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Hi all,
Sorry if this has been answered before!
Does anyone know if its possible to install an Android rom on the HTC HD2? That phone with android would be amaazing.
Thanks!
Not without a whole lot of work.
It is definitely a waste of that hardware to put wincrap on it.
The one reason I would NOT contribute to running android on that device is that every one of those devices that HTC sells, some amount of your $$ gets sent to microshaft, so strictly from the perspective of "I absolutely will NEVER give ONE THIN DIME to those greedy evil bastards", I would ignore the hardware and not do anything that could potentially boost its sales.
Always possible with XDA Dev...see this active thread in the Leo section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578575
Thanks for the responses...
Yeah I would love to see Android 2.0 on a Snapdragon processor. I too have a distaste for contributing to MS by purchasing an HD2, but it would be worth it
I get the feeling the recently confirmed "Google Phone" will infact be a modification of the HD2. The thing is, it's so fricken perfect in terms of form factor, I hope they don't make it worse in an attempt to make it distinguishable different from the original
Fingers crossed. And thanks, Ill check out that link.
lbcoder said:
Not without a whole lot of work.
It is definitely a waste of that hardware to put wincrap on it.
The one reason I would NOT contribute to running android on that device is that every one of those devices that HTC sells, some amount of your $$ gets sent to microshaft, so strictly from the perspective of "I absolutely will NEVER give ONE THIN DIME to those greedy evil bastards", I would ignore the hardware and not do anything that could potentially boost its sales.
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So do you own an HTC HD2 or not? If as you say you shouldn't have one, and how you would know if Android is not easy to install on HD2?
You can hate MS as we all do, but don't bad mouth a great piece of hardware, which maybe great if it runs Android.
wouldnt it easier to buy the nexus one ?
specs are close enough ....
maybe the release of this will make a port easier
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010/01/26/htc-supersonic-htc-a9292-render-and-live-picture/
I too, would like to see an android release on the HTC HD2... I really expected more from winmo 6.5
i hope there will be a port for winmo6.5 on hd2
We're all waiting for this mate.
Better be aware of who you support
lbcoder said:
Not without a whole lot of work.
It is definitely a waste of that hardware to put wincrap on it.
The one reason I would NOT contribute to running android on that device is that every one of those devices that HTC sells, some amount of your $$ gets sent to microshaft, so strictly from the perspective of "I absolutely will NEVER give ONE THIN DIME to those greedy evil bastards", I would ignore the hardware and not do anything that could potentially boost its sales.
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You complain about MS but think that Google is better? Really! You might want to check into the politics and beliefs of the Google CEO Eric Schmidt. In one of his most recent interviews he stated that he saw nothing wrong with controlling the news available to users via it's home page and search engine. Funnier yet is that they complain about China's censorship, I guess he beliefs censorship is ok as long as he is the censor.
Anyway, didn't mean for this to become a rant, but Google is no better than MS when it comes to attempting to control a market. Windows & Palm were first on the scene with smart phones and both of their operating systems have grown tremendously. I would even say that Apples iPhone OS would not be as intuitive today if it were not for MS and Palm.
Do you really want to port your own version of Android to HD2? It will never be as smooth and fast compared to say just buying an HTC Supersonic.
Also, what do you do with it when everybody has moved to Android 3.0? You won't have any support for it. The ROM Cook may no longer be interested with porting Android 3.0 to what would have been an old outdated piece of hardware in a year's time.
You're better off just buying an HTC Supersonic. At least you could pray that HTC would give you future Android versions when they become available.
I've played with a Nexus one and a HD2. The hardware is not close in my opinion. The supersonic (Evo) looks great but it's cdma.
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The supersonic (Evo) looks great but it's cdma.
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I'm sure (or at least hopeful) that a GSM version will be available later. It's a shame to have such an excellent spec hardware not available to the rest of the world.
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I'm sure (or at least hopeful) that a GSM version will be available later. It's a shame to have such an excellent spec hardware not available to the rest of the world.
