Tablet and phone combos and deals? - General Questions and Answers

Its phone upgrade time for me here in the UK.
I thought I'd share my recent thoughts on the current mobile environment from my perspective. I have got myself thoroughly confused looking for info on this so I hope I can gain some insight from the tech aware users of XDA.
I have a good handle on HTC and Asus but that has taken about a week of digging and I'm tired so I thought I'd post here.
Currently I do not own a laptop (just a gaming PC) and i have a Desire original.
I use the web enough on my phone when at home instead of my PC to now be annoyed by the screen size so I think its time for a tablet.
So I need a new mobile contract, a phone and a tablet and as usual I want the best spec for the least money.
I'll start with phones.
My desire is wicked but its been over two years of married bliss and I've dropped it so many times its bound to go wrong the minute I rely on it.
For a replacement I think 4.7 inches is too large for a phone, especially when most domestic browsing can be done on a tablet/laptop/PC.
Now the next level of power is available with the Tegra3 and S4 CPUs. I don't think content developer have fully utilised the dual core chips so I'm almost sure the next 2 years of content will not really push the capabilities of the Dual core chips into obsolescence.
The Sg2 has been the best handset out there but is now a bit common and 4 of my friends have one. (I shun the herd)
Latest CPUs seem to come with 4.3 or 4.7 screens.
So I guess I'm looking at the 4.3 range.
OPtions
HTC One S
Padfone
other - will the Sg3 be 4.7 as rumored?
Have I missed a diamond of a dual core phone released in the past 12 months that will provide joy for the next 2 years?
Now tablets.
I'm not planning on watching hour after hour of film on it as I have a TV.
But I will watch a bit and I'm sure the odd long journey might use it a bit.
Current champion is the Transformer prime - best so far. (or the TF101 for the real bargain hunter)
BUT
Asus are bringing out the transformer infinity to fight the ipad 3 in the high resolution stakes
the pad300 for the lower end.
and the padfone.
What are the rumours form other companies.
I think I can cope with 720p video and I'm not much of a mobile gamer (thats why i have a PC)
How much to pay?
I can get a sim only contract that services my needs for £10.50/mnth
So thats £252 over 24mnths
HTC One S with probbly be £430-450 sim free
SG3 will be similar
The Transformer infinty costs £600 - too much
Pad 300 a mere £250
So sim (252), phone(450) and tablet(250) can be done for approx £950 over 24mnths
or
Carrier will give me phone and contract for £642 + £250 so £892 over 24mnths
or
Sim only (252) and a padfone (£530) £782 over 24mnths
So the padfone is the cheapest way to get a reasonably sized modestly powerful phone that is not the 'norm' and a tablet experience.
But what can the Pad 300 or a Transformer Tf101 offer that a padfone can't?
THe HTC one S and padfone are equally matched (apart form the sense UI that i am very at home with vs lack of SD slot and integrated battery issue)
What are the other options?
Have I missed any gems?
What would you do?

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Hush! If those android guys hear you they will revolt and melt you down with their laser eyes!
@olly230: I am in a somewhat similar situation with my Galaxy S. I need a new phone and I want a tablet. A Padfone gives you something very near to a full combination, just blocking you from simultaneous use of course, which might not matter at all if you are single. Besides, I like the design and features.
So I came to much the same conclusion - the only problem might be: it is getting delayed in Taiwan (3 weeks into May) and probable in Europe accordingly. Hopefully it is in stores by June, which is where my contract ends.

My contract is june as well!
(I'm not single though)
I'm the target market for the padfone but what if its sh1t?
I've been on sense UI for so long will asus android be horrible?
I could spend an extra 150 but I am a bargain hunter.
I could just get a desire S and a TF101 but I think the savings are not worth the loss of product longevity.

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(I'm not single though)
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Me neither, guess I might have to share my Padfone with the kids now and then.
I'm the target market for the padfone but what if its sh1t?
I've been on sense UI for so long will asus android be horrible?
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It very probably won't be outright "sh1t", but especially for you it might take some getting used to. Stock UI has improved a lot with ICS, and you can always install another launcher and a bunch of widgets to recreate many of the things you might expect but arent' there or different.
I was happy to get rid of Touchwiz completely, running a somewhat stock ICS now on my SGS. But I don't like the stock launcher too much, been using Go Launcher EX (free in Play Store) for quite a while and very happy with it. I don't use many widgets, because RAM is already tight and I don't really need them.
I could just get a desire S and a TF101 but I think the savings are not worth the loss of product longevity.
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If you go that way, you should probably wait for the TF300, it will be a worthy successor and also quite cheap.

these 1st world problems eh?
Got clean water, food and safe roof over my head and I can still find ridiculous things to make me unhappy.

Couple things:
1) Unless you spend a lot of time HD gaming on your phone/tablet, the Padfone's S4 chip is actually stronger than the quad-core chips.
2) Asus is very very good with updates, they stick with stock OS, and their "bloat" consists of a few very useful apps like "OneNote" and "Library".
3) All batteries in all devices in the Padfone system charge the phone at the core.
4) It comes with the coolest stylus in existence. ^_^

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this thread is now not closed (thank you mr ORb)
I'm still interested in others opinions on this situation.
After a few days thought and calculation I think i'm going with the new kid on the block , the padfone
Although i will still probably change my mind a million times between now and mid june

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question about buying a tablet

