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[POLL] [REQUEST] AOSP ROM / MIUI ROM for our Sensation

Hey guys,
I know that developing is in its early stages (doh, it came out yesterday haha), but I just wanted to let our beloved devs that we really really want to have a rom that is AOSP. Sense is a good eye candy, but I am sure that there are many of us in here that would like to get the maximum out of this beast of ours, and I think that AOSP android would give us all that.
Either that, or MIUI ROM - just something different than the Sense 3.0
I am also including a poll - to see if its just me with the desire of getting a non-sense rom ( and by that I mean AOSP, not just removed htc.sense and adding launcher pro ).
I love CyanogenMod as much as the next guy, but I remember that on my MT4G - the AOSP version used to run even better than the cm7.
I kinda liked Sense once I got it, but now I am getting tired of it - its just too much! I want a plain phone, that works like the hardware was meant to be.

I'm waiting for CM7

+1! would absolutely LOVE to see miui on my sensation!

I'm waiting for any ROM that is AOSP or atleast something different from sense.
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MIUI would be wonderful!

I don't get the hype for MIUI. I have only seen it in videos but it looks pretty ugly to me. Why would you want to trade in Android OS for an iPhone wannabe?

I like MIUI because it was simple. I guess the biggest reason would be that it was just different. Another one would be that I liked the way some of their apps worked. Such as Miui music.
Honestly for the sensation I'd like to see all of the above. I get bored a lot and to alleviate that I tend to flash different roms often.

AOSP would be heaven, but I doubt that you'll beat kmobs to the punch.
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Sent from my HTC Pyramid.

well from what i understand you need cm7 first be4 miui

maxtcee said:
well from what i understand you need cm7 first be4 miui
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not CM7 perse, but a good AOSP or AOSP based rom is needed to create MIUI. This is from the MIUI forums regarding a port to the Sensation.

Great...
i want to see miui on my htc sensation...
I'll be waiting...

I voted for CyanogenMod, ASOP and MIUI ;-)
Not big on monogamy at this point, I want all.
Waiting patiently.

t0ny0 said:
Hey guys,
I know that developing is in its early stages (doh, it came out yesterday haha), but I just wanted to let our beloved devs that we really really want to have a rom that is AOSP. Sense is a good eye candy, but I am sure that there are many of us in here that would like to get the maximum out of this beast of ours, and I think that AOSP android would give us all that.
Either that, or MIUI ROM - just something different than the Sense 3.0
I am also including a poll - to see if its just me with the desire of getting a non-sense rom ( and by that I mean AOSP, not just removed htc.sense and adding launcher pro ).
I love CyanogenMod as much as the next guy, but I remember that on my MT4G - the AOSP version used to run even better than the cm7.
I kinda liked Sense once I got it, but now I am getting tired of it - its just too much! I want a plain phone, that works like the hardware was meant to be.
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Be patient, they're working on it. Kmobs has the basics working but they won't release until it's ready.
I check download.cyanogenmod.com and sensation development like 3 times a day, lol.
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I'd love CM7.1 to work on our Sensation.... did try the test rom in the Development forum and apart from not being able to turn on the bluetooth, and losing a few settings like Internet Sharing, it feels pretty complete....

Phateless said:
Be patient, they're working on it. Kmobs has the basics working but they won't release until it's ready.
I check download.cyanogenmod.com and sensation development like 3 times a day, lol.
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Could be me... Voted for CM7

Former Nexus S user here.
AdamG cooked up some delicious OxygenROM for the NS. Supposedly one of his cohorts is porting Oxygen to the Sensation. Hopefully that makes it here because it was an incredibly fast and lightweight AOSP rom.

oh I can't wait for CM7 on my Sensation.... I like Miui too but not nearly as much as CM7. I really miss RoyalGinger that I had on my MT4G, I almost wish I'd of waited to buy my sensation until CM7 dropped for it.

