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I was helping someone get started with Google Voice in a thread, and thought a little tutorial might help people out, so I wrote one. I'd like input if you guys think I got something wrong, or left something out. I hope this can help someone.
The pdf has been updated as of 2/16/2010 with more info:
http://i0v.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Google-Voice-for-Noobs.pdf
But I figured some people might like plain text, so I'll paste it too.
I probably won't update the plain text here because it will just be getting longer and longer
(that is, unless someone requests it)
Google Voice for Noobs
Transitioning to Google Voice, on a Sprint HTC Hero
First Revision 2/14/10
What Is Google Voice?
First off, I think it helps to think of Google Voice like a switch box of some sort. You can feed telephone calls in and feed them back out, in whatever direction you’d like. The original intended functionality of GV was to allow you give people one number (your GV number) and then it would ring all of your phones when someone calls that number.
Now this might be helpful for some people, but I know the majority of people here probably don’t have more than one phone. But this setup can still be useful for people who want to use their Google Voice number as the number they give out to people. This setup is really the easiest, because once you’ve entered your cell phone in Google Voice under Settings > Phones, you’re pretty much done. The other advantage to this route is that you can have GV ask callers for their name before it rings your phone (call screening), and some other cool features. If you still want to use your Sprint phone number and just use GV for voicemail, see the next section.
Note: Now when you now first set up Google Voice, it asks if you want to set it up as strictly voicemail and then steps you through steps similar to the following section. It then gives you a more limited feature set for just the options that apply to when you’re using it as voicemail. If that’s all you want to do, then that might be the route to go. If at some point, you want to use a scenario similar to the one above Go to Settings >’Phones’ tab > Get a Google number (thanks to Jon at Hebb Networks for clarifying this)
Google Voice as Voicemail
(This is basically an explanation of what Google walks you through when you go to Settings > “Activate Google voicemail for this phone” on the GV website)
Note that sometime around November 2009, Sprint decided to make CONDITIONAL call forwarding free, so we’re going to configure it like this:
In this situation what you’ll do is dial *285555555555 (replace the 5’s with your GV number) and then press talk. You should hear some beeps to let you know everything is working alright. Then you can hang up. (To undo this feature dial *38)
Next, you want to let GV know that these calls that are being forwarded should go to voicemail. You can do this by going into your settings page in Google Voice on your computer, and clicking “Activate Google voicemail for this phone”
Another thing to note, is that there is a big difference between CONDITIONAL and UNCONDITIONAL call forwarding. CONDITIONAL forwards a call after some (you guessed it) conditions are met - i.e. Busy, or no answer. You can read more about CONDITIONAL call forwarding here: http://bit.ly/9KvT2L
On the other hand, UNCONDITIONAL call forwarding takes all calls to your sprint number, and forwards them ALL to a different number without ever ringing your cell phone. This is not typically an option that anyone would want to use, and Sprint still charges 20 cents/minute for every call that uses this. Read more here: http://bit.ly/apyfAs
Accessing Google Voice from your Hero
Now on your CDMA Hero, you’re definitely going to want to download the Google Voice app from the Market. This will currently do two functions.
1. Allow you to see and play all of your voicemail.
2. Route your outgoing calls back through Google Voice, if you want to. (This makes more sense, I think, if you’re giving out your Google Voice number to people, because then your calls will be all forwarded through GV, both incoming and outgoing. I don’t give out my GV number, so I have mine set to only make outgoing calls through GV for international calls.)
Another option is to call Google Voice from your cell phone, just like the old days with Sprint Voicemail. Be sure to go Settings > Call Settings > Voicemail and then type in your GV number. Then when you hold 1 from the dial pad, you’ll call GV and be able to access it that way too.
Yet another option is to just visit the Google Voice Mobile Page in the browser.
Notification Options
With a fresh setup of Google Voice Voicemail, you’ll probably quickly notice that you’ll bombarded with email and SMS notifications about a new message. You can turn these off, and if you’re using the Android app, you’ll probably want to. On the Google Voice site, visit Settings > Voicemail & SMS > Voicemail Notifications to turn these on or off.
I have one question about using GV. I have free mobile to mobile calling. When someone calls my GV number, which is then forwarded to my cell phone, is this still a mobile to mobile call, or will I be charged?
wjtrawick said:
I have one question about using GV. I have free mobile to mobile calling. When someone calls my GV number, which is then forwarded to my cell phone, is this still a mobile to mobile call, or will I be charged?
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I just did a reverse telephone lookup, and it lists my google voice number type as a landline. So, no, I don't believe it counts as a mobile number.
Edit: Just checked my Sprint bill. I've got Any Mobile, Anytime. It is charged as a land line.
(On a side note, we just switched to the free mobile to mobile a few months ago, damn I love it: "Your account used 9,346 minutes of Any Mobile, Anytime(sm) calling last month.")
According to GV surport forum. If somebody(cellphone) calls ur GV number and transfer to ur sprint number. It should be counted as Mobile to Mobile. However, if you called somebody else through ur GV number, it will be conted as you call a landline.
link is here.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/voice/thread?tid=75630cc990ea5c98&hl=en
laufine said:
According to GV surport forum. If somebody(cellphone) calls ur GV number and transfer to ur sprint number. It should be counted as Mobile to Mobile. However, if you called somebody else through ur GV number, it will be conted as you call a landline.
link is here.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/voice/thread?tid=75630cc990ea5c98&hl=en
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Yupp, thats how it is, I have the bills to prove it. Also, for the person calling you it counts as a landline call for them, so if they are on Sprint it is not using mobile2mobile.