Hi peeps been looking around at the android tablets on the market and wondering if i should take the plunge?.Thought i would ask here as you guys probably have more experiance than most.Can you recomend a couple?, i'm not looking to spend a fortune just want something that covers most bases and doesnt struggle to run the usual suspects.HDMI out would be a plus but any ideas you can offer or just give me ideas on what not to buy.Any helps good, thanx in advance.
I have a smoldering interest in a tablet as well but I will continue to hold off as my Lenovo X61t and Windows Phone compliment each other pretty well and I don't "need" one.
However, I have taken note of the Archos' that were just released. The general feeling is that they feel cheap in build quality but the price and performance is right there. This is engadgets take on the two tablets they have.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/24/archos-70-and-101-internet-tablet-review/
I have used the Samsung Galaxy S and it is a nice device. Gotta be honest though, nothing seems to be "more complete than the ipad", just in terms of docks, jailbreaking, best apps, etc.
There are so many 'knock offs' in this category, let us know what you find!
I agree in the upset front, it's a great piece of kit but I refuse to spend that kind if money. Have found plenty of cheap ones, and I don't mind the price tag but most are just a bit gutless lol. But yeah likewise bring the info if you find something good.
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Back again, on the subject off cheapo knock off tablets have you seen the a-ok pad lol now don't laugh. I could be persuaded to gamble on something as (shall we say rough) if it ticked the right boxes. Anybody heard if them? Any horror stories?
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Buying a new tablet
I'm in the market for a tablet, and have taken my sweet time for the last 3 months researching and looking for the best one to buy. I've done my fair share of research and now i'm asking you: Should I buy the ASUS Transformer Prime with the dock, od should i wait for samsung/htc/moto/lenovo/acer... next-gen tablet? My fear is you see, that I'll buy The Prime, and that it won't be supported by some software develeopers, and left out in the cold with some apps, or not on par with the next-gen 2012 tablets. I want the best hardware specs, possible future windows 8 compatibility, preferably tegra device, 3g isn't a must, nor GPS but preferred. I don't mind waiting for a few more months since this would be my first tablet, wich i don't really need. NO IOS/IPad talk please, android tablet only (but like i said, with a possibility of win8 in the future). Any reasonable advice is more than welcome, and thank you all very much in advance!
IIRC Asus Prime will begin getting ICS/4.0 Jan 12th.
With that said, I would definitely play around with one before buying. Numerous reported issues that can't really be fixed through OTA's or software. (GPS, WIFI, light bleed, glass/screen loose from rest of tab).
Typical Asus if you ask me, crapshoot on quality.
Also depends on what you want in a tab. If you don't really want to play around/mod/customize then I think the Ipad 2 or hold out a couple of months for an Ipad 3 would be your best bet.
If you have to have an Android you have one of two options. Wait for more quad core tabs to be released, or start looking at what's available now.
Samsung 7.0 Plus is probably the best out for 7"ers.
For the 10"ers it's a toss up right now. Galaxy Tab 10.1 has good support, decent performance, light, easy to hold, good screen, great speakers (for a tab). It's cons to me are the Tegra 2 isn't up to snuff with Honeycomb OS.
The HP Touchpad is a great buy for the OS and specs, and can also be ported to Android (Still need to play with one)
Asus Transformer TF101 is also a good buy but again a crapshoot on quality but can be had for a good price.
The new Moto Xyboards are getting good reviews but they are overpriced for what they are, are only sold through VZW and were "technically" outdated before they were even released. Also locked bootloaders are never fun if flashing kernels are your thing.
Right now I'm looking at getting another tab so I guess you could say I'm in the same boat as you. I have an OG Galaxy Tab 7 on the way b/c I got it cheaper than cheap and just wanna play with it.
Considering picking up an 8" Xyboard also.
ETA: I probably won't pick up a Xyboard however until they come down in price or a WiFi only version is offered.
The SGT 7.7 also sounds promising. Decisions decisions.
First of all, thank you for the fast and torough reply... And yes, sweet sweet decisions
I forgot to say that I'm in the market for a 10" minimum tablet, don't want smthng smaller 'cause i allready have an SGSII so I'm covered for mobility.
As for ASUS's build quality, like I said I never owned a tablet so I definately will try out/play with one for a couple of hours before purchasing, and watch out for the screen bleed on an ips display. But currently most of my pc's componens (2xmobo, 2xgraphic cards, and a lappy) are ASUS made and i must say i'm more than satisfied with them, and as I recall, when I was buying my SGSII there was talk about screen burn-in, overheating and wifi problems too, but I haven't had a single one with my device. Besides that, I don't really need GPS or 3g in a tablet so it's not a dealbreaker with me on The Prime.
The problem is: I wouldn't buy any other tablet now existing in the market, mostly because of the Tegra3 chipset The Prime has, so if I'm paying a hi-end device (around 700$) i want the latest and fastest performer in the ring. And yes, in my book that is android only, as i find apple's devices a bit limiting sometimes (without any fanboyism, I come from a long line of iphones before my android). The things I'm worried hardware-wise are: the amount and speed of Prime's RAM (1gb od ddr2), possible wifi signal problems, screen bleed, and that it's topheavy when docked (a minor thing really). I love that it has a full USB 2.0 port, so you don't need a jack/ adapter of some kind (e.g. like on a SGSII microUSB to full USB). Not really worried about the one speaker layout eather, altough i was a bit dissapointed since the TF101 had a stereo layout, but still, not a dealbreaker (hey, it's still a tablet)...
Now you may laugh at this seeing your sig, but in my mobile history (25+ phones) the worst were accually motorolas (v3 being the worst of the lot, but than again A925 was more than excellent) I'm not so fond of HP either, last month i sold my DV6 3020em, (that's the i7 touchscreen version for Europe since i'm european), and i can say it was utter rubbish, overheating, shoddy build quality, squeaky, noisy fans, you name it... That's why I sold it, but it had a touchscreen which was more than handy, and that's why i want a tablet, I just might look a bit more into the HP touchpad after all.
Acer is great quality for it's price, really great. But I only had Acer's laptops, and the Iconia tablet is as ugly as a bullfrog from chernobyl, so I wouldn't want one.
Tf101 is ugly too by my standards, too big as well, but the looks aren't so important if it was an excellent performer, which none of the now available androids are compared to The Prime (at least not on honeycomb).
I played with samsung 8.9 a few days ago and I can report is't a great little device, thin, capable, satisfying all in all, but i'd like a bigger screen, and a real keyboard and it's not a tegra device (I play a lot of games so i'd like the tegra zone, as chainfire's plugins don't support all tegra tweaked games)
Now I do like to install a new ROM every few weeks on my SGSII but i srsly don't think that will be the case on a tablet (except Win 8, when it comes out).
So i guess the question remains: should i wait for Samsung's next gen 10.1 answer or just go with the prime now
P.S. sorry for my poor english
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First of all, thank you for the fast and torough reply... And yes, sweet sweet decisions
I forgot to say that I'm in the market for a 10" minimum tablet, don't want smthng smaller 'cause i allready have an SGSII so I'm covered for mobility.
As for ASUS's build quality, like i said i never owned a tablet so I definately will try out/play with one for a couple of hours before purchasing, and watch out for the screen bleed on an ips display. But currently most of my pc's componens (2xmobo, 2xgraphic cards, and a lappy) are ASUS made and i must say i'm more than satisfied with them, and as I recall, when I was buying my SGSII there was talk about screen burn-in, overheating and wifi problems too, but I haven't had a single one with my device. Besides that, I don't really need GPS or 3g in a tablet so it's not a dealbreaker with me on The Prime.
