Samsung's Master Plan - Android General

Warning: There might be two possible interpretations of this post, either Samsung is a company full of strategic masterminds, hell bent on sabotaging their competition and capturing the mobile market; or I am stark raving mad.
While going through the latest leaks regarding the expected top-end Android devices to be launched at this year’s Mobile World Congress, I was overwhelmed with conflicting emotions. Both HTC’s One X and LG’s Optimus 4X HD seemed like stellar devices, with huge high-def screens, blazing quad-core processors, amazing cameras - in short, the whole shebang! But, one thought kept gnawing at me the whole time. No consumer would ever consider buying these devices before seeing what Samsung had in its arsenal!
Suddenly, Samsung’s whole master plan unravelled right in front of me. They are going to let their competitors do their thing and let them be happy releasing their shiny new quad-core devices in peace. The whole tech-journalism community would be alight with praises about how mind-blowing HTC’s One X is or how blazingly fast the 4X HD is, but as soon as their honeymoon period ends, BAM! Here comes the SGS III and takes away all the press and consumer attention right from under their noses! No phone, save the iPhone 5 is as insanely anticipated as the successor to the wildly popular SGS II and you could expect excessive fanfare to follow its release.
See, the point is that if Samsung had launched the SGS III at MWC, no matter how good, it would still be considered a competitor to the One X and 4X HD. Every tech site would have posts like “Android Showdown: SGS III vs One X vs 4X HD”. It would become one of the many of quad-core smartphones released at MWC. That is not what Samsung wants. What they want is to make it rise above the competition. By launching the SGS III a few weeks later, they ensure that tech sites would be rife with posts like “The Galaxy S III is the best smartphone ever made. PERIOD.”
And it seems like they are successful in their plans.
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Supposed Specs Of SGS 3
Quad-Core [email protected] 1.5 GHz
4.8'' Super AMOLED Plus HD [email protected] 720x1280 pixels
4G Enabled
12 MP Rear Camera
Samsung knows that even HTC & LG announced their Quad-Core flagship at MWC, it will still take them months to come to market. They will just wait for the MWC buzz to die down, and as soon as it does, not only will they announce the SGS III, but they’ll pull a page out of Apple’s book and release the device within a week! So basically, even though it would be announced after its rivals, the SGS III will be available on the market before them, completely decimating the competition. Let’s face facts; no consumer would skip out on buying the Samsung Galaxy S III to wait for an HTC One X or an LG Optimus 4X HD. Even if it is a minutely inferior device, its brand recognition, market buzz and market availability would propel it forward by leaps and bounds.
I reiterate, I might be completely insane and Samsung might just be waiting to finish up the device and make sure it’s awesome enough. But the fact that Samsung already plans to introduce Ice Cream Sandwich devices like the Galaxy Note 10.1, makes me pause for thought. If both the software and hardware components are ready, then why are they delaying it? Shouldn’t the successor to the most popular device they’ve ever had be a much higher priority than those of less successful devices? One can only wonder, but if what I think is true, then Samsung is one clever company indeed. Check mate, HTC and LG, check mate!

Well, I think you are assuming that ti whole world is a savvy tech freak like the members of this forum but the general masses don't care if their phone says samsung, LG or HTC. The general masses will never root or even install a custom launcher. The gen public will never us the phones to their current capabilities.
IMO Apple is in a whole different boat. Marketing savants that tell people how easy to use and friendly their devices are. They have built in traffic that heard together like sheep. Animal Farm anyone?
We know samsung makes stellar products but if they keep marketing in the US like they currently are we will continue to see a lack of buzz. Hell the GNex is one badass phone but people go Ino Verizon for a RZR and not a GNex... Marketing people - its a simple formula!
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Brand matters for the masses, or they'll buy cheap chinese stuff. And believe me, the hot topic in the tech world is none other than the S 2's successor.