If there was a way to convince google to have gvoice lines as mobile lines it would be set....to bad...
Interestingly, the Voice app for Android doesn't do push notifications of new VMs. I get my email notifications long before the Voice app picks the VMs up. (I think it's set to check every 5 minutes?)
Any ideas on that one?
Is_907 said:
Interestingly, the Voice app for Android doesn't do push notifications of new VMs. I get my email notifications long before the Voice app picks the VMs up. (I think it's set to check every 5 minutes?)
Any ideas on that one?
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I go to settings > refresh and notification > refresh inbox,, and there are options there for refresh rate. 5 minutes is the lowest setting. I heard somewhere that there is a 3rd party app that checks more frequently, but I haven't tried it. I wouldn't want to drain my battery with an interval shorter than 5 minutes. Maybe you'd be better off making a gmail label to sort the notifications if the delay is a problem.
I've just been setting GV to send me SMS notifications, and then when I have a VM, I just hit refresh, and look at it. I don't want it constantly refreshing because I hardly get VM's.
Is_907 said:
Interestingly, the Voice app for Android doesn't do push notifications of new VMs. I get my email notifications long before the Voice app picks the VMs up. (I think it's set to check every 5 minutes?)
Any ideas on that one?
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That's the one thing that keeps me from becoming a heavy Google Voice user. I read on the Google support forums that they're working on push notifications but they said it was difficult and didn't have an ETA.
I don't know how it would be more difficult than Gmail.
Hey, thanks a lot for this guide! I've had "setting up google voicemail" on my to-do list for a while now, and your easy to understand guide motivated me to get it set up. Thanks a lot!
Just wanted to add a little something (feel free to put it in your guide if you want, to avoid questions in the forum later) for people who are on Cricket Wireless...
If you try to set this up for Cricket, the code you dial to activate Google Voicemail is slightly different.
For Cricket, dial *74xxxxxxx.
If you get an error after dialing it, something like "Cricket does not currently offer this service", then the problem isn't that Cricket doesn't offer it, but that your account does not have Call Forwarding enabled.
So, if you use Cricket and you get an error after dialing the code, go to your My Account on the Cricket Website and double check/add the Call Forwarding feature to your account. Once you do this, the code will work and GVoicemail can be activated.
Thanks again!
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Hey, thanks a lot for this guide! I've had "setting up google voicemail" on my to-do list for a while now, and your easy to understand guide motivated me to get it set up. Thanks a lot!
Just wanted to add a little something (feel free to put it in your guide if you want, to avoid questions in the forum later) for people who are on Cricket Wireless...
If you try to set this up for Cricket, the code you dial to activate Google Voicemail is slightly different.
For Cricket, dial *74xxxxxxx.
If you get an error after dialing it, something like "Cricket does not currently offer this service", then the problem isn't that Cricket doesn't offer it, but that your account does not have Call Forwarding enabled.
So, if you use Cricket and you get an error after dialing the code, go to your My Account on the Cricket Website and double check/add the Call Forwarding feature to your account. Once you do this, the code will work and GVoicemail can be activated.
Thanks again!
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Excellent, and thanks; I'm glad this is being helpful to some people. I will definitely add that to at least the PDF guide today after I finish some school work. I look at this guide as a work in progress, and I'd like to eventually make it a fairly comprehensive users-guide to GV.
My one comment is:
*28 on Sprint forwards BOTH busy line, and no answer. From reading the cricket site, it seems that you'd both need to do *73 and *74 codes, so that when you're busy, it also sends calls to GV. On sprint you can do this too, as it would be the same as doing *28. Actually when I first activated mine, I had to do it that way because the exchange I was using was having some problems with the *28. Basically *28 is just a shortcut (on sprint, not cricket) for forwarding both.
So I'll add this explanation to the guide too. (along with undo codes) I totally forgot I had that problem. But I'm pretty sure you want to also do *73.
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To the people with billing comments:
So basicially everyone is saying:
1) All GV calls out are charged as calls to a land line. (which I have experienced too)
2) All GV incoming calls are charged as if you were receiving the call directly. (i.e. [Mobile call -> GV -> your phone] is charged as mobile... OR ... [landline call -> GV -> your phone] is charged as landline]
Am I right here? If so, I'll add this in today, too.
what am i missing?
* I have google voice setup correctly
* I have the application from the market installed
* I am receiving notifications in the form of text, and through the notification bar in android.
What I cannot figure out is how to opened the darn program when i want to get back into google voice to look at the messages in the inbox. i can get in when a message icon is in the tray (i just click on it and google voice comes up), but later on when i think "what was that message again?" and I go to go back to the program I cannot find a way to get in.
* There is no program in the "all programs" page (accessed by the arrow)
* There is no widget (other than the one to change how i want google voice to make calls for me)
What am I missing? I cannot figure out how to get into the program.
I could go to the mobile site, but that just seems silly when i know that the program is on my phone. I just can't find an icon to access it.
Please tell me I'm blind, and missing something obvious.
-AndyS-
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* I have google voice setup correctly
* I have the application from the market installed
* I am receiving notifications in the form of text, and through the notification bar in android.