The problem is: I wouldn't buy any other tablet now existing in the market, mostly because of the Tegra3 chipset The Prime has, so if I'm paying a hi-end device (around 700$) i want the latest and fastest performer in the ring. And yes, in my book that is android only, as i find apple's devices a bit limiting sometimes (without any fanboyism, I come from a long line of iphones before my android). The only thing I'm worried hardware-wise is the amount and speed of Prime's RAM (1gb od ddr2), possible wifi signal problems, screen bleed, and that it's topheavy when docked (a minor thing really). I love that it has a full USB 2.0 port, so you don't need a jack/ adapter of some kind (e.g. like on a SGSII microUSB to full USB). Not really worried about the one speaker layout eather, altough i was a bit dissapointed since the TF101 had a stereo layout, but still, not a dealbreaker (hey, it's still a tablet)...
So i guess the question remains: should i wait for Samsung's next gen 10.1 answer or just go with the prime now
P.S. sorry for my poor english
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Don't jump the gun on the Prime until stock has settled in, right now retailers are price gouging due to low availability. The Prime should be $500 for the 32GB, $600 for the 64GB, not $650-700 for the 32GB.
I have a Transformer and an Iconia Tab A100, and I can tell you from first hand experience that the build quality isn't nearly as bad as the above poster is making it out to be. I actually like the finish on both the original Transformer and the Iconia series a lot, and the Prime seems to be a winner also. Another thing to consider for both ASUS and Acer is that they keep their Android releases relatively 'vanilla' except for a few bloatware-type apps of their own, unlike Samsung and HTC, who just can't help themselves but smear TouchWiz and Sense over everything they produce.
The only real reported issue with the Prime appears to be the GPS accuracy, but at least to me, it's a non-issue, since I disable GPS and bluetooth on everything.
The Windows 8 bit is yet to be seen, porting a device to another OS is something you can hope, but never hold your breath for. We've yet to see how Windows 8 distribution is going to work and remember that even if you do install Windows 8 down the road, it doesn't mean that you'll be able to run all windows-based programs, since mobile devices use ARM CPUs, and everything written for windows right now is made for x86 CPUs, so it will be up to each third party to rewrite their programs for compatibility.
Although I would never write out a company with pockets as deep as microsoft, they have proven time and time again that they are unable to compete in the mobile segment, so I don't see Windows 8 with as much hope and awe as many others do. (Especially since Ice Cream Sandwich is the first Android iteration we can really call "excellent")
TL;DR - If you can find a Prime for a decent price, then it's an amazing device to be had for a very reasonable price. If you plan on waiting, then checking out the upcoming Iconia A700 isn't a bad idea either if the dock isn't that important to you.
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Don't jump the gun on the Prime until stock has settled in, right now retailers are price gouging due to low availability. The Prime should be $500 for the 32GB, $600 for the 64GB, not $650-700 for the 32GB.
I have a Transformer and an Iconia Tab A100, and I can tell you from first hand experience that the build quality isn't nearly as bad as the above poster is making it out to be. I actually like the finish on both the original Transformer and the Iconia series a lot, and the Prime seems to be a winner also. Another thing to consider for both ASUS and Acer is that they keep their Android releases relatively 'vanilla' except for a few bloatware-type apps of their own, unlike Samsung and HTC, who just can't help themselves but smear TouchWiz and Sense over everything they produce.
The only real reported issue with the Prime appears to be the GPS accuracy, but at least to me, it's a non-issue, since I disable GPS and bluetooth on everything.
The Windows 8 bit is yet to be seen, porting a device to another OS is something you can hope, but never hold your breath for. We've yet to see how Windows 8 distribution is going to work and remember that even if you do install Windows 8 down the road, it doesn't mean that you'll be able to run all windows-based programs, since mobile devices use ARM CPUs, and everything written for windows right now is made for x86 CPUs, so it will be up to each third party to rewrite their programs for compatibility.
Although I would never write out a company with pockets as deep as microsoft, they have proven time and time again that they are unable to compete in the mobile segment, so I don't see Windows 8 with as much hope and awe as many others do. (Especially since Ice Cream Sandwich is the first Android iteration we can really call "excellent")
TL;DR - If you can find a Prime for a decent price, then it's an amazing device to be had for a very reasonable price. If you plan on waiting, then checking out the upcoming Iconia A700 isn't a bad idea either if the dock isn't that important to you.
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Tnx for the reply, and I have to say I think you misunderstood me. I don't think I said anything bad about acer's or asus's build quality just HP's (and only the perticular model of the DV6 I had), just that they're a bit on the ugly side, but that's totally a subjective stand, and irrelevant to anybody else.
As far as Prime's price goes, it should be available in Croatia, about 2hrs drive from my home in 10days for less than 700$ with the dock for the 32gig version, which is not a bad pricetag considering where I live, and I'm ready to give that kind of money for it. The dock is accually something i like about the Transformer, and it would probbably be a dead heat between TF101 just because of the dock) and the Sammy 10.1 if it weren't for the prime.
GPS, like I said, I don't mind. The SGSII has a great GPS reciever which i hardly ever use, maybe 6 times since i got it in july.
As far as ARM windows goes, I know what to expect from it , nothing special, but it would be nice to have that option when it's available
So you are happy with the TF101 and the Iconia? But would you recommend buying now the Prime if I'm happy with the price? I should mention I probbably won't buy it before ICS, and I'll try to get a hold of a stock ICS one when it's out after Jan. 12. because I want to make sure i missed the first version shipment
I believe you about Motorola. Until my Droid X I have ALWAYS hated Motorola. I never had a phone that worked right after some wear and tear and always had problems. From before smartphones thru the Droid 1, 2, and 3. (Went through multiples of those). I'm also a Samsung and HTC fan.
I've never had a problem with Asus computer components myself, w/ that said, there are quite a few complaints when it comes to the TF201 on quality. With that said, you, as I'm sure you do, have to take into account the dissatisfied ones are always going to moan and groan much more and louder than the happy customer.
I guess I just wish it was like cars when it comes to Tablets and would love for them to let me take the exact tab I'm looking to buy for a test drive. (Not leave the store but just open the box and get a good look at it and test everything to make sure I'm getting what my hard earned money is paying for).
I really want a TF201, but I'm going to wait til a few more Tegra 3 tabs come out. I really think Motorola would have hit a homerun if they would have put a quad core in their Xyboards and kept the price what they're charging now.
The three tabs I'm really torn between right now are the Xyboard 8.2, TF201, and Samsung 7.0 Plus. But man we are so close to seeing quad core as the new standard for tabs so the other part of me just wants to sit it out and wait.
So true what you said about the sitting and waiting for the quad core as the new standard, but on the other hand, HOW BAD DO WE WANT ONE!?!
Personally for me it's no competition between the Prime and other tablets, the Prime is just on another planet.
This morning the store answered my email saying that the Prime will be available mid january (in about 10 days) and said that maybe they could reserve one for me because of the small supply, but said the price may be different depending on the usd/euro stocks, but under 700$ for the 32gig version with dock...
Still I'm not planning on buying one before a test drive like you said (mostly to check for screen bleed). And yes, I took into account the moaners which is true like you said again...
I think I wathched every single review/comparison of the tablet on youtube, and read at least 10 reviews online, and it's all mostly positive.
I'll update as soon as i get my hands on a test one, hopefully in about 10 days.