quite frankly , i think HTC (and hopefully LG ) will have a bit advantage as they would be kind of settled in the market (& possibly dropped their price by a bit) by the time SGS3 has been released. It will all depend on experience SGS3 really offers (other than the configuration on papers rite now), i have used both Samsung & HTC and i would select HTC anytime for best android experience, price is the strong factor keeping sammy ahead of others. So let’s wait & watch

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Well, I think you are assuming that ti whole world is a savvy tech freak like the members of this forum but the general masses don't care if their phone says samsung, LG or HTC. The general masses will never root or even install a custom launcher. The gen public will never us the phones to their current capabilities.
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The Galaxy S series does have good brand-name value, though, maybe second only to the iPhone. Samsung may have realized that and taken a leaf out of Apple's book: allow the hype to take over. It has nothing to do with rooting or custom launchers, or geekiness.
I find the OP's story plausible. (Albeit exaggerating at times: consumers would and have bought the HTC One X.)

I would hands down buy the SGS3 over the HTC ONe X if they were released together, but the fact of the matter is that I hate waiting on this ghost device with all these so called great specs and samsung's track record does not sit to well with me right now.

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[Leak/Info] SGS 3 Video Teaser/Exynos 4 Quad

Video Teaser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NnVU8R6mAU
scott14719 said:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57...-galaxy-s-phone/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title
QuadCore it is...
That next Galaxy phone would likely be the Galaxy S3.
Other Exynos 4 Quad highlights that presage Galaxy S3 features:
•Full-speed video: uses HD 30 frame per second video hardware codec engine for 1080p video recording and play-back; also, includes an embedded image signal processor interface for a high-quality camera and an HDMI 1.4 interface.
•Speed jump: Owing to its 32-nanometer tech, the Exynos 4 Quad has "two times the processing capability over the 45-[nanometer] process based Exynos 4 Dual while consuming 20-percent less power," Samsung said.
•Ready to plug into new phones: Exynos 4 Quad is "pin-to-pin compatible" with the Exynos 4 Dual, allowing smartphone and tablet suppliers to adopt the new solution without additional engineering or design efforts.
•Based on ARM Cortex A9 design: Based on the current Cortex A9 tech from ARM. The latest and greatest ARM tech is called Cortex A15 but those chips won't emerge as commercial products for a while yet.
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hmmm
tomtommy306 said:
That doesn't look good at all if it's true.
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LOL! It does look like a clunky piece of junk, prototype or not. Samsung would be making a bad design move if they took a leap backwards...the phone should be thinner or more sleek, not thicker and like box.
I don't think this is legit (hopefully).
of course it looks bad
just judge it on the inside.
a lot of times they put hardware of test models and dev kits in older phone outerware (frankensteins) or test molds. its perfectly normal for them to test them this way and make incremental changes in hardware and software. for most companies (not apple) form factor is one of the last things that are done, shape, mold, metal etc are done last once they have the final inner hardware dimensions.
thats not to say they dont have very specific designs and mockups already with final product dimensions (they do this early, think case leaks), they just have to worry about phone assembly and part availability.
although i bet this was an early one because if theyre using ceramics in their final design, im sure they did their homework with its effects on thermals and signal.
Samsung has been using generic enclosures for the testing of phones lately.
Some folks think this is actually the Galaxy "M" and others think it could be the "GS-III".
The specs are underwhelming if this is true. Same screen as the Galaxy Nexus. Same camera. Same GPU. Much better CPU but not a quad 1.8 or 2.0 either. I think the international Galaxy Note is still looking like the next logical step for me.
Yeah I'm positive its a prototype. On a side note, Samsung never disappoints.
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I am pretty sure that's not SIII. And Samsung hasn't disappointed me yet so lets see how it will be 2 more weeks!
Yeah, that's probably just a testing case... wanting to make sure the insides work correctly before fine tuning them to work in a more appealing and thin enclosure.
Interesting. I know Bell already has the S3. I know someone pretty "high up" there and has used one already. obviously its in testing mode but from what he told me, as soon as it comes out he will definately be getting one. And I garantee it will be quad core (he won't tell me anything else.. the fact that he told me they have them was already saying too much)
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Interesting. I know Bell already has the S3. I know someone pretty "high up" there and has used one already. obviously its in testing mode but from what he told me, as soon as it comes out he will definately be getting one. And I garantee it will be quad core (he won't tell me anything else.. the fact that he told me they have them was already saying too much)
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OMG are you serious...