What I cannot figure out is how to opened the darn program when i want to get back into google voice to look at the messages in the inbox. i can get in when a message icon is in the tray (i just click on it and google voice comes up), but later on when i think "what was that message again?" and I go to go back to the program I cannot find a way to get in.
* There is no program in the "all programs" page (accessed by the arrow)
* There is no widget (other than the one to change how i want google voice to make calls for me)
What am I missing? I cannot figure out how to get into the program.
I could go to the mobile site, but that just seems silly when i know that the program is on my phone. I just can't find an icon to access it.
Please tell me I'm blind, and missing something obvious.
-AndyS-
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I can only guess that you're looking for an icon that says "Google Voice" when actually the icon just says "Voice"
yikes!
@thematrixkid17 - see, I asked for something obvious and you gave it to me
I'm really pretty embarrassed considering the time that I was trying to figure this out, and that it was in front of me the whole time.
Thanks for the quick reply.
-AndyS-
laufine said:
According to GV surport forum. If somebody(cellphone) calls ur GV number and transfer to ur sprint number. It should be counted as Mobile to Mobile. However, if you called somebody else through ur GV number, it will be conted as you call a landline.
link is here.
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Sprint has a feature called "Sprint to Home" for $5 /month. If you add that to your plan ALL calls going to and from google voice are free. I use my phone ALL the time and only manage to rack up a 20-30 minutes a month .
realmrealm said:
@thematrixkid17 - see, I asked for something obvious and you gave it to me
I'm really pretty embarrassed considering the time that I was trying to figure this out, and that it was in front of me the whole time.
Thanks for the quick reply.
-AndyS-
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No problem. I knew that was probably your problem, because I had to do a double-take the first time I installed it too. Voice sounds really generic and has a pretty generic looking icon, so its not hard to overlook. I should add a picture of the icon to my guide
biggoan said:
Sprint has a feature called "Sprint to Home" for $5 /month. If you add that to your plan ALL calls going to and from google voice are free. I use my phone ALL the time and only manage to rack up a 20-30 minutes a month .
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I've heard about that. So you use google voice to dial to everybody? Cause I have 300 mins/month(Family plan,1500mins, 5ppl), if next month I use more than 300 mins, I'll call sprint to add this service.
anyone happen to happen an invite
[email protected]
so could i use this as my primary voicemail with my sprint number or would i have use the gv one? which i would see no point in if you don't use the gv number? thanks to whoever can clear this up for me
ko0pa11 said:
anyone happen to happen an invite
[email protected]
so could i use this as my primary voicemail with my sprint number or would i have use the gv one? which i would see no point in if you don't use the gv number? thanks to whoever can clear this up for me
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Yes, you can use it as primary voicemail, while still using your Sprint number. That's how I primarily use mine, since I'm on a 1500 minute 5 line family plan with free mobile to mobile any network, and we barely use 200 anytime minutes COMBINED. So it doesn't make sense for me to use GV for calls, when everyone already has my Sprint number. just follow the section in the guide "google voice as voicemail" or the setup instructions on GV.
What is nice about GV for voicemail is that you get visual voicemail via the GV android app, access to voicemail on your pc, its easy to archive messages, custom greetings for different groups of callers, and a bunch of other stuff. Voicemail transcription isn't great yet, but makes it nice to get an idea of what callers are saying if you can't listen (class, meeting, etc)
Invites are pretty sparse. I only ever got three, which I've used for my close friends, or i'd hand them out.
Again, i'll be updating the guide semi-daily based on questions in this thread
laufine said:
I've heard about that. So you use google voice to dial to everybody? Cause I have 300 mins/month(Family plan,1500mins, 5ppl), if next month I use more than 300 mins, I'll call sprint to add this service.
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A lot of the family plans now have the free mobile to mobile any network, so if you mainly make mobile calls, you might take a look at that as an option too. (sorry if I keep bringing this up, but it did really do a killing on my plan; my sister used almost 9000 free minutes last month because of this)
http://googlevoiceblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/faster-google-voice-experience-on.html
Not sure if this was already posted, but no more relying on SMS for syncing!!!
Until I can see confirmation that this is effective and is not going to drain my battery, I'm staying put with the workaround which works great and works in seconds.
I have not used Google Voice a ton, but the new version seems to be tons slower at notifications. Today they took about about an hour to come.
Hell yeah! :d:d:d
anyone notice that when you call out use GV, it still displays your regular cell phone number rather than your GV number to the person you call. is there a way to fix this?
ajaholic said:
anyone notice that when you call out use GV, it still displays your regular cell phone number rather than your GV number to the person you call. is there a way to fix this?
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if you got the GV app and you're using it "for all calls" it should display your gv number...
PS the delay is about AT MOST 1-2 minutes on my hero... (side by side with internet inbox i mean) still better than AT LEAST 5minutes
ajaholic said:
anyone notice that when you call out use GV, it still displays your regular cell phone number rather than your GV number to the person you call. is there a way to fix this?
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if you're on a 2.1 rom GV doesn't work properly for making calls but i found this app in the market called gvoice callback that does the trick
ajaholic said:
anyone notice that when you call out use GV, it still displays your regular cell phone number rather than your GV number to the person you call. is there a way to fix this?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5840612&postcount=25
works for me on DC v1
Can anyone confirm the new versions notifications does work correctly????
