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So I just got and activated this phone 2 days ago. for some reason, the Market app will not update itself. idk why, it's always doen that on my phones automatically before. in fact, when I just gave my friend my old discontinued 600Mhz LG Ally, It auto updated the Market only minutes after he signed in. what could be causing this?
Dunno - This device hasn't updated the market on my end either, had to do it manually.
You can see my sig 'how to script a market update' for info on how to write a system update to put a new market version on, or in the thread you can download the pre-made package. The version is a bit older now, but thereafter it'll automatically update itself like normal.
I believe this is something on Google's end, where they rolled out updating to the new market by product model - I know they were messing with my Nook Color for a while and it was a pain in the ... to get the market to work in any kind of decent capacity for a while. I'd assume they just haven't gotten to forcing an update on Google's end for our phone.
I used to hate having to swap to the new market, and stubbornly tried to keep the old market for as long as I could - but the new one has grown on me and now I prefer it.
I hated the new market when it first came out on my Sidekick, but not because of the style. I hated how buggy and glitchy it was, constantly force closing and screwing up downloads. Made me curse the hell out of Google all the time for not testing their crap. but once they released a few more updates, all of that stopped. took a few months though.
Seriously, it was just awful. there were times I would just leyt my phone sit there for hours while plugged in, having not touched it or turned on any apps literally for many hours. then all of a sudden, the phone would do a "bzz, Bzzbzzbzz" which is a feature Samsung made to let you know something crashed. sure enough, it would be the market, which I never even opened but somehow managed to randomly find an error to crash itself with.
Root your phone and update it manually. The new Market format actually got better after multiple tries by Google.
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I actually just downloaded the .apk from Android Community. I'm wondering though, it it safe to install? I'm not rooted yet, probably won't find the time til the end of the week with finals. I'm wondering about whether installing will cause me to not get further market updates once they're out..
Falkner09 said:
I actually just downloaded the .apk from Android Community. I'm wondering though, it it safe to install? I'm not rooted yet, probably won't find the time til the end of the week with finals. I'm wondering about whether installing will cause me to not get further market updates once they're out..
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It took me 10 minutes total to root. Just make sure you flash Superuser in recovery in spite of the error messages you will get.
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Just get the apk and install. Choose a trustworthy site. My wife won't let me root her glacier. Hers wouldn't uppdate so I copied the system file from my phone and installed on hers just fine. Right over the top.
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just got my new mt4g slide ,and i cant update my market as well, can some one please post the link?is that the only way to update it? i found a link earlier but i couldnt down load it because on the damn goverment lol
g2uzer said:
just got my new mt4g slide ,and i cant update my market as well, can some one please post the link?is that the only way to update it? i found a link earlier but i couldnt down load it because on the damn goverment lol
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Here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/11/19/download-updated-android-market-v3-3-12/. I have an unrooted MT4GS with s-on and it still installs fine, although I had to reboot, because when I first opened it it kept crashing, but it's fine after a reboot.
g2uzer said:
just got my new mt4g slide ,and i cant update my market as well, can some one please post the link?is that the only way to update it? i found a link earlier but i couldnt down load it because on the damn goverment lol
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If you want to stay local I made a flashable market in this thread a while ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268661
It's attached to the bottom of the first post (which explains in detail how to make your own).
If you flash the dark_market file, it will auto-update after the first time you open it and from then forward.
Thanks for the help, and not rooted tho, but thanks for both quick responds ;-) so those are they only ways to update them correct?
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Well, the market is a system app, and the only way to mess with those is to have root that I know of...
Unless you can flash an insecure boot partition somehow and then get adb remount access...
Not sure how to go about that if S-On though.
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Here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/11/19/download-updated-android-market-v3-3-12/. I have an unrooted MT4GS with s-on and it still installs fine, although I had to reboot, because when I first opened it it kept crashing, but it's fine after a reboot.
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The download links not working :-(
Edit; just tried it again and it worked, thanks, so this market its sign by Google right? So that makes it safe, right? Lol thanks and sorry to ask so many questions
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Well, the market is a system app, and the only way to mess with those is to have root that I know of...
Unless you can flash an insecure boot partition somehow and then get adb remount access...
Not sure how to go about that if S-On though.
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I flashed the market over my previous market and I have s-on and am not rooted. It said this is a system app are you sure you want to overwrite or something and let me.