I just switched from Bell to Rogers just for the SR and then Bell gets the S3
Hopefully this will be a GNote scenario where all the major carriers get the phone.
But anyways thats exciting to hear about. Im actually starting to believe these May 22nd rumors...
anyhow rogers gets the s3, my skyrocket is gonna magically "break.". I'll warranty it for an account credit and get the s3 through Rogers Rententions
I really hope they can retain the exynos chipset for all markets. The fragmentation due to using 3 different chipsets in the GSII for 4g receptivity was a real headache for development and users alike. IMO, all new gsm phones should be penta-band. nexus phones are setting a good example.
Saw that video on Engadget the other day. I'll just post the updated part from it:
Did the Samsung Galaxy S III just appear in Vietnam? (video) (updated with statement)
Update: It looks our source link has disappeared and the video has now gone private. Fortunately, we grabbed our own copy of the video and you can find it below.
Update 2: We reached out to Samsung for a comment, and here's the not-so-surprising response:
"We will be able to tell you more at the 2012 Samsung Mobile Unpacked."​
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Also, this:
Amazon Germany weighs in on Samsung Galaxy S III with 4.7-inch screen and 12 megapixel camera
May 3rd is no doubt going to be a monumental day for Samsung, but April 20th is certainly turning out to be quite memorable for potential specs of the Galaxy S III. Not only did we happen to come across a purported leak of the device itself, which suggested the handset would pack a 4.6-inch display and an 8 megapixel camera, but now a placeholder has popped up on Amazon's German site with a few contrasting specifications -- most notably, a 4.7-inch screen and a 12 megapixel camera. We're still a bit skeptical, because this is far from official, but the fact that the smartphone is shipped and sold by Amazon itself adds a wee bit of credence to the product listing. Only time will tell which set of specs -- if any -- are the correct ones, but the build-up to the Galaxy S III just got a whole lot more interesting.
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The Verge, BestBoyZ (translated)
Amazon.de (translated)
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Thanks for the update. I put it in the op
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Looking at the blanketed device in the image above, it’s clearly obvious that all attempts to shroud the device in secrecy has ultimately succeeded. The phone really looks nothing like the “leaks” we’ve already seen, and it appears that the reports are true that Samsung has concealed the test devices in a dummy case. Under that blue blanket of mystery you can tell that the device will have a curved screen and corners much like the Galaxy Nexus but that is about all that can be deciphered. It really looks like Samsung may actually successfully keep this thing under “wraps” until the 3rd of next month.
http://www.talkandroid.com/
musa13 said:
Looking at the blanketed device in the image above, it’s clearly obvious that all attempts to shroud the device in secrecy has ultimately succeeded. The phone really looks nothing like the “leaks” we’ve already seen, and it appears that the reports are true that Samsung has concealed the test devices in a dummy case. Under that blue blanket of mystery you can tell that the device will have a curved screen and corners much like the Galaxy Nexus but that is about all that can be deciphered. It really looks like Samsung may actually successfully keep this thing under “wraps” until the 3rd of next month.
http://www.talkandroid.com/
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Unless one of the sgs3 developers leaves his test phone at a bar...
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...countdown-clock/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title
Tick..Tock...Tick...Tock...
Samsung is hoping to generate some consumer buzz for its Galaxy S 3, the next version of its Android-based line of smartphones, with a countdown clock.
The company's mobile division kicked off the effort this morning by tweeting the cryptic message, "Destination: tgeltaayehxnx" -- apparently an anagram for "The next Galaxy."
The Verge discovered that tgeltaayehxnx is also a Web site that features a countdown clock and the message that "You can take the next step in..." (about 16 hours as of this writing -- Monday morning).
Samsung has revealed very little about the new smartphone, other than its May 3 launch. However, a source has told CNET sister site Crave UK that the new device will be a relatively minor upgrade over the Galaxy S2. No specs were revealed, but he said it should be similar to the HTC One X,which has a 1.5GHz quad-core chip with 1GB of RAM and a 4.7-inch screen.