Stupid request, wait and give devs the time they need for there awesome work for all of us.
By the way, c-mod is much more greater for every device because they're developing than stolen c-mod stuff modded by miui "devs".
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I haven't used cyanogenmod since cm5, and want that impressed with features. I'll sure many more have been added since then and hope to see it soon. Some of the plain aosp apps kind of suck vs the manufacture flavor though. hopefully the latest CM builds have many bulls info them. I do prefer vanilla ish (launcherpro) vs manufacture launchers though
Sent from my HTC Sensation.

MIUI music is the coolest modded music player out there...and MIUI is fun to tinker with and reminds me of iOS...used to be a Dev so it makes it nostalgic..plus you can change so many things without coding or fussing

Samsung Lockscreen on Inspire?

I'm in love with the Touchwiz 4.0 U/I. I'm wondering if it's possible to get that lockscreen on my rooted inspire with CM7?
I bought widget locker, and don't care for it, i've also tried magic locker and didnt care for that either.

MIUI has it
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Is MIUI a theme or a rom? I'm new to rooting and rom. I just know i couldn't stand Sense and wanted as close to stock android as possible so i got CM7.
Is MIUI better than CM7?

MikeIsCore said:
Is MIUI a theme or a rom? I'm new to rooting and rom. I just know i couldn't stand Sense and wanted as close to stock android as possible so i got CM7.
Is MIUI better than CM7?
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MIUI
Is it better? That's personal preference - try them both and make up your mind

MikeIsCore said:
Is MIUI a theme or a rom? I'm new to rooting and rom. I just know i couldn't stand Sense and wanted as close to stock android as possible so i got CM7.
Is MIUI better than CM7?
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LOL then why get an HTC product.. Just saying

shugga101 said:
LOL then why get an HTC product.. Just saying
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My exact thoughts!!!
try absolution if you're into CM7...you won't regret it. I promise. Do you like bacon?

shugga101 said:
LOL then why get an HTC product.. Just saying
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Well I love HTC Design and build quality since the HTC Touch Diamond back in 2007/8.
Also February of this year when I got the Inspire there weren't many android options on AT&T. I wasn't getting the outdated Aria or Captivate, I hated the current iteration of Motoblur on the Atrix, and I didn't like Touchwiz 3 on the Infuse that had yet to come out. Best option for me at the time was the Inspire because I couldn't take the iPhone anymore.
I just happen to not be a big fan of U/I skins in general - aside from the new Touchwiz 4.

MikeIsCore said:
Well I love HTC Design and build quality since the HTC Touch Diamond back in 2007/8.
Also February of this year when I got the Inspire there weren't many android options on AT&T. I wasn't getting the outdated Aria or Captivate, I hated the current iteration of Motoblur on the Atrix, and I didn't like Touchwiz 3 on the Infuse that had yet to come out. Best option for me at the time was the Inspire because I couldn't take the iPhone anymore.
I just happen to not be a big fan of U/I skins in general - aside from the new Touchwiz 4.
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Well like stated before, if you don't like sense getting an HTC phone was not your best choice however since you made the choice and lucky for you the Inspire has a lot of development, you're not totally boned since you don't like the stock sense feel. Again, I recommend and stand by any of the Collective team's work (Absolution and BBmod). MIUI is nice too but reminds me of an iPhone too much so if I really wanted that type of look, I would have gotten an iPhone (not trying to insult anyone, just my opinion so any of the MIUI fans take exception to that, sorrrrry!!) Best bet try all of the AOSP ROMs and decide for yourself which one you like the most!

Isn't the point of android being able to create your own environment that suits you? Isn't that why we have such a bevvy of ROMs to choose from? I'm on the same boat with the OP, loving HTC's build quality but sense doesn't suit me 100%. I've just recently re-installed LauncherPro and I'm enjoying the environment much better.
MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
if you don't like sense getting an HTC phone was not your best choice.
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MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
MIUI is nice too but reminds me of an iPhone too much so if I really wanted that type of look, I would have gotten an iPhone.
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Yet you recommend ROMs that strip sense from the phone. Why didn't you just get a Nexus phone?
I'd say that Touchwiz has more in common with the look/feel of an iPhone than MIUI has by far. MIUI has a very nice, clean feel to it and adds a lot of elements of customization to the table. I really enjoyed using it while I had my old Captivate, more so than CM7. Right now I'm enjoying Android Revolution + LauncherPro since this offers the most flexibility for my use. I'd say try out MIUI and see if you like it.