Does anyone know how to set Hero 2.1 to have to auto forward to GV so I can use that for my voicemail instead of Sprint? In fact does anyone know where the call forwarding is?
RLothar said:
Does anyone know how to set Hero 2.1 to have to auto forward to GV so I can use that for my voicemail instead of Sprint? In fact does anyone know where the call forwarding is?
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For Call Forward - No Answer, dial *73(your GV number)
energizer1389 said:
Can anyone confirm the new versions notifications does work correctly????
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Running on a 1.5 ROM (TTG), the notifications in the new version do in fact work properly, and instantly. Woohoo, finally! In fact, while I was cleaning up old 'unread' messages via my PC, my phone was going 'ding' every time I deleted one and the 'new message' notification count changed.
RLothar said:
Does anyone know how to set Hero 2.1 to have to auto forward to GV so I can use that for my voicemail instead of Sprint? In fact does anyone know where the call forwarding is?
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When you are activating the feature on Google, as per instructions here at https://www.google.com/voice/sprint I believe they actually show you the code, *28XXXXXXXXXX, to punch in. Looking around now, I had to search a bit to find it, as I couldn't remember from doing it myself. Anyways, that is it, *28[Your GV Number], and then *38 if you ever want to turn it off.
I was using the SMS workaround. Just disabled SMS to my phone and left a test message.
I received notification on my phone within a minute.
Now, does it drain the battery? I wouldn't think it would as it is push and not a pull.
Oh, and the LED works.
askwhy said:
Running on a 1.5 ROM (TTG), the notifications in the new version do in fact work properly, and instantly. Woohoo, finally! In fact, while I was cleaning up old 'unread' messages via my PC, my phone was going 'ding' every time I deleted one and the 'new message' notification count changed.
When you are activating the feature on Google, as per instructions here at https://www.google.com/voice/sprint I believe they actually show you the code, *28XXXXXXXXXX, to punch in. Looking around now, I had to search a bit to find it, as I couldn't remember from doing it myself. Anyways, that is it, *28[Your GV Number], and then *38 if you ever want to turn it off.
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*28 and *38 don't work for me, but the following do:
Call Forwarding - Unconditional = *72(number), *720 to turn off
Call Forwarding - No Answer = *73(number), *730 to turn off
Call Forwarding - Busy = *74(number), *740 to turn off
ripleys said:
*28 and *38 don't work for me, but the following do:
Call Forwarding - Unconditional = *72(number), *720 to turn off
Call Forwarding - No Answer = *73(number), *730 to turn off
Call Forwarding - Busy = *74(number), *740 to turn off
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Fair enough. All the same, *28 is the official code for covering both conditions that normally required *73 and *74. It worked fine for me, and is well documented. Not sure why it wouldn't work for others, but I am no telco expert.
Also, for anyone who was wondering, yes they still charge for *72 (unconditional).
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Fair enough. All the same, *28 is the official code for covering both conditions that normally required *73 and *74. It worked fine for me, and is well documented. Not sure why it wouldn't work for others, but I am no telco expert.
Also, for anyone who was wondering, yes they still charge for *72 (unconditional).
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*28 also works for call forward - busy? For those using *28, how does this work/get along with call waiting?
ripleys said:
*28 also works for call forward - busy? For those using *28, how does this work/get along with call waiting?
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First question: Yes, it does. I dug around a bit for come clarification and found this.
See comment from that article:
One is for CFB, the other for CFNA. *28 does both CFB and CFNA in one shot.
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Second question: Not sure how *28 has affected call waiting specifically, but I can tell you that I hate trying to answer a second call in general since I started using GV. It's been a while since I bothered to try, in fact. I remember a few times pressing 'Answer' only to then have a GV voice prompt ask if I wanted to answer the second call or 'add it' to the existing call, and by the time it asks, the 2nd caller is gone and I am lucky to get back to the first. I got frustrated and stopped answering second incoming calls as there is rarely anyone I want to talk to that badly (including clients).
I doubt that my call waiting rant is helpful, but I had to get it off my chest. Whew!
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First question: Yes, it does. I dug around a bit for come clarification and found this.
See comment from that article:
Second question: Not sure how *28 has affected call waiting specifically, but I can tell you that I hate trying to answer a second call in general since I started using GV. It's been a while since I bothered to try, in fact. I remember a few times pressing 'Answer' only to then have a GV voice prompt ask if I wanted to answer the second call or 'add it' to the existing call, and by the time it asks, the 2nd caller is gone and I am lucky to get back to the first. I got frustrated and stopped answering second incoming calls as there is rarely anyone I want to talk to that badly (including clients).
I doubt that my call waiting rant is helpful, but I had to get it off my chest. Whew!
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Thanks for the info. I use call waiting a good bit. I often put my kids on hold when a business call comes in, so I'll stick with *73, but just for grins I'm gonna call Sprint and complain that my *28 isn't working.
Does anyone know if it is possible to have two different voicemail messages based on the number the other person dials? I know I can set up different messages for different groups, but I want one message for people who dial my cell # and one message for people who dial my GV#.
I recently started trying to complete a phone call recorder for the Nexus One running FroYo, but I've been having trouble getting the audio source to work correctly.
Using MediaRecorder.setAudioSource with MediaRecorder.AudioSource.VOICE_CALL results in a 0 kb file.