Really not liking this larger screen deal. I believe 4-4.2 inch screen was the sweet spot...
Looks like they added a teaser video
..Samsung sure knows how to advertise
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Samsung - "The next big thing is coming"

So here's the deal. I have no shame in admitting that I'm quite a Samsung fanboy.
My first Android device was a Samsung (Captivate), and since then I have owned a handful of other great Samsung devices over the past two or so years now, not least of which include the GS2 (i9100), the Note (N7000), the original Tab (P1000), Tab 7.7 (P6800), and Tab 8.9 (P7300).
It's not that I don't respect, appreciate, or even like the android offerings of other manufacturers (HTC has had me very close to shelling out my money for their products on a number of occasions), it's just that I always seem to come back to Samsung because the balance of performance, features, build quality, and open development seems to be just right for me ever so slightly more than other manufacturers offerings. I'm not saying they're perfect in any way (nobody's perfect!) but they're the best fit for me.
Now, I'm proud to consider myself a member of the general Android community, regardless of what manufacturer you prefer (if you really prefer any manufacturer at all!), because of the wide diversity we have that makes all our devices as unique as we are as individuals. I'm proud that I'm NOT caught up in the whole self-righteous sense of superiority that the iCommunity seems to exude, simply because they are imbued with a sense of Apple perfection.
Apple's main competition is from Google or Android per-se, because Google isn't in the device manufacturing business; they're in the advertising business. Apple's main competition comes from the likes of all the other manufactures like HTC, Sony, LG, etc, and at the tip of that spear is Samsung.
Samsung has had no shame in calling out Apple, and the iCulture on the whole, in their lemming-like religious devotion in parody ads like "The Next Big Thing" as seen below.
This is all well and good, and frankly entertaining, funny (unless you're a devoted Apple fan), and downright clever advertising, even if it does pass a few punches below the belt, but hey, all's fair in love and war right? Here's my concern though: as I am typing this now, we are all literally just a couple of hours away from Samsung's Unpacked 2012 event in London, where we're expected to see details "the next Galaxy" announced to the world. But with all the hype that has been built up over the last few months, and especially when Samsung themselves are posting advertisements such as the one pictured below, I can't help but wonder if Samsung fanboys such as myself have become the "The Next Big Thing" in Apple-like, religiously devoted, lemming consumers. If so, then the old Super Bowl ad above is probably the greatest irony in recent advertising history. Well, played Samsung, well played.
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So here's my question for you, the Android community: is Samsung becoming the new Apple (or at least Android's Apple analogue)? If so, is this a good thing, or a bad thing for the overall image of the Android community and culture as a whole?
Comment below! Let me know your thoughts and opinions!
Hard to tell. Samsung is huge, but they're not American. That alone should give them the benefit of the doubt. But I dunno. I think in order to get on Apple's level: you need to oversell your products and underdeliver on its performance as well. Samsung hasn't gotten there yet, but Sammy's got a knack for "refreshing" their hardware lineup.
Really now. Other than Galaxy S and SAMOLED: has Samsung really innovated?
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Really now. Other than Galaxy S and SAMOLED: has Samsung really innovated?
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2. Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd KR
> 2011 patent grants: 4,894
> Country: Korea
> Profits: $13.7 billion (20th most)
> Sales: $133.8 billion (20th most)
> 5-yr. stock price change: +67%
> Value: 33rd largest in world
http://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/2012/01/18/most-innovative-companies-in-world/
You are hyped for a reason. Samsung delivers high quality products.
To answer your question, well kind of since thats what sells Android looks like it feels like it too(the interface) however once you need to do some work or something that is normal on a computer an Android can do it... while iOS I could not find the app owned iPhone for ... 3 years (I do not want to get in an argument its just I could not do it...).
I really didn't mind the commercials, at first.
I really didn't care for Samsung, at first.
I'm still not a real fan of LED screens.