[Q] Xoom or Xoom 2?

Hello All,
I'm soonish going to be in the position to finally get my hands on a tablet! Wanted to for a while and should have a chance and last due to a huge amount of work coming in.
Anywho, down to business.
I've been doing my research and I can see that the Xoom is a powerful and decent tablet, now with ICS in many flavours for any Android Adventureres such as myself. I also notice it has 1Ghz CPU and know the general spec.
I see the Xoom 2 has come out, and it has a 1.2Ghz CPU as well as an improved screen supposedly but lacks features such as the expandable storage.
My question is would you say to get the Xoom or the Xoom 2? The Xoom 2 has the faster CPU but can the original be overclocked to match? What would you recommend?
Research is good but I thought personal opinions would be even more useful
Thanks in advance!
I'm running the latest EOS ICS ROM at 1.6 Ghz on a Wifi Xoom, so I'm very happy. I'm not sure if you can unlock, root and customize the newer Xooms, which for me is a dealbreaker.
Personally I would take better hardware over better software any day - software changes, but hardware is fixed. One thing I have been disappointed with is the screen quality on the Xoom (compared to the Galaxy Tab and my HP Touchpad running CM9).
If I were buying tablet now I would choose either a Galaxy Tab (best of the last generation) or an Asus Transformer Prime, unless I spotted a huge bargain on another tablet.
Wow...since when does the Xoom 2 have better hardware than the original Xoom? No, in so many ways the OG Xoom is superior, and in build quality, particularly, actual users report the OG Xoom to be superior to everything currently out there, including the TPrime, due to massive light bleed on the Transformer's beautiful IPS screen.
I'd take the xoom because it has stock android unlike the xoom 2. Also the xoom is probably cheaper. Better build quality and better development. So I'd say xoom
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On Xoom 2, no SD card slot is a deal breaker for me :
- no expandable memory
- no way to easily tranfer file from a PC or any other device (camera).
Also the Xoom 2 does not have a Tegra processor, which means you may face software incompatibility.
The build quality of xoom 2 is great, is much better tablet than any last generation tablet. (great screen slim, great wifi and gps, best speakers). The software is good but the lock bootloader is killing any customizations that android can have with custom kernels and roms. The cpu is good enough (much better than Tegra 2) but if want to play games in your tablet is not the best option out there because lot's of games are optimize only for tegra devices.
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Personally I would take better hardware over better software any day - software changes, but hardware is fixed. One thing I have been disappointed with is the screen quality on the Xoom (compared to the Galaxy Tab and my HP Touchpad running CM9).
If I were buying tablet now I would choose either a Galaxy Tab (best of the last generation) or an Asus Transformer Prime, unless I spotted a huge bargain on another tablet.
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Maybe if we were talking about PC's I'd be inclined to agree, but with respect to mobile devices, that comment is completely ignorant. in my experience with mobile devices, hardware doesn't mean snot if the software running on it is complete buggy garbage. Xoom 1 is the only tablet of the first generation I would spend a penny of my hard-earned money on. Maybe if my parents were footing the bill I'd have a vastly different opinion. Who knows?
Thanks for all your advice guys, I'll bear it in mind
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I would suggest skipping the original Xoom at this time. Still great hardware but with all the new Quad-Cores coming, why pay $$$$ for an old device.
AFAIK, Xoom2 is bootloader locked. So no go on Android Adventures there for a while.
My choice has been - Pickup a used Xoom for around $300. AND OR spend the $$$ for a new Transformer Prime.
The main issue with the original Xoom was its hefty weight. Mine compounded with the Ballistic Armor case probably checks in at 1/2 the weight of a loaded M4 Carbine. Holding it in your hands while reading for extended periods of time requires the mental discipline of Grasshopper.
al mon said:
I would suggest skipping the original Xoom at this time. Still great hardware but with all the new Quad-Cores coming, why pay $$$$ for an old device.
AFAIK, Xoom2 is bootloader locked. So no go on Android Adventures there for a while.
My choice has been - Pickup a used Xoom for around $300. AND OR spend the $$$ for a new Transformer Prime.
The main issue with the original Xoom was its hefty weight. Mine compounded with the Ballistic Armor case probably checks in at 1/2 the weight of a loaded M4 Carbine. Holding it in your hands while reading for extended periods of time requires the mental discipline of Grasshopper.
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I never thought the Xoom was too heavy. Maybe I'm not as limp-wristed as some of those who complain. But with your same logic, I'd either get the Xoom now at a discounted price, or wait for the next GED in tablet form. Coming from a Droid line of phones, I will never again waste one hot cent on a locked device!
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I never thought the Xoom was too heavy. Maybe I'm not as limp-wristed as some of those who complain. But with your same logic, I'd either get the Xoom now at a discounted price, or wait for the next GED in tablet form. Coming from a Droid line of phones, I will never again waste one hot cent on a locked device!
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+1...I can't imagine having a locked bootloader. Where's the fun in that?

Trying to help a friend decide TF101G 3g vs Ipad 2 3g

Well the story is quite simple. A friend of mine is thinking of getting a Tablet, and due to the excellent marketing of Apple she thought an Ipad 2 could be a good buy.
Profile of my friend.
1) No previous experience with either iOS or Android
2) No smartphone (at least yet)
3) No tablet
4) No laptop at home - to my knowledge
5) Good experience in Windows environment systems
She would like to know what she can do with an Tablet, as her PC at work serves most her needs.
As typing on the screen is not as pleasant as the real thing, I suggested that maybe a Asus Transformer TF101g could be a good alternative to look at.
1) It is almost like a netbook with the keyboard
2) Great battery life
3) It still is a Tablet
4) I prefer Android, and she would not have to deal with iTunes to connect to the iPad 2
1) As you might understand, she will not be rooting, flashing or hacking it in any other way. Because I do not own either of the devices I would like to ask you what is the out of the box experience of the TF101g.
*I will probably help her upgrade to the ICS if it is an official update, so she doesn't loose the warranty, if you think it is worth it.
2) The main question, is TF101g 16gb + 3g + Keyboard worth buying in May/2012? The price I have found it is about 530 EUR new (unboxed) with 2year warranty.
The Ipad2 16gb + 3g is about the same price.
I thought of the 3G version as with a simple SIM card and a cheap internet plan (12 EUR for 2Gb/month prepaid in Belgium) she would have internet anywhere in the country, plus she has no internet at home. Do you think that 2Gb is enough for light internet surfing, e-mails and some facebook?
I would like to know what are your thoughts on this choice Ipad2 3g vs Asus Transformer 3g (TF101g).
3) What would the advantages and disadvantages be in getting the Asus over the Ipad.
Thank you all for you help.
I think it would be better to wait a while and get a series 300 transformer 3G.
http://www.asustablets.us/
Then you have a thinner form factor a and a nice Dual core Qualicom 1.5 for the 3g (tegra 3 chip for the wifi only) for 25$ less than a new transformer tf101g. Asus has really stepped up their game with this tab and its nice and colourful as compared to the brown 101 as well as a lot sleeker.
But at the same time the iPad has a larger market and more people know how to use them. (also talking about the ipad is a little bit against the rules here so i won't go into detail)(which version of iPad would she be getting?)
With the iPad you are garenteed updates for i think 3 years with no chance at all of upgrades past that whereas the transformers have a community behind them so after the officially supported 2 years + asus's devotion to all of their devices and the community i can see the tf300 being supported and up to the latest version for 3 or 4 years
"Friends don't let friends use iOS"
Thank you both for you replies. Regarding the new Asus Prime the price difference IDs still considerable and there is no 3g version yet.
I don't understand why it is forbidden to objectively describe the advantages of one advice compared to other.
It would be nice for her to see someone else other than me promote the Android Tablet compared to the iOS.
Is the TGIF101g sluggish for every day use or does IV'S need a tegra 3 CPU to be fluid. Does this version have any major hardware bug?
Thanks for you replies.
What smartphone is she likely to end up with? Get a system that matches that.
I would never own any Apple product (personal reasons) so I have an Android phone and Android tablet. I run the same apps on one as I do the other. I also only pay for apps once, and they run on both.
Hi Johev,
don't know if the month May is a must for you, but some where soon asus will start in europe with this thing (I hope)
http://www.asus.com/Mobile/PadFone/#overview
that way you can have both. Like worwig says, most of the time, your current smartphone dictates what kind of pad you choose.
I thing that the T300 that mrevankyle mentioned will be a nice machine for what your friend will use it for.
I, for one, love the keyboard dock with my TF pad. I do a lot of mail, and like the keyboarddock for this.
goodluck
ps: I'm also no Ipad fan, dont like apple dictating me what I can do with a machine.