Off subject but you sir have an awesome Avatar! CoCa!
blanksuspect said:
Isn't the point of android being able to create your own environment that suits you? Isn't that why we have such a bevvy of ROMs to choose from? I'm on the same boat with the OP, loving HTC's build quality but sense doesn't suit me 100%. I've just recently re-installed LauncherPro and I'm enjoying the environment much better.
Yet you recommend ROMs that strip sense from the phone. Why didn't you just get a Nexus phone?
I'd say that Touchwiz has more in common with the look/feel of an iPhone than MIUI has by far. MIUI has a very nice, clean feel to it and adds a lot of elements of customization to the table. I really enjoyed using it while I had my old Captivate, more so than CM7. Right now I'm enjoying Android Revolution + LauncherPro since this offers the most flexibility for my use. I'd say try out MIUI and see if you like it.
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is touchwiz a rom?

Here is a link to Miui locker. It has several lock screens. Puzzle for sure. I bet it has the touch wiz lock. Have not searched far enough...but you can
http://app.miui.com/index_en.html
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psupernak said:
is touchwiz a rom?
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*sigh* NO. TOUCHWIZ, just like any other manufacturer UI, IS CLOSED-SOURCE. IN OTHER WORDS. NO.

blanksuspect said:
Isn't the point of android being able to create your own environment that suits you? Isn't that why we have such a bevvy of ROMs to choose from? I'm on the same boat with the OP, loving HTC's build quality but sense doesn't suit me 100%. I've just recently re-installed LauncherPro and I'm enjoying the environment much better.
Yet you recommend ROMs that strip sense from the phone. Why didn't you just get a Nexus phone?
I'd say that Touchwiz has more in common with the look/feel of an iPhone than MIUI has by far. MIUI has a very nice, clean feel to it and adds a lot of elements of customization to the table. I really enjoyed using it while I had my old Captivate, more so than CM7. Right now I'm enjoying Android Revolution + LauncherPro since this offers the most flexibility for my use. I'd say try out MIUI and see if you like it.
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My good friend, I think you've misread or misunderstood what I was going at. The OP states he doesn't like sense. My obvious step in logical thinking is, "why get a sense based phone then?" I mean follow your own advice and tell the OP to get a nexus prime since he has explicitly stated he doesn't much like sense.
You're right I do recommend to him CM7 based ROMs because he has stated he doesn't like sense. Why would I advocate or recommend sense based ROMs to a user who has stated he doesn't like sense. I don't mind sense, I actually enjoy the U.I. I don't like that its a resource hog though. So I use CM7 based ROMs, not out of distaste for sense ROMs, just out of lack of customization in most of the sense based ROMs. From time to time I do use sense based ROMs ( BD or ARHD). I've just gotten to know the devs and users of the collective and have a hard time leaving them. Great guys/girls and some of the friendliest people you're gonna meet on XDA.
Like I said, my opinion on MIUI, if you took exception..nothing I can do there friend. That's an inner struggle you'll have to square away. MIUI is a great ROM, never said it wasn't, just reminds me of an iPhone. Plan and simple. My opinion. You're entitled to yours.

[Q] Questions about Sense and Android 4.0

Hello guys,
I've just recently got the One S on contract from Netcom and coming from a Samsung phone this really has been a new experience for me all together. But I have a problem. The phone itself works flawlessly and lags nothing compared to the HTC One X - but I really, really, really HATE SENSE.
I just can't seem to get used to it and since I've pretty much done custom flashing on my old Galaxy S since the very start, I just can't wait to replace SENSE as soon as possible - in the mean time, would it be possible to just unlock the device and put a STOCK version of ICS on it? Like one for the One S so that I get to keep stuff such as the HTC browser and maybe the custom Alt+Tab kind of thingy they put on?
Personally would like to build my own custom ROM with some mixed ingredienses but I wouldn't know where to start.
Any ideas? Or do I just have to wait and stick to this in the mean time?