However, when I saw the One X running side by side with the Galaxy Nexus, I was shocked. Now of course this is not Touch Wiz and Google may have had more to do with it, but the GNex is a damn fine device. Even though my contract doesn't end for 9 months I am still planning on buying the unlocked GNex and getting a T-Mobile sim plan. (This is also because I will save $100 a month on my family plan).
Although, when I heard that Samsung hired a mob of people to harrang Apple customers I was a bit frustrated. I don't know what kind of validity the story has but the idea that the company would tolerate that is beyond me. And the big bold statements of recent ads are hopefully not going to disappoint.
The next BIG Samsung device in my opinion will be whatever the "Next Nexus" is... Though I will be happy with my GNex and trade up when I see the opportunity.
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Closed, please note we have many existent threads with same topic posted on the proper section.
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Samsung to Announce Galaxy S III

READ MORE! : http://kickedface.blogspot.in/2012/05/samsung-to-announce-galaxy-s-iii.html
Samsung to Announce Galaxy S III
The Samsung Galaxy S III comes to Europe later this month, though you almost certainly won't see it in the U.S. until December. And India won't be getting this phone. Its on their official Twitter.
Samsung to launch ‘Next Galaxy S’, India can only watch. Anyways, Samsung is unveiling the Galaxy S III today. Samsung will take the wraps off its latest Samsung Galaxy S smartphone today in jolly ol' England.
The new Samsung Galaxy S III is set for launch in London at 11 a.m. PT/ 2 p.m. ET/ 7 p.m. UK time.
The Galaxy S III is expected to be one of the hottest Google Android Smartphones of the year. It's the third generation of device in a popular series that started with the Samsung Galaxy S and the Samsung Galaxy S II. And even though little is known about the details of the Samsung Galaxy S III ahead of the launch, it's expected to be a hot seller too.
That said, the rumor mill has been churning, and some blogs report that the new smartphone could have a quad-core processor and a large screen in the 4.7-inch to 4.8-inch range. Fans are also hoping the display will be Super AMOLED or even Super AMOLED Plus.
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It's unclear whether Samsung will announce U.S. carriers today for the new phone at the event. If not, it's likely the company will talk about its U.S. debut next week at the CTIA trade show in New Orleans.
In among those things is a new sensor that tracks your eyes – so long as you’re looking at the S3’s screen, it won’t dim or lock itself. Yes, you could just set the screen timer to longer, but “Smart Stay” means you don’t have to. In use, the feature seemed to work very well, with a little icon indicating the phone is watching your eyes.
On a similar note, if you’re looking at a contact, or a message from a contact, the S3 automatically dials that person when you put the phone to your face. It’s one less button to press.
An improvement to voice control, called S-Voice, that lets users control their phone using normal, natural language. So it’s like Siri, only it does more – you can say volume up, for instance, and the phone will filter out the noise of the song it’s playing so it can hear you. The S, we assume, stands for Samsung.
Elsewhere, the phone adds useful features that, for instance, can automatically share a photograph you take with people whose faces are recognised, called ‘Buddy Photo Share, or display social media profiles directly on a photograph when those face are recognised. These are features that are useful rather than revolutionary, but they feel like they will be obvious standards in the near future. Tagging groups and offering an automatic slideshow zooming into the faces in a picture are also useful additions. Samsung, unless the patent wars cause further upset, is setting new standards.
When it comes to features such as S-Beam, which transfers files quickly between devices by touching them together, or sharing the phone’s screen content with other devices, these are increasingly becoming more widespread industry standards, as indicated on the new Motorola Razr, which offers similar concepts. The Samsung processor is fast enough to allow crystal clear video to play in a window on your homescreens, which again is nifty, but not vital.
Are there areas where the phone disappoints? The camera is just 8MP it has been upgraded to offer a 20-shot burst mode and the automatic selection of a best picture. The firm insists on pre-loading apps which I don’t see much use for – while Dropbox (including a remarkable 50GB of storage for two years) and Flipboard are useful, the Music, Game and Video Hubs will have to offer remarkable content to outplay the entirety of the app store, Google Play.
