Hey Folks,
i habe rooted my phone and my Bootloader says "Tempered" and "Unlocked".
Well now i have one Question, is it possible to unroot my phone?
I have to return it to a company, because of a missunderstanding.
So can you help me?
I know the way, how i look my Bootloader, but how can i unroot it?
if you run an RUU that should remove root.
you will not get rid of the tampered when you revert, it will just change to relocked.
Mine is branded by vodafone/1und1.
I know that i don't get rid of, but i want a 'clean' phone! ;-)
mine too was vodafone branded. I just rooted and removed all the bloatware..
if you return a phone unbranded it makes no difference. they only question devices with obvious signs of modding. Such as S-OFF, Custom ROMs ect ect..
i dont know if they will know its rooted, as the kernel is stock, if you just remove all apps, Including Superuser. i doubt they will look to far into it.
Usually they just flash the latest software and return it. Or in some cases just send out a fresh new one..
ive just returned my one-s rooted running virtuous rom to the phone store and they didnt even check it, swapped handsets and put old handset into the box and sealed for shipping
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Ive rooted and have got s-off on my sensation and did this in order to unlock it, i must be honest i am a complete noob and didnt understand half of what this actually did. can anyone enlighten me? lol
Back to my main question, if i install s-on and unroot, will the phone remain unlocked? or will it simply go back to its original state?
thanks for any help
edit: typo
Not to sound funny but if you didn't know what you were doing then you shouldn't have done it in the first place.
Having said that, what do you mean when you say you 'unlocked' it?
S-off means that you have removed the Protected NAND safety protection, allowing you to flash custom and unsigned software on the device
Root means that some applications will now be allowed to do things that they were no supposed to do.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
unlocked as in not sim locked
I'm not 100% sure but I'd imagine once done it's permanent
apologies, for the first post, i understood what happens when you root and s-off i just did not understand exactly waht you gain ie. what does it allow you to do with apps and why, the sole reason i did it was to enable myself to unlock the phone and save a few hundred pound as it was i gift from someone who did not use it, instead of selling and going throught he hassle of a new one i thought i would unlock it instead.
I have now however got back to S on and Unrooted (scared of warranty issues) and PRESTO the phone is still unlocked! (apologies if you already knew this worked, i had inferred that nobody knew hence the no reply to my question)
Thanks
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Also guys do i need to be rooted in order to flash the ROM, i'd like to use the T-Mobile one as it says its compatible in Pyramid, i dont need S-Off do i?
To flash any ROM, stock (different from your current one) or custom, you need S-OFF
S-OFF doesn't SIM unlock it either - that's something separate altogether
EddyOS said:
To flash any ROM, stock (different from your current one) or custom, you need S-OFF
S-OFF doesn't SIM unlock it either - that's something separate altogether
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Ok thanks a lot, how do i know which one of these http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559 to use? As there are multiple for HTC Europe
What ROM do you have on your phone at present? Was it branded when you got it?
Go to Settings>About phone>Software information and post your software version
Hi ,
Wanting to get rid of 3 uk junk and flash to normal UK RUU
Do we need super CID?
My bootloader is unlocked , can't download the RUU from from the Dev section as all the slots are gone , or when it seems to work it errors out .
Has anyone got the latest UK RUU file they can share with me and can someone confirm if I need Super CID to run RUU to unbrand
Thanks in Advance
Just flash Modaco or the Virtuous roms through recovery, these are unbranded and really good.
You will need to flash a Recovery image first though.
Hi and thanks
Yes , I understand this but I want to just unbrand through RUU then re-lock my bootloader.
Do we need Super CID ?
Ok can someone remind me if I need S-Off to change the CID , playing around with ADB at the moment
If Im honest mate, no idea what you mean by CID...
But if you want a new rom, all that needs to be done is unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash rom.
Thats all anyone has done in the dev threads, and worked fine for me (coming from a retail, unbranded unit).
You can 'lock' the bootloader again, BUT it never goes back to its true original state. This is as HTC designed their unlocking/locking process to be (and is stated in their terms when you go to their site to unlock).
