[Q] Should I upgrade my Hero, or replace it? - General Questions and Answers

The Question: Should I replace my Hero, or stick it out until my upgrade in January?
So, here's the story: I'm on Sprint and was previously using the Samsung Epic 4G (SPH-D700), rooted, running RandomROM Thunderhawk. Loved it, minus a very minor bug where the launcher would crash occasionally. My original had good battery life (10-12 hours typically), but my used replacement (original stolen) had noticeably worse, but barely acceptable battery life (~10%/hr with music, 8-10 hours typically under normal usage). My used replacement finally died, so I'm back on my old HTC Hero. The reasons why I liked the Hero was because of the battery life, durability, and Cyanogenmod. Other than that, nothing much to like about this aging phone. Performance is poor, even overclocked to 748MHz, too small for texting, and screen is battery hog. However, I discovered battery drains rather quickly while music playing, also about 10%/hr. Quite puzzling considering I've gotten 2 straight days of battery life with some light usage. I'm pretty sure it's because of the lack of NEON instruction set. And now my phone is starting to separate in half vertically, so it's not as durable. So now, there is nothing to like about my phone. I'm also not due for an upgrade until January 2013, money is tight, and no 4G LTE in my area. So, the newest phones are out of the question. With my run of bad luck with the Epic 4G I'm reluctant to buy another.
What I'm looking for:
Developer support (rootability/Custom Android ROMs)
4G (WiMAX preferred, no LTE in bay area. Sprint rep said until Jan 2013, but they've been wrong before)
Price (under $200 preferred, ok with used/refurb)
What I do:
Infrequent texting (usually a few/day, with occasional text-binges)
Occasional calls
MUSIC - and lots of it. Long commutes.
GPS Navigation
Movies/video.
Tethering (4G is a must)
Phones I'm considering and thoughts:
HTC Evo Design 4G (AKA Hero S) - I like the size, the price, and the hardware is acceptable, though slightly dated. My biggest issue is the non-existent developer support, especially considering I hate HTC Sense. Also heard about poor battery life.
HTC Evo 4G - It's a bit big, and I'm concerned about picture quality. This was the deciding factor when upgrading to the Epic 4G. Also not sure about the old Snapdragon SoC. Is it still adequate for a power user?
Samsung Epic 4G Touch (GS II, SPH-D710) - I don't like the size. Big for my hands, small for tablet-like use. It's also too expensive, even used, but not totally out of reach. I really like the display, excited about the current exynos SoC (blazing fast, even with stock, bloated software), and there is a lot of developer support.
Samsung Epic 4G (GS I, SPH-D700) - reluctant because of bad luck and feel the need to try another phone. Good size, good performance (could be better), and a lot of developer support. Wasn't a fan of battery, and concerned about aging SoC and limited RAM (384MB usable).
Recommendations? Experiences with these phones? Should I replace or stick it out with old Hero?
Thanks

Why not check out the HTC EVO 3D? you get those for around $150 used off of cowboom.com.
The 3D at least has a dual-core and an interesting camera.

Once you go with a large screen device , you wont look back. so I wont say size is a limiting option. Jan 2013?! How long is your contract? When did you buy it?
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dlmx said:
Why not check out the HTC EVO 3D? you get those for around $150 used off of cowboom.com.
The 3D at least has a dual-core and an interesting camera.
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Too good to be true. I can barely find a 1st gen Evo for $140. I'm guessing bad ESNs. Never heard of CowBoom...
olyloh6696 said:
Once you go with a large screen device , you wont look back. so I wont say size is a limiting option. Jan 2013?! How long is your contract? When did you buy it?
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I got screwed from the defunct Sprint Premier program. My yearly upgrade would have been March of this year. Now that I think about it, I did re-new a 2 year contract back in March 2011, which is when I got my original Epic 4G, so Jan 2013 isn't too bad. Still, as a tech geek, I need new tech a lot more frequently than bi-yearly. I'm definitely leaning towards the Epic 4G Touch GSII. If I can find it for about $200-$250, I'll probably snag it. But I can't seem to find one much cheaper than $300 used.

i have the htc evo 4g. i really like it. i replaced my hero with it.

I kinda abandoned this thread without any updates. Anywho, if anyone wants to know, I snagged an Evo 4G for about $130 a while back. I'm screwed out of ICS/JB because of the old snapdragon SoC, but that hasn't really stopped me from running unofficial CM9 nightlies.
This coming January, I have my eyes set for the Galaxy Note II.

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Nexus S or MyTouch 4G?

