackBerry.
It really angered a lot of people actually, because Apple even copied the pull down notification menu, renamed it the notification "center" and still proceeded to sue every Android dvice manufacturer it can, claiming they infringe on things like scrolling, anything with a touchscreen, rounded corners, black borders, etc.
I think the real question. Is why not android? Not much you can't do with these devices.
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I had a Droid, sold it and went to iPhone. There are some features I prefer on iOS compared to android. Syncing to iTunes for one. When I was on my Droid, doubletwist was in its infancy and didn't work all the time. If it does now, that's a big plus.
My iPhone plugs directly into my car stereo via usb, so it charges and plays at the same time. Not sure if something like that is possible on android, but it wasn't at the time to my knowledge.
I prefer the music app on the iPhone and the way it manages everything. Again, that has likely improved.
I recently got another android device in my Nook Tablet. It's gotten me back into wanting to find my way around hacking android. Now if there was an app compatible with FaceTime, and a game I play was ported over, I'd switch back to android when my next upgrade came around.
I also have a lot of audiobooks in m4b format that I don't want to reconvert, not sure if there is an Android player that will play them. That would be an important factor in switching to android.
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I'm glad you can do that on that small screen, also can you send me a file by Bluetooth ?
I choose Android not only because of customization, but because Apple is so ANTI-customization. They shove their consumers in a box and expect them to stay there. If anything's changed, they face bricking/fines/etc. Apple doesn't condone freedom. Apple screws innovators. Therefore, I say screw Apple.
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Now, I'm not exactly shooting you down, but rather mentioning that these are available on Android;
For me, features that makes life easier makes phones smart, and iPhone has a number of them that gets used all the time:
Wireless sync without hassle (plug in the power, no button pushing at all)
DoubleTwist + AirSync.
Air Play, wirelessly play music on my speakers (I have yet to get a apple TV, but able to wirelessly stream video would be pretty cool too)
I've seen this several times; HTC devices have it built in and several Market apps do it.
iPod with music controls on the Lock Screen, and also multi-tasking bar. These little things really makes the overall experience top notch.
Every single lockscreen in the world has Music controls, and Android has recent apps (which are greatly revamped in ICS)
Facetime/iMessage – I love native apps, so fast, easy, reliable.
Google Talk, built in app.
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Had to do some things there. On a side note, I respect you for coming to a site filled with hardcore Android fans and talk about the iPhone.
bennyx8903 said:
As an iPhone user, I want to know why the people in this community prefer Android, what makes Andorid phones “Smart” to you.
I know customization is a big one for most people, it used to be my number one as well. I used WinMo since the 2003 edition, then the HTC Hero. However slowed I became tired of it, and I realized customization is a pretty big waste of time. At the end of the day, having the option for a customized user experience doesn’t mean it’s a better experience. Power hungry news widgets, youtube widgets, facebook widgets are quite gimmicky and almost useless. The only things useful were the quick settings.
This is just my opinion on the customization argument. Don’t hate.
For me, features that makes life easier makes phones smart, and iPhone has a number of them that gets used all the time:
Wireless sync without hassle (plug in the power, no button pushing at all)
Air Play, wirelessly play music on my speakers (I have yet to get a apple TV, but able to wirelessly stream video would be pretty cool too)
iPod with music controls on the Lock Screen, and also multi-tasking bar. These little things really makes the overall experience top notch.
Facetime/iMessage – I love native apps, so fast, easy, reliable.
I want to make a switch to Android because I want a larger screen (G NOTE!), but I don’t know enough about the OS to overcome the pros of iPhone.
What features/apps do you use all the time that are great and exclusive to Android?
So far im thinking:
Better Gmap, youtube, actual folders, screen size, independence from computer. What else?
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Android has wireless sync...its not just a iPhone feature as the iPhone 4 and 4S are both minor fails. Atennagate and iOS 5 battery problems.
I'm thinking of going to WP7. An Android app exclusive is PewPew. I haven't seen that in iTunes.
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Android is open source OS, many developers can come up with Custom ROM and kernel that is better in terms of performance other than that, i like how it sync with my google mail, contact and calendar.