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The download links not working :-(
Edit; just tried it again and it worked, thanks, so this market its sign by Google right? So that makes it safe, right? Lol thanks and sorry to ask so many questions
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Yes, I had no problems with it and it installed fine. And android police is a good source.
I'm updated now thanks
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So yeah, any time I install an app from the market or the Amazon store, Sense force closes. I'm rooted using stock ROM. Known issue, or more importantly, advice?
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Did you try fixing permissions inside rom manager? That normally fixes root related fc issues.
Hmm I'm not actually sure what you mean. ROM manager?
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You're rooted and you don't have ROM Manager?
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Hmm I'm not actually sure what you mean. ROM manager?
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You are kidding right? Please say this is a joke?
AndroidBotx said:
You are kidding right? Please say this is a joke?
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Why? I rarely use it, and have only installed it a few times but don't usually keep it installed.
Honestly it's not necessary, but does let you easily install a custom recovery in some situations. For an S-OFF device there are much easier and more convenient ways to do so.
For the first few months we had the device there was no official recovery and ROM Manager was dangerous to use (not so anymore)
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Why? I rarely use it, and have only installed it a few times but don't usually keep it installed.
Honestly it's not necessary, but does let you easily install a custom recovery in some situations. For an S-OFF device there are much easier and more convenient ways to do so.
For the first few months we had the device there was no official recovery and ROM Manager was dangerous to use (not so anymore)
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Press "flash recovery" and grant Superuser permissions. Not that hard.
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Haha I didn't realize I was so far out of the loop! With my phones, I root to get access to system folders, system apps, and to run adfree. I don't flash ROMs at all and always keep stock ROM. If I saw "ROM manager" before, I probably brushed it off without thinking because I associated it with custom ROMs.
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Haha I didn't realize I was so far out of the loop! With my phones, I root to get access to system folders, system apps, and to run adfree. I don't flash ROMs at all and always keep stock ROM. If I saw "ROM manager" before, I probably brushed it off without thinking because I associated it with custom ROMs.
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ROM Manager also allows you to flash ClockworkMod recovery and fixes your apps permissions. Once we get AOSP on this phone, you'll see what's really available.
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fixes your apps permissions
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So, I ran the fix app permissions from the ROM Manager and that didn't change anything. I went to install something from the market and although I didn't get a FORCE CLOSE pop up message, I did notice the MyTouch splash coming back up reloading Sense once again...
:-(
I appreciate any help offered. Thanks,
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So, I ran the fix app permissions from the ROM Manager and that didn't change anything. I went to install something from the market and although I didn't get a FORCE CLOSE pop up message, I did notice the MyTouch splash coming back up reloading Sense once again...
:-(
I appreciate any help offered. Thanks,
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That is 100% normal when using the bone stock rom. Thats why 95% of peeps who root use a custom rom.
AndroidBotx said:
That is 100% normal when using the bone stock rom. Thats why 95% of peeps who root use a custom rom.
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Not only that - but i've noticed on the stock ROM every time I plug my phone into a computer without rebooting first it locks up and restarts - I have yet to have this happen on my ROM or any of the others I used before that.
Once you root the stock ROM, it just doesn't seem to work as well, and I had the restart issue before root was available for us with this device. At first I thought it was my computer doing it, but now with an older desktop in service it happens on that too, and other random computers I plug into that my friends own too...I dunno.
There is a lot to be said for running a custom ROM instead of the stock one, beyond all the little fixes and enhancements they bring.
...but, that's why we all work together here to constantly bring better software with more support for these devices all over XDA.
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So, I ran the fix app permissions from the ROM Manager and that didn't change anything. I went to install something from the market and although I didn't get a FORCE CLOSE pop up message, I did notice the MyTouch splash coming back up reloading Sense once again...
:-(
I appreciate any help offered. Thanks,
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When is the last time you cleared cache and dalvik-cache? That might help with some of your issues.
I wrote a flashable-zip package that will do just that if you don't want to do it manually, it does a wipe (not format) so is compatible with all 3 clockworkmod recoveries we have available, since 4.0.0.8 and 4.0.0.9 don't implement the format command correctly.
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Third one is: Blue6IX_C01_Wipe.zip
MD5: a8c57de781b2abfca2dfcdcae57d439c
This one will wipe the /cache partition and also wipe dalvik-cache. Use this one if you are having problems with specific apps, especially when changing to a different version of an already installed app.