Im currently using a MyTouch 4G and my return period is about to end. On Dec 3. So i can't keep one and wait for the other.
Should i return it for a Nexus S, which is said to release on Dec 6, or should i keep it.
For this post im assuming the rumors of the Orion processor are true
I bet many of you have this question in mind,
A RAM-filled, Expresso Machine
-OR-
A Dual-Core, Stock God
The main reason im considering comparing the two is because the MyTouch has a very nice build quality, and the pics of the Nexus S suggest that it is a plasticy feel.
Some things i will lay out for you
Screen (Quality & Size)
Nexus > MyTouch
Overall Feel
Nexus < MyTouch
I would appreciate some advice, and thx in advanced
PS: Im waiting to root till i have made my decision
C.
put in a little O/T at work and have them both
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put in a little O/T at work and have them both
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If only i could
btw im a student, so studies first, then work
Based on the rumors, the Nexus S appears to be very similar to a Samsung Vibrant, except for the dual-core processor and vanilla Android. As a prior Vibrant owner (we all know about the Galaxy S fiasco), I won't be purchasing any more Samsung phones, regardless of what their specs are rumored to be. HTC, on the other hand, definitely makes solid phones. Even Motorola has produced some impressive offerings over the course of the year (Droid X, Droid 2).
If you're really considering the Nexus S, I highly suggest considering Samsung's reputation and basing your decision on their past missteps. After the disaster with Behold II and Galaxy S, what's to say they won't release another lemon?
kgbkny said:
Based on the rumors, the Nexus S appears to be very similar to a Samsung Vibrant, except for the dual-core processor and vanilla Android. As a prior Vibrant owner (we all know about the Galaxy S fiasco), I won't be purchasing any more Samsung phones, regardless of what their specs are rumored to be. HTC, on the other hand, definitely makes solid phones. Even Motorola has produced some impressive offerings over the course of the year (Droid X, Droid 2).
If you're really considering the Nexus S, I highly suggest considering Samsung's reputation and basing your decision on their past missteps. After the disaster with Behold II and Galaxy S, what's to say they won't release another lemon?
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Thx for this informative post.
This really is one thing i should consider
I like the MT4G, but it seems to be lacking dev support. I was not happy with the vibrant (lag, gps, battery life, etc.) therefore I have mixed feelings regarding the nexus s just and a little weary because samsung is making it.
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The MyTouch 4G has great hardware, but lacking the awesome dev support
I'm currently in the same dilemma. I've got until wednesday to remorse my mytouch out. So far, I've been quite happy with the mytouch. I feel like I'd be happy keeping this phone, but I also feel like I'll always be thinking "what if"in the back of my mind.
Anyway, I keep reading that the nexus s will only be sold in stores like best buy.. I'm sure it's too early to tell, but does anyone have any ideas as to how the pricing for the nexus will work.
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I'm in the same boat but my remorse period starts tomorrow.
I love this phone but I've yet to get one without some kind of minor or major defect.
My g1 was perfect, but returned four vibrants and on my fourth my touch. Despite that I think this is a much better phone.
I wish the phone had more dev support, I remember the vibrant ramping up much faster.
The hardware in the sammy should be great, but the bad gps in the galaxy s line scares me. I actually like slcd better for everyday stuff. Next to the my touch, I can really see the blue hue on the samoled screen and the screen door text kills my eyes. Plus, though the blacks are the best, I hate having to have everything black themed to get any battery life on it.
I would say screw waiting on the nexus, but the thought of that amazing hardware paired with google dev support is hard to pass up. It's hard too believe that it will suck since it will be a dev phone. I missed the nexus 1 boat last time. Probably means android will finally be optimized for samsung s guts, instead of just htc, and sammy reduced to brute forcing for performance.
Another thing that makes me want it is that it will be the first of the next gen of phones if it truly has orion in it. From what I read about it, might make tegra 2 obsolete before it comes out.
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i have had used a nexus one and that was the only reason i was comparing the nexus s. But ya like all of you have said earlier, samsung cant make 100% solid devices, but the quality of HTC devices r worth trusting
For me, it's all about connectivity... if the Nexus S doesn't have HSPA+, I'm keeping the MT4G.
Even if the no HSPA+ radio is true, I honestly don't see that being a deal-breaker. I live in an HSPA+ area and I average about 2.5-3mbps which is the exact same as a non HSPA+ T-Mo phone in the same area. The only difference is the non HSPA+ phones won't go above 7.2 mbps but so far neither can I so that's a non-issue for me.
Coming from an Evo, I agree with the comments about the dev scene being scarcer than other phones (but the few we do have are really stepping up).
I am taking the stance that I am keeping my MT4G thru remorse, and waiting to see what people's response to the Nexus S after its out for a couple weeks is. At that point I can still ebay/craigslist my MT4G for most of what it's worth right now anyway and get the Nexus S if it ends up being the end all be all.
At this point I would rather know I have a reliable, awesome phone that might be a tad light on the dev side than a potentially big samsung flop phone.
Zoltair Wright said:
For me, it's all about connectivity... if the Nexus S doesn't have HSPA+, I'm keeping the MT4G.
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Ditto.
I love this phone! Had the G1, skipped the G2 for this (wanted front cam).
I LOVE the build of this phone and hopefully the dev will come soon.
I think I'm going to stick with the MT4G.
I loved my nexus one!!!!! but i love my MT4G better cause of the front facing camara...but i did like the look and feel of the my samsung vibrant....so i just might have to go with the Nexus S.
Something to consider:
With all of the purported hardware improvements, and state-of-the-art inclusions, haven't they still seen fit to omit an led for notifications, and a trackball/track pad, for navigating through text and so forth?
It would be a shame if you had a Ferrari of a phone, that had to rely on NoLED to let you know when you had a missed call or text.
Just my .02
The Mytouch 4G is an excellent piece of hardware. I have good reception, no problems with the GPS, the screen is very responsive and the battery life is amazing. I could care less about Gingerbread too. What do you want with the newest Android version when your phone may have severe hardware flaws. I don't trust Samsung neither their hardware nor their software. I had an HTC N1 the newest android version couldn't help covering the several hardware flaws this device had. I am glad that I found a good piece of hardware.
Mine (MT4) is on the way and I am supposed to receive it in 2 days.
I go for MT4 this time because I need the trackpad and wifi calling, and I may get NS 3 months later.
Jayrod1980 said:
The hardware in the sammy should be great, but the bad gps in the galaxy s line scares me.
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It looks like the GPS issues were addressed:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/28/samsung-nexus-s-reappears-at-the-fcc-with-a-pair-of-new-antennas/
I think the Nexus S has enough potential that I would wait to see the end result before committing to the MT4G (or any other phone for that matter). You have to remember that Google is probably closely involved in the project which may result in more quality control than usual (see antenna replacement for example). I'm also intrigued by the Near Field Communication chip. If the Nexus S ends up living up to it's hype the dev support will probably be awesome. If it doesn't you can always go back to your phone of choice.
I ended up returning my MT4G before the end of my remorse period (which is 30 days if you buy it full price from a t-mobile store and not online). For those who can't go back to your old phones just remember that BestBuy and RadioShack both have 30 day return policies with no restocking fees
I will most likely get the Nexus S even though I've had the worse experience with Sammy and the Vibrant, simply because I cant say no to the 2nd generation, of the best phone ever made running on dual core.
I just ordered the MyTouch 4g today though, while I wait for reviews on the Nexus. I just had enough of this not so very MOD/DEV friendly phone they call the Vibrant. aka (My Piece of Shyet Phone) lol
Although I love the SAMOLED, the size, camera, and the look of the Vibrant. The software side, the random freezes and the need for Lag and GPS fix (That never really worked) just made it a BIG disappointment.
I know it might be wishful thinking with Sammy being the maker of the Nexus S, but since it will be a Google flagship device, I could only hope for better support and quicker updates than the Galaxy S series.
Kienz said:
Something to consider:
It would be a shame if you had a Ferrari of a phone, that had to rely on NoLED to let you know when you had a missed call or text.
Just my .02
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Maybe a little premature to assume this?