Hi,
Yesterday I updated my phone with the official android 4.0 update. Some things work faster, for the most part things seem to have taken a turn for the worse. Never mind that all the menu's now show way more information than you need, more importantly it seems htc broke the mail and music player app.
The mail app seems to revert push mail settings to every 15 minutes by itself and also reset the amount of days of email it should download back to 3 days. Basically the mail app became a useless piece of crap. No more push mail and no more having all your emails. Way to go HTC.
The geniuses at HTC also decided that it'd be nice to **** up the music player. It used to work perfectly fine. Easy and fast to navigate with just your thumb and playing music worked like a charm.
Not anymore. Switching between artist, albums etc is a horror now. Drop down menu **** instead of just a bar at the bottom of your screen. Worst of all is that music playback isn't smooth anymore. Try to skip more than 2 songs by swiping the screen fast and **** hits the fan. Also instead of playing music until you stop at a song you want music now stops playing right away and gives a 'pop' every time a new song starts.
Basically we now got a bit faster home screen scrolling. All other things got ****ed up. Way to go HTC. How about maybe bothering doing some quality checks next time?
Hi,
I was also annoyed about the Mail-app in ICS. At first I downgraded and wanted to wait until the official release was there. However, the official release didn't fix this issue, so I ended up searching for a fix for a very long time.
After all, I installed Aqua-Mail from the Market - it's free and you can set up IMAP-Push - it's working great without any issues.
Concerning the music player I'm using Real-Player - just give it a try!
Best regards
Manuel
Wait, what? the bug was there in leaked versions and the ****ers didn't even bother to fix it?? How can you possibly release a broken email application? The mind boggels... Do you happen to know if they fixed it with sense 4.0? I'm thinking about rooting as soon as there is a way of rooting Hboot 1.27 and than upgrading to 4.0.
Thanks for the pointer about aquamail but I can't find it in the market for my device. Seems the dev didn't roll it out in my country yet.
I really wonder what the whole deal about ICS is. For me, it only made things worse. There is a very small gain in smoothness but you get broken basic applications and the whole messed up ICS menu option overkill.
sjaak1234 said:
Wait, what? the bug was there in leaked versions and the ****ers didn't even bother to fix it?? How can you possibly release a broken email application? The mind boggels... Do you happen to know if they fixed it with sense 4.0?
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My thoughts exactly.
I tried Sense 4.0 today and it seems fixed in that.
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Hi,
Yesterday I updated my phone with the official android 4.0 update. Some things work faster, for the most part things seem to have taken a turn for the worse. Never mind that all the menu's now show way more information than you need, more importantly it seems htc broke the mail and music player app.
The mail app seems to revert push mail settings to every 15 minutes by itself and also reset the amount of days of email it should download back to 3 days. Basically the mail app became a useless piece of crap. No more push mail and no more having all your emails. Way to go HTC.
The geniuses at HTC also decided that it'd be nice to **** up the music player. It used to work perfectly fine. Easy and fast to navigate with just your thumb and playing music worked like a charm.
Not anymore. Switching between artist, albums etc is a horror now. Drop down menu **** instead of just a bar at the bottom of your screen. Worst of all is that music playback isn't smooth anymore. Try to skip more than 2 songs by swiping the screen fast and **** hits the fan. Also instead of playing music until you stop at a song you want music now stops playing right away and gives a 'pop' every time a new song starts.
Basically we now got a bit faster home screen scrolling. All other things got ****ed up. Way to go HTC. How about maybe bothering doing some quality checks next time?
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The Music application issue is not with my phone, but the Mail app thing is. It's very annoying since I like to get my e-mails via Push Mail. I've been using the built-in Gmail app more and more because of it. Hope they either issue an update to fix the Mail thing or give us Sense 4.0--- though I suppose that would be too demanding since a lot of people with EVO3Ds and such are already complaining about Sensation and Sensation XE users getting the ICS + Sense 3.6 update first.
But seriously. I use the Mail app a lot. A whole lot. I hope they fix it.
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My thoughts exactly.
I tried Sense 4.0 today and it seems fixed in that.
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What in the world did HTC do to Android ICS mulitasking!? Apps seem to be completely removed from cache every single time they're closed for ~30 seconds. They also no longer re-open in the same state that you left them! If I leave the browser, it needs to reload the web page. If I leave a game, I need to start from the beginning. If I pause and exit Slacker radio for a minute, the app closes and I can't even resume my music with the headphones button! I need to re-open the app and start playing all over again.