MediaRecorder.AudioSource.VOICE_DOWNLINK and MediaRecorder.AudioSource.VOICE_UPLINK both only record from the MIC and are therefore no different than MediaRecorder.AudioSource.MIC
Does anyone have any experience working with this part of the API, trying to do something similar? My next step would be to re-work using AudioRecord, but from what I've been reading online no one has had any success with that either.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks in advance!!
-teleknEsis
Googlevoice can do this. I believe you hit the number 4 during a call to start recording and 4 again to stop.
teleknEsis said:
I recently started trying to complete a phone call recorder for the Nexus One running FroYo, but I've been having trouble getting the audio source to work correctly.
Using MediaRecorder.setAudioSource with MediaRecorder.AudioSource.VOICE_CALL results in a 0 kb file.
MediaRecorder.AudioSource.VOICE_DOWNLINK and MediaRecorder.AudioSource.VOICE_UPLINK both only record from the MIC and are therefore no different than MediaRecorder.AudioSource.MIC
Does anyone have any experience working with this part of the API, trying to do something similar? My next step would be to re-work using AudioRecord, but from what I've been reading online no one has had any success with that either.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks in advance!!
-teleknEsis
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Isn't this illegal?
Geo411m said:
Googlevoice can do this. I believe you hit the number 4 during a call to start recording and 4 again to stop.
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Well damn, you got me there. Indeed that does work, although it requires someone to call you through your google voice #. I think there's still enough demand out there for a native call recorder that this is still worth investigating a fix.
But thanks for the info!!!!
prettyboy85712 said:
Isn't this illegal?
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No, actually in my state (Texas) it is not. As long as "1 of the parties is aware it is being recorded" (uhhh myself) it is legal.
The last time this was discussed Dianne Hackborn said that the G1 did not have the hardware for this to happen.
The problem was that the baseband processor did all the work and the raw audio stream was never exposed to Android (yep, including if you use a bluetooth headset, all done by the baseband processor) she said the problem was that qualcomm et al tended to lock up the functionality making such things really hard to do without their co-operation at driver writing time.
I'd guess this still holds for the N1.
Google voice however is just fancy VOIP so that is all done within the kernel hence the audio is easy to get at.
Here's a bit of the thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06770.html
Geo411m said:
Googlevoice can do this. I believe you hit the number 4 during a call to start recording and 4 again to stop.
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lmao but it makes everything akward when the voice says its recording. i believe it only works for incoming calls as well
prettyboy85712 said:
Isn't this illegal?
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this is an international site....just because its illegal where you are doesnt mean it is everywhere.
teleknEsis said:
No, actually in my state (Texas) it is not. As long as "1 of the parties is aware it is being recorded" (uhhh myself) it is legal.
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finally i have a right to do something in texas besides own a gun
man, i really wish there was an app for this (besides google voice) =/
I have been trying to find an app that takes this one step further, and can be used as a voicemail service.
Here in Australia we have to pay for the call diversion to carrier provided voicemail, then pay to retrieve the message.
If the phone answered the call and recorded the message it would eliminate the need for carrier voicemail.
Recording calls will be great if you can make it work, but reading other posts it seems it may not be possible.
flybyme said:
lmao but it makes everything akward when the voice says its recording. i believe it only works for incoming calls as well
this is an international site....just because its illegal where you are doesnt mean it is everywhere.
finally i have a right to do something in texas besides own a gun
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Points well made, remember though an app to be issued on this site, might be unlawful since the servers are located in the USA.
As too anyone interested in the state laws for recording a conversation per state:
http://www.rcfp.org/taping/quick.html
Remember one thing also, the reason Google removed all the recording apps off the market is because they didn't want to be responsible for the actions.
Google voice records a conversation after it notifies the caller on the other end of the call.
Just an fyi too you all.
Mikey1022 said:
Remember one thing also, the reason Google removed all the recording apps off the market is because they didn't want to be responsible for the actions.
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Wow I didn't realize they pulled them off the market lol
I thought that was because I couldnt see all the protected apps
SilentMobius said:
The last time this was discussed Dianne Hackborn said that the G1 did not have the hardware for this to happen.
The problem was that the baseband processor did all the work and the raw audio stream was never exposed to Android (yep, including if you use a bluetooth headset, all done by the baseband processor) she said the problem was that qualcomm et al tended to lock up the functionality making such things really hard to do without their co-operation at driver writing time.
I'd guess this still holds for the N1.
Google voice however is just fancy VOIP so that is all done within the kernel hence the audio is easy to get at.
Here's a bit of the thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06770.html
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Very interesting, and that would certainly explain the limitations of the API on the Nexus One. I really wish there was some way around this.
Mikey1022 said:
Remember one thing also, the reason Google removed all the recording apps off the market is because they didn't want to be responsible for the actions.
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Could you provide a link to back that assertion up? as I said I don't believe there have been any actual call-recording apps on the market, due to technical limitations, just normal recording apps that could be used to (poorly) record a call. And I don't believe any of those have been pulled.
Personally IMHO the notion that you can't record something you hear is nonsense. Thankfully I don't live in a country where this is so.
If you have a SIP account (or VOIP), you can download the app 3cxPhone from Android Market and in the Settings there is an option to record all calls.
I have tested it and it works perfectly. Both parties are recorded loud and clear unlike most of the old call recorders on the Market where you could barely hear the other party. I think it has something to do with SIP apps, like Sipdroid and 3cxPhone, calls function as Media files rather than phone calls on Android, allowing the recording of both sides of the call equally.