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Really! I've gotten so tired of my Pro2 with WM 6.5, I would buy one in a heartbeat if it was GSM and supported my carrier's 3G. But of course, AT&T has to get the worst Android phones in history in its lineup while forgetting about HTC completely.
If the only thing to edit is the radio rom, shouldn't be such a big deal for all the developers here.
Really looking forward to my HD2 running android!!
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Really! I've gotten so tired of my Pro2 with WM 6.5, I would buy one in a heartbeat if it was GSM and supported my carrier's 3G. But of course, AT&T has to get the worst Android phones in history in its lineup while forgetting about HTC completely.
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I hope you know why At&t doesn't want htc smartphones on their lineup? The reason is because they dont want any htc phones to destroy the iphone. Which is true...sales will drop if a htc 4"3 screen showed up. Not to mention apple is sueing htc.
I just noticed the HTC desire has almost identical specs as the HD2, except for the screen size, most of it is the same, both are gsm....cant they port the android os from the desire on to the HD2..??
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I just noticed the HTC desire has almost identical specs as the HD2, except for the screen size, most of it is the same, both are gsm....cant they port the android os from the desire on to the HD2..??
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i want to know this as well .
Android for the hd2 ?
windows mobile isnt what i expected at all . A total failure (WM6.5 )actually IMHO
Think the Droid Incredible ROM would work on a HD2?? I don't know if it being from Verizon would make a difference or not. BTW - Droid Incredible is the strangest name for a phone EVER!!
Hi,
I currently have the iphone 3G and am soon due an upgrade so been looking at the available phones. I have considered the iphone 3GS, but do not think that the minor upgrades are worth the cash, and also (and probably more importantly) I am wanting a new challenge. As amazing as the iphone is I feel I need something new to play with.
I want a phone with a capacitive touchscreen, that is quick. Quick on the internet and quick at opening apps and programs. I want it to be good for emails, and internet browsing. Ideally I'd like a phone with as little limitations as possible, ie one you can manipulate, change layouts, home pages etc etc (obviously you don't get this with the iphone, it is as it is unless you jailbreak it)
I thought over the past couple of days I had narrowed it down to the HTC HD2 after asking numerous questions on this site (leo forum), but today have found another couple of interesting phones, the nokia x6 and the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10. I know this is a HTC/xda forum, but as you guys seem very knowledgeable I thought I'd ask your advice
I'm afraid some of the technology is moving too fast for me and so some of the OS's I'm not too familiar with. Obviously I know that the iphone runs off the iphone OS, which while works flawlessly imo but has many limitations. I know that the HD2 runs off windows mobile 6.5 (which gets bad reviews) but HTC have covered this up well. I know that with windows phones though you can pretty much customise everything, and tweak the phone to your hearts content. And sooner or later windows mobile 7 will be released
And then there's the Android OS, and I'm not familiar with this at all. All I know is that it's an OS that allows a lot of flexibility. As the X10 will be an android phone what will this mean? How much will you be able to customise and tweak the phone? Can you run microsoft office documents on it (ie word and excel).
With any of these phones can you change the UI, ie if there's an aspect of it you don't like eg if you don't like the way it scrolls from one picture to another can you change this? Can you change backgrounds and layouts of home pages, or media pages etc?
And then there's the inevitable apps question. I was disappointed by the windows marketplace but it was explained to me that it is relatively new, and also you can get apps from anywhere for the windows phones. Where exactly and how much do they cost etc. The same question for the android phones?
And finally, I've looked at demos of the X10 and on internet browsing it shows to zoom in and out you have designated zoom buttons onscreen, does this mean that it's not multitouch, ie you can't pinch to zoom in and out as in the HD2 and iphone?
Any comments or help about any of these phones is greatly appreciated.
Cheers
From the options you mention I would choose Leo and also add Rhodium (the best hardware keyboard device to this date)
And remember that if you choose a non HTC device you won´t get the great support XDA gives to HTC devices, which for me is a big plus!
Just my opinion.
Good luck on your quest
I am in a very similar situation.
My contract is up but I don't know which phone to get.