With my old Galaxy Nexus I never had ANY of these issues and multitasking was clearly the best of any smartphone on the market. HTC has completely crippled this device and it's becoming more and more frustrating (push email notifications & sms notifications are a whole other mess). It seems HTC has created Sense to focus more on preserving battery than focusing on creating a good user experience. The first few days with the phone were great but as more and more of these "instances" pop up, this phone is beginning to seem less and less powerful and intuitive.
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What in the world did HTC do to Android ICS mulitasking!? Apps seem to be completely removed from cache every single time they're closed for ~30 seconds. They also no longer re-open in the same state that you left them! If I leave the browser, it needs to reload the web page. If I leave a game, I need to start from the beginning. If I pause and exit Slacker radio for a minute, the app closes and I can't even resume my music with the headphones button! I need to re-open the app and start playing all over again.
With my old Galaxy Nexus I never had ANY of these issues and multitasking was clearly the best of any smartphone on the market. HTC has completely crippled this device and it's becoming more and more frustrating (push email notifications & sms notifications are a whole other mess). It seems HTC has created Sense to focus more on preserving battery than focusing on creating a good user experience. The first few days with the phone were great but as more and more of these "instances" pop up, this phone is beginning to seem less and less powerful and intuitive.
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I agree, they're using very aggressive memory management.
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I agree, they're using very aggressive memory management.
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So much so that multitasking seemed significantly more advanced on my iPhone 4S. This is supposed to be Android's strong suit!
Ya its not even like saved state. Its just a new icon for your previously opened apps.
This is one area where I wish I still had my gnex. HOwever everything else is better on this phone.
With root available, you can probably tweak this a bit with the likes of auto killer, or a similar min free tweaking app.
Music works fine, hell it even remember my last song and position played after a reboot, using htc music.
I made two videos of the problem:
If I just tried to copy and paste these links and make this post on my one x it would have never worked, would have kept reloading the page and forget everything I typed. Lol.
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Music works fine, hell it even remember my last song and position played after a reboot, using htc music.
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HTC Music is an HTC developed app so it's possible they tweaked their own app to work well. I listen to most of my music online and prefer Slacker radio which has been nothing short of a disaster with this device b/c of the multitasking issues.
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Music works fine, hell it even remember my last song and position played after a reboot, using htc music.
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Does streaming google music play(app) work in the background ( while using navigation or a browser ) ?
With auto killer, i just tested, and i can keep 3 apps running in the memory. Try it out.
edit* scratch that, i tryed after a few minutes of inactivity, reloads.
I believe the reason they are using such aggressive memory management is because on the One X International Version Sense would constantly crash and you would see the "loading" screen.
Frankly I dont know which is more annoying...
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Does the music play in the background ( while using navigation or a browser ) ?
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Music works in the background for me while it's playing (even Slacker). But if I pause the music for a minute to go do something, it's impossible for me to begin playing from where I left off and I have to re-open the app and start playing a song from the beginning. It's very annoying.
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I believe the reason they are using such aggressive memory management is because on the One X International Version Sense would constantly crash and you would see the "loading" screen.
Frankly I dont know which is more annoying...
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Oh it still does that also, but it isn't a crash, it happens when you go back to the home screen, you just see "loading"
I am just hoping the phone is still fast and has good battery life once/if this is fixed.
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I made two videos of the problem:
If I just tried to copy and paste these links and make this post on my one x it would have never worked, would have kept reloading the page and forget everything I typed. Lol.
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Thank you for portraying what I mean...but your issue is even WORSE than mine. If I switch back to an app THAT quickly it won't reload like that. For me, it has to be around 30 seconds.
Lets hope we get root soon. I'm sure some custom roms will cure this issue
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Lets hope we get root soon. I'm sure some custom roms will cure this issue
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Root is already possible since yesterday. Custom ROM is not possible until we get bootloader unlocked.
i'm guessing that's why my simiclock doesn't update after i don't touch my phone for a long period of time (overnight)
In the developer settings, there is an option to set the limit of background processes. The default is set to "standard limit." Does anyone know what this limit is, or if changing it to 4 processes might actually help?
