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It's really annoying. The Hero's got it, and it was invaluable to me. saved my phone many a time.
I've been reading many reviews online re this lacking on the Nexus One as well, and users as well as editors citing Apple as starting the dumb trend to eliminate a strap connecting point as I am sure it would ruin steve's aesthetics. So why did HTC have to go follow this dumb new trend?
Does anyone know if any of the silicon cases set to come out will have at least the option for a carrying strap?
You know this was brought up at HoFo. We were talking about creating some sort of lanyard port on the iPhone itself. Maybe if case-mate got the hint and started producing cases....
Anywho, what could be done is get a thick gelli/silicone case and use a small tipped screw driver or even a safety pin to create 2 holes anywhere on the case.
That eBay seller (e-story) that I keep talking about, has Nexus One cases that have a built-in lanyard port. Unfortunately he hasn't started selling silicone cases yet for the Desire. Hopefully sometime in the next few weeks.
I posted a link earlier with a guy in Hong Kong who has started to sell a silicone case that can possibly be modified with the holes for a lanyard.
thanks for the reply. I already have "ruinified" my back cover by placing those self adhesive gripper strips on it so the phone doesn't slip out of my hands. It's way more slippery than the Hero -- which is funny, because so many review spoke of how the phone's materials had more of a grip feel to them... not so. Yes, some resistance vs slipperyness of polished plastic or aluminum, but not enough to be safe.
So that was "be safe not sorry" measure #1.
Measure 2 is: I ordered already a silicon gel case for the Desire. It starts shipping in 5 days. I have no idea the quality. But to me it's insurance at this point, since who knows how long til the market is developed withj accessories. quite amazing how unprepared the accessory market was. Not like this phone was a secret.
I ordered from here, since i am usa:
http://www.amzer.com/Amzer-Silicone-Skin-Jelly-Case-Black-P87961.htm
but found it here initially, a uk vendor for them:
http://www.fommy.co.uk/view-full-page.asp?divid=HTC&model=HTC+Desire&cat=Cases&skuno=87961
I am sure i must have seen it on one of these threads.
I will for sure be fashioning a carry strap one way or another, and how dumb for HTC to "delete" this usability design element... especially when the European Hero (NOT the ones you would have seen in the USA) has the most elegant design including its carry strap hole and method of securing. Just beautiful. I wonder if the Legend has a carry strap or did they abandon it there too...
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You know this was brought up at HoFo. We were talking about creating some sort of lanyard port on the iPhone itself. Maybe if case-mate got the hint and started producing cases....
Anywho, what could be done is get a thick gelli/silicone case and use a small tipped screw driver or even a safety pin to create 2 holes anywhere on the case.
That eBay seller (e-story) that I keep talking about, has Nexus One cases that have a built-in lanyard port. Unfortunately he hasn't started selling silicone cases yet for the Desire. Hopefully sometime in the next few weeks.
I posted a link earlier with a guy in Hong Kong who has started to sell a silicone case that can possibly be modified with the holes for a lanyard.
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I do agree that it was sort of retarded to leave out the lanyard port. Even the MyTouch 3G had it
What you could do is also drill 2 little holes into the back-cover of the phone, line them up with the silicone skin and place 2 holes through the skin also. This way you have added security with the strap being through the back-cover and the skin.
I just did some searching on eBay and it seems that more sellers are starting to push out cases for the Desire. They look pretty good, especially since they cover the whole phone (buttons and trackpad), not just running around the border of the phone -
http://cgi.ebay.com/Blue-Silicone-S...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item414ef7eed5
http://cgi.ebay.com/Black-Silicone-..._MobilePhonesCasesPouches&hash=item4aa097dbda
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silicone-Case-L...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item414ef49799
Thing is...they are all located in Hong Kong
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I do agree that it was sort of retarded to leave out the lanyard port. Even the MyTouch 3G had it
What you could do is also drill 2 little holes into the back-coveri of the phone, line them up with the silicone skin and place 2 holes through the skin also. This way you have added security with the strap being through the back-cover and the skin.
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That's an idea worth considering but of course 2 problems ... backs snap is itself not secure enough for holding weight of hand ... and the warranty void. I did buy 3rd party insurance from square trade which covers accidental damage incl dropping...
Still I would seek some more secure anchor method... If I had some spare time, I swear I would do this: I'd work my way through the corporate maze at HTC until I burrowed into someone in actual product design... and then I would pose the challenge to them from a purely hypothetical point of view about where and how this fish-line could be anchored.
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I do agree that it was sort of retarded to leave out the lanyard port. Even the MyTouch 3G had it
What you could do is also drill 2 little holes into the back-cover of the phone, line them up with the silicone skin and place 2 holes through the skin also. This way you have added security with the strap being through the back-cover and the skin.
