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[Q] Rooting w/o htcdev

I havent followed newest info for some time, but I noticed that at htcdev you can get HTC One S kernel code.
Have this made us anywhere closer to unlocking without htcdev to keep warranty?
I want to root, but I dont want to avoid any kind of warranty (technical service guys here are assholes)

Just do it with HTC dev say to them if anything does happen that I got my token id and everything to unlock bootloader but thought about it and in the end didn't do it they can't say u did then
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k1llacanon said:
Just do it with HTC dev say to them if anything does happen that I got my token id and everything to unlock bootloader but thought about it and in the end didn't do it they can't say u did then
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If you unlock the phone, it will be flagged AFAIK. Even if you don't do anything and relock it, it will be flagged as "relocked". If you flash anything, it will be flagged as "tampered" as well.
I am new to the whole android modding scene but from my understanding, you can NOT get rid of any of those flags without S-OFF which the community hasn't been able to achieve yet.

[Q] Phone vibrations stopped working.

Hi guys,
I know that this is a problem among other phones and I tried the trick where I hit the phone softly against the table or my hand. The vibrating comes back on briefly but then it goes away again. Anyone know:
1) Any other solutions? I'm pretty sure the internal vibrator is broken.
2) If warranty covers this? And if it does, can people give me direction to unroot my phone that so my warranty isn't voided?
Thanks

Unlocking the bootloader pretty much voided the warranty.
Depends on who check your phone, I know with the Nexus 1, HTC was doing repair work on hardware
problems even with an unlock bl.
To answer your question, relock the bootloader and run the RUU

baseballfanz said:
Unlocking the bootloader pretty much voided the warranty.
Depends on who check your phone, I know with the Nexus 1, HTC was doing repair work on hardware
problems even with an unlock bl.
To answer your question, relock the bootloader and run the RUU
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HTC will honor the warranty a lot of times if its strictly hardware related.
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So if I relock the bootloader, they'll still know that I unlocked it?

dragonblade1214 said:
So if I relock the bootloader, they'll still know that I unlocked it?
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Yes it will say "relocked" instead of "locked". Like mentioned already, HTC is pretty good at warranty when it's hardware problem.

And there's no way to get rid of that at all? :/
And Tmobile also doesn't check the bootloader and whatnot when doing this?

Quick questions from an intermediate technologist (how can I root and use superuser)

I don't need a custom rom or kernel but I want to root and use superuser. I can't figure out how to do it without voiding my warranty?

Rooting is generally the part that voids your warranty (unlocking bootloader on HTC phones also). Superuser requires root, so I'm pretty sure you can't do either without warranty implications.
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Biohazard0289 said:
Rooting is generally the part that voids your warranty (unlocking bootloader on HTC phones also). Superuser requires root, so I'm pretty sure you can't do either without warranty implications.
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I just don't want to have evidence of root, I know that if I register for HTCDev then they won't repair my phone under warranty. Or does T-mobile not care?

knickerblogger said:
I just don't want to have evidence of root, I know that if I register for HTCDev then they won't repair my phone under warranty. Or does T-mobile not care?
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They'll most likely repair it of its a obvious hardware issue. Anything software they won't.
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SuperUser is what gives you root
The procedure is in the Dev Section
Any issues--relock bootloader and there are unroot apps if needed, uninstalling SU may do same thing
As HTC gives you unlock codes, they will more than likely honor warranty on failed hardware as xx said. Unless they can tie it to a software issue. But, as you aren't installing roms, doubt that will happen. They mention unlocking can void warranty. But, I think that is a catch--all
If you are not going to flash roms and worried about warranty, don't root. Even with the bloatware this phones runs fast. I think in Settings/Apps you can Disable an app

Some clarification on upgrading to 4.0.4 with supercid would be greatly appreciated.

I have a stock, rooted, bootloader locked One X. I want the new update due to all of the speed and bug improvements. However, I don't want to lose root, or the ability to flash roms if I ever wanted to. I also do not wish to void the warranty due to my bad luck with phones in the past. Now two questions:
Can I supercid and get an unlock token without HTC voiding my warranty? Possibly with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 ?
Second, would that token be valid after RUU'ing to the 2.20 update if I ever chose to void my warranty and unlock the bootloader?
I would like to thank anyone who replies for their time, and although I have researched quite a bit, I would like to clarify with everyone before taking the plunge.

