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Google I/O Saphire/Magic phones (aka Google Ion)

Would be interesting to collect information on the phones given out today at Google I/O (each attendee got one for free, a pretty nice surprise!).
Here's the phone info. Would be helpful if anyone familiar with phones from other sources can comment on how this compares and anything these builds and versions might mean?
Model: Google Ion
Firmware Version: 1.5
Baseband Version: 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I
Kernel Version: 2.6.27-00392-g8312baf
[email protected] #72
Build Number: CRB28
We've been told this phone is SIM unlocked, and has a bootloader which will allow flashing customized images (not yet confirmed - just got it a few hours ago ).

any screen shot of the phone at work?

Yeah, the kernel dude from the Android Dev team definitely confirmed that this phone has either the Engineering bootloader or the HardSPL because it is "capable of flashing any image".
Here's a screenshot of the phone's HUGE internal memory increase:
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I also have a video of the team talking about how they feel about root at the Android Fireside Chat. Coming soon.

there is
http://androidcommunity.com/google-io-2009-htc-android-phone-unboxing-video-and-pics-20090527/
some pics and unboxing video

do you notice anything different on the os in compare to cupcake 1.5?or is just the ufficial cupcake?

In the video I'm uploading to Vimeo right now, the kernel chief (Brian, I think), talks about how he goes on xda-developers a lot. Haha.

I got my hands on an Ion phone too.
The fireside chats were great. The devs actually said they encouraging hacking and want the OEMs to ship a bootloader that allows easy flashing. Several of the guys said they visit XDA too.

Taylor likes dudes

Are the entering to the I/O conference cost any money?

I want free Google Ion too But I'm too far from Google IO conference

Here's the video of the Android Devs talking about root..
http://vimeo.com/4878214

The internal memory (flash) seems kind of low. The htc website says it has 512mbs of flash. So 295 megs available to the user doesn't seem that much. 217 is being used by the system?
Were you able to figure out how much RAM the HTC Magic has?
Supposedly it has 288 megs of RAM vs 192 megs on the G1.
The samsung i7500 supposedly has only 128 megs.
I'm considering either the magic or i7500 when it becomes available in the US, and the amount of RAM it has could be the deciding factor. The amount of built-in flash doesn't matter to me since any type of flash issues is solved by apps to sd.
Thanks,
Dave
oxeneers said:
Yeah, the kernel dude from the Android Dev team definitely confirmed that this phone has either the Engineering bootloader or the HardSPL because it is "capable of flashing any image".
Here's a screenshot of the phone's HUGE internal memory increase:
I also have a video of the team talking about how they feel about root at the Android Fireside Chat. Coming soon.
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avimak said:
Are the entering to the I/O conference cost any money?
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From the Google I/O FAQ
How much does it cost to attend the event?
Early Bird registration fees are $300 through May 1st, 2009. Attendees who register after May 1st will be charged $400. The academia (for students, professors, faculty & staff) registration fee is $50.
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Just so you all know:
I successfully have gotten root on the Ion. Brian from the dev team did confirm it has the engineering bootloader, so I went ahead and flashed Haykuro's "RootMe Rom", which unfortunately converts it to an HTC Magic model number, and I had to enter T-Mobile APN settings for the first time since the phone is unlocked. (Before, it would automatically configure all that). In fact, I could not get through Google account setup without selecting "skip".
Anyways, so I'm all set, if anyone has questions hit me up on gtalk [email protected] and I'll see if I can help you.
In other news, anyone going to be able to post the original Google Ion ROM so Haykuro can maybe modify and root it for us?

oxeneers said:
Just so you all know:
I successfully have gotten root on the Ion. Brian from the dev team did confirm it has the engineering bootloader, so I went ahead and flashed Haykuro's "RootMe Rom", which unfortunately converts it to an HTC Magic model number, and I had to enter T-Mobile APN settings for the first time since the phone is unlocked. (Before, it would automatically configure all that). In fact, I could not get through Google account setup without selecting "skip".
Anyways, so I'm all set, if anyone has questions hit me up on gtalk [email protected] and I'll see if I can help you.
In other news, anyone going to be able to post the original Google Ion ROM so Haykuro can maybe modify and root it for us?
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Disconnect helped set this up: http://andblogs.net/2009/05/ion-update-available/
this is a vanilla version of the rom. nothing special there. (should work on everyones sapphire / magic device atm)

Anyone installed this yet?
Assume you install the full package first, and then the update? Any instructions on how to do this?

it'd be nice to know the procedure to flash that ion rom into our magics, so then we can plot differences and tests...
i've read that requires test-keys , so a recovery.img original vodafone wont work?!?