Nexus s or inspire??

Im using a nexus s right now. I love tthe screen on this phone and how snappy it is but I'm also on at&t. Meaning edge only. I could really care less about android 2.2 or 2.3 the thing I look for is screen quality and size. Next would be battery life. I came from an iPhone 4 and keep reverting back because of the battery life and network speed. Would you guys recommended an inspire over the nexus s? Is there anyone that has used the nexus s and iPhone 4 that can give me an unbiased opinion?
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Get it. this thing is snappy. Dont go by that crap about the processor being outdated. This thing flys. I have used my friends evo 4g, man this thing blows it away. I dont know if its the ram or the processor is tweaked up. having used a few android phones, I can say right out that this thing is snappy.
If you can live without a front facing camera I would say go for it.
I've used all the phones you mentioned and I actually own the inspire, iphone 4, and a captivate. The captivate is similar to the nexus s.
The screen size is great. It will be hard for me to move to anything less then 4.3in from now on. Clarity is also great and is on par with the iphone, but much better then the samsung AMOLED. Contrast is much better on the AMOLED, though. Blacks do not look..err.. as black like they do on an AMOLED screen, but color are definitely more accurate.
Battery life is decent considering the phone has a small battery. The iphone definitely takes the cake in this segment, but the inspire is much better then my captivate was.
Speeds are phenomenal. I'm seeing speeds close to 4000kbps and they are only going to increase as the months pass. The inspire definitely holds the edge over the other devices here.
In short, this phone rocks. It is definitely the best device you can purchase through at&t right now and with it being easy to root should be more popular then the motorola atrix. Get it! You won't be upset.
Battery life is NOT as good as an iphone4, dont get me wrong, it's close, but I do find myself having to throw it on the charger at work or charge on my 20 minute commute to get through a day. Thats actually my ONLY complaint about it. It's faster than an ip4, does more, feels better in the hand, build quality is just as good if not better, and due to the stupid design on the battery cover neither battery is removable. Just kidding, you can replace the battery on the inspire, but it is not the easiest thing in the world. Watched the ATT rep break 2 trying to sell me one.
I'd say go for the Inspire, however, I will tell you that an At&t band Nexus S just past through the FCC. There is no release date yet but you'll have that option soon.
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its not a nexus s its a galaxy S 2 and it will have dual core processor and a 4.3" screen. if your not in a hurry to jump on a phone then I would maybe see what that phone is like when released. If you are biting at the chomps to get a new phone then this phone is awesome.
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its not a nexus s its a galaxy S 2 and it will have dual core processor and a 4.3" screen. if your not in a hurry to jump on a phone then I would maybe see what that phone is like when released. If you are biting at the chomps to get a new phone then this phone is awesome.
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I agree completely.. I'm probably going to pick the Inspire 4G up no matter what, but the Galaxy S II, specs-wise is intriguing. There are 2 glaring issues with the GSII though
Made by Samsung
The OS won't even support dual core until at least April and youre looking at even longer for developers to take advantage. So real world improvements with the dual core are several months out AT LEAST, and even then its almost exclusively going to be games. Sending TXT, email, phone, browsing, heck even watching video, a Snapdragon/GPU combo is more than enough. So its like cruising your Corvette in a school zone for 6 months
bkeaver said:
its not a nexus s its a galaxy S 2 and it will have dual core processor and a 4.3" screen. if your not in a hurry to jump on a phone then I would maybe see what that phone is like when released. If you are biting at the chomps to get a new phone then this phone is awesome.
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I'm not talking about the Samsung Infuse. That's what your talking about. That is the Galaxy S 2. Engaged reported the other day about the Nexus S itself being passed through the FCC.
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Samsung is a joke in my opinion. They still have yet to release 2.2 for all their galaxy devices and keep coming out with the same galaxy devices, granted a couple extra inches added to the screen and newer versions(2.3) of touchwiz. Just my opinion again but wtf were they thinking releasing a vibrant on tmobile with a front facing camera and hspa???? Hello most vibrant owners have already made the mode themselves. Next post will be about their plastic=) Sorry but theyre a joke IMO right now
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I'm not talking about the Samsung Infuse. That's what your talking about. That is the Galaxy S 2. Engaged reported the other day about the Nexus S itself being passed through the FCC.