Edit: just tried and it clearly does not help.
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Try going to settings developer opinions and look under apps and make sure those settings are to your liking. It has a setting for turning off apps right away and how many apps can run in the background.
Edit: I keep on going in and out of apps trying this but unless I'm out for like 5 min its not making me start over Pandora. Try clicking and unclicking apps close right away.
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The issue definitely needs addressing, and I'm sure it's not a "what was HTC thinking" situation so much as a bug that they'll fix.
I've noticed the issue myself, but it hasn't annoyed me to the point of complaining. Maybe it's better on my phone. It'll almost certainly depend on what background services you have running. By that, I mean GMail, Email, Twitter/Facebook updates, playing music. Also, some apps seem to handle multitasking pretty well. NFS Hot Pursuit was obviously coded to accommodate Android multitasking, as I can quit it, check my email/twitter, maybe browse a website, and when I go back to NFS, it's on the pause screen and I can pick up the race where I left off.
Different processes receive different priorities as far as Android memory management go. If you're playing music (in HTC Music, Play Music, PowerAmp, etc,) then Android recognizes that this app is actively doing something, even if you consecutively load up every other app on your phone. You can go back to the music app and it won't have to reload anything. That's just an example. Other apps can do this too, as long as the programmers coded it right. I'm guessing NFS Hot Pursuit does this as I've never had a problem with it.
Of course, none of that excuses the poor multitasking, since the gnex seems much better at it. (And I'm assuming you people who have tried both have been running virtually identical apps on each phone.)
I don't know a ton about memory management and multitasking in Android, so I could only speculate as to where the problem really lies. Could be that Sense takes up too much memory (surprise surprise!), could be that HTC made the memory management too agressive, could be weird other things that I don't even know about, such as some sort of time-out for background apps.
I'm going to do some playing around and let you know if I can find any ways to improve it easily.
Hi all,
I'm writing this because I really don't understand what's is the point with Apollo.
It seems that the developer was copying things from Play Music and trying to make an app from scratch.
But, it totally lacks features and doesn't address any previous shorcomings:
No Various Artists grouping
No Replay Gain
No settings at all
No album arts stored in the files/folders
Albums downloaded are bad resolution and not able to change them
Not so smooth interface
No folder selection to play music from
Unstable (Sometimes it just stopped playing)
Seems somewhat heavier that Play Music
And on top of this.. it is integrated in CM9 and with version 1.00. Then, voodoo sound doesn't get integrated. Not only that, but there is a plan to charge for "premium" features, like what? Change the album art or pick it from the files itself??
I'm happy with CM9 as they are adding features and addressing issues, but this Apollo is annoying.
Really.. Am I missing something?
I don't know, I think that Play Music is so much better than this one.
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Hi all
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Really.. Am I missing something?
I don't know, I think that Play Music is so much better than this one.
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You're missing the fact that Apollo is still a work in progress.
I'm using Apollo over PowerAmp Pro because the DSPManager from CM9 is incompatible with the latter (in my case, at least).
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I think the biggest problem with Apollo (and all other 3rd party music apps) is that it isn't able to integrate with my Play Music library. This is of course a failure on Google's part for not providing an official API.
I've been moving toward uploading more and more of my library to Play Music so that I don't have to carry so much around on my external SD card, opening up more space for storing videos, pictures, etc. Eventually Apollo isn't going to have much to work with...
Well, not everyone has unlimited data plans and not all areas have good coverage. Also, I like to keep my data locally (at least important or large stuff).
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Well, not everyone has unlimited data plans and not all areas have good coverage. Also, I like to keep my data locally (at least important or large stuff).
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I understand that. I certainly don't have an unlimited plan or the greatest coverage 24/7 either. But you can sync stuff from your Play Music library to your phone while on WiFi for offline playing, so you can kind of have it both ways.
And I guess that means you could potentially sync your Google music and then play it through Apollo. (Assuming Google syncs them as normal mp3 files and not some weird encrypted DRM format.) But it's still annoying to need multiple apps installed.