Transformer Infinity Users!

New forum for this brand-spanking-new device? Why don't we introduce ourselves and start off the t700 community the right way?
Ill go first,
I've been a fairly active member of the Epic 4G Touch community here on XDA. I'm a rising senior at Kutztown University of Pennsylvania, and I've been waiting for a solid android tablet to replace my first generation iPad as my note-taking, homework-on-the-go, etc device. Planning on getting my t700 when it's released in a couple weeks (hopefully) and getting down with some custom ROMs!
Ok
I was really active in the HTC Fuze forum up until I got a iphone 4. I used to have a ipad for note taking and etc, but I always felt like it lacked something. Since the first generation ipad is now officially "obsolete" and wont be receiving any new updates or apps, I have decided to give android a go this time around.
Anyways I got to demo a TF300 today at Office Depot and I have to say I am fairly confident I will be happy with the Infinity. Assuming the higher pixel density does not impact the performance much.
I joined XDA last march when I got my Motorola Atrix, but I didnt really become an active member here until I got my Nook Color last June and loaded CM7 on it. A few months later the HP Touchpad firesale hit, resulting in me selling the Color for it. In retrospect getting the TP was a mistake, since it ruined 7" tablets for me (and thus now the Nexus 7) and started having some hardware issues that resulted in an on-going fight with HP's repair services. That's a long story though, and not one for here.
What is relevant is, to make up for the disaster that was the Touchpad I decided to get a TF300. Right as I was about to buy it though, rumors started flying around on the TF700 launching late June which made me decide to hold off. When the actual launch date and pricing were announced, I was somewhat caught off guard since it was cheaper than I expected.
As such, I'll be picking up a 32GB model with a dock (which I thought I wouldn't be able to afford given rumored pricing), running it rooted stock for about a month for warranty purposes and then loading it with CM9 and a Linux chroot. It'll replace my Touchpad as a light and portable way to take notes during classes as well as general couch surfing and lightweight productivity like writing papers, code, email etc.
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I was really active in the HTC Fuze forum up until I got a iphone 4. I used to have a ipad for note taking and etc, but I always felt like it lacked something. Since the first generation ipad is now officially "obsolete" and wont be receiving any new updates or apps, I have decided to give android a go this time around.
Anyways I got to demo a TF300 today at Office Depot and I have to say I am fairly confident I will be happy with the Infinity. Assuming the higher pixel density does not impact the performance much.
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Looks like we're both victims of ancient iPads lol
I joined XDA after getting an HTC Touch HD (Windows Mobile), then an HTC Desire HD (Android).
I started wanting a tablet about a year ago, but no Android model really seduced me, and anything by apple is a big NO. I got interested in the first Transformer and in the Prime, but the issues encountered by their users told me to wait.
Since the Infinity was announced, I have decided it would be the tablet to have.
I have been leeching on XDA for a pretty while, but became a more or less active member January last year when my LG O2x arrived. It was replaced by my tried-and-true SGS2 about half a year later (and donated to my then-fiancée -- I have flashed pretty much every custom ROM that came out, and have settled on SLIM for now).
I was looking for a tablet that could entertain me on my rather long commute to work (work shift-based in a hospital, with somewhere between 4.5 and 6 hours of (mostly train-based) commute per shift) -- before I mostly read on my e-reader; now, in addition, I browse the web and watch documentaries (or the incidental movie).
I got the TF700 before the actual release date (retail) and I am very happy with it. I must say that I am curious if the performance boost with a custom ROM will becomparable to that which I've seen on my SGS2. If so, then let me first brace myself, for it probably will knock my socks off.
Hi tf700 enthusiasts! I just pre-ordered my infinity from j&r and almost have gone completely insane with waiting months for the official release in USA.
I have never had a Tablet, and I am a bit nervous of any large monetary purchases. I was hoping to write my first post here with the knowledge that you guys here would provide great opinions, information, and support!
Looking forward to being a part of XDA!
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I have never had a Tablet, and I am a bit nervous of any large monetary purchases. I was hoping to write my first post here with the knowledge that you guys here would provide great opinions, information, and support!
Looking forward to being a part of XDA!
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium
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Hi smoshua, welcome to XDA! If you can cope with the occasional irate developer and intellectually blunt users, you'll be fine in here. I hope you haven't been diappointed already ('"you were hoping to write you first post... you guys would provide ... information and support"), hahaha!
As far as the price goes: yes, the TF700 is quite an expensive device, but you should also remember you are buying the best-specced Android tablet today. No better way to increase e-peen length that that.
Long-time Android user, mostly Samsung thus far, this will be my first tablet.
I became involved here on XDA when I bought my Droid Bionic back in September. Decided I wanted this tablet because it's a beast...and I need something to take to class and write notes on (the dismal battery life on my laptop makes that difficult...it's too powerful for it's own good ). I also really want something light to carry around as a mostly laptop replacement since this thing gets pretty heavy carrying around...I'll keep it for more power hungry tasks and long writing sessions.
Hey all!
I´ve been using Android on both phone and tablet since August ´10 with the htc desire (currently running miui) and August ´11 with the tf101 (running Revolver). I´m atm selling my tf101 on ebay and bought my tf700 last week.
To be honest i´m a bit disappointed in the overall performance of the tf700 which feels almost identical of the tf101´s (which is a bit laggy sometimes) but maybe that will go away.
What would excite me to no end would be Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 running on the tf700.
I owned a Transformer Prime and ended up selling it on Ebay, but kept the keyboard with the intent of reusing it with the TF700.
My impressions so far with the TF700 are positive. GPS was important to me and I am pleasantly surprised by how much it has been improved. The strip at the top/back of the tablet looks well implemented and does not detract from the beautiful appearance of the device.
My only concerns are the I/O (slow copying of files into and out of the unit) and the jerkiness in Chrome makes it almost unusable.. probably just a setting or tweak somewhere.
Overall I am very pleased and not regretting the purchase like I did with the Prime.
If we get Jelly Bean things can only get better. :good:
tdp252 said:
I owned a Transformer Prime and ended up selling it on Ebay, but kept the keyboard with the intent of reusing it with the TF700.
My impressions so far with the TF700 are positive. GPS was important to me and I am pleasantly surprised by how much it has been improved. The strip at the top/back of the tablet looks well implemented and does not detract from the beautiful appearance of the device.