Anyway, the recorded call auto saves as a .wav file on your sd card under /3cxPhone/recordings.
Use your Google Voice number as a SIP account. Substitute 3cxPhone for Sipdroid in the tutorial... http://androidforums.com/android-lo...-your-android-phone-free-us-canada-calls.html
There's also trick you can do to record all in and out calls with 2 Google Voice accounts, one of the GV callback apps in Market, a MagicJack, and your regular phone calling plan (not Sipdroid or 3cxPhone).
Long tutorial short...
-you set up your MagicJack number as a forwarding number on GV line 1.
-Then, after its registered, go into the MJ login page and auto-forward all calls to your GV line 2 number. You can put your MJ in a drawer and never plug it in again after that.
-in the Android GV callback app, login with GV line 1. In the Settings, change the "This Phone's number" to the MagicJack number. Make sure your GV line 1 does not forward to your cell phone. Check desktop GV Settings to be sure.
-in GV line 2's Desktop version, make a new Contact with GV line 1's number. Name it whatever you want. In the Settings for that Contact, make all calls ring your Mobile number. Turn off all Call Screening or Call Presentation for that Contact, meaning calls just go through without options to reject or send to VM.
-Finally, to make calls, in the GV callback Android app, enter a number or choose a contact to call. It will call you back on your MJ number, which happens to forward to your GV Line 2 number....which is getting an incoming call(calling your cell), which means you can just push the number 4 as soon as you pick up the callback to start recording.
Your outgoing Caller ID will be GV Line 1 but your recordings will show up in GV Line 2.
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agriff said:
If you have a SIP account (or VOIP), you can download the app 3cxPhone from Android Market and in the Settings there is an option to record all calls.
I have tested it and it works perfectly. Both parties are recorded loud and clear unlike most of the old call recorders on the Market where you could barely hear the other party. I think it has something to do with SIP apps, like Sipdroid and 3cxPhone, calls function as Media files rather than phone calls on Android, allowing the recording of both sides of the call equally.
Anyway, the recorded call auto saves as a .wav file on your sd card under /3cxPhone/recordings.
Use your Google Voice number as a SIP account. Substitute 3cxPhone for Sipdroid in the tutorial... http://androidforums.com/android-lo...-your-android-phone-free-us-canada-calls.html
There's also trick you can do to record all in and out calls with 2 Google Voice accounts, one of the GV callback apps in Market, a MagicJack, and your regular phone calling plan (not Sipdroid or 3cxPhone).
Long tutorial short...
-you set up your MagicJack number as a forwarding number on GV line 1.
-Then, after its registered, go into the MJ login page and auto-forward all calls to your GV line 2 number. You can put your MJ in a drawer and never plug it in again after that.
-in the Android GV callback app, login with GV line 1. In the Settings, change the "This Phone's number" to the MagicJack number. Make sure your GV line 1 does not forward to your cell phone. Check desktop GV Settings to be sure.
-in GV line 2's Desktop version, make a new Contact with GV line 1's number. Name it whatever you want. In the Settings for that Contact, make all calls ring your Mobile number. Turn off all Call Screening or Call Presentation for that Contact, meaning calls just go through without options to reject or send to VM.
-Finally, to make calls, in the GV callback Android app, enter a number or choose a contact to call. It will call you back on your MJ number, which happens to forward to your GV Line 2 number....which is getting an incoming call(calling your cell), which means you can just push the number 4 as soon as you pick up the callback to start recording.
Your outgoing Caller ID will be GV Line 1 but your recordings will show up in GV Line 2.
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While i do appreciate these "workarounds", that was not the point of my thread. From what I can tell, there is a large demand out there for a native application that doesn't require using a VOIP service such as Google Voice or any wonky "setups", and records calls directly to the device. None of the apps I have found so far will record both the incoming and outgoing voice stream, and from my testing with the API and what I've read online, it doesn't seem possible to do with the Nexus One.
I'm more or less just looking for input from people who are familiar with this API and have attempted to do something similar. Thanks anyway....
Using total recall with froyo, works fine.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-killermobile-totalrecall-trial-xtDm.aspx
avelec said:
Using total recall with froyo, works fine.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-killermobile-totalrecall-trial-xtDm.aspx
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I beg to differ. All the files saved are ending up as 0 kb files and of course won't play. Exact same problem I had during testing of my application. My guess is he's using the VOICE_CALL audio source which was leading to that same problem for me.
If it really does work for you, what location do you have set to save the calls and what format are you saving as?
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I beg to differ. All the files saved are ending up as 0 kb files and of course won't play. Exact same problem I had during testing of my application. My guess is he's using the VOICE_CALL audio source which was leading to that same problem for me.
If it really does work for you, what location do you have set to save the calls and what format are you saving as?
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Mine is default to /mnt/sdcard, I'm running [ROM] Kang-o-rama 0.9 Final SP2 (FRF85) w/apps2ext.
Setup to record only incoming call. Hope this helps.
avelec said:
Using total recall with froyo, works fine.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-killermobile-totalrecall-trial-xtDm.aspx
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Total recall uses microphone too, so did you read the first post ?
WOT this is not any kind of production/everyday app. Lets pursue other options or future releases of this.....
I apologize if this already exists, but I was unable to find anything on Google or the forums here.