Having had the HTC Kaiser with Windows Mobile for the last 2 years (and Windows Mobile phones before that), I would advise anybody to stay away from WM until Microsoft actually released WM7 and catches up to the other mobiles OSs (iphone and android). And I am the "Microsoft" guy amongst people I know!
For me the decision is whether to give the iPhone a chance or whether I should wait for a decent Android phone to come out. I don't like being walled into Apple's walled garden nor do I want to use itunes (and all that other apple crap). On the other hand, Android phones to date have too small screens (3.2") and (in typical HTC fashion) are too slow.
I have high hopes for the Sony Xperia X10, the HTC Bravo, the Moto Milestone and the Acer A1.
I will likely make my decision in January. If one of the above 4 phones comes out with tri-band 3G and support for at&t 3G, I will get it. Otherwise, I will get an iphone 3GS.
Have you looked at the lg expo? it is totally sweet. i think that i will be getting one.
You need the power of Android & XDA:
1.Htc legen
2. google nexus
3. htc bravo
4. moto milestone
5. HD2?
Get the HTC HD2 & WM & have fun on XDA now. Or wait for the HTC Bravo, Nexus & other bigger screen androids.
Are Android phones the next big thing then? What makes them better than iphone OS and WinMo?
The X10 is set for release in January, this is android and has a 4" screen. When is the HTC BRavo set for release, and how will this compare to the HD2?
well..changing new phone soon~ and these r two giant monsters which i kept my eyes on it.
hd2, winmo 6.5, big screen, terrific snapdragon, and bla bla bla. well, i'm a diamond user so i've already getting used to WinMo. it attracts me because of its fabulous 4.3 screen and its processor. well, rumor says it can be upgraded to winmo 7 though.
droid, android 2.0, 16M colours and 3.7 screen, a lil higher resoloution compare with hd2 but lost in the side of inches, 0.6'. and heard that it's using a so called newer technology processor, Cortex A8. 550Mhz processor but the speed is almost same with the iphone. One big holding back is the Android which i'm not familiar at all. oh ya, the crystal talk attracts me too.
So, can somebody tell me the good and the bad between this two? XD kinda in dilemma though.
share ur information and comments here!
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well guys, added another ANDROID phone in between choices now~
the NEXUS ONE. well, kinda appealing to me..=)
really kinda bored with WinMo as HD2 is using wm6.5 which i'm using now in diamond too. the only attractive thing is the super duper big screen, while going off to android, i'm a little skeptical as i really never ever hold an android-based phone.
ok~ sony Erricson X10~ another rumor-said amazing android phone~ a very high resolution-screened phone and high megapixel. but, wonder it can be upgrade to eclair or not...
hard choices..>.<
regards,
billy.
Stay with HTC!!
I would choose Leo or Rhodium
this two articles about the Motorola Milestone (Droid) might help you in your decision:
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2009/12/review-motorola-milestone-droid-android-2-0/
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2009/12/review-motorola-milestone-droid-hardware-impressions/
I have written both reviews, and especially the android 2.0 review should give you a good impression of what android offers on the Motorola Droid.
I wa using windows mobile devices since the mda magician, and switched to android (htc hero - i wrote a 5 part review series about the switch to android: http://smartphoneblogging.com/tag/htc-hero/) and didn't regret it. Android is really a great os, and if you get an htc android device you have xda devs support too, so you could also consider getting an htc hero or wait for the nextgen htc devices. I wouldn't get an HD2 at this point, because wm just isn't competitive the way it is right now, and nobody knows if wm7 will change anything.
I'm sure the Android OS is great but I believe it's some what restricting in allowing the user to go above and beyond the typical customizing.
If both are supported by xda, then that variable can be excluded.
But the variable that has everyone curious is the fact that WM7 is coming and the HD2 is in the lineup of devices that get a free upgrade to what might some are anticipating is Microsoft last chance in keeping there 8% market shares alive.
This might be an apple and oranges like comparison which typically means one of two things:
1) very easy choice
2) very hard choice
I would go to the HD2 world of things. Keep in mind with the fact that this device being fresh on the market simply means patience is needed before everything gets ironed out by the fantastic chefs here in this xda community.