Edit: OK, just read up on it. Possibly then! Depends how annoying 3 are I suppose... Probably best to ask one of the devs
Edit 2: CHeck the following, may be of help (though its for the One X)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594262
http://android.modaco.com/topic/353106-debrand-one-x/
Edit 3: If you're applying a flashable zip, does the CID limitiation on RUUs even come into play?
Hi thanks ,
Yea what I want to achieve is this .
My CID is HG3____001 this will need to be changed to a CID that is HTC UK specific usually HTC_____001
To find out your CID in ADB
Fastboot Getvar CID
To get to a retail version from a branded version , what usually needed to happen was this .
Unlock bootloader , change CID to 11111111 via ADB
Run the specific UK RUU.exe
Change your CID to the HTC_____001 which is the usual default for UK unbranded devices .
re-lock your bootloader and then you should receive OTA updates from HTC instead of your network supplier which can take months
I can't remember if S-off was needed to do this. I have just checked revolution site and One s is not listed , will play around tonight though and see
Thanks for the help so far
Hi, I know what CID is - coming from the Sensation.
I dont think its possible to change CID without S-OFF, you cant use advanced ADB functions with S-ON
Until revolutionary or someone else makes tool for S-OFF, we will just have to stick with HTCDev, Its not the best, but it allows to flash recovery and ROMs so its better than nothing.
Im pretty sure there will be some progress in the next few weeks, Once the phone is available worldwide
Ahh ok , thanks , yea this phone is set S- on , so S-off will be needed sooner or later
yeah, as development develops and more rights are needed from the phone, S-0FF will eventually be a MUST.
I wish it was available already, I hate the fact that HTC know i have tampered with my HBOOT and voided my warranty.
Luckily enough, if i have a problem, my provider fixes / repairs the phone, Not HTC, So i might just get off lightly
I think HTC will know if you have tampered with the phone period if they wish to look that far into it .
Unless you fry your processor where you have set it too high etc then shouldn't be a problem. If you have a hardware problem such as your screen fails , battery etc then should be fine .
As you say though , if you brought it through a retail unit then that is where it is returned so in some respects is a bit easier as they will use a third party repairer acting for HTC .
well with the sensation it was possible to return everything back to stock, Including the bootloader and S-ON..
There was no way it could be diagnosed as being tampered with, If you did it properly..
But with HTCDev. youve already submitted a code (which i assume contains serial number) so all they have to do is check whether that device matches anything on their database of tampered devices. Thats why i dislike it so much..
But i need root for most of my apps so there was no workaround for me...
I see on the One X forum S-off is under way . Can't wait to get this baby to true stock.
Just did another Google search for S-Off on the S but nothing as yet .
Hello folks, sorry for the dumb questions but this is new for me. I have HTC One X (AT&T) phone, bought in USA. This is my first android phone and I barely know android as a software. I unlocked the phone buying an unlock code from ebay and I am using the phone on another carrier. My question is, how can i manually update my phone (what is the newest update?) since AT&T is not a carrier in my country and I cannot update automatically.
At the moment my software information are:
Android version 4.0.3
HTC Sense version 4.0
Software number 1.85.502.3 710RD
Kernel version 3.0.8-01155-gca24d1eroo[email protected] # SMP PREEMPT (why is there root in the kernel version, my phone has never been rooted?)
Build number 1.85.502.3_R2 CL63811 release-keys
Doing this manual update if possible will the phone be locked to AT&T again, or my phone will remain unlocked?
I'm sorry for my bad english and sorry if there is already a question like this (I watched the noob video and did use the search button)
Thank you in advance
If you ever want to root or flash custom ROMs or other mods, I would advise not installing the latest (2.20) version AT&T firmware. Installing the official 2.20 firmware updates the bootloader, which plugs the holes by which kernels and radios can be flashed from recovery.
If you want root, I would root on 1.85, SuperCID, and unlock bootloader. Then you can install any firmware you want, including stock rooted versions that are more up to date than 2.20.