As a stop-gap measure, you could install another launcher. I did this on the HTC Sensation for awhile before we started having either the non-sense options or true AOSP builds like we have now. From my limited experience, this is a flagship device and developers and users and documentarians will show up. The Sensation has a pretty rich community of both sense and AOSP builds now. One cautionary note though. On my Sensation running a modified version of CM9 there are things still being fixed. You may find early versions of ICS will have a variety of issues as developers get things solved. Its particularly hard before source gets released though. Its like peddling a bicycle backwards in a dark tunnel when its raining.

As mentioned above, install Nova launcher for now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389071
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ok thanks guys. will have to settle with it for now I guess.
Sent from my HTC One S using XDA

Au Contraire!
I am going with the One S because it runs Sense 4 ( best android overlay)
I was going to go with Samsung Galaxy S2 but my friend showed me his, everything about TouchWiz was unappealing from the large text the stale interface.

AndroidBlizzard said:
Au Contraire!
I am going with the One S because it runs Sense 4 ( best android overlay)
I was going to go with Samsung Galaxy S2 but my friend showed me his, everything about TouchWiz was unappealing from the large text the stale interface.
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I guess each one has it's own taste
My gripe with sense is just what you describe as appealing.. the small black text on white background in most of the interface is killing my eye-sight at night. Guess I have been used to the Android 2.3 experience for too long and as much as Sense 4 works wonders - it just not my cup of tea. This could of course be fixed if there was a "black" skin that could be applied. Preferably with as little bright colors as possible (I know, may sound boring but will eventually save a few hours of battery in the long run due to the AMOLED display running "less hot" )

I'm in the same situation as the OP, really enjoyed ICS on my Desire until the display broke (got slammed display first into table... IKEA > HTC)
Anyways here's hoping that I understand these nuggets correctly: "MoDaCo Custom ROMs are based on official ROMs - either shipping or leaked."
"Stock style and Vanilla (ICS) style prebakes will be available as the ROM takes shape."
Source: first post in [ROM] 11 Apr - MoDaCo Custom ROM for the HTC One S - Sense and Vanilla styles in the One S Development forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592126
So hopefully Paulobrien just removes Sense etc from an official ROM. Not sure whats up with the cooking lingo though, maybe there is a dev-chef-lingo dictionary somewhere on XDA!
Also I second your request for where to start learning to build your own ROM! Should post a Q in the noob-friendly thread here.

aureleuz said:
I guess each one has it's own taste
My gripe with sense is just what you describe as appealing.. the small black text on white background in most of the interface is killing my eye-sight at night. Guess I have been used to the Android 2.3 experience for too long and as much as Sense 4 works wonders - it just not my cup of tea. This could of course be fixed if there was a "black" skin that could be applied. Preferably with as little bright colors as possible (I know, may sound boring but will eventually save a few hours of battery in the long run due to the AMOLED display running "less hot" )
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Perhaps you are right
Looking at sense 3.0 interface , the black blackground is weird, sense 4 with white background for settings seems much more natural. I have spent quite some time around my friends who have EVO 3D and Sensation, and I have to admit I will miss the eye catching animations and the easy access carousel function. Of course this is will be my first HTC phone so I can see how people hate the white look of settings. Coming from an iPhone with white settings too, it will be a similar transition for me. Sense just seems to have so much depth and much to explore compared to other Android Overlays. Having ICS along with it just makes the experience much smoother and sweeter.(Pun partially intended )

So... can anybody tell me if the Stock ROMs that have been cooked for the One S recently work good enough to run for production (i.e. HTC camera, launcher, weather widget)
I really would like to feel that AOSP experience again just like on my old Galaxy S. But I don't want to loose any functionality

aureleuz said:
So... can anybody tell me if the Stock ROMs that have been cooked for the One S recently work good enough to run for production (i.e. HTC camera, launcher, weather widget)
I really would like to feel that AOSP experience again just like on my old Galaxy S. But I don't want to loose any functionality
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Try Black Dragon 3.8 Rom. Very stable and keeps all functions working.