Well, I'v installed by renaming the full image download to update.zip, wipe then apply. However, had to do this twice and now don't have the nandroid backup option. Assume I can't just reapply a previous nadroid backup?
Confused!

saquib said:
Well, I'v installed by renaming the full image download to update.zip, wipe then apply. However, had to do this twice and now don't have the nandroid backup option. Assume I can't just reapply a previous nadroid backup?
Confused!
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have you had a rooted phone? applyed some non-original files like recovery.img or SPL?
which keyboard languages does support?
thanks =)

phone was rooted and applied the new spl.
put on 6.0, did not like so reverted to my nandroid backup.
now put on ion rom and lost the nandroid option (backup) etc.
can someone explain or point to a newbies guide of defintions, e.g. root, recovery image, spl etc. etc.
thanks!

[Program] Updated: 8-5-10: 1 Click SimpleRoot OTA 1.47.651.1 Edition

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Automatic updates and create update patches with wyBuild.
If you amazingly got your EVO with 2.2 or flashed it, theres no way to root 2.2 as of YET!!!
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Click on Step 1 and you have Root!
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What recovery is this going to use?

Lets you choose

After I just finished a few hours ago reading every post in the other thread and following all those steps!
Way to go, jiqqaman! This will help out quite a few folks on here.

Awesome. I rooted my phone earlier (at least I think I did) and I can't get any rom to install. I think it has to do with the amon-ra recovery so I'm glad this will let me choose.
Does it matter that my evo may already be rooted?

Damn your quick.

Wow Amazing if this works I like very much. Great work put up a more prominent donation button

Such a tease!

so this will root a phone that did the 6/29 OTA? just by following these steps?

Where do I get this util?
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Jiggaman, you are DA MAN! BTW, check your PM. =)

also jigga, i noticed the first step is a factory reset. is there any way to back up any of my apps and/or data before doing this considering i dont have root privileges at the moment.

Will this do full NAND unlock?
Sorry if that is a noob question.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Thanks this is much appreciated

@OP
Would be great if you can do a video guide again like the 1st Simple Root...

HondaCop said:
Jiggaman, you are DA MAN! BTW, check your PM. =)
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Will do...
hockey4life0099 said:
also jigga, i noticed the first step is a factory reset. is there any way to back up any of my apps and/or data before doing this considering i dont have root privileges at the moment.
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Its alittle more difficult to do without TitaniumBackup which requires root... you might wanna checkout MyBackup on the market see if it works or not...
erball said:
Will this do full NAND unlock?
Sorry if that is a noob question.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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Yes
Still working on a couple more bugs , should be uploading real soon...

wow this looks easy.. quick question.. do i have to update to 1.47 first? or does this do it autmomatically?
im running stock and just ran unrevoked for the wireless tether..
i know these are noob questions but people are reporting great battery life on the new update and i wanted to update but dont wanna lose my tether..

bluedawgalex said:
wow this looks easy.. quick question.. do i have to update to 1.47 first? or does this do it autmomatically?
im running stock and just ran unrevoked for the wireless tether..
i know these are noob questions but people are reporting great battery life on the new update and i wanted to update but dont wanna lose my tether..
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I dunno anything bout unrevoked , but this doesnt give you the latest radio/wimax that the 1.47.651.1 OTA has. Theres a guide that shows you how to add the latest radio/wimax somewhere on the forum.

I'm using this as my very first post here.
On my old evo I used simple root and it was amazing! I had to return the old evo and get a new one, and as luck would have it it came with the new update.
I can't wait for this new simple root to be uploaded, I keep checking this thread every 5 minutes.
Anyway, one this program is up, running and working I assure you I will be clicking the donate button.
Thank you for the work and effort you are putting into this.

jiqqaman said:
I dunno anything bout unrevoked , but this doesnt give you the latest radio/wimax that the 1.47.651.1 OTA has. Theres a guide that shows you how to add the latest radio/wimax somewhere on the forum.
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well unrevoked basically let you do anything root would except remove bloatware and flash roms
cuz what i was planning to do was install the update directly from my phone and then root with this method .. if i do that will my phone have the latest radio wimax added on to it already?

