[Q] LTE, the US, and SoC's - Android General

Just wondering, but why are a bunch of phones (like the One X, and possibly the Galaxy S3) with LTE versions for the US using different SoC's? For example the international One X uses the Tegra 3 but the AT&T version uses the Snapdragon S4. Why doesn't the US version just keep the Tegra 3?

tehh4ck3r said:
Just wondering, but why are a bunch of phones (like the One X, and possibly the Galaxy S3) with LTE versions for the US using different SoC's? For example the international One X uses the Tegra 3 but the AT&T version uses the Snapdragon S4. Why doesn't the US version just keep the Tegra 3?
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Something to do with the Tegra 3 not being compatible with an LTE chip? I think the carriers want a chipset that has integrated LTE. Not entirely sure why.

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Which Galaxy S 2?

There are so many versions to choose from.
I am looking for the one with the fastest GPU and that can work on GSM networks.
From what I can see, T-Mobile version has a dual core 1.5 ghz.
What advice can you give me?
I am looking for a beefier batterry as well
It would depend on who you're carrier is I would assume. If you're within the States and you have Sprint you're stuck with their version, obviously. If you're outside the States, I would take the T-Mobile version. 1.5Ghz as opposed to 1.2GHz and the battery of the tmobile version is 1850mAh as opposed to 1650mAh...but I would think you can get extended batteries and backs for either s2.
Depends which carrier. If you're on T-Mobile US you have to get the T-Mobile version because the other ones don't support it's 3G bands.
If you're on AT&T you can either get the international version, or the AT&T branded version, or the Skyrocket, or the Skyrocket HD, etc.. All models are effectively the same. The T-Mobile version has a "faster" CPU clock speed wise, but it benchmarks much lower than the international GSM version with Exynos in it.
Here's the phone arena listing for all the models: http://www.phonearena.com/search/section/new-phones/term/Galaxy+S+II
They're all effectively the same inside. The differences are that 1) some have LTE and 2) some have an HD screen (but are more expensive). If you want the most basic, cheapest, model then get the i9100 version. That's the original unlocked model. You'll run on AT&T fine and its been out the longest.
In the screenshot, I've highlighted the AT&T capable models in Blue, T-Mobile in Pink, and Sprint in Yellow.
^ now thats how you answer a question lol
I am on GSM. Vodafone to be exact. From what I can see I can't see anything on sale rather than the i9100 version, being in europe.
I have later seen the Skyrocket and tmobile version. Why do they score lower? THey have the higher clock speed and the adreno 220 that according to benchmarks wipes the floor with any exynos or mali on other s2's.
nemuro said:
I am on GSM. Vodafone to be exact. From what I can see I can't see anything on sale rather than the i9100 version, being in europe.
I have later seen the Skyrocket and tmobile version. Why do they score lower? THey have the higher clock speed and the adreno 220 that according to benchmarks wipes the floor with any exynos or mali on other s2's.
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The exynos processor alone rapes the snapdragons (especially just looking at benchmarks), which is what the 42mbps HSPA+ (T-Mo) and LTE (Skyrocket) versions have in order to support those radios. Exynos has limited radio support so that's why you only see it in the basic 850/1900 GSM devices, like the i9100 and base AT&T model.
If you're in Europe you have no need for LTE, so just check the i9100 it'll have the lowest price in that area. The T-Mo version won't work for you (wrong frequencies unless you do some hackery) and the SII HD isn't really available yet. And at that point you might as well just buy a Galaxy Nexus.
Yes, it has the lowest price but I was fooled by the ghz. Thanks for the heads up.
If you're still here and you talk so well about sgs2 why did you get a nexus?

[Q] What's the differenece between the AT&T and [Non-AT&T]One X?