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The skin would have the advantage of keeping some extra pressure keeping the back on, with out this I would also be worried about the back pulling off. I would make the holes nearer the bottom because this edge is opposite the edge which is designed to be opened.
I've gone the Zag InvisibleSHIELD route, so I have no plans to fit a silicon skin, so I've had to find a different solution.
I found that I can loop the lanyard fixing chord around the sim in the phone, between the silver sim socket and the 'runner' about 5mm away on the left hand side of the sim. It makes it tight work to get the sim back in place, but it does seem to work. I was considering making a small hole on the right hand edge of the back panel to allow the mounting chord to pass through but now I don't think this is necessary as the back does clip into place with only the slightest bump.
The sim socket, which will now be taking the strain from the lanyard, is fixed very securely. When I first tried to insert the sim into the phone I didn't even realize the 'runner' was there and tried to slide the sim in over the runner and didn't manage to get the socket to pop out.
Spud, congratulations on a GREAT "Post #1" to XDA ---- one of the best examples of a "Post #1" I have seen here in years. I am really thankful you posted this, as I find this to be an essential accessory... One which to me reduces stress far more than any case or screen shield... Knowing I have the phone strapped to my wrist has always given me primary peace of mind for a device that is so precisely put together where one drop could dislodge any number of things, even if a case prevents a knick or scratch.
REQUEST: Could you get a camera that has macro-close-up focus, and take a few extreme close up pictures of your assembly? I have a good sense for what you mean, but nothing speaks like a picture. I was thinking of exploring this kind of route myself, trying to figure out a way similar to how the HERO's anchor point was designed so brilliantly.
I think new members have some restrictions on posting links, and I am guessing no file attachments either, so, would you consider please taking a full series of photos, cover on, cover off, the whole process... and then email me the pics? and then i can post them here, and this could help a lot of people.
You can email me at my user name here @ gmail dot com. Thank you for posting! And welcome to XDA-developers. How do you like your desire? Have you had a touchscreen phone before? If so, which one?
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The skin would have the advantage of keeping some extra pressure keeping the back on, with out this I would also be worried about the back pulling off. I would make the holes nearer the bottom because this edge is opposite the edge which is designed to be opened.
I've gone the Zag InvisibleSHIELD route, so I have no plans to fit a silicon skin, so I've had to find a different solution.
I found that I can loop the lanyard fixing chord around the sim in the phone, between the silver sim socket and the 'runner' about 5mm away on the left hand side of the sim. It makes it tight work to get the sim back in place, but it does seem to work. I was considering making a small hole on the right hand edge of the back panel to allow the mounting chord to pass through but now I don't think this is necessary as the back does clip into place with only the slightest bump.
The sim socket, which will now be taking the strain from the lanyard, is fixed very securely. When I first tried to insert the sim into the phone I didn't even realize the 'runner' was there and tried to slide the sim in over the runner and didn't manage to get the socket to pop out.
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Not recommending it, but have you thought about threading through the two holes for the front top "speaker"?
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REQUEST: Could you get a camera that has macro-close-up focus, and take a few extreme close up pictures of your assembly? I have a good sense for what you mean, but nothing speaks like a picture. I was thinking of exploring this kind of route myself, trying to figure out a way similar to how the HERO's anchor point was designed so brilliantly.
I think new members have some restrictions on posting links, and I am guessing no file attachments either, so, would you consider please taking a full series of photos, cover on, cover off, the whole process... and then email me the pics? and then i can post them here, and this could help a lot of people.
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Sorry, I can't run to a full set of photographs, but I hope the following will suffice.
Hmm. Don't really like that. Looks risky and deforms the case.
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Sorry, I can't run to a full set of photographs, but I hope the following will suffice.
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That's pretty impressive.... I didn't check the inside of mine initially when you described it, and so before the pictures I was imagining that carry strap feeding down through the bottom of the cover, and I was wondering how that would work. So I actually didn't realize til I took the back of my Desire off that it's coming off the left side when looking at the screen, which is good placement ergonomically.
As for the engineering tensions and torques, I have no idea... I was trying to just imagine it in my head, and i applied force to the plastic sim card in the downward direction if the device were to slip from my hand... I can't evaluate but one thing's for sure, as you said, with your scenario of no case, this is, to me, a much better solution that praying no accidental dropping.
HTC really should have handled this (pun intended). Nice job! And thanks for the pics. I didn't know new registrants could post pics until x number of posts, but I guess you've shown otherwise, and that's a good thing.
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Not recommending it, but have you thought about threading through the two holes for the front top "speaker"?
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Well do you mean anchoring it at the top and draping over the back and hanging down that way?
I'm going to simulate what MAYBE you mean, and photograph it.. then post again and ask...
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Not recommending it, but have you thought about threading through the two holes for the front top "speaker"?