You're going to void the warranty if you unlock the bootloader. Their is no way around that, well except for sometimes you can relock the boot loader then they would still service it. Kinda like jail breaking and unjailbreaking iPhone except its harder

McMichael96 said:
You're going to void the warranty if you unlock the bootloader. Their is no way around that, well except for sometimes you can relock the boot loader then they would style service it. Kinda like jail breaking and unjailbreaking iPhone accept its harder
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This is more about keeping my options open. I'm not planning on unlocking the bootloader unless I have to. I'm just trying to retain the method of doing so if I ever wanted/needed to while enjoying the latest update. Sorry for not stating my intentions clearly.

Lightfall said:
I have a stock, rooted, bootloader locked One X. I want the new update due to all of the speed and bug improvements. However, I don't want to lose root, or the ability to flash roms if I ever wanted to. I also do not wish to void the warranty due to my bad luck with phones in the past. Now two questions:
Can I supercid and get an unlock token without HTC voiding my warranty? Possibly with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 ?
Second, would that token be valid after RUU'ing to the 2.20 update if I ever chose to void my warranty and unlock the bootloader?
I would like to thank anyone who replies for their time, and although I have researched quite a bit, I would like to clarify with everyone before taking the plunge.
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Ok 1. If you have supercid you already have altered your stock settings. So even if you use a spoof cid method if you ever have to return it guess what... you have to enter your information lol. Unless you change it back to your original super cid before hand HTC could in theory void your warranty. RUUing does not remove supercid it must be changed back manually. In all reality they have to "legally" tell you that they "can" void your warranty. I havent seen them void a warranty just because one had an unlocked bootloader. As long as the phone can be recovered by them you should be ok.
The screen on my first HOX got cracked, I re-locked the bootloader and RUU'd back to stock ROM ( left supercid on it) filed my claim with asurion Got a replacement next day, sent old one back no issues. Remember when you re lock that is displayed you cant change it to say locked as we dont have s-off. However I tracked my old phones return HTC recieved it back roughly 4 days after I mailed it off and asurion did their thing. It has been over a month now and havent heard anything about them not honoring the return. See people dont understand that even if you have insurance, warranty etc HTC can at anytime still according to their legal statements not honor a returned phone or etc. So if HTC doesn't honor it asurion will be adding a hefty fee to the next months bill lol. But like I said before as long as they can recover it I havent heard of anyone having warranty, insurance issues.
2. Yes once you get your unlock token with supercid it is valid no matter what firmware you use. However you must always keep the supercid after unlocking because if you change back to your original CID the unlock token you received wit supercid will fail to flash!
3. My suggestion. Follow threads here to get supercid, Unlock your bootloader, then update, re unlock, flash super user.

U do or do not have superuser permission? U can get your unlockbincode from HTC. They have a disclaimer when doing this. "May void your warranty" it says. However ONLY if u have done this before update, u should be able to unlock after update. So Unlock bootloader from htc before upgrade, then use unlockbincode, root after. NO GUARANTEE ON WARRANTY regardless.
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subarudroid said:
U do or do not have superuser permission? U can get your unlockbincode from HTC. They have a disclaimer when doing this. "May void your warranty" it says. However ONLY if u have done this before update, u should be able to unlock after update. So Unlock bootloader from htc before upgrade, then use unlockbincode, root after. NO GUARANTEE ON WARRANTY regardless.
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I DO have superuser permission. If I were to use the unlock method that does not involve htcdev, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 , they wouldn't have any idea and if I never unlocked then they would have no way of knowing I had an unlock code. This is just in case I decide to unlock later after the update.

Lightfall said:
I DO have superuser permission. If I were to use the unlock method that does not involve htcdev, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 , they wouldn't have any idea and if I never unlocked then they would have no way of knowing I had an unlock code. This is just in case I decide to unlock later after the update.
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but they would unless you manually went back in and removed supercid. This method will give you supercid which would then tell HTC you altered your phone lol.