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the infuse is NOT the GalaxyS 2 the Infuse will have a 4.5" screen and have a single core 1.2 processor. the GalaxyS2 has a dual core 1 gig processor with a 4.3" display
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the infuse is NOT the GalaxyS 2 the Infuse will have a 4.5" screen and have a single core 1.2 processor. the GalaxyS2 has a dual core 1 gig processor with a 4.3" display
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That is true, however, the phone I am talking about is just a nexus s for at&t. No dual core processor etc. Here is the link http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-nexus-s-revisits-the-fcc-this-time-with-bands-for-atandt/
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If you use gps then HTC will murder Samsung in that respect. I feel like the Nexus S was a poor choice to be the next Nexus device. It's too similar to the Galaxy S devices that have been out for quite a while. I came from the iP4 and also have a Captivate. The Inspire is fast. Really fast. I haven't noticed any lag and that's one of my biggest things. Using the Captivate is torture and I have it rooted and running Cognition.
This or the Atrix are the only really solid choices on AT&T for the next few months. The Infuse will be typical Samsung. Screen will be pretty and it will be the last of the three phones mentioned to get Gingerbread or any other updates.
The Ip4 has the best battery life of any smartphone with a 1ghz cpu IMO. I have used every highend android phone that has come out, including recently the Desire Z, Nexus S, and now the Inspire. I will skip out on the ATT 3G version of the Nexus S because at $560 with tax, it just isn't worth it espeically with other "better" phones coming out that will be the same price in the up coming months. It a good chance that the SGS 2 will be about $500 to $600 espeically with the Atrix at $500
I like the Inspire because of it's screen size, and definitly the cost per performance of it, only $430 with tax outright from ATT. IMO I don't see paying $140ish more for a phone with similar performance, on the otherhand I think if the Inspire was $500, that would be too much for the hardware.
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The Ip4 has the best battery life of any smartphone with a 1ghz cpu IMO. I have used every highend android phone that has come out, including recently the Desire Z, Nexus S, and now the Inspire. I will skip out on the ATT 3G version of the Nexus S because at $560 with tax, it just isn't worth it espeically with other "better" phones coming out that will be the same price in the up coming months. It a good chance that the SGS 2 will be about $500 to $600 espeically with the Atrix at $500
I like the Inspire because of it's screen size, and definitly the cost per performance of it, only $430 with tax outright from ATT. IMO I don't see paying $140ish more for a phone with similar performance, on the otherhand I think if the Inspire was $500, that would be too much for the hardware.
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True but the iphone is not clocked at 1ghz. it is the same cpu as ipad but clocled slower from what I have read.
I know this thread is old but I thought this information might be helpful for people who are stuck buying older phones.
I have both the Nexus S i9020A and Inspire 4G at the moment and I have made the following observations.
The Inspire HSPA connection (3mbps) is far better than the Nexus S (1mbps).
SMS fail to go through on the Nexus frequently.
Both phones are running 4.2.2 ROMs. The Inspire is far more responsive probably due to it's memory advantage over the Nexus.
The Inspire screen is larger and easier to type on and read. The colors are also more subtle and easy on the eyes.
The Nexus S screen has deeper colors but the default color profile makes the whites look yellow. Also, the pentile matrix is obvious and hard to look at.
Battery life is much better on the Inspire with 2 days of standby with WIFI, GPS, and HSPA/3G. Nexus S can only go about 12 hours with the same configuration.
The Nexus S is lighter but feels a bit more fragile.
The Nexus S is picky about which USB cables it will work with.
The Inspire camera can take finer quality pictures than the Nexus S camera.
The Nexus S is stuck with 16GB of storage while the Inspire is expanded to 32GB.
FWIW I'm on Straight Talk AT&T SIM
I own both. neither are on a mobile network, NS used to be, call quality was great. However, I literally got the Infuse about 30 minutes ago so I'm doing what I can with it to see how it is. It's pissin me off I can't get system updates bc of no SIM. I think I'm gonna work on something to put my Bionic SIM in it. I'll let you know a fair comparison of the two. so far, both, look awesome, feel awesome, both are snappy. NS4G has TONS of support, I'm about to see what that's like here for the Infuse, thats what I was coming to do when I stumbled across this. I'll post updates.
UPDATE: Already, when playing various games, I notice that the touch response on the Inspire is not nearly as sensitive as the Nexus, that's one reason I love my Nexus, is the intense screen sensitivity and of course, the screen in general. the AMOLED is amazing.

Any1 upgrade from Incredible?