Anyone?
Well are you talking about the international One X or like the rogers? The AT&T version only has 16gb of storage versus the 32 on international but it does have LTE which isn't on the international version. The only other real difference im aware of is the use of the snapdragon S4 as opposed to the tegra 3 on international models.
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cloudraker said:
Well are you talking about the international One X or like the rogers? The AT&T version only has 16gb of storage versus the 32 on international but it does have LTE which isn't on the international version. The only other real difference im aware of is the use of the snapdragon S4 as opposed to the tegra 3 on international models.
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lol. Righty. "The only other difference is that the processor is completely different"
Thanks
When you say " the "rogers" what is that? I just mean there are two sections - one for AT&T One X and one for One X.
What's LTE anyhow?
Supaiku said:
lol. Righty. "The only other difference is that the processor is completely different"
Thanks
When you say " the "rogers" what is that? I just mean there are two sections - one for AT&T One X and one for One X.
What's LTE anyhow?
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Big question, is what country are you located, and who is your carrier?
LTE = long term evolution. Its AT&T's new 4G data network. Its not rolled out in many places yet (maybe 20 or so cities nationwide? More cities on the way). If you are an AT&T customer, and in a LTE market, you may see download speeds of up to 25 or 30 Mbps, which is possibly 10x faster than 3G (although results will vary widely for any data connection). If this applies to you, than this can obviously be a big motivator to get the AT&T version.
Different processor, and completely different SOC (system on a chip), so that also means different GPU. The S4 is faster in many benchmarks, while the Tegra 3 wins in some, and probably not a huge difference on the whole. But the Tegra3 (international) version seems to be having some graphical and other glitches related to the Tegra drivers, that might not be sorted out for a while. Also, its probably a bit early to say for sure, but battery life seems to be better on the AT&T (S4) version based on early reports.
The international version is probably going to see more users worldwide, and therefore get more dev support. Already lots of custom ROMs for the international version. And the different CPU means that ROMs will not be automatically compatible between the 2 versions (although its possible some devs may be able to port between the 2 . . . still to early to say). But I'm still hoping for dev support for the AT&T version to be decent.
Also, the AT&T version has their typical branding (splash screen, logos, etc.) and bloatware.
Rogers is a Canadian carrier. The Rogers One X is nearly identical to the AT&T version.
Supaiku said:
lol. Righty. "The only other difference is that the processor is completely different"
Thanks
When you say " the "rogers" what is that? I just mean there are two sections - one for AT&T One X and one for One X.
What's LTE anyhow?
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Rogers is a phone service in Canada. LTE stands for long term evolution and it is true 4g speed, it's data only at the moment, and it's considerably faster than 3G internet or Hspa+ which AT&T has called 4g, but it's just really fast 3G. But in the end 4G LTE is faster.
Thanks for clearing all that up!
vioalas said:
Rogers is a phone service in Canada. LTE stands for long term evolution and it is true 4g speed, it's data only at the moment, and it's considerably faster than 3G internet or Hspa+ which AT&T has called 4g, but it's just really fast 4G. But in the end 4G LTE is faster.
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Unfortunately, the definition of 4G has been blurred and revised to include HSPA+. But while LTE is obviously much faster than HSPA+; LTE doesn't even come close to fulfilling the original 4G requirements, which specify a peak download speed of 1 Gbit/sec.
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Unfortunately, the definition of 4G has been blurred and revised to include HSPA+. But while LTE is obviously much faster than HSPA+; LTE doesn't even come close to fulfilling the original 4G requirements, which specify a peak download speed of 1 Gbit/sec.
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This is true, and I just realized I called HSPA+ fast 4g, lol. I meant 3g

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Should I get Droid Incredible 4G LTE or Galaxy S III?
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If you have the choice, go with the S3. It has an enormous developer community, and it's one of the (arguably the) best smartphones on the market.
That said, there are several different models of the S3 to choose from. The US variants have dual core processors and 2 GB of RAM. The international variant has a quad core Exynos processor and 1 GB of RAM. Given the option, try to get your hands on the Korean variant, which has the best of both worlds. Quad core Exynos processor and 2 GB of RAM.

How to tell if your S3 is genuine?

I know there are a lot of knock off brands for the S3 - how can you tell 100% to be sure its genuine Samsung (If it bought from ebay or some other method rather than paying $800 for a phone that should cost $300) *flamesuiton*
Make sure the seller isnt in China. Do that and you are pretty much golden
The quality. Especially the screen. It's hard to accurately fake a high end phone.
And the quad core international version would only work on HSPA+ / GSM networks in the US correct? I'm on Verizon and trying to find the quad core LTE version but it looks like it doesn't exist.
enkrypt3d said:
And the quad core international version would only work on HSPA+ / GSM networks in the US correct? I'm on Verizon and trying to find the quad core LTE version but it looks like it doesn't exist.
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This is correct. There was a quad core LTE GS3 in Korea but I believe that was also for HSPA+/GSM networks.

[Q] Is the Exynos Galaxy SIV LTE?

Hi,
I am wondering if firstly the Exynos 5410 Octa version of the Galaxy SIV is LTE compatible. The only reason I would get the Galaxy S4 is if it has the SGX544MP3 (I want to have graphics performance future proofing) and if the UK will not get that model on LTE I will probaly get the HTC One or the Xperia Z. Please help!
Thankyou
I heard both the US and global versions are gonna be LTE capable ( even if they come with different cpu).
So i guess it's gonna be LTE capable all around the globe even in the UK.
Yes theyre both LTE its just the Exynos wont be available in N.A. due to unsupported bands on that model. Shame really.
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Just a heads up. Future proof in android is a myth
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