If you still want to install the 2.20 firmware, you can download the RUU (ROM updated utility) from HTC and run it on a PC, with the phone connected via USB. The phone should remain SIM unlocked after running the RUU. But RUU will wipe your data partition (but not the internal SD).
A lot of this may be over your head, so this may help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784459
redpoint73 said:
If you ever want to root or flash custom ROMs or other mods, I would advise not installing the latest (2.20) version AT&T firmware. Installing the official 2.20 firmware updates the bootloader, which plugs the holes by which kernels and radios can be flashed from recovery.
If you want root, I would root on 1.85, SuperCID, and unlock bootloader. Then you can install any firmware you want, including stock rooted versions that are more up to date than 2.20.
If you still want to install the 2.20 firmware, you can download the RUU (ROM updated utility) from HTC and run it on a PC, with the phone connected via USB. The phone should remain SIM unlocked after running the RUU. But RUU will wipe your data partition (but not the internal SD).
A lot of this may be over your head, so this may help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784459
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Thank you redpoint73 for your answer, I will follow your advice and will root it on 1.85.
I suppose what I should do first is rooting my phone following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167.
Than I should do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672284
Please correct me if I am mistaken
After doing all of that which firmware do you suggest or stock rooted version, or its just matter of taste? Now again the same question will I lose my SIM-unlock after rooting mt phone?
StoleMacuk said:
Thank you redpoint73 for your answer, I will follow your advice and will root it on 1.85.
I suppose what I should do first is rooting my phone following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167.
Than I should do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672284
Please correct me if I am mistaken
After doing all of that which firmware do you suggest or stock rooted version, or its just matter of taste? Now again the same question will I lose my SIM-unlock after rooting mt phone?
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The root method you linked is actually for 1.73. You want to use this one for 1.85: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709296
The SuperCID method you linked is correct.
ROM/firmware is very much a matter of taste, and what features you are looking for. If you want stock, you can install the stock rooted 2.20 AT&T firmware in the Development forum (after unlocking the bootloader and installing TWRP). If you want something based on stock, but with cool added features and customizations, look at ViperXL, CleanROM, or Nocturnal LE. But that doesn't mean that any of the other ROMs are not also great. And that doesn't even mention the more "vanilla" (no HTC Sense) Android experience you can get from AOSP based ROMs, and their variants.
The differences and benefits of each are simply too extensive to discuss here. Just start looking at the ROMs and see what looks interesting to you.
Take a look at my index to see all the resources in an organized list:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
redpoint73 said:
The root method you linked is actually for 1.73. You want to use this one for 1.85: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709296
The SuperCID method you linked is correct.
ROM/firmware is very much a matter of taste, and what features you are looking for. If you want stock, you can install the stock rooted 2.20 AT&T firmware in the Development forum (after unlocking the bootloader and installing TWRP). If you want something based on stock, but with cool added features and customizations, look at ViperXL, CleanROM, or Nocturnal LE. But that doesn't mean that any of the other ROMs are not also great. And that doesn't even mention the more "vanilla" (no HTC Sense) Android experience you can get from AOSP based ROMs, and their variants.
The differences and benefits of each are simply too extensive to discuss here. Just start looking at the ROMs and see what looks interesting to you.
Take a look at my index to see all the resources in an organized list:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
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I have a doubt. As I'm no from USA, I'll have no option to update the firmware over the air. How must I proceed in this part of the manual method?
Won't I have any issues with this?
Thank you guys in advance...
galitore said:
How must I proceed in this part of the manual method?
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My advice? Stop now. If, in fact, "This is my first android phone and I barely know android as a software," you're not ready to root.
You need to spend the next week (at least) reading and searching and reading some more. Don't come back until you can answer the following questions:
1. What does "rooting" mean, what exactly does it do to your phone?
2. What are you doing when you unlock the bootloader?
3. What's the difference between stock and custom recovery, and stock and custom ROMs?
Once you feel like you understand all this, you're ready to proceed. If you push forward now, you'll almost certain to get into trouble that you won't be able to get out of without extensive help.
iElvis said:
My advice? Stop now. If, in fact, "This is my first android phone and I barely know android as a software," you're not ready to root.