LikeaG2root said:
Try Black Dragon 3.8 Rom. Very stable and keeps all functions working.
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Kthx.
Does that include the HTC ImageSense chip-drivers? I really like the way the camera snaps those pics in a fraction of a second!

The Perfect Rom (HTC One S)

Hi All:
Did you ever think how the perfect rom should be ?
a Perfect rom for me is a rom which
1- Have CM settings and options .
2- Have the Sense Image Camera App working as stock rom.
3- Heavy duty Battery serving.
4- No bugs or force close.
5- Stable with No mistakes.
What else ??
Is such a rom even exist ??!
I don't know if this wish is so hard to achieve for HTC or any other mobile band company.
for me my problem with the stock sense rom is stability and little amount of setting available for the user, App keep crashing .....
and some thing driving me crazy which it is that I can't turn vibration off when I answer a call because there is no option to do that , HTC team think that every one like this option and they forget that people think in different way and what you love must I hate it.
Come on HTC think again about what you are doing.
Samsung , Sony , HTC ....ect the only thing they care about is to distinguish from each other " I'm using Android but my Android is different than your Android" ..... Just Like Children
In the end I'd like to say that I respect Huawei so much, they offer for the user to use stock Android system and other Huawei UI in case that you don't like the stock Android, other companies should check and learn how to satisfy the customer

I would love a cm10+ Rom with sense camera.. best of both.. don't know if it can be done though.. no bugs etc is a given..
Sent a from Jellyrolled One S

Why don't you try the Viper ROM?
It has the Sense Cam (CM will probably never have it) and you can enable the CM-like quicksettings in the notification bar. It also has pretty good battery life and is also close to having no bugs.

No bugs? Yea dream on, thats never gonna happen as long as its humans who writes the code.

I switched from Viper to CM a few months ago and have been extremely happy with the product. Viper was unfortunately too slow, even when OC. CM10 is extremely smooth and fast, even without a custom kernel for OC. The camera for CM, however, is extremely disappointing. It is not nearly poor enough where I would switch ROMs, but it definitely needs considerable improvement to been anywhere near that offered by any Sense-based ROM.
My vote is for CM with good camera, too.

What about Snap Camera - haven't used it but I've heard good things about it.

Thank you for your replies guys
For me I'm using Viper One S 2.1.0
It is cool rom but .............. still there is no real CM like settings.
In the first place , why we selected an Android phones ............... there is Windows Phone 8, iOS Apple , Nokia Symbian and more....
But our choice was Android, the ability to fully control & customize the mobile.
Stock roms specially sense make alot of limitation and even also with alot of bugs and unstable performance after long process of destroying the real And pure Android !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe that Google should put a condition to any mobile company want to use Android which it is offering the customers the freedom between using the Stock company rom (sense ,touch wize samsung ....ect..) or the pure Google Android.
Then we will see how many users will keep using a rom like sense

Liquidsmooth by Droyd is my favourite right now. Fastest rom I've ever used. And it looks stable so far!
Regards!

Sounds like you want a Nexus 4 instead of a One S.
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Simco80 said:
Sounds like you want a Nexus 4 instead of a One S.
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To be honest I don't trust LG and all Nexus 4 issues and I don't think that one day I will buy any thing from LG except the washing mashine :laugh:, the HTC hardware is amazing but............... software is below average.
It is a matter of open source, all what HTC should do is to provide a fix for camera app in CM and well known roms to satisfy their loyal customers