My only concerns are the I/O (slow copying of files into and out of the unit) and the jerkiness in Chrome makes it almost unusable.. probably just a setting or tweak somewhere.
Overall I am very pleased and not regretting the purchase like I did with the Prime.
If we get Jelly Bean things can only get better. :good:
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+1 on the JB my friend.
Sent from my Super Sexy Epic Touch rockin' "The Goodness"!
Hi All,
I have been a huge fan of tablet. In fact, I started using my very first tablet which was PC by HP like 7-8 years ago. Then bought ultraportable PC Tablet. When xoom came out I jumped on it. Then I switched to the Samsung Galaxy 10.1. Then went to iPad2. Got galaxy 10.1 back for awhile (this time with 4G). In an anticipation of Transformer Infinity I ended up selling my Galaxy 10.1. I believe I have done fair share of research and personal experience of tablet. I definitely enjoy Android Tablet over iOS due to its flexibility, and believe or not some apps are better on android (at least for what I do). Samsung was just too slow in terms of updating their OS, which was one of a big negative for me. Plus the build quality of the tablet was poor. Without any major physical damage I can think of, the plastic around the port broke off. So I was not going to go with Samsung again. Having seen phenomenal speedy update of ASUS, I was going to go with Infinity except.... IO issue seems a major one. So I will hold off and see if ASUS will fix this. But in the mean time, I will keep checking this forum as otherwise I wouldn't even have known such issue existed.
Leavin iPad2
Hi guys. Just like ya'll I'm standin around the beach waitin 4the launch.
Really just started messin with my 3D late April and the downgrade to get root and all that. Did the Newt rom and the ics and sense 4 were the hoot. I've gone back to stock waitin4 the official ics upgrade. Kinda fun playin around the innards of the 3D, if not abit like paintin by numbers, lol
Tablet wise I picked up the iPad2 when it came out. That was slightly before real android tablet action. I like the iPad2 but not the OS - I really feel at home with Android. I just put my iPad2(with my Apple goodies) and my AR Drone up on ebay. Figgure that'll cover most the cost of the 700 the way those iPad's hold resale value.
Bye bye Apple
Just like ya'll I'm standin around the beach waitin 4the launch
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I became involved here on XDA when I bought my Droid Bionic back in September. Decided I wanted this tablet because it's a beast...and I need something to take to class and write notes on (the dismal battery life on my laptop makes that difficult...it's too powerful for it's own good ). I also really want something light to carry around as a mostly laptop replacement since this thing gets pretty heavy carrying around...I'll keep it for more power hungry tasks and long writing sessions.
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Hi KilgerG,
when I read your text I had to laugh and read it loud to to my wife ;-) had the htd touch pro 2 (Windows Mobile), now have also the htc desire hd... For also a decent time, I cant wait to finally get a tablet. Apple was a no-Go, and not good Android tablets. Then the transformers came, but i read about their problmes. So no-GO. And the Infitnity... I ordered one week ago one and i cant wait ;-)
I just found this forum... hopefully I wont find anything here, that makes me thinking about buying the device really.
So I'm here as well.
My story is as follows
I started with a Nexus One because I was fascinated with the idea that you could change your OS on a phone. I didn't know at that time that it was already possible. I had no idea what an impact it would've on my life. But as you can imagine I got ORD quite fast.
When I owned the N1 I was a quite passive member and read a lot and just tried to learn all that stuff.
Then I bought the Nexus S and began to be a bit more active.
After the NS I bought the Galaxy S II which was my big mistake. I hate Touchwiz. CM was available though but it was always a bit buggy. So I ditched the SGSII as soon as the Galaxy Nexus came out.
With the Galaxy Nexus I started to become quite active. I'm currently a beta tester for the SLIM ICS/ Bean ROM.
And you'll see me from time to time in the CM threads because I'm really a big fan of their work.
I owned the TF101G before the TF700T. I liked it quite a bit but I came late to the game so that it was quite outdated when I bought it.
The biggest issue for me though was the low resolution. Use to the high resolution display on my GNEX it was really a pain to read on it.
That's actually the main reason why I bought the Infinity.
ATM I own just the tablet in gold but as soon as the dock is available I'll buy that too.
I'll use it mostly for reading, surfing, watching films on the go and writing my blog.
Mspeker38 said:
For also a decent time, I cant wait to finally get a tablet. Apple was a no-Go, and not good Android tablets. Then the transformers came, but i read about their problmes. So no-GO. And the Infitnity... I ordered one week ago one and i cant wait ;-)
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Same for me. I read through all the Prime desasters and luckily cancled my preorder before it was shipped.
Now I hope the Infinity has those things bugged out.
Can't wait till the grey version pad only is released here in Germany.
It is said to be next week.
Fingers crossed!
i wanna throw some links out and help discuss how fast tech is moving. Asus is taking the initiative to make tablets into ultra books. and microsoft is also starting in that direction.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/asus-tablet-600/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/asus-transformer-book/
with windows 8 on the horizon and these tablets running the full OS what do you guys recommend me doing ? i wanted to sell my laptop since i have a gaming computer and get something portable to take to class and stuff. use it to stream media and what have you. for 499 its releasing soon i want to get it buy a 32 gig sd card for the dock and be set !. super ips + is really important and the new hybrid tablets and docks are releasing with like 1300 by whatever resolution >_<
i dont want to get something that gets outdated fast but i feel like we are buying something experimental and this fall the real gadgets come out. even if i get it now will the resale value be enough to cover my loss and upgrade to tablets with i5 processors and same weight / cool design ?
I've been longing for a transformer mini (7" tab, full size dock) for some time. I thought the 370t might be the ticket, but instead of gaining a keyboard dock, it lost some extras and became the nexus 7. To add insult to injury, Asus came out after and told pocketlint there would be no transformer mini, apparently they couldn't imagine having a larger dock than tab, even though the empty bezel space would allow for generous front-facing speakers. I'll never understand why tabs direct sound away from the user when they're intended for multimedia.
Anyway, high res is a must (I'm a reader -- fuzzy text gets uncomfortable in long reading sessions), and netbook replacement is a must, and really only the infinity fits the bill. I'm looking forward to seeing just how well the screen performs outdoors. I'd prefer an efficient reflective solution like pixel qi or mirasol, but those can't seem to go primetime, so why not try and outshine the sun w. super ips+?
I'm a little disappointed there's no BT4, and wonder if the single GB of ram will be the first bottleneck to emerge as the device ages. I'm buying for the long haul. By the time I retire my infinity, the tablet category will no longer exist. We'll all have tegra X implanted directly into our brains and wired to our visual cortex.
But otherwise, I'm pretty excited. I came to XDA for XDAndroid on my winmo Touch Pro2. The transformer is the first android series with a better keyboard than that