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Either manually doing it or flashing my script might help with your issues, or might have no effect.
The next time you boot after doing so the machine will have to rebuild both cache and dalvik-cache, so it will take a little longer to boot that first time and after it's done and has sat for 5 minutes or so you should reboot the machine again before using it, just to get everything worked out right.
Hope it helps!
This is my first post so please bear with me. I searched and searched and tried everything and havent been able to do this.
After rooting atrix 2, went to delete some bloatware...think i accidentally deleted something crucial (as most noobs do I am sure ). Now the phone will not boot fully - it gets stuck at the moto emblem in a kind of boot loop. Just going to give you info about what I have done so far:
Once i boot after a hard reset- in recovery mode tried to install stock rom. Did not work. This is because it said E:Signature did not get verified. ALSO pls note that I do not have cwm or any other custom boot program - so I am unable to see any uncheck the e signature option. I tried to find any rom which might have a signature so i can get that and then put the stock on subsequently - no good so far - of the mere 2-3 roms I found all showed the same problem with E-signature.
I tried to see if I could install cwm. I installed sdk tools on my computer - however I dont know how to install cwm without phone being fully on. Nor can I find a file for the Atrix 2 to do it. The ones I found were the bootstrap ones in .apk files which i dont know how to install on bootlooping phone.
Spoke to some android pros - tried the suggestions above they gave me and nothing so far. I think it was android phone portal that I accidentally removed...
Also note that I am in India and my stock rom is the India version NOT the AT&T/Verizon.
Im a bit scared to use the RSDLite application as I am not proficient with the workings of that software and I dont want to cause any more damage.
Is there any rom for atrix 2 that has a valid E:Signature? Is there any way to bypass this on stock bootloader. I repeat I do NOT have clockwork..Only options are to Reboot, Install package from SD, Format and Clear Cache.
PLEASE HELP...as a last draw will take to the service center...this phone is only 1 month old so I dont want to risk losing warranty (
Have you tried flashing an FXZ as in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396650
Sorry just re-read your post see you are in India and not on AT&T version.
Your best chance is to use RSD Lite to flash the stock Indian ROM. Here is the whole list of known fxz's for the A2. The Indian Retail ROM is "5.5.1-EDEM-27-SEARET."
When you first try to flash, it might error out depending on if you are on the latest update for your firmware. If so, just post the screenshot of the error it gives.
Do you think maybe i can flash it to this at&t firmware and then install cwm and then restore to india stock flash as with cwm i would be able to bypass signature authentication?
Please let me know.
Thanks.
dheerb said:
Do you think maybe i can flash it to this at&t firmware and then install cwm and then restore to india stock flash as with cwm i would be able to bypass signature authentication?
Please let me know.
Thanks.
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Yes, you can do it that way, but it is rather indirect way of doing it. The easiest thing to do is flash the Indian firmware with RSD Lite.
yes i tried that but for some reason rsd lite does not detect my device (yes i have downloaded all relevant drivers).
And now whats worse :
I used moto-fastboot to flash the system files and i got the dreaded low battery fail. As expected this has caused Flash Mode (S) Flash Failure - is this mean its beyond repair by me? If there is a way please let me know.
As of now i have connected it to the wall charger hoping that by tomorrow morning I should have battery for me to try again (I tried again after a half hr or so of battery charging and it didnt work - gave the same error)...
Worst case Ill take it to the service center - would they be able to repair it does anyone think? Is this something they will do? (I understand warranty might be void)...
Please tell me I'm fretting big time...I cant afford a new phone
Oh and I tried with the Indian rom too but didnt work again coz rsdlite didnt register my phone connected despite drivers being installed.
Tutorial videos were hard to find but atrix 4g and original atrix show the boot mode as RSD protocol boot mode....this is not to be found on my atrix 2 boot mode - only thing is AP Fastboot - maybe its the same I do not know...
Also another question - will my phone battery charge when phone is connected to wall charger while the persistent flash failure Fastboot is showing on screen...
If all fails I really hope the service center can repair this...this is possible right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026
this should work I've used it a couple times now
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chrisn91 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026
this should work I've used it a couple times now
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^^ this is your best bet at a fix. Once your battery is high enough, RSD Lite should detect your phone (I'm assuming that that's why it doesn't show up in RSD but it does in fastboot).
alright seems a bit mechanical...probably a last resort...
are you saying the battery will not charge when connected to the wall charger though?