Hey guys,
Currently have the incredible and love it but I need a bigger screen. Im due for an upgrade and like the charge. Would Anyone who upgraded to it from an incredible be down to post their experiences?
Thanks,
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bigsapz said:
Hey guys,
Currently have the incredible and love it but I need a bigger screen. Im due for an upgrade and like the charge. Would Anyone who upgraded to it from an incredible be down to post their experiences?
Thanks,
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It depends on you want. There is not nearly the amount of roms to choose from as there is for the DInc, but the ones we do have are great. If I had an upgrade, and was in your situation, I'd wait for the SGS2 or HTC Vigor. The Charge is a great phone but I wouldn't use an upgrade on it considering what is coming in the near future. Just my opinion though.
I did this in a roundabout way in that I used the Incredible for a year before getting my Charge, but I didn't use an upgrade (one of my kids had the Fascinate, but since he doesn't live in a 4G coverage area, I replaced his Fascinate with my Incredible and appropriated the Charge). I can say that I'm much happier with the phone having gotten it for free than I would be if I had paid for it, but overall quite pleased.
The Charge has has better:
-Battery life (by around 40%)
-Screen (I had both the SLCD and OLED DIncs- SAMOLED+ blows both away)
-Usability (screen size is much better for typing accuracy)
-Multimedia experience- SGX540 trounces the rather dated Adreno200
-Audio quality- especially with Voodoo Sound
-Bootloader design- ODIN mode is great for recovering from ****ups
Things that really don't impact my opinion
-4G is incredible in theory- in practice, Google Music and Netflix could both stream just fine over good old EV-DO RevA, and for anything else I need to download I have home wifi and 25Mbit Comcast Xfinity, so it's still sort of unnecessary. It is cool to be able to say my phone has a faster broadband connection than my home.... I'm regularly seeing 30mbit down/6 up. I'm not using it as a hotspot as I don't feel like either shelling out or risking my service, and I will say that I'm using 3-4x the data on LTE than I did over 3G, with better battery life as previously mentioned.
-Overall usability- the Hummingbird is a tad quicker than the Snapdragon, but overall I always found the DInc to be a quite responsive phone- no problems with either
-Call quality- though the Charge has a dual mic setup, they both sound the same on my end. Hard to find fault with Verizon.
Things that I still have to hand to the Incredible
-I have the Charge in an Otterbox Commuter to protect its incredibly vulnerable back shell. While this gives it a great solid feel in the hand, it also makes it a bit on the difficult side to slide in and out of pockets. The DInc was a very convenient size.
-ROM selection is way better for the DInc- though, let's be honest, I didn't care about anything else once CM7 for DInc was out. Here's hoping it hits the Charge soon.
Final thoughts- rumor has it the Bionic could be out within a week, but even if that's premature it's certainly not more than a month away. The Galaxy S2 and HTC Vigor are also both right around the corner. The Charge is about to be replaced as a flagship model. My approval of it is tempered by the fact that I got it for free. You may want to hold off a bit.
I came from the Droid incredible as well and echo the posts above. The charge is an upgrade but at this point just wait for gs2, vigor, or nexus.
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I came from the Dinc which I treasured. The dev community was awesome for the Dinc but I love eclipse.
Not sure why you would wait for the sgs2, it may not have 4G.
And the Bionic is just a bigger droid 3 with 4G. Of course to each his own, and I personally saw the samoled+ and just had to have it. I could have waited for the bionic or sgs2 but why? Whatever phone you get, im sure you will love. Afterall, they all do just about the same thing.
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I upgraded from the Dinc a couple of months ago and I'm semi happy with my upgrade. The 2 main reasons to upgrade to this phone are the screen and 4G. I guess it depends how important those two things are to you. All the phones coming out in the next couple of months will probably have those two things AND have upgraded processors, RAM, etc. So if I were in your shoes, I would wait a couple of months to see what else is coming out.
I came from the Incredible and am in love with mCharge. Has the hardkey buttons and 4g. Plus the screen it was everything I wanted. Before I got the Charge I was considering waiting on the Bionic but I personally am happy with the choice I made.
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MillionManMosh said:
I did this in a roundabout way in that I used the Incredible for a year before getting my Charge, but I didn't use an upgrade (one of my kids had the Fascinate, but since he doesn't live in a 4G coverage area, I replaced his Fascinate with my Incredible and appropriated the Charge). I can say that I'm much happier with the phone having gotten it for free than I would be if I had paid for it, but overall quite pleased.
The Charge has has better:
-Battery life (by around 40%)
-Screen (I had both the SLCD and OLED DIncs- SAMOLED+ blows both away)
-Usability (screen size is much better for typing accuracy)
-Multimedia experience- SGX540 trounces the rather dated Adreno200
-Audio quality- especially with Voodoo Sound
-Bootloader design- ODIN mode is great for recovering from ****ups
Things that really don't impact my opinion
-4G is incredible in theory- in practice, Google Music and Netflix could both stream just fine over good old EV-DO RevA, and for anything else I need to download I have home wifi and 25Mbit Comcast Xfinity, so it's still sort of unnecessary. It is cool to be able to say my phone has a faster broadband connection than my home.... I'm regularly seeing 30mbit down/6 up. I'm not using it as a hotspot as I don't feel like either shelling out or risking my service, and I will say that I'm using 3-4x the data on LTE than I did over 3G, with better battery life as previously mentioned.
-Overall usability- the Hummingbird is a tad quicker than the Snapdragon, but overall I always found the DInc to be a quite responsive phone- no problems with either
-Call quality- though the Charge has a dual mic setup, they both sound the same on my end. Hard to find fault with Verizon.
Things that I still have to hand to the Incredible
-I have the Charge in an Otterbox Commuter to protect its incredibly vulnerable back shell. While this gives it a great solid feel in the hand, it also makes it a bit on the difficult side to slide in and out of pockets. The DInc was a very convenient size.
-ROM selection is way better for the DInc- though, let's be honest, I didn't care about anything else once CM7 for DInc was out. Here's hoping it hits the Charge soon.
Final thoughts- rumor has it the Bionic could be out within a week, but even if that's premature it's certainly not more than a month away. The Galaxy S2 and HTC Vigor are also both right around the corner. The Charge is about to be replaced as a flagship model. My approval of it is tempered by the fact that I got it for free. You may want to hold off a bit.
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I came from the Incredible as well, and I echo everything this guy said. Although I did pay for the phone instead of free (lucky guy lol) I feel like it was worth it. I still use my Incredible (deactivated, but still works on wifi) just for random games and testing out custom roms because we all know the Inc has some great developers. Charge development is looking great too though and I can't wait to see the likes of CM7, MIUI, etc on this phone. It's not perfect, but if you convert from RFS to EXT4 it's really close.
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bigsapz said:
Hey guys,
Currently have the incredible and love it but I need a bigger screen. Im due for an upgrade and like the charge. Would Anyone who upgraded to it from an incredible be down to post their experiences?
Thanks,
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I echo all the "good" comments as I came from the DINC a month or so ago. The only thing I miss is the LED that the "DINC used for letting you know it's charging. The Charge experience is a little different than the HTC experience but it just lets you know what else is out there.
I would hold out for the Bionic. I upgraded from Dinc to Charge because Verizon was changing their unlimited tier plans and I was afraid of missing the boat so I used my upgrade to lock myself in. The Charge was the best at the time but if you can wait until the Bionic comes out 9/8-ish I would. Dual core, 4G, 4.3 inch screen plus the ability to use the Motorola dock/laptop thingy (if you're interested) is a def plus. I can't remember RAM and storage specs but I think they beat the Charge as well.
One thing I did notice coming from Dinc to Charge was the snappiness of the ROMs. Once lagfix was enabled though it was pretty hard to distinguish the difference.
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I would hold out for the Bionic. I upgraded from Dinc to Charge because Verizon was changing their unlimited tier plans and I was afraid of missing the boat so I used my upgrade to lock myself in.
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You do realize if you were already on an unlimited data plan, you were locked in?
Anyway to the OP. I came from the Fascinate to the Charge. I got in on the free exchange. The Charge is a great phone. I would say it's a Fascinate 2. I don't think I would have used (wasted) an upgrade on this phone. I think it's best to see what the Bionic, Vigor, SGS2 & iPhone 5 bring to the table. This is especially true when you consider Verizon did away with 1 year contracts.
On a side note, my daughter has a Dinc. She absolutely refuses to upgrade her phone. She says it's simply "Incredible". Lol.