Overall, the device is in many ways much like its predecessor: does it feel as solid or heavy in the hand as the iPhone? No, although it’s certainly a lot bigger. Is it a different, superb product in its own right? Absolutely. On spending just a short time with the S3, I’m confident in saying that it’s a worthy successor to the globally popular S2. But I also want to see how much all those new features make a real difference in everyday use to form a fuller opinion. Sources : Telegraph, Cnet
Specifications:
Screen:
4.8” Super Amoled HD display
Storage:
16/32/64GB depending on model, plus expandable MicroSD card
Cloud storage:
50GB Dropbox for two years
Colour:
Pebble blue or marble white
Battery:
2,100mAh (wireless charging optional extra)
Camera:
8MP rear; 1.9 MP front
Resolution:
720 x 1280 px (306ppi)
RAM:
1GB
Dimensions:
136.6 x 70.6 x 8.55 mm
Weight:
133g
Operating System:
Android 4.0.4
Processor:
Exynos 4 Quad (1.4GHz)
Ugly interface. ^^
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Ugly interface. ^^
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It got some nice features bro.
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Let's hope there will be plenty of good custom roms to replace the odious touchwiz.
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I just wish the camera was a little better,and upgrade in ram..and I hope it has more then just red.and blue leds =/
worried about the battery to..lol
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kinda sounds like a swing and miss to me. I mean if I was due an upgrade I would consider it when it is available but it does nothing to really get me going.
Nothing which will realy push me to change my actual S2 for the S3. Will think about it in a year .
Thread closed, there's no need for 15 sgs3 threads, use the one below for discussions etc:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634003

Surface by Microsoft, Possible iPad killer

Microsoft is bringing out their own tablet which is said to be a possible iPad killer.
Here's the reveal video. Enjoy.
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Possible? It is an ipad killer! Full featured Windows 8 running a possibly ivy bridge cpu smokes an ipad anyday. And with pen support, OneNote is gonna be sweet to use
That's what Samsung labeled the "Instinct" too: an iPhone Killer. It took them nearly half a decade later to finally do so, with the SGS2.
I really hope Microsoft has really something special to bring to the table.
The key that will dictate their success with this tablet will depend on software (apps) compatibility, selection, & dev support. (Or lack thereof) --IMO
I wish that video highlighted features...
Also like how this guy looks like an obiesed vrs of Steve Jobs lol
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IIRC the x86 one weighs almost a full kilo, and that's without any cases or anything! Keep that in mind
I have to say its a heck of a machine the new windows 8 runs great on a tablet , i've had the chance to use it, so will see how they support it, but so far it should leave a mark in the industry
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I'm afraid of the unannounced pricing. The ARM variant needs to undercut the ipad for it to have a chance. That being said, I really hope it does well. It's about time Apple sees some solid competition.
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Sounds too good to be true!
This seems a very promising development, and the first thing, ever since the Kindle Fire's pricing, that would start to get tablets developed.
That said, the problem is that most of the features (stand, keyboard, pen) touted during the demonstration could be seen by iPad users as gimmicks, many available via accessories. This (along with the app environments) makes the Surface unlikely to steal prior consumers.
What it is more likely to do is grow the market itself. Metro is currently the best tablet UI being pushed (there are possible alternatives like Chameleon, but considering it's on kickstarter one can't really say it's being pushed), and the notion of having a PC-like processor in a tablet is attractive in itself. Hopefully this would drive an entirely new segment of the market - that Ubuntu tablet's been a long time coming.
Where Microsoft made their not-quite-enough-Apple mistake, however, was to announce too early. They didn't even leave a specified date for onlookers to look forward to, and now the estimates are turning into.. October? Consumers don't have that much patience, and by then the hype would have died down. A release two weeks from now would have sent so many people into a frenzy.
Edit: And, of course, the big unknown is the price. I'm not entirely confident that non-Apple people (who demonstrate higher price elasticities) would buy a secondary device that's only priced "competitively" (and, judging from the premium feel Microsoft is trying to give off, probably less than competitively). It could just fade into irrelevancy like many of the Android tablets. The "pro" version is more viable if people see it as able to serve as their main device, but that's coming three months after (October?).