4. No album arts stored in the files/folders
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Yep, that's retarded. I love the artist photo dowload, but why not use the album art that is already there (either inside the MP3 or in the folder) instead of downloading a craptastic low res image? I hope that's not supposed to be a future premium feature (I can only think it will, since using a local picture seems easier to implement than downloading it).
Also, no AlbumArtist/Band support, it seems. I have compilations and OSTs and they appear spread in the Artist tab, instead of appearing once under "Various" or "<Name of the film>"
I was removing Music.apk and replacing it with PlayMusic.apk before flashing. Will do the same with Apollo.apk for now.
(edit) Reading the author's google+ comments:
Settings are supposed to be that way. You don't need as many as you did in previous versions, but I will be including more in the Play Store version. One of which is a different way to set album art and such
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it seems local album art will be reserved for paying users, although most people there are asking for this feature. Goodbye Apollo, then; going back to Google player.
Yes, I was using apk replacement a while ago. I really wanted to download flash but I guess I will have to use PC, edit and then flash.
What I would really like to know is how difficult is to implement Replay Gain that is around for a while.
I can't stand how Apollo won't use the album art that comes with the songs. If it already has album art it'll still show the "Apollo - Illuminate Your Music" art since it can't find it online...even though I already have it.
It's stressing. And the art it does find is so grainy and low quality.
My biggest gripe is that Apollo doesn't use the equalizer. I just flash the old original cm9 music whenever a new build comes out. Even though it's kind of cpu heavy.
I simply can't understand why such an app can make it's way to cyanogenmod...
It has no settings at all, you aren't asked if you want to download covers or use those in the music files, the app simply starts downloading.
This is not the way a cyanogenmod app should be or behave!
I tried the January version of Apollo... well there are the missing settings but the rest of the old version is really slow and often not responding.
So I switched back to the old cm9 music app.. it is a nice feature of ICS that you can deactivate system apps ;-)
i expected it to be on the market by now
I guess one can freeze the app and use something else but I liked it for what it offers. It still seems there is much work to do. It works with DSP. That is nice. Downloads artist pics, but when you click on them, you get a FB's timeline type, rectangular frame where you can't really see the pic. Add some settings, and include a dark theme, don't let us download it.
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I simply can't understand why such an app can make it's way to cyanogenmod...
It has no settings at all, you aren't asked if you want to download covers or use those in the music files, the app simply starts downloading.
This is not the way a cyanogenmod app should be or behave!
I tried the January version of Apollo... well there are the missing settings but the rest of the old version is really slow and often not responding.
So I switched back to the old cm9 music app.. it is a nice feature of ICS that you can deactivate system apps ;-)
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Same feeling here, rest of CM is working really nice. Also battery is nice, I can get 1 day with normal usage.
It's in the market from today, 5.31. Description is lacking imo. Cost: 4.64. No free version listed in developer's other app section. Weird thing:i downloaded app from web and market showed as the app already installed. If true that it's the exact same app as the 5.21 release, it's definitely not worth the price at this point. Imo. Also, imo, based on developer's track record, I'm not sure how quick updates will be.
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It's in the market from today, 5.31. Description is lacking imo. Cost: 4.64. No free version listed in developer's other app section. Weird thing:i downloaded app from web and market showed as the app already installed. If true that it's the exact same app as the 5.21 release, it's definitely not worth the price at this point. Imo. Also, imo, based on developer's track record, I'm not sure how quick updates will be.
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The dev said it would be 2.3+ compatible. Could you send me the link to the app on Play Store? I can't find it
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Hi,i think someone might've been trying to steal the dev's work. Was wondering this after my first post as there was no communication from Dev's site today. i can't find the app in the market now either. maybe Google took it down.someone did link to it on dev's g+ page in the comments section today. But someone there also suggested the app was probably not official. Sorry for the confusion. I'm just as curious as the next person to see what the official app looks like, hence my 1st post.
Edit: just checked link on Dev's g+ page and link still is live. The app in the mkt is listed under the developer name: living water. another issue is the mkt icon is not the Dev's official icon which should've been a red flag for me. sorry again.
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I cant seem to find it in the market
Anyone have news about the Market version? He said almost 2 weeks ago that it would be on Play Store in a couple of days, and nothing until now...