For all of us coming from the Rezound..HTCs new Quadcore

If this thing is real, wow.... hope I can pull 500 for the s3 on ebay
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/ph...e-1080p-smartphone-leaked-for-verizon-1088987
updated info (09-07)
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTCs-monster-1080p-mystery-device-gets-Bluetooth-certified_id34222
and another (09-04)
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57505476-85/leaked-htc-phone-could-flaunt-1080p-hd-display/
A new HTC smartphone has been revealed via GLBenchmark, a well-known site for device benchmarking.
The mystery device appears to be headed to Verizon to connect with the carrier's 4G LTE network.
More importantly, it packs a full-HD 1080p display and a new quad-core Snapdragon CPU capable of speeds that have never been achieved by the existing S4.
What is the DLX?
According to the GLBenchmark report, the new HTC phone could carry the code name "DLX."
Based on its model number HTC6435, though, it's likely to be a successor to the Verizon HTC Rezound model number HTC6425.
The Rezound was one of the first HTC smartphones with an HD display, so a follow-up with a full 1080p screen would be appropriate.
In fact, the HTC DLX (if that is its name) is equipped with a 1794x1080 display that - even if it includes space for on-screen buttons like other Android devices - could prove dazzling.
Besides the impressive screen resolution, the HTC DLX is powered by a quad core Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 chip with an Adreno 320 GPU, clocking in at 1.5 GHz, but this doesn't appear to be the standard S4 present in many other smartphones.
One source speculates that the new HTC Verizon phone could even be equipped with the new S4 MSM8960T chip due to the considerable power it displayed in Benchmark tests.
In the Egypt off-screen and pro off-screen tests, it scored well over 100 (121.1 and 110.5 FPS respectively), numbers that other phones can't come close to.
The new HTC DLX for Verizon and possible Rezound successor runs Android 4.0.4, according to the benchmark reports, and along with the gorgeous screen and impressive quad-core processor, those are all the known details.
Watch out for more updates on the mystery HTC Verizon phone as the companies prepare to reveal whatever it is.
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That's the S4 Pro. There's always something better coming, if you're happy with your phone there's no reason to sell it
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That's the S4 Pro. There's always something better coming, if you're happy with your phone there's no reason to sell it
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Im always getting the newest phone. I love the s3, but im one of those "got to have the newest phone" guys. I find that its much easier to keep on top of the current tech if you are constantly switching out devices, of you wait a year, or 2 years, your device is worth nothing, and upgrading is expensive. I almost always make money when changing phones out.. so. ya.
anyway,
you are saying that article is about the galaxy s4? not the HTC?
nm, google is my friend.
Ironically, I'm kinda with you on that one. I usually have about a 3-6 month turn around on my phones. I don't mind having middle of the line or bottom of the line, but having SECOND frome top just makes me want the one on top that much more.
If that bootloader gets unlocked and the battery doesn't suck... I'll bite. This gs3 was a penny for me.
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If that bootloader gets unlocked and the battery doesn't suck... I'll bite.
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I agree 100%
If it's unlocked s3 is gone in a heartbeat!!! Sense and quad core speed and hopefully 2 gb of ram this thing will blow s3 out of water!!
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I'm done with HTC phones. Never again. And I'm sick of having the newest toy. The GS3 with CM10 is the happiest I've ever been using a phone.
Htc needs to step up their overall build quality and batteries before ill consider another one of their phones.
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Htc needs to step up their overall build quality and batteries before ill consider another one of their phones.
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Really? HTC phones have always seemed much more solid devices to me. The s3 is plastic thin and cheap feeling. (it doesn't look cheap, just feels like it) the rezound feels like a solid chunk of phone.
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Really? HTC phones have always seemed much more solid devices to me. The s3 is plastic thin and cheap feeling. (it doesn't look cheap, just feels like it) the rezound feels like a solid chunk of phone.
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Yeah, it's a chunk of phone. As in, a brick. With a creaky plastic battery door, godawful flush buttons, dismal battery life, and a terrible update track record. Nice screen and camera though. I've owned 4 HTC phones (HTC Touch, Eris, Thunderbolt, Rezound) and they've all had certain advantages, and they've all had such enormous problems that I'm just not interested anymore--HTC is off the trusted list until they get their sh*t together with updates and kernel sources. And Sense just straight-up sucks. I don't love Touchwiz either, but at least it's footprint isn't so heavy.