Also if i do it the way the thread says...how long do i keep it connected?
thanks!
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alright seems a bit mechanical...probably a last resort...
are you saying the battery will not charge when connected to the wall charger though?
Also if i do it the way the thread says...how long do i keep it connected?
thanks!
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I've done it a couple times I usual wait like 10 mins before starting the rsdlite but leave the micro usb and mcgyver method plugged in. As also read so where on here that the batter will charge in recovery mode as well. Never tried that
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PHEW
hey guys thanks so much for all your support and help! Ive just managed to get it back up and running...guess the wall charger did charge it just enough (literally just - started with 8% battery )
now will start restoring things one by one... (and happy to do it too after this ordeal)
One last question - is it worth me rooting again? Before this crisis everything was fine after i attained successful root...problem came after i deleted bloatware where I think I stuffed up by deleting phoneportal...
Thanks again...happy days again!
If yo u do root heres a link that coukd help u out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330235
[Reference] List of things that are safe to freeze
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dheerb said:
...One last question - is it worth me rooting again? Before this crisis everything was fine after i attained successful root...problem came after i deleted bloatware where I think I stuffed up by deleting phoneportal...
Thanks again...happy days again!
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Its always best to freeze unwanted apps, rather than deleting. Also, if you re-root, there's several roms that are de-bloated already.
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Apex_Strider said:
Its always best to freeze unwanted apps, rather than deleting. Also, if you re-root, there's several roms that are de-bloated already.
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I agree with apex, just because you can delete it, doesn't mean you should. Be VERY careful when. Deleting system apps. When in doubt, freeze it out!
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Fall of Enosis said:
I agree with apex, just because you can delete it, doesn't mean you should. Be VERY careful when. Deleting system apps. When in doubt, freeze it out!
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IMHO, Titanium Backup is a must have for all rooted users. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup
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IMHO, Titanium Backup is a must have for all rooted users. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup
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Be vary wary of TIB....
It is best to just freeze anything with something like eazy freezy in market, and backup everything with CWM.
TIB was great, maybe 3 years ago before CWM was the thing. It has not innovated and the things it does can break things a lot... I bought it a long time ago, and I have not liked using it in over 2.5 years now. I stopped loading it last year, when it would give erreranous errors about incorrect permissions, and fail to restore things correctly, and using it to remove and "freeze: things tends to cause more FCs than I care to count.....
There are several on the Atrix2 forum that have seen these same issues, and have even been soft bricked by TIB.
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Be vary wary of TIB....
It is best to just freeze anything with something like eazy freezy in market, and backup everything with CWM.
TIB was great, maybe 3 years ago before CWM was the thing. It has not innovated and the things it does can break things a lot... I bought it a long time ago, and I have not liked using it in over 2.5 years now. I stopped loading it last year, when it would give erreranous errors about incorrect permissions, and fail to restore things correctly, and using it to remove and "freeze: things tends to cause more FCs than I care to count.....
There are several on the Atrix2 forum that have seen these same issues, and have even been soft bricked by TIB.
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I didn't realize there was such issues with TB... I haven't really used it for freezing, but new it held that option to do so. I've used to backup apps so as to not have to re-download my apps each time after flashing new roms. Is there something better for this purpose?
CWM backs up everything, like rom and apps and so forth, right? What about just backing up apps only?
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Apex_Strider said:
I didn't realize there was such issues with TB... I haven't really used it for freezing, but new it held that option to do so. I've used to backup apps so as to not have to re-download my apps each time after flashing new roms. Is there something better for this purpose?
CWM backs up everything, like rom and apps and so forth, right? What about just backing up apps only?
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Backing up and restoring apps can be risky when flashing ROMs. You are best to use the option with the market/play to backup what apps you have installed, then when you install a new ROM, and sign into the market/play, it should download and install all the apps you had before. I have had the best success with this.
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Be vary wary of TIB....
It is best to just freeze anything with something like eazy freezy in market, and backup everything with CWM.
TIB was great, maybe 3 years ago before CWM was the thing. It has not innovated and the things it does can break things a lot... I bought it a long time ago, and I have not liked using it in over 2.5 years now. I stopped loading it last year, when it would give erreranous errors about incorrect permissions, and fail to restore things correctly, and using it to remove and "freeze: things tends to cause more FCs than I care to count.....