Good Luck with it all.....
Lot could depend on your carrier & location. Even if you buy unlocked, it may not have 3G like the HD2 in the States right now...
I'm crossing over to the Nexus ONE!
well guys, added another ANDROID phone in between choices now~
the NEXUS ONE. well, kinda appealing to me..=)
really kinda bored with WinMo as HD2 is using wm6.5 which i'm using now in diamond too. the only attractive thing is the super duper big screen, while going off to android, i'm a little skeptical as i really never ever hold an android-based phone.
hard choices..>.<
Would you consider adding the X10 to this list?
I am considering all the above phones too, but my preferance for now is the X10.
It would save me starting what would basically be a replica of your post......
could anyone layout in terms of usage as well? i'm an engineer who basically deals with attachments from email (ms excel, word, powerpoint, pdf, etc) - maybe a bit of editing would be a plus =)
HD2 looks nice with the big screen + integration with microsoft, kinda lean me over to it but supposedly there must be 3rd party apps that can go with android, is there? how bout iphone?
love the part on phone tweaking too...so, any suggestion guys?
thanks!
-phone noob-
sneasel.. depends on wat u need actually.. n i dont really know whether android has those 3rd party or not as i'm winmoer XD but seems like hd2 suits u though.. =)
yup!
...and im officially a HD2 user! ;D
Dont go for any wm devices
look man ill put it straight. windows mobile have no sense of ownership of there own brand. They are lazy bunch of ppl out to make profits out of ****ty operating systems. I would recommend you to go with android operated systems cuz they are so much better, refined and have a sense of ownership not of what they create n you can see that on how well there operating systems look and operate. PERIOD
HTC systems are great but they are a waste when they're with windows mobile.
hurmm...from the looks of it, you are quite right, htc do have a great system...on android, i've never used one, so dont know anything bout it...since i got HD2 on my hand, hoping cud put in android to try em...
well...is like they say, what suits one, that will be the best~
Hello everyone;
hope you keeping well, I have HTC Touch Pro in mean time and I wanna replace it, so with what I should replace it, HD7 or Hd2 or HTC Touch Pro2 ? Please help me decide one and why?
Thanks in advanced
You really want WP7 without basic features? For example: No SD Card support, no copy and paste, no default browser selection, no multitasking.
WM6.5 is not supported by Microsoft, so there willn't be any new updates.
Think about alternative platforms Android, Bada OS.
But if you really want Windows, I'd choose HD2.
First of all are you a tmobile customer? Most likely I'd say. But give some more options to choose from. Hd2 and touch pro 2 are both outdated already. Even though hd 7 looks pretty tempting but nah windows phone 7 is still a pretty weak platform. Consider buy a g2 or my touch 4g or vibrant 4g instead. But here of you decide the vibrant make sure it's vibrant 4g not the original one ok?
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out of those two id choose the hd7..its much more current hardware wise and it has the newer version of the windows mobile os...also in response to AdmcPL, those features arent available now but they will be released in a major update due out this spring, and even more features will be out in another update later this year
Why not go with the HTC Desire HD?
It's basically the same phone as the HD2, but comes with FroYo
I'd say HD7 is good , but not good enough .. wait and get something like dual core with better screen .. because soon HD2 & HD7 will be last gen. smartphones.
good luck anyway
If you have only these 3 options I'd go for the HD2 without any hesitation (I had one before my Z and had a Touch Pro before that one). You'll be able to flash all kinds of ROMS and install almost every OS on it (Android, WP7 etc.). There's a lot of support for this device.
Touch Pro2: only if you want to keep both a hard keyboard and WM. Otherwise forget it. Too old as already said by a previous poster.
HD7: I really don't like WP7. It looks so boring and ugly. Will there be as much applications and development as for Android or WM? I don't think so but that's just my opinion.