[ROOTED] Rogers 911 patched Dream

So after reading the recent root on the DroidX via boing boing I decided to poke it and see if it could help us on the Android1.5 dream.
Not just can it help us, but it works out of box.
For Upgrade Instructions goto:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rooting_HTC_Branded_EBI1_Dreams
Simplified process (full process is on the wiki link above):
Install DroidX hack
run it
enter root shell
unlock recovery
flash recovery
flash dangerspl [This is very safe on EBI1 devices, its the EBI0 users that get into trouble]
erase rogers rom via fastboot [I always get an unstable install of custom roms if I skip this]
install rom of choice.
Remember to thank the people over at Droid X and All Droid (as I said I just ran it.. they did the hard work)
Edit: its all based on http://c-skills.blogspot.com/2010/07/android-trickery.html
This is a rather scary attack as it applies not only to the Rogers Dream but many other android devices (including the custom mod you are likely about to install)
Edit 8/13/2010: an exploid patch for cm5.0.8 is now available; Also patched in CM6-rc3
On this note if you where one of those bugging me to do some dangerous JTAG operation on your working phone... the answer is officially no, root it yourself.
Again the full detailed installation instructions can be found at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rooting_HTC_Branded_EBI1_Dreams

Nice! This is going to make a lot of people happy

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bravo good sir bravo

TODAY IS THE BEST DAY EVER!
Root 4 my phone!
And Got a Job with HP today!
Got my ticket and am Going to eclipsefestival.com tomorrow!
Thanks to everyone at Droid X and All Droid you guys are the best!
Woo Hoo!

omg, the impossible just became possible!
HOLD ON, so this means they got past the bootloader (easily instructions too) lockdown by moto. Am I correct in assuming this will open up the moto milestone rooting scene in Canada and other places the milestone is?

asb123 said:
omg, the impossible just became possible!
HOLD ON, so this means they got past the bootloader (easily instructions too) lockdown by moto. Am I correct in assuming this will open up the moto milestone rooting scene in Canada and other places the milestone is?
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I think it will give you root if you are an android device... if not a poke the code a bit to match whatever is slightly moved on your phone.. this is a bit of a scary exploit now that I'm looking at it closer.

asb123 said:
omg, the impossible just became possible!
HOLD ON, so this means they got past the bootloader (easily instructions too) lockdown by moto. Am I correct in assuming this will open up the moto milestone rooting scene in Canada and other places the milestone is?
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root does not = custom roms. It means that you get superuser.apk and su access. They're still working on the bootloader.

bravoooo +1

mejorguille said:
root does not = custom roms. It means that you get superuser.apk and su access. They're still working on the bootloader.
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Ok, of course my phone is fine, I was thinking for a friend.
Fortunately HTC doesnt pull that off

Wow. Good job as always, man! Keep up the good work. This is front page material.

has anyone here tryed it?

This is a God-send. The Droid-X people may have done all the work, but you're the one who brought it to us Rogers Dream owners.
Quite a few friends will love this! (I refused to do the update or sign the waiver, I was lucky and got a refresh before they stopped giving them out)

It worked for me, although the only rom that's successfully booted is CM5. I've tried a handful of others and they all hang at the rogers screen, any idea why?
DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA21000)
RADIO-3.22.26.17

FlyingToilets said:
It worked for me, although the only rom that's successfully booted is CM5. I've tried a handful of others and they all hang at the rogers screen, any idea why?
DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA21000)
RADIO-3.22.26.17
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Unless you change your radio to a 2.x version, you require EBI1 roms. EBI0 roms won't work.

FlyingToilets said:
I've tried a handful of others and they all hang at the rogers screen, any idea why?
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Tell us the rom and someone can see if there is an ebi1 port (sometimes called 32a port) or create one if the dev blessed us with access to their kernel source (or who's binary kernel is in use and we find the original source)
Otherwise lookup fastbooting an ebi0 radio on your rogers dream (if your carrier is rogers also look up the wavier forum)
If you are confused stick with the ebi1 cm5.0.8 until you are sure how you want to proceed. You may however want the text patch in my sig.

ezterry said:
Tell us the rom and someone can see if there is an ebi1 port (sometimes called 32a port) or create one if the dev blessed us with access to their kernel source (or who's binary kernel is in use and we find the original source)
Otherwise lookup fastbooting an ebi0 radio on your rogers dream (if your carrier is rogers also look up the wavier forum)
If you are confused stick with the ebi1 cm5.0.8 until you are sure how you want to proceed. You may however want the text patch in my sig.
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that whole waiver thing seems unnessicary i never signed one and never lost data nor did i apply the update. i just ignored it and rogers ignored me, but i recently cancelled my data plan i wonder if they would allow me back on one :/
but either way for ebi1 kernal bcrook is the man to see http://twitter.com/bcrook88
personally i switched and never looked back