one-option said:
Thank you for your replies guys
For me I'm using Viper One S 2.1.0
It is cool rom but .............. still there is no real CM like settings.
In the first place , why we selected an Android phones ............... there is Windows Phone 8, iOS Apple , Nokia Symbian and more....
But our choice was Android, the ability to fully control & customize the mobile.
Stock roms specially sense make alot of limitation and even also with alot of bugs and unstable performance after long process of destroying the real And pure Android !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe that Google should put a condition to any mobile company want to use Android which it is offering the customers the freedom between using the Stock company rom (sense ,touch wize samsung ....ect..) or the pure Google Android.
Then we will see how many users will keep using a rom like sense
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name a setting in cm that doesn't exist in viper..... besides quiet hours...
you have quick settings, you can change battery icons, you can change carrier txt, you can do MORE than what cm offers actually....
PS since sense is closed source you'll never see sense camera on AOSP it's impossible to do since every app that you see in sense is tied to the framework.
and if you don't like sense go buy a nexus phone... seriously.. sense is great and with dev's like torx he gave you more options than half the AOSP roms have.. and what limitations you're speaking of i'd really like to know, all the included sense apps have 10 times for thought and convienence set that stock aosp.. though i do agree that google should make all oems allow users to choose aosp or oem provided there's a reason they dont.. THATS WHY GOOGLE HAS THE NEXUS BRAND!!!!!
... jus sayin

"If you dont like sense buy a nexus"... What kind of bullsh*t is that?
The HOS is superior in every way except for sense - which can easily be solved with an AOSP rom...

Goatshocker said:
"If you dont like sense buy a nexus"... What kind of bullsh*t is that?
The HOS is superior in every way except for sense - which can easily be solved with an AOSP rom...
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how would you say that the HTC One S is better than the nexus 4?
keep in mind.. i build aosp roms... i like them both, i have an htc phone for the build quality and the option to have sense and aosp.. aosp is very basic.. i love sense for work and how easy it is to use.. i know the ins and outs of both os's very very well..

evol4g said:
name a setting in cm that doesn't exist in viper..... besides quiet hours...
you have quick settings, you can change battery icons, you can change carrier txt, you can do MORE than what cm offers actually....
PS since sense is closed source you'll never see sense camera on AOSP it's impossible to do since every app that you see in sense is tied to the framework.
and if you don't like sense go buy a nexus phone... seriously.. sense is great and with dev's like torx he gave you more options than half the AOSP roms have.. and what limitations you're speaking of i'd really like to know, all the included sense apps have 10 times for thought and convienence set that stock aosp.. though i do agree that google should make all oems allow users to choose aosp or oem provided there's a reason they dont.. THATS WHY GOOGLE HAS THE NEXUS BRAND!!!!!
... jus sayin
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OK I will name you a setting it is the vibrate on connect check for details in internet
I know sense camera is only available in sense based rom , and this is the reason that I still use sense...................
I don't like sense at all but I like HTC and the good hardware, I like Nexus but i don't trust LG hardware...
As I said Huawei offer AOSP beside their own UI so where is the problem ?

one-option said:
OK I will name you a setting it is the vibrate on connect check for details in internet
I know sense camera is only available in sense based rom , and this is the reason that I still use sense...................
I don't like sense at all but I like HTC and the good hardware, I like Nexus but i don't trust LG hardware...
As I said Huawei offer AOSP beside their own UI so where is the problem ?
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didn't even know that existed... but that's very minute.. you're right htc does make the best hardware, and just because one OEM allows you to choose aosp doesn't mean all will. That's the reason there's a distinction in phone brands... And if you don't like it thats what us developers are here for so we can make tons of aosp options for ya'll

Looking forward to your sense rom evol4g......

evol4g said:
how would you say that the HTC One S is better than the nexus 4?
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Form factor. The whole point of the One S for a lot of people is to have a slightly smaller phone that allows you to browse comfortably one-handed without adjusting your grip (I'm sure someone will claim they can do the same with a One X or Nexus, but come on... 4.7" is a bit much for a lot of people, let alone 5" in the Galaxy S 4).
Also, build quality in the One S might be a bit better than the Nexus 4 and certainly anything by Samsung. Would love to have an HD screen in this size but the QHD isn't bad. Anything over 250 ppi is fine for my eyes.