Interesting name choice. I though the op was talking about the old surface at first, but then I saw that they renamed that one pixelsense, and are now calling their tablet the surface. Hmm..
A link about the name change:http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-5...names-its-old-surface-computer-as-pixelsense/
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This seems a very promising development, and the first thing (ever since the Kindle Fire's pricing) that would start to get tablets developed.
That said, the problem is that most of the features (stand, keyboard, pen) touted during the demonstration could be seen by iPad users as gimmicks, many available via accessories. This (along with the app environments) makes the Surface unlikely to steal prior consumers.
What it is more likely to do is grow the market itself. Metro is currently the best tablet UI being pushed (there are possible alternatives like Chameleon, but considering it's on kickstarter one can't really say it's being pushed), and the notion of having a PC-like processor in a tablet is attractive in itself. Hopefully this would drive an entirely new segment of the market (that Ubuntu tablet's been a long time coming).
Where Microsoft made their not-quite-enough-Apple mistake, however, was to announce too early. They didn't even leave a specified date for onlookers to look forward to, and the estimates are turning into.. October? Consumers don't have that much patience, and by then the hype would have died down. A release two weeks from now would have sent so many people into a frenzy.
Edit: And, of course, the big unknown is the price. I'm not entirely confident that non-Apple people (who demonstrate higher price elasticities) would buy a secondary device that's only priced "competitively" (and, judging from the premium feel Microsoft is trying to give off, probably less than competitively). It could just fade into irrelevancy like many of the Android tablets. The "pro" version is more viable if people see it as able to serve as their main device, but that's coming three months after (October?).
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I agree man. That marketing & deployment strategy is gonna ruin them. Microsoft needs to remember they aren't the only people in industry anymore & companies are watching each other's every move. What they introduce that's so groundbreaking today will be matched or surpassed by that October launch.
Its the APPS that we all should be worrying about.....
Good marketing, surface possible iPad killer!!!!!
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i will buy it when it was available in store
Higher quality version of the vid from page 1...
I don't care how good this thing is. The marketing on it is absolutely horrible. Incompatible OS' between the two brother tabs. The pro coming out months after the regular. That seems like either they want everyone to buy the regular, have buyers remorse and then purchase the pro. I also heard they had a deal with Dell that made that happen. not sure.
Even the presentation was bad. Hardly any smiling. As if they're not proud of their product.
They also stole their own name. Lol.
A windows 8 tablet could be amazing. But it's probably no iPad killer. The marketing isn't there to make it be so. Unless when the commercial marketing comes, Microsoft pulls something incredible out of their butt holes.
They've also been quite vague with pricing details. Comparing it similar to an ultra book. More than an iPad. We know Microsoft customers. They want what's cheap. If this will compare to an iPad, the pricing needs to be spot on.
Also, 200th post.
I hope they will offer a low price and drive the whole tablet market prices down with them !
Awesome, simply awesome. I really love the Windows 8 Metro GUI!
I can see it being widespread in the corporate environments, since it runs Office and most native Windows softwares...
Interesting debate. While the surface DEFINITELY beats the ipad in the hardware front with its Intel version containing ultra book class hardware, it still does not have an app ecosystem that can dream to even rival apple's. With 128gb of space and the 3mm keyboard its somewhere in between a laptop and tablet, not a clear placement in either also, it will be really expensive. That said, with the right price, it might be a very good option for those who need some pc- class processing and browsing on the go, cause after everything, ipad is still just a mobile device. Don't expect it to be an ipad killer though I guess I can sum it up in one question.... Would you recommend it for someone who doesn't have a laptop and a tablet? Cause that will be this devices prospective market.
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I have the feeling OUYA will be a huge failure.

I remember all the hype for this Android based console that was supposed to revolutionize the mobile gaming industry but I feel that they have waited far too long, you can already get similar spec'ed Android stick computers for basically the same price. The only thing I now can see going for the OUYA is maybe the controller aside from the good looking case but looks don't matter when the cards are on the table and the sad fact is that the Nexus 7 is just as powerful as the OUYA is going to be, not to mention the Nexus 7.7 will be announced soon this year which will most likely drop the price of the Nexus 7 which will make that $99 standpoint of the OUYA look not so good compared to the portability of a similar spec'ed tablet.