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Yeah, it's a chunk of phone. As in, a brick. With a creaky plastic battery door, godawful flush buttons, dismal battery life, and a terrible update track record. Nice screen and camera though. I've owned 4 HTC phones (HTC Touch, Eris, Thunderbolt, Rezound) and they've all had certain advantages, and they've all had such enormous problems that I'm just not interested anymore--HTC is off the trusted list until they get their sh*t together with updates and kernel sources. And Sense just straight-up sucks. I don't love Touchwiz either, but at least it's footprint isn't so heavy.
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Ya, there seem to be people on both sides. much like ford vs chevy. I personally think the build quality of HTC is incredible, i love the flush buttons, the red glow, seemed like a very fine and quality slab of technology. I think sense is amazing, sense 4.5 is incredible. The radios on HTC phones are top notch, my wife still has her rezound and she always has 4g where I don't. Our house has very poor 4g service, my s3 cannot hold a data connection at all. We use our phones to tether our laptops (we dont pay for cable.. ) and after switching from the rezound to the s3, I can no longer tether reliably. When its getting its 1 bar of 4g, it works fine, but after a few min it drops to 3g or 1x or nothing at all, I spend more time fiddling with airplane mode to try and get 4g back then I do getting any work done. So I have had to use her phones wifi tether to get anything important done.
The GPS on the s3 works kinda. We were in San Francisco a few weeks ago, I have a mount on my dash that holds my phone (not a dock, just an adjustable mount) and my phone is always in it for navigation. We had to swap phones because the s3 kept dropping the gps lock, and telling me to turn on streets that were either not near me, or in the wrong direction because the phone though I was pointing a differnt direction than I was, or that I was not moving when I was. Put her rezound in there and it worked flawlessly, even on the lower deck of the bay bridge.
Don't get me wrong, I think the s3 is a great device, (which is why I own one) But I also switch phones A LOT. I have had almost every flagship device on VZW. My experience overall with quality and reliability have always been HTC, where I think samsung always wins in the sexiness department.
At the end of the day, I jsut want my phone to work when I need it to work, being in a big city and needing to get from point A to point B, and having your 600 dollar device fail to provide that basic functionality in a reliable manner is something I have come to expect from Samsung.
I have had the all of the major Samsung devices on VZW, and all of the HTC phones. My opinion is based on using those phones every day while I had them.. just this last year alone (since sep last year) I have had the incredible 2, droid charge, rezound, nexus, and s3, and soon the new HTC.. I am the only one I know who gets a new phone ever 2 months or so
Isn't that artical quite a bit old? If we haven't seen anything more current about it i doubt its real. Either way there is no way i could afford to upgrade again.
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Isn't that artical quite a bit old? If we haven't seen anything more current about it i doubt its real. Either way there is no way i could afford to upgrade again.
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ya it is..
here ya go!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTCs-monster-1080p-mystery-device-gets-Bluetooth-certified_id34222
After having burned through 16 replacement rezounds I think I'll stick with Samsung for a while...
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After having burned through 16 replacement rezounds I think I'll stick with Samsung for a while...
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That sucks.. Depending on when you got the phone and when you got the s3.. Isn't that 1 phone every week? Factor in shipping time.. You would have had to be calling to get a replacement every 4 to 5 days since you purchased the original phone..
I smell bs
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That sucks.. Depending on when you got the phone and when you got the s3.. Isn't that 1 phone every week? Factor in shipping time.. You would have had to be calling to get a replacement every 4 to 5 days since you purchased the original phone..
I smell bs
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I had like 6. And how can you factor in anything if you don't know his circumstances? I had two phones that had issues right away. from them and they overnight my phones to me every time.
GS3
I prefer samsung and I'm so happy with the SIII, most probably i'll just wait till the S IV is out
True story, but it was two of my lines that both had rezounds. I bought them both back in November and had nonstop issues out the gate. Eventually I was able to convince Verizon to upgrade me to the gs3 though.
Edit: when I say I... I really mean my wife! I LOL
Here's my thread on it if you want more detail.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833875
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Ive always been a huge fan of Motorola phones. I got a Fascinate for my mom, but kept it till my Droid X came in. Samsung impressed me back then. I took a leap of faith on the S3 and I'm loving every minute of it. But with HTCs piss poor track record *ahem Thunderbolt, Rezound* pre-ordering that would be like jumping off a cliff. I'm still waiting for Moto's next big thing, but as good as the S3 has been... I might give the Moto to mommy

Still a good phone to buy?