On the other way if you are not against other options I'd suggest you to buy an Android device like the Desire Z or HD as Android is really the best OS. You could install it on the HD2 but IMO the physical buttons are not appropriate and make the user experience less pleasant than with the soft keys on Android devices. I noticed immediately the difference when I switched from my HD2/Android to my Desire Z.
Hope it'll be helpful
GYIVIjuNkY said:
out of those two id choose the hd7..its much more current hardware wise and it has the newer version of the windows mobile os...also in response to AdmcPL, those features arent available now but they will be released in a major update due out this spring, and even more features will be out in another update later this year
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I doubt that there is any difference in hardware between HD7 and HD2 except for the kickstand in HD7.
But if anybody would ask me I will tell then to get HD2.
It can run WM6.5, Android and WP7 as good as any other phone.
@all thank u so much guys seriously I'm so greatful , and yes I will go and buy the HD2 today. I'll give my touch pro away I really liked the keyboard on it, guess ill buy external keyboard for the HD2 and for andorid I don't know didn't really use it that much but ill give it a shoot on my next HD2 hehe ... Thank you so so much
I'm a WM guy. From the days Windows Mobile 2003, WM 5, WM 6, 6.1 to WM6.5.
Tried WP7 but found it inmature, crippled, limited, sterile and lacking all the power user features of the WM6.5
So I jumped back to my trusty T9193 HD2 with custom WM6.5 Energy ROM. It is the Telstra Australia version of HTC HD2 running on USA AT&T 3G Bands.
Due to the lack of support from the apps developing community for Windows Mobile 6.5, I'm feeling tempted to get my hands on a Telstra Z710a HTC Sensation. Since Telstra Australia uses the same 3G (850MHz/1900MHz) bands as AT&T USA, it should be no problem to get it to work here (I suppose).
Of course Android is not WM6.5 but is a promissing, well featured, mature OS with a huge community of apps and ROMs developers.
After some reading on the forum, I found lots of people complaining about the display quality, the power-off charging issue and some other issues. Being an Australian phone, it will be a pain to get warranty repairs or exchange here in the states.
Due to these issues, Would it be wise to "upgrade" from my HD2 to the Sensation?
I'll get lynched for saying this, but iOS is the more mature platform (2007 vs Android's 2008) with more apps available if that is what you are looking for. Moreover, if you are worried about warranty and repairs, Apple usually takes good care of their customers.
I also was using an HD 2 for T-Mobile running the Energy Rom and I've been using the Sensation since it came out...no regrets!
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I left my HD2 for the Sensation. Android is in a whole different league than WinMo 6.5. I actually had Android ROM's on my HD2 and still do. My Girlfriend uses my HD2 with the Android OS on it. I stopped using WinMo as soon as Android Nand came out for the HD2.
Either way, do it. You won't regret it.
The HD2 served me well. It was my first Android phone (Well.. with it flashed of course) and it was GREAT however I hit problems such as a dead touchscreen after a year (Which warranty fixed) than it overheating every damn time it had to do anything intensive or even because of heat. I sent it to HTC and they sent it back the same way saying they fixed it.. Though it persisted. Sent it back a week later, this time I made it a point to tell them that they did NOTHING last time and wasted my money by sending it back without doing any changes. (My WinMo rom was still there with settings I changed specifically to see if they even did a ROM wipe.) They exchanged the motherboard the 2nd time and it was great.. for about a month.. than the overheating began once again. I mean I'm not even doing things like watching long videos or playing video games.. All I did was run it as a phone.. browsed the net for 10 minutes at a time 2 times max a day.. texted a few.. and it would die..
Going off a tangent, but you won't regret the switch to the Sensation 4G.. You won't see much change if you are just going to use it as a phone though! Gaming/video watching will be a lot better however
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My .02$.
Depends on what you are using the phone for. I actually am keeping my HD2 because of the great office integration and ability of the OS. If you have a shortage of apps you might be looking in the wrong place. True, the official marketpalce is seriously lacking in apps, however a quick search of the world wide web will reveal many many more. However as far as multi-media and gaming, the sensation wins hands down. Btw, Ive had android and am currently running WP7 on my phone because of the, once again, great office integration plus the rapidly expanding marketplace. I just love the ability to switch Roms and OS's like no other phone can. It truly is a superphone. What other phone has the ability to remain "current" after two years in this rapidly developing digital world?