There are several on the Atrix2 forum that have seen these same issues, and have even been soft bricked by TIB.
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REALLY? Man, i'm kinda with apex on this one. I have never had any issues with TIB.
Guess the primary reason I like it over the store restore is that it restores all apps. Even the ones not on the store. IE: Cheesecake. It also restores all system settings like text messages, settings, stored passwords. wifi/bluetooth settings. Everything.
However, I trust your wisdom Jim. I will be wary of its usage in the future. Just saying I haven't ran into it... Yet.
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I was laying in bed (with food poisoning) trying to get some sleep, when I noticed my phone vibrated and randomly rebooted.
After it booted up to the Andy firmware update image, and finally to the home screen with the update message I knew I was screwed.
THIS WAS A FORCED UPDATE BY VERIZON. I NEVER ACCEPTED OR DECLINED ANYTHING (re: food poisoning)!
You WILL lose root, on device app searching (Apple legal bs), and probably your unlock!
The perfect end to a perfect night! THANKS Verizon! /sarcasm
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I was laying in bed (with food poisoning) trying to get some sleep, when I noticed my phone vibrated and randomly rebooted.
After it booted up to the Andy firmware update image, and finally to the home screen with the update message I knew I was screwed.
THIS WAS A FORCED UPDATE BY VERIZON. I NEVER ACCEPTED OR DECLINED ANYTHING (re: food poisoning)!
You WILL lose root, on device app searching (Apple legal bs), and probably your unlock!
The perfect end to a perfect night! THANKS Verizon! /sarcasm
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What ROM were you running? It should have disable OTA's thats why I ask.
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What ROM were you running? It should have disable OTA's thats why I ask.
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The title says rooted stock.
I was runing the stock touchwiz rom (with the VRGL2 or 1 baseband) rooted, stock recovery, and the bootloader unlocked.
I just checked the EZ unlocker app and it claims that the bootloader is still unlocked. I have no way of verifying this, but if true, I'm only half screwed until somebody finds a root method for the new firmware.
If/when that happens I'll be more than happy to flash away from Verizon's bs nonsense.
Grrr...
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I was runing the stock touchwiz rom (with the VRGL2 or 1 baseband) rooted, stock recovery, and the bootloader unlocked.
I just checked the EZ unlocker app and it claims that the bootloader is still unlocked. I have no way of verifying this, but if true, I'm only half screwed until somebody finds a root method for the new firmware.
If/when that happens I'll be more than happy to flash away from Verizon's bs nonsense.
Grrr...
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Did you try re-rooting using current methods?
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I was runing the stock touchwiz rom (with the VRGL2 or 1 baseband) rooted, stock recovery, and the bootloader unlocked.
I just checked the EZ unlocker app and it claims that the bootloader is still unlocked. I have no way of verifying this, but if true, I'm only half screwed until somebody finds a root method for the new firmware.
If/when that happens I'll be more than happy to flash away from Verizon's bs nonsense.
Grrr...
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Wow rooted stock with stock recovery. Why not custom recovery? That probably the reason the update went through. Still ridiculous though, don't get me wrong. I'm guessing you weren't doing a lot of flashing.
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Did you try re-rooting using current methods?
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Negative. I currently feel like crap (see OP) and don't feel like messing with my Windows laptop to try it.
Do you think there's any chance I could brick my phone when I attempt it? Or is it simply a will work/won't work thing?
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Negative. I currently feel like crap (see OP) and don't feel like messing with my Windows laptop to try it.
Do you think there's any chance I could brick my phone when I attempt it? Or is it simply a will work/won't work thing?
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Pretty sure it will just work or fail, but I'd wait for confirmation from someone else first - better safe than sorry.
Can you supply your new Baseband Version number?
I just froze sdm 1.0. I went to the software update and it crashed. I so let's hope that stops the update...
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epikos said:
Can you supply your new Baseband Version number?
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I535VRLG7
epikos said:
Can you supply your new Baseband Version number?
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Wow rooted stock with stock recovery. Why not custom recovery? That probably the reason the update went through. Still ridiculous though, don't get me wrong. I'm guessing you weren't doing a lot of flashing.