Keep tf700 or wait for tegra 4?

I bought the tf700 about 2 weeks ago from best buy using the 50$ coupon that best buy messed up on. I actually bought it for 419 w/ tax going up to 450 which also includes the dock. Is this a good price for this? Well I have 2 weeks left for a full refund and I'm still debating if I should get a refund and wait for tegra 4 tablets or just keep it. There is slight flex on the screen which makes a clicking noise when I press on it but it doesn't really bother me. At first I was looking into ultrabooks but I gave tablet a try. Besides it's hard to find i5 ultrabooks for under 500. Help me decide!!
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I bought the tf700 about 2 weeks ago from best buy using the 50$ coupon that best buy messed up on. I actually bought it for 419 w/ tax going up to 450 which also includes the dock. Is this a good price for this? Well I have 2 weeks left for a full refund and I'm still debating if I should get a refund and wait for tegra 4 tablets or just keep it. There is slight flex on the screen which makes a clicking noise when I press on it but it doesn't really bother me. At first I was looking into ultrabooks but I gave tablet a try. Besides it's hard to find i5 ultrabooks for under 500. Help me decide!!
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That is a good price IMO.
I'd say this is a factor of your budget and how much you use your tablet. I got the first Android tablet, a Motorola Xoom, on launch day. I had it for a few months and used it a lot then decided to sell it prematurely in order to wait for the next best thing which in my eyes was an HD screen. Well I ended up having to wait almost a year before I got my next tablet, a TF700. That entire year I was kicking myself for not holding on to the Xoom until I actually had another tablet in my possession.
So I guess you have to ask yourself how important to you is having a tablet? At that price I'm guessing you could probably sell it for a ~$100 loss a few months down the road. Who knows though the next generation of tablets might take longer to come out, like the delay we had on the 1080P tablets. With that in mind, if I were you, I'd keep it!
$450.00 for tab and dock?
I'd say that's a good deal.
If the click bugs you trade that in for one that doesn't click.
Just picked up a TF700 myself and I was literally asking myself the same question. I've got a little less than 60 days to return this to BBY if another tab is announced for release soon.
I guess, there are a few things to consider.
1) Is the better performance/battery life of the new device going to be significant? If they jack up the resolution like the N10, it will probably be closer to par with the TF700.
2) Will a new tablet have any hardware issues (e.g. TF-Prime GPS & Wifi problems)? The TF700 is a mature product and it's limitations are well outlined. If you buy a TF700 now, you know exactly what you are going to get.
3) What new features will be on this Tab, and are they worth waiting for? TF700 has SDXC, mini HDMI, a dock with full USB, Full HD, etc. It's a good feature set. TF700 is a bit low on ram with only 1GB, I'd rather have 2GB. It's missing an integrated LTE modem that is said to be in T4, but TBH, I would always buy the wifi version anyway. Better battery life, I wouldn't pay for the extra data plan, and my phone is now tethering fine (thanks TrevE). N10 like resolution looks impressive on paper, but not so in person. I have good eyesight, and the difference isn't noticeable. It's an advertising point over the ipad. Google needs to stop chasing Apple and build more hardware features into their tablets that Apple didn't already do a year ago, but I digress.
4) Are there any applications you cannot run on the TF700 that a new tab would fix? I picked u the TF700 because my Touchpad (running CM9) keeps crashing skype; which I use daily. I run a somewhat recent nightly, and since the Camera fix (thanks for that Dorregaray) being able to use skype at all is awesome. However, having to reboot the tablet 6 times in a night and constantly mucking up the conversation is real pain. Since using the TF700, I haven't had one hiccup in skype. That is worth a lot to me, but a newer tab won't make it better.
Anyway, those are the things I've been mulling over. I will need to see what the new Transformer will look like before I make any kind of decision.
Edit: FWIW, I paid $468 for the tab & a 32GB micro sdxc card. I think you got the better deal.
Have they given a release date for any Tegra4 device? I thought one was shown at the last electronics show but it was still a development model and didn't mention anything about release times or price. You could be waiting awhile and in meantime if you keep the TF700 start stashing away some money monthly for the next wave of tablets. That could help on any loss you take or cover the difference to a model with more storage.
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1 - I don't think anyone can tell what the performance and battery life will be like right now. New devices and cpu's are marketed as more performance while reducing energy needs but the tech community needs products to test before accepting what is said as fact. Are Tegra4 chps supposed to run at the same power that today's Tegra3 chips do but have the better performance? That is a performance improvement while reducing the power needed if they were to make a Tegra3 to equal that performance. Someone may have a better answer regarding power saving but remember a bumped up screen size will probably draw more power anyway.
2 - Again probably hard to answer. Until the product hits the market we really won't know how it performs and what problems it may or may not have. It is a risk you take by buying the next and greatest device. Prime was the next and greatest device and we know how that turned out. We can only hope they get the message after 3 devices that they need better I/O components.
4 - As far as applications I think many people have issue with games that are released or already out and "not supported" by our device. It will take some time once a new device comes out for companies to tweak the code or whatever they do to have the games run on the device. That is done on their whim. Why some haven't not done now on the TF700 (Gameloft and EA) is a question I don't think anyone truly knows. Some guess it's screen resolution and they don't want to change the code to render the graphics properly for our device.
But really you can wait and wait and still not be satisfied because something else is a few months away. This technology is moving fast.
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But really you can wait and wait and still not be satisfied because something else is a few months away. This technology is moving fast.
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Well, I had really wanted a "Wayne" (Tegra 4) device, and was waiting for that to launch to replace/augment the touchpad. The marketing slides showing kepler tech integrated into the SoC is actually a little bit exicting to me. However, I took advantage of a time limited offer to get the TFI at a reduced price. I use google docs for invoicing clients, and the Touchpad wasn't handling that well enough for me to do it on site. I found myself just waiting to get home to do it & emailing an invoice back. The TFI with the keyboard dock provides an excellent solution, and I had considered getting an ultra book for this purpose, but at about half the price of the ultrabook I was looking at, while fulfilling essentially the same purpose, having the same size profile, and better battery life, well it seemed like the better bargain.
That said, if I could get my hands on a next gen transformer within the next 60 days, I'd likely trade this in, in a heart beat.
My opinion the TF700T is viable for a while longer.
Glad the FHD tabs didn't shoot of into a numbers game as quick as I thought they would.
All I can say is after the "lobotomy" lol...my tablet has been a satisfying adventure.
It's smooth no jitters, games well (light gaming), plays my Xfinity downloads without a hitch, wifi connects stays connected, gps is quick,
browser is hanging in there...etc.
Just for a bit of comparison:
I've side by sided the tablet with my 2 year old HP AMD A6 notebook, and for what it is the tab has about the same amount of annoyance that a Win7 notebook has.
Not comparing Windows to Android just noting all devices big and small can of course suffer glitchiness.
Once the system settles in and with a little restraint as far as collecting\installing poorly written apps the Infinity remains a buy at least for me.
Hopefully when the newer tabs start popping perhaps some of us hold-outs will benefit from a much better selection of HD tablet applications.
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Just picked up a TF700 myself and I was literally asking myself the same question. I've got a little less than 60 days to return this to BBY if another tab is announced for release soon.
I guess, there are a few things to consider.
1) Is the better performance/battery life of the new device going to be significant? If they jack up the resolution like the N10, it will probably be closer to par with the TF700.
2) Will a new tablet have any hardware issues (e.g. TF-Prime GPS & Wifi problems)? The TF700 is a mature product and it's limitations are well outlined. If you buy a TF700 now, you know exactly what you are going to get.
3) What new features will be on this Tab, and are they worth waiting for? TF700 has SDXC, mini HDMI, a dock with full USB, Full HD, etc. It's a good feature set. TF700 is a bit low on ram with only 1GB, I'd rather have 2GB. It's missing an integrated LTE modem that is said to be in T4, but TBH, I would always buy the wifi version anyway. Better battery life, I wouldn't pay for the extra data plan, and my phone is now tethering fine (thanks TrevE). N10 like resolution looks impressive on paper, but not so in person. I have good eyesight, and the difference isn't noticeable. It's an advertising point over the ipad. Google needs to stop chasing Apple and build more hardware features into their tablets that Apple didn't already do a year ago, but I digress.