eraste said:
Ok 1. If you have supercid you already have altered your stock settings. So even if you use a spoof cid method if you ever have to return it guess what... you have to enter your information lol. Unless you change it back to your original super cid before hand HTC could in theory void your warranty. RUUing does not remove supercid it must be changed back manually. In all reality they have to "legally" tell you that they "can" void your warranty. I havent seen them void a warranty just because one had an unlocked bootloader. As long as the phone can be recovered by them you should be ok.
The screen on my first HOX got cracked, I re-locked the bootloader and RUU'd back to stock ROM ( left supercid on it) filed my claim with asurion Got a replacement next day, sent old one back no issues. Remember when you re lock that is displayed you cant change it to say locked as we dont have s-off. However I tracked my old phones return HTC recieved it back roughly 4 days after I mailed it off and asurion did their thing. It has been over a month now and havent heard anything about them not honoring the return. See people dont understand that even if you have insurance, warranty etc HTC can at anytime still according to their legal statements not honor a returned phone or etc. So if HTC doesn't honor it asurion will be adding a hefty fee to the next months bill lol. But like I said before as long as they can recover it I havent heard of anyone having warranty, insurance issues.
2. Yes once you get your unlock token with supercid it is valid no matter what firmware you use. However you must always keep the supercid after unlocking because if you change back to your original CID the unlock token you received wit supercid will fail to flash!
3. My suggestion. Follow threads here to get supercid, Unlock your bootloader, then update, re unlock, flash super user.
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So the modified supercid file will stick even after a full RUU? This is why I'm checking with you guys because I've heard otherwise so it's hard to tell what's right.

Lightfall said:
So the modified supercid file will stick even after a full RUU? This is why I'm checking with you guys because I've heard otherwise so it's hard to tell what's right.
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yes once you have supercid the "current" firmware builds do not overwrite it. They may later release a build that does but 2.20 does not.

eraste said:
yes once you have supercid the "current" firmware builds do not overwrite it. They may later release a build that does but 2.20 does not.
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So because supercid sticks after the update, and because I would need bootloader unlock to modify it to stock, my whole evil plan has been foiled then. Darn... And you're saying bootloader unlock would probably only cause issues on a software related warranty return?

Lightfall said:
So because supercid sticks after the update, and because I would need bootloader unlock to modify it to stock, my whole evil plan has been foiled then. Darn... And you're saying bootloader unlock would probably only cause issues on a software related warranty return?
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Not necessarily. You can always relock and RUU back to stock, and as long as they can "recover" the phone they shouldn't have a problem with it. Even if the HOX gets official bootloader unlock support from HTC they still give this warning. Right now there is no official bootloader unlock support. All the exploits to unlock the bootloader are just that an exploit hack lol. We arent suppose to be able to unlock them right now. However thats ATT's fault not HTC's. I guess its a 50/50 deal if you get someone who wants to be a prick that day if you have to return it then probably voided warranty. If you get someone cool probably ok. Its hard to say as I havent seen them void a warranty just for a unlocked bootloader. But now if you have unlocked then screw the phone up so bad they cant even fix it thats a different story lol.

eraste said:
Not necessarily. You can always relock and RUU back to stock, and as long as they can "recover" the phone they shouldn't have a problem with it. Even if the HOX gets official bootloader unlock support from HTC they still give this warning. Right now there is no official bootloader unlock support. All the exploits to unlock the bootloader are just that an exploit hack lol. We arent suppose to be able to unlock them right now. However thats ATT's fault not HTC's. I guess its a 50/50 deal if you get someone who wants to be a prick that day if you have to return it then probably voided warranty. If you get someone cool probably ok. Its hard to say as I havent seen them void a warranty just for a unlocked bootloader. But now if you have unlocked then screw the phone up so bad they cant even fix it thats a different story lol.
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I used to have a captivate before this phone and I'm used to flashing one ROM after another. You telling me to just unlock my One X is like telling a former heroine addict to shoot some up for their birthday. You're not making this easy for me lol.

Lightfall said:
I used to have a captivate before this phone and I'm used to flashing one ROM after another. You telling me to just unlock my One X is like telling a former heroine addict to shoot some up for their birthday. You're not making this easy for me lol.
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lol

[Q] Will rooting void my warranty even if it doesnt cover software defects?

In my warranty card says that the warranty covers exclusively hardware. So if i root my HOX, will my warranty be void?

schwarld said:
In my warranty card says that the warranty covers exclusively hardware. So if i root my HOX, will my warranty be void?
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Yes, to be rooted you need to unlock the bootloader which will void your warranty
Wrong section

if you end up having a hardware issue then they shouldn't care that it was unlocked, but its always best to relock the bootloader and run ruu before returning for warranty so they cant claim that its software.