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I was going to play around with flashing different roms eventually, but after upgrading from a decrepit half working ICS flashed Droid X I was just happy to have fully working phone again. Unfortunately I was under the false impression that the jerks at Verizon would have given me the option to accept their so-called upgrade.
Didn't they already remove local search on Verizon? My phone came that way. Of course I didn't stay on stock once we were freed...
rooting with the rootdebugfs tool should still work!
I woke up to a failed update message. Ran the update again to see why it failed and it fails because it reboots into custom recovery. Rooted, unlocked, stock. Just have some apps disabled or frozen.
Can anyone point out where the in the directory the downloaded update zip would go to?
I didn't get an update message but I did check for one it was available for me. So I ticked ok and it downloaded but failed to update as expected because of the custom recovery I have in place.
But I can't find where the zip file download to.
I wanted to try and see if Chainfire's Mobile ODIN Pro would root the updated zip as it claims.
Cache>fota>update zip...you'll see it
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Yes my laziness allowed verizon to update both of my SGS3 to I535VRLG7. I hope I can reroot when I get a chance later.
I was running stock root on both devices.
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Successful OTA Flash using Mobile Odin Pro and Kept Root/Unlocked Status
Hulk0069 said:
Cache>fota>update zip...you'll see it
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Thanks, running a backup now before I try Mobile ODIN Pro. Will update this post:
Edit: Ok, it seems I have a successful flash using Mobile ODIN Pro.
Mobile Odin Pro gave me some Warnings in advance before continuing the Flash.
1) EverRoot may need to remove Google Maps during the flash to free up some space... yadda yadda..
2) The Modem Image on your device does not match the signature check....yadda yadda..
3) 5 out of 499 system files do not match the signature checks in the OTA zip... yadda yadda..
NOTE: I disabled signature checks on both warnings before proceeding.
But you do that AT YOUR OWN RISK!!
From what I gather, Mobile Odin made its own OTA zip from the target file before flashing it
I"ve uploaded some screen shots.
IMPORTANT!
PLEASE RUN A BACK UP before attempting anything risky like this.
ALSO! and VERY IMPORTANT!!
If you are using CWM as your recovery PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE check the size of your backup before proceeding with the update.
It seems CWM is not working properly on my SGSIII because the backup file sizes were only about 22 MB's large.. and thats is SO NOT GOOD!!
I went into GooManager and Flashed TWRP over CWM and ran a backup via TWRP and checked the file size to be in the range of 2.34GB's and thats what it should be (IMO). The only thing that bugs me about both recoveries is the date is 1979-12-31.. and thats definately wrong..
Anyways, my way of checking for root after an OTA is to run Titanium Backup because it always asks for SuperUser Rights before loading.
So all is well with that and checking to see if the Bootloader on my device was still Unlocked with EZ-Unlock said it still was..
Thats all I can think for now..
Hulk0069 said:
Cache>fota>update zip...you'll see it
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Stock rooted & it tried & failed 2x to do the update and there is nothing in /fota/
I still have root
Second attempt it booted into recovery & I just restarted as it had a fail error
I was wondering if anyone found a way to take ota after rooting. I have always had rooted devices and always ended up on custom roms. For now I would like to stay on the official rom and debloat a bit. Any ideas?
Pretty sure you can just flash back to stock and take ota, then re root. You normally need stock recovery to take ota, and be unrooted
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I can't believe i didnt think of that after I did the same thing with the S4. Thx for shining some light into my clouded mind lol
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I rooted yesterday night. Will I be able to odin back to official and receive OTA updates?
roadrunnrr said:
I rooted yesterday night. Will I be able to odin back to official and receive OTA updates?
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I tried this and update still wouldn't let me download the OTA.
Unless someone comes out with a way to revert the knox flag (which is said to be a perm flag) it won't ever be possible to be true factory again as all OTA's will now check for the tamper.
I think someone mentioned though you can manually install it, just the downloader/OTA wouldn't work.
If manually still wasn't possible I'm sure someone could remove the check from the update and you still get it that way but officially through Samsung you currently are probably stuck.
Ideally someone finds a way to reset the so called, perma flag.
If not the alternative might be finding a way to root the phone without flagging it, but in those cases it won't help those already flagged.
I know on HTC they had a similar type of flag, though didn't use it to check for update status. They flagged as Tampered or Re-locked for example.