I'm wondering if it's feasible to create an apk that will do the following:
Upon incoming call, check the number. If it exists in a database of user-added numbers, or is Unknown/Private (if this setting is selected), then the call is answered by the phone automatically (without playing a ringtone), the mic is shut off, and it plays back a recording of the "The number you have dialed is not in service". Set it to disconnect after 30 seconds or so, if the other end of the call doesn't end it themselves.
I believe this would be useful as a sort of black-listing program, and should anyone call that number while blacklisted, they would most likely remove the number from their list. I see this being beneficial for telemarketers, collections calls, Ex-boyfriends/ex-girlfriends, that stranger in the bar you gave your number out to after you had too much to drink, etc.
While I realize there are a number of call-blocking programs out there, I think the main selling point of this would be that it would stop the calls from coming from that source.
Sorry if a thread like this exists somewhere, or even an app, but I couldn't find anything. I've just been thinking about this a lot lately, and while I have some experience programming, I have yet to touch anything for the Android OS.
Thanks!
check the market for a callblock app, shold be what your looking for
Not exactly. The call blocking applications I've seen so far either send them directly to voicemail, or pick up the call and immediately hang up on them.
The primary difference I'm looking for is muting the microphone and playing back a message prior to hanging up the call.
Does this already exist? If not, is it possible to create? Again, I have no experience coding for Android, so I don't know what we can and cannot do, although I imagine it probably would be possible, preferably without root (so as to reach a wider audience).
i believe you can do this with google voice.
i think if you mark the number as spam or block it in google voice it plays that type of message.
The only problem with that, is it requires the use of the Google Voice number, right? Which does not help for those who already have the current number. See OP:
I see this being beneficial for telemarketers, collections calls, Ex-boyfriends/ex-girlfriends, that stranger in the bar you gave your number out to after you had too much to drink, etc.
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I apologize for this needing to be moved. My original question was actually whether or not it was possible, but this turned more into a "Try this app" thread.
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The only problem with that, is it requires the use of the Google Voice number, right? Which does not help for those who already have the current number. See OP:
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i believe if you end up using google voice for voice mail (where you dont have to have a gv number) it does this also.
so, i registered for google voice in the past and im thinking about actually using it now for the new thunderbolt since i wanted a new number anyway. has anyone used google voice on verizon before? what should i keep in mind when making the decision or not? does it ring a ton of times before going to voicemail like it did on sprint? have there ever been any issues with verizon and google voice or don't they mind if you use it? thanks.
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I've had it for years. No issues on VZW. Just like your normal number. Voicemail is transcribed for you, though it's not very accurate. You can usually figure out what they're trying to say. If not, you can play the message and listen to it.
I've been very happy with Google Voice on my Android phones. The voice-to-text isn't as good as some other systems I've seen, but it works well enough.
Download the app and give it a try. I think when I set my up on the TB, it gave an error complaining about being able to configure VZW. That was a new error I hadn't seen on my Inc. You may need to manually configure the "no-answer" call forwarding to your GV number. The setup should configure your phone to dial your GV number when you hit the 1 button for "Voicemail".
Give it a try!
Google Voice is the greatest thing since sliced bread, especially if you have multiple phones...one number to rule them all!
I'm testing the theory right now, but on T-Mobile people with NOT-unlimited plans were assigning their GV number as one of their Fave 5 (Friends & Family on VZW) and then telling the phone to make and receive all calls via GV, in effect giving them unlimited minutes. Does anyone know for sure if this works on VZW or not? I've set mine up that way (900 minute plan), and my used minutes seem to suggest that it will, but there's no minutes being charged to F&F on my online billing page yet.
The only thing holding me back is the apparent lack of mms. Not that many people send me picture messages, but id like for them to at least get a rejection message saying its not possible on ny device so they know it wasnt received
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Google Voice Setup for Voicemail only
I had a problem setting up voicemail for my verizon number to work with google voice and thought I would share how i corrected it.
I installed GV app and it said my carrier does not support automatic config.
I could view old messages I had but all new incoming calls went to my verizon VM
In order to route calls to GV VM I had to
Dial *71xxx-xxx-xxxx where xxx is your google voice number and hit call
it will beep a few time then hang up
next
Dial *90xxx-xxx-xxxx where xxx is your google voice number and hit call
it will beep a few time then hang up
next
Dial *92xxx-xxx-xxxx where xxx is your google voice number and hit call
it will beep a few time then hang up
next
This successfully routed all incoming calls to my google voice.
To deactivate call being routed you must do this
*73 call
*900 call
*920 call
Hope this helps someone else.
wrb123 said:
The only thing holding me back is the apparent lack of mms. Not that many people send me picture messages, but id like for them to at least get a rejection message saying its not possible on ny device so they know it wasnt received
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Agreed. The crappy texting service that GV provides is the only thing keeping me from using it full time. MMS isn't the only issue.
I'm gonna drop the Verizon text add-on and give it a try. $70/mo for unlimited LTE is amazing!
Anything I should do to make sure im not being charged for texts? Just composing them within the voice app so I think I'm ok, just slightly paranoid.
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craighwk said:
Agreed. The crappy texting service that GV provides is the only thing keeping me from using it full time. MMS isn't the only issue.
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I love the texting service from GV. It's my primary means of communicating with many people. There's so many advantages to it, including, in no particular order:
1) It's free. I turned off my SMS plan with AT&T last summer and have been 100% exclusive GV for texts since. I'm saving $20/month on my AT&T phone bill and selected NO text messages on my new Verizon account and I still have unlimited texts.