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Confirmed specs are,
Tegra3 Quad core
1GB of ram
8GB of internal ROM space
HDMI connector at 1080P
Wifi 802.11 B/G/N
ONE usb port
Android 4.0 ICS "NOT EVEN JELLY BEAN <.<" The community probably will quickly fix that though.
1 Wireless Controller
Compare that to the devices already announced "Nexus 5, Galaxy S4, Nexus 7.7, Galaxy Tab 3, HTC M7, Galaxy note 8.0... The list goes on.
And if you want to compare it to whats out now that will be price dropping this year "Nexus 7" Then the OUYA just doesn't fit in the "Good deal" Scene point of view. Lets not forget The Exynos 5 which will most likely find it sway into more tablets and phones alike and the Tegra4 which "If you have paid attention to what Nvidia has been saying" Is going to be their thinnest, most powerful mobile processor on the market which will be as much as 6X faster compared to previous Tegra based devices.
Source http://www.anandtech.com/show/6666/the-tegra-4-gpu-nvidia-claims-better-performance-than-ipad-4
I say why buy a console and stay at home when you can buy a Tablet and bring it with you anywhere.
I don't understand why so many people are worried about this being "underpowered" So what if the Tegra 3 comes out this year. New tech is always coming out! It's not like all the games that are released from now on will suddenly *need* a Tegra 4 to play them. And it was announced a long time ago it would have Jelly Bean, whatever press release you have may have the info wrong. Also, I highly highly doubt the Nexus 7 will drop in price. It will just be dropped completely when a new Nexus comes out. The Galaxy Nexus didn't drop in price when the Nexus 4 came out, it just stopped being sold by Google! And yes this is more powerful than the 7 anyway because it has a fan, and is overclocked as batteries not a concern.
People need to stop looking at this from the "what is the hardware" stand point, and look at it from the "what is the opportunity" stand point. It's a great spec'd android dedicated TV box, that should have a huge cult following! Isn't that awesome? Isn't that what this site is all about. XBMC, modding, emulators, homebrew games. Have a little sense of adventure man.
I would imagine it can be hard to predict how well a product will do, probably a lot of factors need to be analyzed..
I feel there is a market for it but not sure how large ....Im not sure how good nintendo ds devices specs are these days but seemed a few years ago they where crappy and similar to gameboy or gamegear in gfx look.....my point is people are still buying and using nintendo ds......
Oh and products kind of go viral too....if they come from something well known or similar.. im not sure the fact it's android based will be something that pushes people to buy it though.
I remember when the original xbox was about to come out everyone was such a sony playstation fanboy and a lot of people didn't really want an xbox...and people wheren't interested in specs it was all about playstation2/sony being a known brand so they will have a better product.
seems now miscrosoft has won over a lot of playstation fans from back then.
i won't go into depth about movie trailers and movie quality and video games.
I don't buy a mmo until atleast 6 months after its release any more and if i have any interest i just follow it those 6 month via video reviews and forums.
But um basically my point is i gave up on trying to predict or be an early adopter or having hope in products.. i just wait and see and try not to waste brain power or money guessing . so if i do guess i just go with my first gut instinct and wait and see....my gut says....
OUYA won't be a huge financial success but could lead to or inspire something better down the line but i think tablet gaming is the future...just hook up the tablet or phone to the tv and play if you want so i don't really see the point in OUYA.
Odp: I have the feeling OUYA will be a huge failure.
Its not important what OUYA will be... Its exciting what "ouya" gen2, gen3 will be. However i think better option is smartphone+tv+2 pads. OR nexus Q as a gaming center.... Just dreaming...
In my personal life I can't see it being useful at all. But I don't think it'll be a failure.
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failure? really don't think so.
it will be always cheaper due to no need have a screen and battery and rugged body.
there will be huge and on growing selection of games.
it could be used as a great media streamer with the right adjustments.
and all of that for 99$? it will be godlike device.

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