However after some time we found how to reset those in some magical hidden area to blind write too (not talking about those that cheated to hide it via bootloader image edits)
At this point it's a wait and see game...
I hope someone finds fast though, I am stock and really want to get this bloat off my phone lol
I tried it myself now... Rooted and i couldnt even check for updates. Unrooted but device status was still custom. I had to go into the stock recovery and wipe everything and then Odin stock firmware to be able to check for updates
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roadrunnrr said:
I tried it myself now... Rooted and i couldnt even check for updates. Unrooted but device status was still custom. I had to go into the stock recovery and wipe everything and then Odin stock firmware to be able to check for updates
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When I tried this the update check still failed stating that I had a custom ROM.
Just checked for updates and it went through
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roadrunnrr said:
Just checked for updates and it went through
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Were you rooted then un-rooted?? Can you post the OTA file from your cache??
Yeah... Rooted then grabbed the whole factory md5 and restored that did it. Let me know where I can find the OTA and I'll post it. But I'm unrooted now so I don't know if it will work
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Yeah... Rooted then grabbed the whole factory md5 and restored that did it.
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Nice, Otherwise seems like a bad strategy on Samsung's part if they don't allow people who unroot and odin back to stock to take OTA's.. Why would a manufacture not want to offer a path back to stock for security updates and the chance to get a user back on a bloated rom full of there paid ad apps. Each time users do this there is a small percentage that won't either be able to re-root due to updates stopping the root method or just out of hassle. I understand the warranty flag but not why you wouldn't offer a path back to stock unless they are just being short sighted in an attempt to penalize people who root which won't have much effect..
I'd post the OTA like I said but I'm unrooted now.
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roadrunnrr said:
I'd post the OTA like I said but I'm unrooted now.
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So root!!
Still waiting to find out if I'll be able to get back to official and then check for updates after this update and root
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roadrunnrr said:
Still waiting to find out if I'll be able to get back to official and then check for updates after this update and root
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I can't seem to do it. Once I rooted and tripped the Knox flag bit the Update check won't let me download. But the error message says that I can still download and install updates using Kies.
I just fixed it. The problem is not the Knox flag but rather the fact that Custom was showing in Download mode instead of Official. I had to flash twice without my SDcard inserted to get to Official. Once I got to Official the update started to download.
rooted?
roadrunnrr said:
Still waiting to find out if I'll be able to get back to official and then check for updates after this update and root
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so what does it matter if a phone is rooted or not in terms of an OTA update from a phone that has already received it?....wouldn't you just upload it and apply it? shouldn't matter at all whether phone is rooted or not when you're updating the file received from an already received OTA phone update. It's just the acquisition of the update that's blocked, not the install. At least until the 5SS you could always just grab a copy of the OTA update and install.
dk2463 said:
so what does it matter if a phone is rooted or not in terms of an OTA update from a phone that has already received it?....wouldn't you just upload it and apply it? shouldn't matter at all whether phone is rooted or not when you're updating the file received from an already received OTA phone update. It's just the acquisition of the update that's blocked, not the install. At least until the 5SS you could always just grab a copy of the OTA update and install.
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No if you were completely stock and just root ...with stock recovery and no missing system files it could be done. ...it now has to say official for the ota to finish ....no other way
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but again, once a non-rooted phone receives the OTA update, you just pull the update from the phone and share it and even rooted phones can update...that's my point...am shocked no one is sharing their "received" OTA update
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No if you were completely stock and just root ...with stock recovery and no missing system files it could be done. ...it now has to say official for the ota to finish ....no other way
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Patience.. I guess..
dk2463 said:
but again, once a non-rooted phone receives the OTA update, you just pull the update from the phone and share it and even rooted phones can update...that's my point...am shocked no one is sharing their "received" OTA update
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I gotta agree.. Most of my previous device OTA's were always dumped within hours of release really surprised this hasn't been yet. This is my first Samsung phone and I have liked the device but kinda disappointed in the XDA turnout so far. I am always appreciative of those who are here but I just thought with how popular the Galaxy line was there would be more dev support from day 1 but there hasn't been much so far. I know it's early and being CDMA/Sprint really limits us but seems like all my previous HTC devices on Sprint and the current M8 are getting way more action.. Oh well, but sure makes a jump to T-Mobile for the new Oneplus One Cyanogen phone sound tempting haha..
And thanks again to all those who are here and contributing!!!