4) Are there any applications you cannot run on the TF700 that a new tab would fix? I picked u the TF700 because my Touchpad (running CM9) keeps crashing skype; which I use daily. I run a somewhat recent nightly, and since the Camera fix (thanks for that Dorregaray) being able to use skype at all is awesome. However, having to reboot the tablet 6 times in a night and constantly mucking up the conversation is real pain. Since using the TF700, I haven't had one hiccup in skype. That is worth a lot to me, but a newer tab won't make it better.
Anyway, those are the things I've been mulling over. I will need to see what the new Transformer will look like before I make any kind of decision.
Edit: FWIW, I paid $468 for the tab & a 32GB micro sdxc card. I think you got the better deal.
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How did you get the 60 day refund period? On my best buy receipt it states 30 days hassle free returns. Also it's a little weird that my tf700 freezes and randomly reboots. It doesn't do it frequently but once in awhile it does that.....very weird. This is actually my second tablet because the first one had slight flex but the current one actually makes a small clicking noise too. Honestly it doens't really bother me but ASus def needs to work on their quality control
Personally, waiting for the next tablet from ASUS (I assume you want a Transformer tablet) will be a very painful experience. Our tf700 was announced at CES 2012 (in January 2012), but only became available for sale at least 4 months later (depend on your location). Given the fact that ASUS has not announced any successor to our Infinity yet, I am inclined to believe if there is a Tegra 4 tablet from ASUS, it will only be available to us on the second half of the year. I have been waiting for the Transformer Book for many months but it is still not available. To me, waiting for something that is not even announced yet is a waste of time and effort.
I would strongly reccomend this tab to anyone who needs something with similar functionality to a netbook or ultrabook but I am looking forward to see what will come next. I would love to see something with a little more power hit the same nitch and with about the same price point... I'm actually waiting on the razer edge tablet to see what it turns into. anyways, I plan on hanging on to my TF700 even if I do get an ultrabook or the edge.
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How did you get the 60 day refund period? On my best buy receipt it states 30 days hassle free returns. Also it's a little weird that my tf700 freezes and randomly reboots. It doesn't do it frequently but once in awhile it does that.....very weird. This is actually my second tablet because the first one had slight flex but the current one actually makes a small clicking noise too. Honestly it doens't really bother me but ASus def needs to work on their quality control
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Premier Silver. Drop enough cash at best buy and you get side benefits, like a doubled return period. Most of the the other benefits are less useful. I don't bother with the complimentary Geek Squad services, for example. Even if I wanted or needed their services (I don't), I still wouldn't use it. Mostly, that's just an opportunity for them to come into your home and look for things they can sell you.
Honestly. ...maybe a extra gig of ram would make this tablet perfect for me. The resolution is ideal for me and the speed is great (running CleanRom) and it does what I hope to get from it. And I use my note 2 for the extra stuff (multi window, nfc sharing etc). And to top that, the mobile giants still have not made 100% use of the quad core as it is and until then, asus infinity is a keeper.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Tegra-4-Wayne-Project-Shield-Nvidia-Grid-Fiscal-2013,21082.html
Tegra 4 isn't shipping until QTR 3 2013. Given that time frame, I'm reasonably happy with my purchase. If the SoC isn't even shipping until then, you won't see devices until QTR 4, and that's nearly a year away. No doubt there will be better performers from Qualcomm sooner than that, but even so, I'm happy with the device I have for now.
searched but haven't even found rumors on a successor - had the TFPrime before and since it got nicked I am waiting for sth new to play with.
Have started considering the Samsung Tab Plus (whenever announced) given the higher res. Still seems that the TF700 has enough muscles and the add keyboard (+battery) is clearly a plus...
Anyhow - have there been any news on the TF700 successor that I missed
Its becomming a bit rusty given the time its already in the market :laugh:
nellycruzz said:
Honestly. ...maybe a extra gig of ram would make this tablet perfect for me. The resolution is ideal for me and the speed is great (running CleanRom) and it does what I hope to get from it. And I use my note 2 for the extra stuff (multi window, nfc sharing etc). And to top that, the mobile giants still have not made 100% use of the quad core as it is and until then, asus infinity is a keeper.
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I have to agree about the extra gig of ram. But in response to the OP's question, yes that is a very good price. You could always dualboot it with rabbits' linux so as to gain some of the functionality that you would get with an ultrabook. The infinity will not become redundant for a while yet in my opinion so I say go for it.
For tablet with awesome dock integration the tf700 cant be beat. You also got a great deal on both. As far at Tegra 4 devices in particular Asus ones, no one knows yet when they will actually release one so you will have to play the waiting game. Vizio is the only one I know of that is coming out with one but not sold in the U.S. and doesn't have a keyboard dock option.
As someone mentioned the tf700 is a good laptop or netbook replacement. So if you're not going to play high graphic games on it like gameloft games then its a good tablet. But I do recommend you unlock and install custom rom on it as it lags quite a bit in stock form.
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The price is good, considering you got the dock with it.
Toastysoul said:
Just picked up a TF700 myself and I was literally asking myself the same question. I've got a little less than 60 days to return this to BBY if another tab is announced for release soon.
I guess, there are a few things to consider.
1) Is the better performance/battery life of the new device going to be significant? If they jack up the resolution like the N10, it will probably be closer to par with the TF700.
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Unless the device has a battery-powered dock, I'd suspect battery life is going to be on par at best -- expect it to be worse. This may not apply if the new device carries one of those funky new battery design which last for a week and are charged in 10 minutes, but those will only get on the market in about two years, they reckon.
2) Will a new tablet have any hardware issues (e.g. TF-Prime GPS & Wifi problems)? The TF700 is a mature product and it's limitations are well outlined. If you buy a TF700 now, you know exactly what you are going to get.
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Obviously true, and very significant remark. Any device will have its issues, and given the fact that the TF201 suffered from some of these as well, I'd not expect the next Transformer to be faultless either. :S
3) What new features will be on this Tab, and are they worth waiting for? TF700 has SDXC, mini HDMI, a dock with full USB, Full HD, etc. It's a good feature set. TF700 is a bit low on ram with only 1GB, I'd rather have 2GB. It's missing an integrated LTE modem that is said to be in T4, but TBH, I would always buy the wifi version anyway. Better battery life, I wouldn't pay for the extra data plan, and my phone is now tethering fine (thanks TrevE). N10 like resolution looks impressive on paper, but not so in person. I have good eyesight, and the difference isn't noticeable. It's an advertising point over the ipad. Google needs to stop chasing Apple and build more hardware features into their tablets that Apple didn't already do a year ago, but I digress.
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And the N10 has both QA and availability issues, for example.
Following your digression for a bit: Apple had already lost the innovation game in the tablet and smartphone worlds a few years ago. All they have done is increase screen size, and (sometimes) resolution.
4) Are there any applications you cannot run on the TF700 that a new tab would fix? I picked u the TF700 because my Touchpad (running CM9) keeps crashing skype; which I use daily. I run a somewhat recent nightly, and since the Camera fix (thanks for that Dorregaray) being able to use skype at all is awesome. However, having to reboot the tablet 6 times in a night and constantly mucking up the conversation is real pain. Since using the TF700, I haven't had one hiccup in skype. That is worth a lot to me, but a newer tab won't make it better.
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If anything, the older device will probably support more apps altogether -- if you have experienced the transitions from Froyo to Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich to Jelly Bean, you have noticed that we lost a lot of apps along the way that were pretty good in themselves, but just weren't given the TLC to update them to function on the new version. Backward compatibility is less of an issue when the programmer takes it into account when developing his/her app, but too often an app is just hacked together and subsequently, essentially, abandoned.[/QUOTE]

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