You need to spend the next week (at least) reading and searching and reading some more. Don't come back until you can answer the following questions:
1. What does "rooting" mean, what exactly does it do to your phone?
2. What are you doing when you unlock the bootloader?
3. What's the difference between stock and custom recovery, and stock and custom ROMs?
Once you feel like you understand all this, you're ready to proceed. If you push forward now, you'll almost certain to get into trouble that you won't be able to get out of without extensive help.
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Hi iElvis,
actually it wasn`t me who said "This is my first android phone and I barely know android as a software"... it was another member.
I had an Motorola Atrix 4G which I rooted a coupe of times, but this one was made for my country market, differently than my HOX, that is at&t. But in one thing you`re right. I have not much experience with HOX. That`s true...
My question was regarding the part of the manual process which needs a communication between at&t and my cellphone. In this case I wouldn`t find any upgrade option to accept or deny. So i don`t know what would happen in this case... does anyone know?!?!
galitore said:
Hi iElvis,
actually it wasn`t me who said "This is my first android phone and I barely know android as a software"... it was another member.
I had an Motorola Atrix 4G which I rooted a coupe of times, but this one was made for my country market, differently than my HOX, that is at&t. But in one thing you`re right. I have not much experience with HOX. That`s true...
My question was regarding the part of the manual process which needs a communication between at&t and my cellphone. In this case I wouldn`t find any upgrade option to accept or deny. So i don`t know what would happen in this case... does anyone know?!?!
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Whoops! Sorry about that.
As far as I know, the only way is to flash a custom rom with the base you want, or to run the RUU for that base, which will leave you relocked and unrooted.
Hi,
As you've already imagined, I'm not any god-alike person in XDA. I don't know a lot about android developing. Yes, I am an amateur. (Although not a beginner) I'm just in a bit of trouble here and would love to have someone to help me.
Anyway, I've been using an HTC One [(M7_UL), (PN0710000)] for about 3 weeks now. And I've already tortured it a lot (not physically! ) I've unlocked the bootloader, installed CWM custom recovery, installed the 2.17.401.1 stock ROM posted by mike1986. (believe me, this guy is awesome!!)
Now I want to get back to COMPLETELY STOCK so that I can get OTA updates again and remove the "TAMPERED" mark from my device's bootlocker menu. So I relocked my bootloader, downloaded an RUU (RUU_M7_UL_JB_50_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.7_Radio_4A.13.3231.27_10.31.1131.05_release_310878_signed.exe) and tried to install it. The interesting part is, this RUU is for "x.xx.401.x" based devices only. But mine was a SIM-Unlocked Vodafone UK (x.xx.161.x) based device out of the box. So, As I imagined right from the beginning, I couldn't install this RUU. I got the "ERROR [131]: CUSTOMER ID ERROR". But I also noticed that the .401 and the .161 variants have many similarities. Such as they are both M7_UL devices and their model numbers are same too (PN0710000). Honestly, I don't like Vodafone (I don't know why I bought it from them) and right now, I want the PURE STOCK ROM, not any career-branded ROM. So, I though if it was possible for me to install a "x.xx.401.x" based RUU in my device. And if it is possible in any way (there SHOULD be a way, right?), how do I do it? Please help me. And if you need any other information in order to answer my question, I'm ready to answer.
Thanks a lot....
Alright so I rooted my phone around February and installed CM12.1 but because I want to get a replacement from HTC due to my friend dropping my phone and cracking the screen, so I need to unroot the device so I can use the warranty. Looking around there are some methods but they seem to not work correctly for my phone. And because I am a total dingus, I accidentally relocked the bootloader and now I can't reflash a custom recovery. I have tried installing RUUs from different threads on this site via hboot but they seem to not work. I don't know if anyone can help me if you can I really would appreciate it and would like to get this fixed as soon as possible. The CID is VZW__001 and the main OS on the bootloader says 3.28.605.4 but the box says 1.55.605.2 so I don't know which one is the correct one so if someone could clear something up and give me a link to a correct RUU for my phone that would be amazing. Thanks in advance
Have you tried re unlocking the boot loader?
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