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Form factor. The whole point of the One S for a lot of people is to have a slightly smaller phone that allows you to browse comfortably one-handed without adjusting your grip (I'm sure someone will claim they can do the same with a One X or Nexus, but come on... 4.7" is a bit much for a lot of people, let alone 5" in the Galaxy S 4).
Also, build quality in the One S might be a bit better than the Nexus 4 and certainly anything by Samsung. Would love to have an HD screen in this size but the QHD isn't bad. Anything over 250 ppi is fine for my eyes.
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Well said....+ 1....
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Goatshocker said:
No bugs? Yea dream on, thats never gonna happen as long as its humans who writes the code.
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I'm using it for two weeks now and I got no problem with it. No bugs, fc just pure awesomeness.
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ChrisAG said:
Form factor. The whole point of the One S for a lot of people is to have a slightly smaller phone that allows you to browse comfortably one-handed without adjusting your grip (I'm sure someone will claim they can do the same with a One X or Nexus, but come on... 4.7" is a bit much for a lot of people, let alone 5" in the Galaxy S 4).
Also, build quality in the One S might be a bit better than the Nexus 4 and certainly anything by Samsung. Would love to have an HD screen in this size but the QHD isn't bad. Anything over 250 ppi is fine for my eyes.
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That was my thoughts when buying the phone last year. The One S looks and feels unique, and the screen size is perfect for normal phone & texting usage. I had the option to pickup the Galaxy S III for $50 more, but the Sense UI felt smoother to me - not to mention the camera app.

[Q] How good is this phone from an AOSP perspective?

Quick back story: I'm an Android lover for many years who recently finally went Nexus 4 on T-Mobile and I'm very, very happy. To the point where, for the first time ever, I'm running my phone WITHOUT root. Insane, right? But it just works well enough for me that I don't need it. My last phone, a Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch, was utterly awful on custom ROMs, and at least at the point where I gave up on it, CM builds were still buggy and, most importantly, had horrible battery life.
Current situation: My girlfriend has an iPhone 3GS that she had on AT&T, but just switched to Straight Talk with (using the AT&T SIM that came in my starter pack; I just left them for T-Mobile directly, but she can't do that until she gets a phone compatible with their 3G). She's sick of it and ready to go Android. But she hates, hates, hates the trend of large-screen phones, and isn't interested in spending money on something just to try to get used to it. She's played with my 4.7" screen and finds it absurdly large. Yes, yes, I know, if she uses it for a while she'll surely get used to it, right? She claims no, and I'm not about to be a patronizing ass by trying to tell her she's wrong about her own opinions. So whatever the case, it looks like probably the smallest screen that exists on any phones that aren't crap is 4.3". And it looks like the last good 4.3" phone to hit the US with T-Mobile compatibility is the HTC One S. The Mini currently looks as though it's headed only to AT&T, so that's out.
Now I know the One S is locked forever in 4.1 as far as HTC is concerned. And I know 4.1 really isn't that bad, all said and done. And I know some people like Sense. But I also know I never truly LOVED an Android phone until I got the real stock experience. And I'd love her to have that pure Android experience as well. Or an augmented, improved version of it in CM or AOKP or whatever. But point is, I'd like to make sure that if we get her this phone, it might be possible to switch her to an AOSP experience that's going to be at least as solid as the phone's own stock build.
So here's the question: How, honestly, is the HTC One S fairing in this regard? How good are the AOSP-based ROMs for it as far as stability and especially battery life? My girlfriend really derided the battery life of my SGSII, but has been impressed with my Nexus 4. And while she's not a technophobe by any means, I don't want her to have to constantly tinker and monkey with it like we do. I just want it to work for her. Are any AOSP-based, or AOSP-equivalent ROMs going to provide that on this phone?
Thanks.