2) It works across multiple phones, platforms, devices all at the same time. When you send me a text to my GV number, it shows up on all four of my active cellphones, and on all of my computers and laptops that have GV web page open or the GV plugin (for Chrome). I can respond to them without even pulling my phone out of my pocket if I'm at the computer.
3) My texts are automatically backed up in the Google cloud, no need to worry about losing them or backing them up special on my phone as I swap ROMs or wipe data. And I can access them from any phone or web enabled computer.
4) I get all my messages, no one's ever complained that I didn't respond to something they sent that didn't come through. Seems very reliable to me after 15 on it.
As for MMS service, I think Steve Jobs was correct, albeit too far ahead of his time, when he said on the original iPhone that you didn't need MMS, just use email on a smartphone. It was a bit painful way back then (2007...seems so long ago in cell phone terms) at first, but once I trained all my contacts to just send via email I haven't missed any of the pics they want to share, and I'm not paying anything extra to the phone company for the privilege of getting a lower resolution image that's been scaled down to meet MMS limitations.
Thanks for the directions on setting up GV Voicemail, I had to google the instructions (go figure) and found the same info after a quick search. Tested it today and it's working like a champ.
Sweet Jesus I really dig this phone.
I was told by the verizon customer service rep that call waiting is no longer available if you route GV to be the VM service. Anyone else successfully rig it so they can still maintain call waiting but use GV to intercept voicemails?
I have never had a problem with call waiting. Also when I set it up on my Thunderbolt I got the error message as well but when hit skip and went thru the rest of the steps, I checked to see if it was set in my phone settings and it was had a buddy call to test it and it worked just fine not really sure what happened to make i just work without haveing to complete the step where it makes you make the calls during set up but mine is working just fine.
Oh yeah guess I should mention I only you it for the visual voice mail though.
denonlake said:
I had a problem setting up voicemail for my verizon number to work with google voice and thought I would share how i corrected it.
I installed GV app and it said my carrier does not support automatic config.
I could view old messages I had but all new incoming calls went to my verizon VM
In order to route calls to GV VM I had to
Dial *71xxx-xxx-xxxx where xxx is your google voice number and hit call
it will beep a few time then hang up
next
Dial *90xxx-xxx-xxxx where xxx is your google voice number and hit call
it will beep a few time then hang up
next
Dial *92xxx-xxx-xxxx where xxx is your google voice number and hit call
it will beep a few time then hang up
next
This successfully routed all incoming calls to my google voice.
To deactivate call being routed you must do this
*73 call
*900 call
*920 call
Hope this helps someone else.
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Great info! thanx.
Question, how did you get GV to sync your GV on-line contacts list to your phone?
When I setup my phone it would not recognize my GV login and would tell me I didn't have a google account and to create a new one.
After creating a Gmail account it did recognized my phone and said you can use more than one google account login.
My GV login is working now, but I cant access my GV contacts unless I open a browser and login via the web access.
Any suggestions?
Thanx
figured it out, you have to apply a new account using the web assist option if not using gmail.
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I figured out what was wrong with Google Voice. It doesn't work with the 747 area code because Gizmo numbers used to start with 747. Its the new overlay for the San Fernando Valley. 818 area code is running out of numbers. I snooped around my Verizon account page and I was able to change it to a 818 #.
All is right in the world.
Just switched to Verizon last week (got the Droid Charge) and have been trying to get GV working for my outbound calling. I keep getting an error (bad number when it tries dialing out, and have seen more than one bad number). I googled looking for help with it...found tons of 3 year old posts with vague answers...
Anyone else had this issue? Know how to resolve it? Everything else with GV works fine on my phone, just can't dial out.
Thanks -
denonlake said:
I had a problem setting up voicemail for my verizon number to work with google voice and thought I would share how i corrected it.
I installed GV app and it said my carrier does not support automatic config.
I could view old messages I had but all new incoming calls went to my verizon VM
In order to route calls to GV VM I had to
Dial *71xxx-xxx-xxxx where xxx is your google voice number and hit call
it will beep a few time then hang up
next
Dial *90xxx-xxx-xxxx where xxx is your google voice number and hit call
it will beep a few time then hang up
next
Dial *92xxx-xxx-xxxx where xxx is your google voice number and hit call
it will beep a few time then hang up
next
This successfully routed all incoming calls to my google voice.
To deactivate call being routed you must do this
*73 call
*900 call
*920 call
Hope this helps someone else.
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Ok, I tried this and every time I do and call from another phone, there is nothing there for google voicemail. It says "please enter the number you would like to call followed by the # sign". What am I doing wrong? I dialed all 3 *numbers followed by the google voicemail number. I've tried this like 3-4 times. Help!
swtkimmie said:
Ok, I tried this and every time I do and call from another phone, there is nothing there for google voicemail. It says "please enter the number you would like to call followed by the # sign". What am I doing wrong? I dialed all 3 *numbers followed by the google voicemail number. I've tried this like 3-4 times. Help!
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You need to login in to your google page and activate it, don't remember how but the help section on your google voice page has the steps
Bamf is runnin' my bolt - smoke that vzw!
whenever I go to dial the x71xxx-xxx-xxxx i get a message saying "welcome to verizon wireless your call can not be completed as dialed.