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i don't know how long the play store upload process takes but for some reason this taking so long doesn't surprise me; might be awhile longer (but i hope not). If u catch comments in Dev's g+ page, he has been absent since like the day he posted on 5.21. Some communication might be good from him
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Where can I submit a request for the app?
One feature that I would really love is being able to listen to music by folder. It seems to have everything else but this. EG Artist, album, genre, etc.
I store my workout music in a workout folder and I would like to be able to just select that.
I know I could create a playlist for each folder but then I need to update it all the time.
PLEASE ADD FOLDER PLAY OPTION.
Hi, i'm coming from 2 years of htc desire HD, I'm interested to buy a new phone, i was wainting for htc m7, but 8x is really beautifull, but i'm a little scared about wp8 give me good reasons to don't be scared and to buy 8x.
Its a smooth phone. Me and my wife wasted our upgrades on a pair of 8x. Missing a lot of basic functions and apps, which I could deal with, but then stopped receiving texts, missing calls and random rebooting. I'm now back to my Inc 2 until I can afford to buy a used phone. Very bitter about the whole deal
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Reasons to want a 8x
1. Its a beautiful phone.
2. Very well made.
3. Screen is awesome.
4. Camera is up there with the 920, in my opinion.
5. WP8 is a great OS. Very fluid and just works.
6. iOS and Android users always moan about the Apps, I have been with WP since the beginning and have never had any problems. Some of the big names may be missing but the alternatives on WP are in my opinion better. I believe its quality over quantity.
7. Many moan about the live tiles being distracting. If they actually use a WP they would know that these tiles stop animating after two minutes of non use so not distracting at all.
Hope these small points help in your decision.
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Reasons to want a 8x
1. Its a beautiful phone.
2. Very well made.
3. Screen is awesome.
4. Camera is up there with the 920, in my opinion.
5. WP8 is a great OS. Very fluid and just works.
6. iOS and Android users always moan about the Apps, I have been with WP since the beginning and have never had any problems. Some of the big names may be missing but the alternatives on WP are in my opinion better. I believe its quality over quantity.
7. Many moan about the live tiles being distracting. If they actually use a WP they would know that these tiles stop animating after two minutes of non use so not distracting at all.
Hope these small points help in your decision.
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Thanks, I know, it have a beautiful design, i'm afreid about the apps, and the personalization, i have the flash maniac syndrome , but, i'm considering it, because, i'll usually don't play games on phone, my use is, send sms some calls, music (very important) photo, and when bored going to Facbook,
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Its a smooth phone. Me and my wife wasted our upgrades on a pair of 8x. Missing a lot of basic functions and apps, which I could deal with, but then stopped receiving texts, missing calls and random rebooting. I'm now back to my Inc 2 until I can afford to buy a used phone. Very bitter about the whole deal
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Maybe is better if you sell it, to recover some money.
Ease of use. Fluid system, reduced dependence.on apps, elegant design, OS quality (texts, emails, cloud integration) Xbox connectivity.
Now, flashing my old android several times, I was worried about that as well. But this phone, I honestly don't want to flash!
I was also worried about the lack of customization, but these live tiles and just the whole set up just seems to work!
There are some apps that you may miss, but outside of Alarm Clock Extreme, I have found I don't miss anything, or.found I don't ned it after all.
Easiest for me to say is that this phone just works, really well.
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Ease of use. Fluid system, reduced dependence.on apps, elegant design, OS quality (texts, emails, cloud integration) Xbox connectivity.
Now, flashing my old android several times, I was worried about that as well. But this phone, I honestly don't want to flash!
I was also worried about the lack of customization, but these live tiles and just the whole set up just seems to work!
There are some apps that you may miss, but outside of Alarm Clock Extreme, I have found I don't miss anything, or.found I don't ned it after all.
Easiest for me to say is that this phone just works, really well.
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Thanks.
To all: can someone here on the forum give me a link to a international online shop where to found a 8x at best price?
Can't help here. I paid 33 for mine, but that's with a new 2 year contract. I'm sure someone can help here.