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I'm a WM guy. From the days Windows Mobile 2003, WM 5, WM 6, 6.1 to WM6.5.
Tried WP7 but found it inmature, crippled, limited, sterile and lacking all the power user features of the WM6.5
So I jumped back to my trusty T9193 HD2 with custom WM6.5 Energy ROM. It is the Telstra Australia version of HTC HD2 running on USA AT&T 3G Bands.
Due to the lack of support from the apps developing community for Windows Mobile 6.5, I'm feeling tempted to get my hands on a Telstra Z710a HTC Sensation. Since Telstra Australia uses the same 3G (850MHz/1900MHz) bands as AT&T USA, it should be no problem to get it to work here (I suppose).
Of course Android is not WM6.5 but is a promissing, well featured, mature OS with a huge community of apps and ROMs developers.
After some reading on the forum, I found lots of people complaining about the display quality, the power-off charging issue and some other issues. Being an Australian phone, it will be a pain to get warranty repairs or exchange here in the states.
Due to these issues, Would it be wise to "upgrade" from my HD2 to the Sensation?
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The biggest thing to me was getting over the issue of not having the physical buttons. Still bugs me from time to time. The biggest button I miss is the end call/power button.
Like you I'm still down for WM6.5, honestly I saw nothing wrong with it. However I did install Android on my HD2 and liked it. Call it my test run for the final migration to Android full time.
The speaker doesn't seem to be as loud as the HD2 but works. The camera can zoom while recording video BUT doesn't have MP4 format as an option. I hope S-Off can take care of that somewhere (recording format).
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My .02$.
Depends on what you are using the phone for. I actually am keeping my HD2 because of the great office integration and ability of the OS. If you have a shortage of apps you might be looking in the wrong place. True, the official marketpalce is seriously lacking in apps, however a quick search of the world wide web will reveal many many more. However as far as multi-media and gaming, the sensation wins hands down. Btw, Ive had android and am currently running WP7 on my phone because of the, once again, great office integration plus the rapidly expanding marketplace. I just love the ability to switch Roms and OS's like no other phone can. It truly is a superphone. What other phone has the ability to remain "current" after two years in this rapidly developing digital world?
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Also this!
In my experience mate, it's only an upgrade on paper
I have the Australian (Telstra) version of the Sensation and can only speak from experience with this, but I got far better performance out of a NAND ROM on my 9193 than I did with this heap (stock). That changed a bit once I S-OFFed and put a custom ROM/kernel on there, but Sense is still laggy as all buggery and my Atrix still runs rings around it. Even putting a new Launcher over the top hasn't made it 'feel' like a dual-core, like the Atrix and GS2 do.
I still use my 9193, it's my work phone. I don't think I'll ever get rid of it. It's far too good an all-rounder and far too well supported.
In terms of flexibility, you are already sitting on the ultimate device. It will be a long time before we see another device with the support and variety that LEO got.
I think if you're asking the question, you may already know the answer
Good luck either way, your 9193 will get an excellent price in the Marketplace should you decide to sell
Thanks for the suggestions and advise!
Specialy from all of you, the ones that still keep and use their HD2s.
I work as IT Specialist and for me the HD2 is like a swiss army knife. I carry in its storage card all the files and apps I need to keep my networks and clients up and running in no time. Its a matter of connecting the phone to any network pc to upload the file needed and presto.
I don't know of any other phone with such flexibility and integration with the pc enviroment.
I was tempted by the "lack of support" from the apps comumunity but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.
I love the HTC HD2, this is the one that started it all!
I think I'll wait some time to see how it goes with the Sensation or if HTC comes with something comparable or better for AT&T.
I was using HD2 for long time , energy roms then moved to android on HD2 , when i did try the android couldn't back again to the WM so i bought the sensation for smoother and more performance android, and hangs anymore