No it does not. Even unlocking does not void your warranty. It "may" void your warranty. I can't remember hearing anyone being denied a warranty repair/replacement for rooting or unlocking in many years now.
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matt95 said:
Yes, to be rooted you need to unlock the bootloader which will void your warranty
Wrong section
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Wrong answer
c5satellite2 said:
No it does not. Even unlocking does not void your warranty. It "may" void your warranty. I can't remember hearing anyone being denied a warranty repair/replacement for rooting or unlocking in many years now.
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You are correct sir, rooting your device is legal and does not void your warranty. As long as you can put the device in a stock condition there should be no issues.
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c5satellite2 said:
No it does not. Even unlocking does not void your warranty. It "may" void your warranty. I can't remember hearing anyone being denied a warranty repair/replacement for rooting or unlocking in many years now.
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Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Some folks over on the international One X forum have had their warranty claims denied if they were BL unlocked, and ever installed a custom ROM (even if they returned to stock before sending the phone for warranty service). While those that only BL unlocked, but never flashed a custom ROM seem ok.
Also, if you go through your carrier for the warranty service, your results may also vary. For instance, testimonies on here seem to point to AT&T in the US doesn't check much of anything (at least BL unlock) when doing a warranty replacement.
HTC reserves the right to void your warranty, and deny warranty service. Whether they actually will or not, is less clear.
Agree for the most part, that if you return to as close to stock as possible before sending the phone in, you are probably ok. More importantly, IMO if you want the freedom to root, unlock, etc. and use the phone how you want to, just do it. Sure there is some small risk that you will later need warranty service, and have it denied. But everything has its risk. Carpe diem!

Broken usb port not covered due to changed boot loader
schwarld said:
In my warranty card says that the warranty covers exclusively hardware. So if i root my HOX, will my warranty be void?
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I sent in my Rogers HTC One in for repair because it wouldn't charge. HTC said its not warranty because the boot loader had been tampered with. Cost me $265 for the repair... still waiting to receive the phone back.

subjects says..
my phone is rooted and my htc desire 500 dosent boot up and orange light blinks while charging i tried evrytng but none of them helped to reboot i m stuck can i claim warranty? at this case ,,as they cannot boot my htc device..
:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:

revanth kr said:
my phone is rooted and my htc desire 500 dosent boot up and orange light blinks while charging i tried evrytng but none of them helped to reboot i m stuck can i claim warranty? at this case ,,as they cannot boot my htc device..
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No, you cannot claim warranty because the device is in this state as a result of you modifying it. HTC is not responsible for the damage that you have done to the device, they're only responsible for hardware defects from the factory.
I don't know what you've done to the device, but if you can't recover from what is probably a simple mistake on your part then you really don't have any business modifying the device in the first place. You might be able to recover from this situation but you'll need to find your device forum and ask there.
A piece of advice: do your research before messing around with your next phone. There is a certain level of knowledge required when modifying your device, and as you're finding out now, if you don't really know what you're doing things can go south pretty quickly. Take the time to educate yourself a bit better, with the proper knowledge modifying your phone is a piece of cake.
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revanth kr said:
my phone is rooted and my htc desire 500 dosent boot up and orange light blinks while charging i tried evrytng but none of them helped to reboot i m stuck can i claim warranty? at this case ,,as they cannot boot my htc device..
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timmaaa answered it quite well. Also, you are off topic and bumped a thread from over 7 months ago. This thread is about whether warranty will still cover manufacturer defects if you are bootloader unlocked.
No warranty will cover you for damage that you did by your own negligence. Screwing up the phone and trying to claim warranty repair is fraud and the exact reason why HTC locks bootloaders in the first place. Also bear in mind that HTC recorded the IMEI number of your device when you unlocked the bootloader.

i did nothing than unlocking just bootloader .. when i rebooted it failed tis is wat happened..

That still doesn't amount to a physical defect. You accepted a risk when you unlocked the bootloader on your device, a risk that something might go wrong. If you can get it to the bootloader you can relock the bootloader and run an RUU for your device. Like I said earlier though you need to find your own device forum, this is the HTC One XL forum and we don't know enough about your device to offer any real help. Basically, you're in the wrong place, find your own device forum and ask for help there.
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revanth kr said:
i did nothing than unlocking just bootloader .. when i rebooted it failed tis is wat happened..
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From the following post, you also installed custom recovery and installed a custom ROM. Which is a heck of a lot more than just unlocking the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51301875&postcount=1
It seems you are already lying to us (or withholding the truth) so it seems honesty is not your highest priority.
In any case, its pretty clear that your current condition is a direct result of your actions, and not any type of manufacturer defect.

Interesting. Now it's obvious he's done something silly to cause this situation. Absolutely not a valid warranty claim.
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