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I've been a long user of HTC ever since android. Before I loved the SE phones (in the time each phone came with its own OS)
It depends what you want to do with this phone, yet I found ALOT of problems with it and reverted to my old phone even though I like the phone physically less. (HTC Desire HD)
PRO:
* Very nice design, feels just right and light
* Pretty interface
* High quality
* Top notch technology
CONS:
* Connectivity is bad - all applications are "loading... loading..." you'll find yourself waiting alot (no issue with Wifi or 3G)
* Screens are often out of sync and reload...
* No USB drive (this means, you can't plug the phone in your car to listen to music)
* No decent navigation software
* The music application is confusing - where do you "play all" ?
* All screens sortof look the same - it might be a pro as all your social networks are seemlessly put together - yet it gets boring as all looks the same. It's not an engaging experience.
* No Sender or caller block
* No sync SMS/MMS with gmail
* No "Save MMS"
* Gmail application is rediculiously slow in incomplete
* The "cloud" and sync options seem scattered. There hasn't been a clear place where I could understand what is synced and how
* How much I would love to use the NFC - yet the software is a bunch of scatterbrainedness
* No settings button
* Personalisation is limited to changing the base color - which is from a picklist (not a colorwheel)
* Typing takes more effort as typing on the HTC Desire HD (more spelling mistakes - less well touch-prediction)
I really love how the phone feels in the hand and the design - I'm in love with it. But the software has been so annoying and breaking my flow I'm back to my old phone and selling (or hoping for improvements) this one.
Just thought I'd add my comments. I've been an Android fan for many years, but I really don't regret my choice of switching to the 8X.
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* Connectivity is bad - all applications are "loading... loading..." you'll find yourself waiting alot (no issue with Wifi or 3G)
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Never had that problem myself. On 4G+ and Wifi.
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* No USB drive (this means, you can't plug the phone in your car to listen to music)
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Neither does the iPhone, the Android, and most major phones. They're all MTP now.
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* No decent navigation software
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Nokia Drive.
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* The music application is confusing - where do you "play all" ?
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When you launch the Music app, at the bottom, there's a play button. That plays all of your music.
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* All screens sortof look the same - it might be a pro as all your social networks are seemlessly put together - yet it gets boring as all looks the same. It's not an engaging experience.
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It is the Metro look. I much prefer that everything looks the same than every app you download has it's own look. Just look at Android, a lot of apps doesn't really look good, weird icons, colors, etc.
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* No Sender or caller block
* No sync SMS/MMS with gmail
* No "Save MMS"
* Gmail application is rediculiously slow in incomplete
* The "cloud" and sync options seem scattered. There hasn't been a clear place where I could understand what is synced and how
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I do agree that most of the cloud syncing is a bit weird and incomplete. The problem is that Google needs to realize that there's a potential on WP8 and develop apps for it.
Personally, overall, I love that phone. It's, without a doubt, the fastest phone I've ever used. Even if the specs are slower than a lot of high-end phones out there, the software is just so much faster.
At the and i bought it, it' ok, but wp8 is missing a lot of things, one of that when i go to music, there's no way to find a single song by typing the name of it, really?
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At the and i bought it, it' ok, but wp8 is missing a lot of things, one of that when i go to music, there's no way to find a single song by typing the name of it, really?
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yes, there are some basic elements missing, however, if you tap on the little squares at the top of each section, it brings up a way to quickly go to a section alphabetically. Hope that helps.
And don't give up on the phone whenever you have a problem, ask and there are a lot of people who can help you out!
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To find a single song.
1. Go into media
2. Select music.
3. Swipe right to songs.
4. Then just press letter of song name.
I know its not the quickest, but also not that hard.
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To find a single song.
1. Go into media
2. Select music.
3. Swipe right to songs.
4. Then just press letter of song name.
I know its not the quickest, but also not that hard.
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Not what i was searching for but is ok thanks not dlna in wp8? is there a possibility to have it soon? in next realese maybe
tempted to get an 8X as a potential replacement if/when my S3 suffers the SDS fate. the thing that ticks me off is the fact that the 8S has a micro SD slot and the 8X doesn't.
removable battery is not so bad but i do feel that 16gb isn't a whole lot for a phone nowadays....especially since my S3 has 16 + a 64gb sd card. i could live with 32gb if they every offered it.
EDIT : i have used WP 7.5 before in the past and i like the (formally known as "metro") UI and really like it because it was different to android and iOS at the time.