AOSP is plenty. Team Cyanogen are also working on Jelly Bean v3 as well for it. There is well over ten different AOSP ROMs, most of them made by $droyd$. I recommend Illusions over all other ROMs on here, or if she fancies Sense 5, she should try my ROM it's called CharmanDroid, it really takes advantage of the deep contracts and rich colours on this screen.
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kylepont said:
AOSP is plenty. Team Cyanogen are also working on Jelly Bean v3 as well for it. There is well over ten different AOSP ROMs, most of them made by $droyd$. I recommend Illusions over all other ROMs on here, or if she fancies Sense 5, she should try my ROM it's called CharmanDroid, it really takes advantage of the deep contracts and rich colours on this screen.
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Really love that last sentence :
really takes advantage of the deep contracts and rich colours on this screen.
Our screen is so crap lol! It's something like 960*540 no such thing as rich colours on this display lol... Terrible pentile blue tint
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The camera in aosp is just not usable. Tried 4.3 cam. Its just rediculously Bad. Just try it. Makes my daily a sense Rom..... Sadly
If you don't need the camera, aosp is okay, very clean, fast, smooth and with 4.3 nightlys somewhat stable.
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k1llacanon said:
Really love that last sentence :
really takes advantage of the deep contracts and rich colours on this screen.
Our screen is so crap lol! It's something like 960*540 no such thing as rich colours on this display lol... Terrible pentile blue tint
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The greens are good on it, but you know, all salesmen will make their product sound better than it actually is. Despite the fact this is HTC's fault and not mine. :silly:
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I am very happy with the phone hardware & form factor. I am also very happy with the usability and stability of CM 10.2. Currently using a stripped down/modified version of it called Codename Lungo. I would recommend CM 10.2 as a daily driver.

as a music lover, i can tell you: the earphone-audio performance on every aosp based rom is crap, not even close to the performance on sense-based roms.

I've always liked aosp better on every phone I've had, but on this one the camera and music sound quality on headphones is so much worse on aosp that I'm probably staying on sense.
Not only that I can't stand the lock screen delay on all the aosp roms since the 3.4 kernel.
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This is good feedback overall. I really appreciate it, guys. The last two, in particular, tell me AOSP likely won't be for her, as she does want to use it for music a lot.
So how tolerable, really, is stock? And I'm asking this especially of anyone who prefers AOSP/CM10. I'm not in the mood to put her through all the aches and pains of custom ROMs, so for me it was pretty much going to be stock Sense (stuck at 4.1, although at least it's Jelly Bean) or a really solid AOSP ROM. We're all a different breed; we enjoy tinkering, and get a thrill from updated ROM versions, bug testing, and tweaking. But most people who don't build their own computers and watch Google's press conferences livestreamed over their phones and surreptitiously patched through their Bluetooth headsets so people can't see they're not working, just want something that works. And especially since this'll be her first Android phone, I want the experience to be one that doesn't have her bringing me the phone to troubleshoot every few days.

AOSP audio is greatly improved using CM DSP Manager. Stock camera is much better than AOSP. Sense is quite tolerable and a must if you want essentially zero issues. With stock you just may want to disable a lot of the bloatware that is installed by default.

Dsp manager still didn't give me audio quality that was good enough for me.
Stock for me would have been fine except that I wanted to change the looks. Now I use Source which is a stock based rom with audio quality tweaks and apps and no bloatware. I have an inverted theme so now it looks the way I want and is stable and fast enough.
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350Rocket said:
Dsp manager still didn't give me audio quality that was good enough for me.
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even with dsp manager or "ultimate one sound" the performance was not even close to stock.

Well personally I would point out another perspective. I am a person always after best price/performance devices either on mobile side and computer side. And I was also looking for a device which can be usable with one hand. HTC One S was the device that struck me with price/performance (S4 variant of course) build quality etc. it really worth every single franks I paid for it. But there is an issue. If your girlfriend wants a mobil which she can use with one hand, although HOS seems best bet you can get it's fairly hard to use with only one hand. most of the time you need the help of other hand. And if you already had to use two hands why to narrow your selection? Another thing: It's really hard to use it without a case which provides a firm grip. otherwise our phone is as slippery as a fish.