It is working excellent so far!!!
SPL 1.33.2005, Amon Ra 1.7.0
update: CM 5 is working great too. I haven't tried the nightly builds yet, but with the big thing in 2.2 being JIT, and hearing that it'd be stupid on the Dream, 2.1 is great for now!
If anybody needs a step by step, I wrote one up:
Post 911 to CM 5.0.8

@lbcoder and exterry, Yeah I had a feeling it might be the radio, but this is the first time I've touched my dream in seven months so I've forgot a lot and wasn't completely sure haha. Thanks for your quick replies though, I'll probably just downgrade my radio then. Is there any advantage to the new radio? Or was it made just so rogers could keep track of who did and didn't do the 911 update?

Just successfully got a oem replacement dream that had the e911 fix applied at the factory rooted with this. Huzzah!
EDIT: Now, while this is great for our needs, it should most likely be patched _immediately_. I get the feeling that it could be utilized to create all sorts of malicious applications.

Thanks I was about to JTAG
Works great!!!!

[Q] *NEEWB ALERT* better battery life with new kernel?

hi
im kind of new to som of this, although i have knowledge about root and custom roms, ive come across something i've never considered before, namely kernel :/ as i understand that the right kernel can extend your battery life and such, i get raather curious about wich kernel i should use or if i actually would benefitt at all.
at the moment i have icecoldsandwich 2.0.0 custom rom installed with CM9 kernel (installed it 30 min ago so havent had time to check battery performance on this rom).
what should i do? would i benefitt from another kernel?
cheers, and thank all of you for engaging in this community ive learned alot from just reading

you can't change kernel on CM9 coz there's none compatible with that ROM apart the one shipped with it; that rom is in deep developement you have to wait a while if you want other compatible kernels.
cheers

willywally93 said:
you can't change kernel on CM9 coz there's none compatible with that ROM apart the one shipped with it; that rom is in deep developement you have to wait a while if you want other compatible kernels.
cheers
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Yep. All the ROMs have their preferred kernel anyway so you don't have much choice when it comes to kernels (at least not in the desire s section, not to say there's anything wrong with our kernels, Lowveld has done an amazing job with the kernels).
AOSP- Reaper kernel
Sense 3.5 - Endymion Kernel
Sense 3.0 - Hyperion Kernel
There are also two more kernels, Tiamat for AOSP and Unity v9 for sense. However, both these kernels are outdated now.

i see
well.... i have a reaaaaaal good feeling that there will be released a new version of the tiamat kernel veeeeeery soon :>
not sure if im allowed to say more :3 ive got my hands on something awesome

Silenti91 said:
i see
well.... i have a reaaaaaal good feeling that there will be released a new version of the tiamat kernel veeeeeery soon :>
not sure if im allowed to say more :3 ive got my hands on something awesome
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Sorry, but i need proof to get excited!
Also, not to say you're not a trusted person, but you joined today! Trust has to be earned

dan-fish said:
Sorry, but i need proof to get excited!
Also, not to say you're not a trusted person, but you joined today! Trust has to be earned
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okey... but first answer me this ... is it okay to upload stuff like that before official announcement?

Silenti91 said:
okey... but first answer me this ... is it okay to upload stuff like that before official announcement?
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I wouldn't do it from a developer unless they gave you permission. But if it were from HTC I'd do it! I think a screenshot would suffice. Going to about phone can show you the kernel version.

dan-fish said:
I wouldn't do it from a developer unless they gave you permission. But if it were from HTC I'd do it! I think a screenshot would suffice. Going to about phone can show you the kernel version.
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okey here it goes
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proof

Silenti91 said:
okey here it goes
proof
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uhhhm,.... how do i upload pictures x)
w8 got it

Silenti91 said:
okey here it goes
proof
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EDIT: got there
Wow sounds awesome! Now you've got me excited
But still I wouldn't release without permission from cayniarb

dan-fish said:
EDIT: got there
Wow sounds awesome! Now you've got me excited
But still I wouldn't release without permission from cayniarb
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no are u crazy ^^ its his work so it should be him that releases it im just happy he gave the file to me ^^,
i can say the kernel seems to work great so u have reason to be excited