Looking to get new phone. Options are SGS2, Sensation 4g or LG Optimus L9. Buying used, shooting for the galaxy first but is the sensation a good fa back? Hoping to get something that could last me a year if I don't get the next IPhone. I know, bad word sorry. Ill get the soap
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still is a good phone. I have chosen the Sensation over the used SGS2 and Iphone 4 last xmas.
I think its still good but i would personally would choose a gs2 over this phone reasons arent many though i would because i need a bigger screen for my thumbs, its actually a little faster than sensation and i can make it look like a galaxy s3,,, downside is that screen is lower than the sensation, build quality feels cheaper, camera seems better on sensation.... over all gs2 will win with speed, buy a case for your phone makes it feel better, camera is still good and lets be real we dont use all the roms out there so we just need a few developers that can work on a few roms like cm10.1, the gs3 rom that works on s2, and it is a great phone if u dont wanna spend on an s3 since the s4 is right around the corner
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Sensation all the way! I think it's still a great phone, although the S2 is getting an official JB update.
I don't need official jelly or ice cream or kitkat. Ill put a custom rom on whatever i buy, offical roms tend to get bogged down with bloat and take forever to come out.Yea IDk about the s4 even, that would be like 600 dollars and in 6 months I won't have that so I'll stay under 300. If i could i'd be getting the nexus but just low supply and just over my budget. Want a good camera, speedy enough to play a handful of games, not going to tackle GTA, stuff like cut the rope, angry birds or songpop. I casual game on phones, got a console for hardcore gaming.part of me likes to tinker with all the roms and stuff but a bigger part of me is annoyed at that and would just like a stress free phone but I have to deal with it for now
I miss flip phones they never broke down at least not any of the ones i ever owned... remember when a phone was for phone calls and text and the sometimes web browsing for myspace or google
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I recently bought my Sensation XE for £130. The way I looked at it is that it is not worth spending more than £150 on a second hand phone because the Nexus 4 is only £240. The SGS2 at the time was selling for about £190 second hand. So I decided to save some money and have a play with the sensation.
I've found that premium accessories for the sensation are very cheap when compared to the SGS2. I guess they are trying to flush out stock for the sensation as the SGS2 is still available new.
Rom development on cyanogenmod is a bit further behind on the sensation if that is important to you. There is a wealth of roms to play with on the sensation and that situation should get even more interesting with the asian htc one s recently getting updated to jelly bean. The ICS roms work the best so far but JB 4.1 roms are solid for use. JB 4.2 is on the horizon.
I can't say which phone is better but the sensation is not bad.
Hope this helps.
yea i think that does help. I may just save some coin and go with the sensation.guess If it last 9-10 months, I can look at my options then.
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I was doubting between sg2 and sensation over a year ago. Still regret my choise (going for sensation).
well here's what I'm looking at. galaxy is 244, and the price fluctuates a bit. the sensation is 178. I want to shoot for the galaxy but I would like to save the 66 bucks, but I think what if I need to stay with the phone I get for a year, what will hold up best in terms of use. I want it to be speedy, doesn't have to be quad core speedy but I'd like it to not hang when I select and app or unlock the screen. 3g, 4g doesn't matter, as long as its decently fast to stream Pandora. If i do any uploading of vids it'll be on wifi mainly. Think screen washout in sunlight and camera quality both front and rear are my big concern. I have read some issues with gs2 getting bootloops without being rooted or rom-ed, i also worry about scratches on the glass buying used. guess my worries are the same as buying a car. want it to get me through without worry but not cost me my life savings (or lack of),
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well here's what I'm looking at. galaxy is 244, and the price fluctuates a bit. the sensation is 178. I want to shoot for the galaxy but I would like to save the 66 bucks, but I think what if I need to stay with the phone I get for a year, what will hold up best in terms of use. I want it to be speedy, doesn't have to be quad core speedy but I'd like it to not hang when I select and app or unlock the screen. 3g, 4g doesn't matter, as long as its decently fast to stream Pandora. If i do any uploading of vids it'll be on wifi mainly. Think screen washout in sunlight and camera quality both front and rear are my big concern. I have read some issues with gs2 getting bootloops without being rooted or rom-ed, i also worry about scratches on the glass buying used. guess my worries are the same as buying a car. want it to get me through without worry but not cost me my life savings (or lack of),
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I have the sensation, wife has the s2. She likes it, I don't. I like mine, she don't
I was thinking of getting a Nexus 4 recently mine was doing some random **** (slow, homescreen reloads etc). Not really anything huge just annoying. But after thinking about it, I couldn't afford to drop that kind of money on a phone when I could be putting it towards other stuff.
I was wanting to root it for ages so finally did it. It improved a crap load! I did notice my battery wasn't really lasting through the day though. Again, I wanted to get a decent one for a while so I thought, new battery = cheap "new" phone.
It's working a treat.
The wife is starting to get annoyed with the s2 now as well - can't help with the specifics but I think it's just doing little annoying things as well.
We've both had ours for over 2 years. They're both running strong but after giving the sensation a freshen up, it's got a new lease on life. I think if you rooted etc the s2 you'll get similar results.
Personally, if you're looking at saving money and only want it to last a year - Sensation. I don't think it'll be that much slower than the s2 (in fact I think mine is faster than the wife's). And you can put the $60 towards the new beast. I really don't think the s2 is $60 better.
The Sensation has a terrible battery life. Stay away!
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The Sensation has a terrible battery life. Stay away!
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Actually mine is pretty good !
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lg 9
No one has talked about the lg 9 I would suggest looking at reviews and the forums here. I've played with it. It was nice, not too cheap feeling. Pretty snappy, but it was new and few apps installed. The camera has never impressed me on m sensation. The lg is only a five mega pixel so I would guess they saved money here, though tmobile is offering it for around 200 new,
it still is a pretty good phone, and running pretty smooth with a custom rom
I have a sensation 4g (lot of battery drain) but I have a new battery that is 1900mAh.
With custom rom, its blazing fast. But i'd recommend SG2 anyway because I'm korean.
Will you be tethering or otherwise requiring faster data? SGSII is HSPA+42. Sensation is HSPA14.
For me, the difference at home is 2-3mbps vs 7-11mbps, and in the city, can be 4-6mbps vs 12-18mbps.
Still a good phone but with a reasonable price, or I'll save more for a Nexus 4
no tethering. Nexus 4 would be nice if there it wasn't sold out and I had another 100 bucks for it
bought the S2

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