Silenti91 said:
no are u crazy ^^ its his work so it should be him that releases it im just happy he gave the file to me ^^,
i can say the kernel seems to work great so u have reason to be excited
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Well congrats! I hope to see it around soon

dan-fish said:
Well congrats! I hope to see it around soon
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yes his download section is down atm so maybe it showes up when it gets back online shouldnt be long at least

[Q] How to downgrade my Desire s from ICS back to GB

Hey all im new to posting here so if I have posted in the wrong section I do apologise in advance also im not very technically minded when it comes to Android so if i seem quite newbish please don't hate, I recently upgraded my desire s to ICS using HTC ruu becuase vodaphone UK where taking the absolute mick in rolling out the ICS update so i did it myself but now i want to re root my phone but am unable to find any infomation on how to root a ICS desire s the only info i can come up with is if i am on gingerbread so i see no alternative then downgrading back to GB to root my phone i have a gingerbread vodaphone uk kernal but have no idea how to flash my phone with it so i was wondering if anyone could help me either root my ICS desire s or downgrade my desire s back to GB so then i can root it easily cheers for the help in advance

here, read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950413&highlight=downgrade+ics+gb
which lead to this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876188&page=4
reading the index thread is highly recommended before proceeding as to know what is it exactly u are doing at each step.

I agree that ubadito should have read and make sure he understood what he was doing and where he was going before blindly proceeding to flash the ICS RUU. Too many people go headfirst into flashing a RUU or a custom ROM without asking themselves a minimum set of questions and make sure they have the answers before proceeding : Will I loose my data, and how to avoid it if I don't want to ? Will I be able to go back to my previous ROM in case of problems with the new one ? Will I loose my warranty ? What is the best path to follow for me ?
I sometimes think that SimonTS is a bit rude with is answers, but I must agree with him on the substance of is message. If there were less people asking the same basic questions again and again it would be easier for everyone to find the information they are looking for instead of wasting time reading the same questions again and again.
That said, @ubadito you can indeed gain root without having to go back to GB first. Here are the steps to follow :
- HTCdev unlock your bootloader. This is now mandatory for you as your on ICS ; even if you'd want to go back to GB you'd have to unlock your hboot. You had the choice to S-OFF without HTCdev unlock before flashing the ICS RUU but now it's too late and, if your DS is still under warranty, you will loose it.
- flash 4ext recovery by using fastboot ; you can use 4ext Recovery Updater in order to download the recovery image on your DS, but it won't be able to install it. You'll have to copy it on your PC and flash it with fastboot.
- flash SuperSU from 4ext recovery.
You'll then be able to get root access on your DS and modify your build.prop in order to correct the link issue.
All those steps are explained in detail on XDA. All you have to do is read the stickies and make sure you understand before going on.

yaonos said:
I sometimes think that SimonTS is a bit rude with is answers, but I must agree with him on the substance of is message.
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If you've got a problem with me then bring it to me in PM - but don't raise my name in a thread that I deliberately refused to respond to
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You've only been a member here for a month so I really don't think that you are in a position to do something like that - I quite willingly take criticism from some of the people on here (they are well aware who they are) and admit when I am wrong.
I have had enough of trying to point people in the right direction when they refuse to search or read first. I'll leave it for all the recent comers to the forum who haven't got annoyed enough yet with the same repeated questions over and over again, or who actually feel that they look good by getting a "Thanks" on their meter.
I will continue to attempt to help those who have a genuine question which couldn't be answered quickly by searching, but the others can flounder in whatever mess they get themselves into as far as I'm concerned.
When I first joined XDA it was to assist in gaining S-Off and root on my DS - back then the only way to achieve this was with a piece of hardware called an XTC-Clip - and if you didn't follow the instructions perfectly and know/understand EXACTLY what you were doing then you were almost guaranteed to end up with a brick. I didn't go posting stupid questions or asking people to tell me step-for-step what I had to do. I read the stickies, read the threads, found out what the pitfalls were, what I needed to prepare in advance, what might happen, how to get round it - and then after about 3 weeks of solid reading I went ahead and gained S-Off and root with no problems.
There are some really good people on the DS forums still, but the majority have moved on to new devices, as I have. I despair for the future of XDA if the current trend continues - it's not just on the DS forums, but is widespread across the entire site and the Mods don't seem to be willing/able to clamp down and do what should be done to prevent this place destroying itself.

I didn't mean to offend you. My apologies if I did. As I tried to say I agree with you and I really appreciate your contributions. English is not my mother tongue and I may have used inappropriate words.
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