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Is this what you had in mind? This is just a "fictional dramatization".. Do not try this without adult supervision. But now that I see it, I wouldn't mind at all seeing 2 black threads at the top...
I guess when I get a silicon gel casing I won't need this solution, but i think it's also pretty good. Now if only someone can determine how & if the black-thread fishing line can be fished through the opening.... Oh, and if this wasn't what you had in mind, what WAS your idea?
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That was it, though as I said, I would not be sure that it would not deform the two holes or interfere with the sound quality.
There is another better option - if you take the back off there are two torx screws in the top left and the top right (from the back) locations. I should imagine that if loosened, something could be looped around the top right one and then it could be tightened back up. Whether that loop would be the lanyard or a connecting piece of strong nylon I don't know. If you really want to go to town, you could probably try to cut a tiny tiny nick so it could come through the back cover where the notch is already cut to let you pry the back off. That's my best suggestion.
Attaching a strap
I have threaded fishing line through 4 of the holes in the speaker thingy on the top back and made a small loop. I have attached my lanyard strap to that and it has worked ok so far.
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I have threaded fishing line through 4 of the holes in the speaker thingy on the top back and made a small loop. I have attached my lanyard strap to that and it has worked ok so far.
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Oh, i would LOVE to see a photo! so cool.
Meanwhile, I have created a lanyard carry strap using a silicon case, punched a needle sized hole through and attached to a small smooth edged thin "plate" about the dimensions of an SD card.
I have been meaning to post my video on this. It is awesome.
But I and OTHERS would love to see your solution in pictures. Could you take some please? and if possible take close up macro shots right at the speaker grill with good lighting shining right in there, maybe a flashlight, so that we can see what IS or is not being obstructed..... the big worry was that fishing a line thru there would puncture the speaker itself.
So could you describe what you discovered?
thank you! great job!
Pics of fishing line method
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Oh, i would LOVE to see a photo! so cool.
thank you! great job!
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OK here are three pics of the finished article. I just removed the back cover, threaded through some fishing line and tied a small loop. I was then able to use this loop as an anchor for the strap.
Nice, but I would really, really worry that the back cover will come off. Better if you can secure it to some of the screws inside the Desire.
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OK here are three pics of the finished article. I just removed the back cover, threaded through some fishing line and tied a small loop. I was then able to use this loop as an anchor for the strap.
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Oh, I see now, I hadn't noticed -- you fed thru the BACK cover speaker grill.... When i first read i thought you had created the solution i made the video simulation about, which was afixing the lanyard fishing line around and behind the FRONT speaker grill -- which is why i mentioned there was fear about tearing into the speaker.
Well you saw the other person's solution, right, where he attached the lanyard to the micro SD card cage inside and send the line out the side. Some people liked that conceot, some didn't.
Okay, i have to post my pics. I have a 50-photo sequence of very detailed extreme close-ups of creating a lanyard strap for use with a silicon casing. It's practically foolproof. I say practically, because there are always ways to be so reckless beyond what any guardrails on a mountain roadway will ever do to protect you and your car from tumbling over the edge and over the mountain
I'd say the concerns in this case are correct... With the attchment point being just the back cover; I'm afraid that is not reliable enough to risk a $550 device's safety on.
I have not reviewing this thread, so not sure if it was on this one or another one where someone talked about using one of thecasing screws of the internal phone device.... though i think these void your warranty.
(time for me to say again: why oh why oh why HTC, why did you blindly follow Apple's iPhone BAD DESIGN PHILOSOPHY and do away with this small little item that protects a $500-$550 device? The design of the HERO *had* the carry strap hook, and it was brilliant and elegantly designed... sheesh !)
Can they tell if you loosen a screw a little?
I stumbled on this http://cheapdroids.com/T-Mobile-G2-Monaco-Aluminum-Case-Black-Open-Screen-Design.html
and was wondering if anyone had it or had reviews about it, looking to see that it wont interfere with keyboard like some do.
Hey quick question! This case does not open the keyboard right?
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jonathann0222 said:
Hey quick question! This case does not open the keyboard right?
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From the picture it looks like a solid one-piece, but then how would you get the phone in there?
"The lock on the side holds the top and bottom of the case tightly together and prevents the case from accidentally opening"
It seems that it's some kind of lock, so that would mean it's openable, but don't hold me to that
*Edit*: http://cheapdroids.com/T-Mobile-G2-Monaco-Aluminum-Case-Silver-Open-Screen-Design.html
Thats the silver one, there you can see the long mechanism a bit better, so from the looks of it, you can still open it.
Ohh I didn't see that shot great gonna order one
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Could you let us/me know how it is? It looks rather interesting
Definitely looking forward to an XDA member's review on this with better pics!
Once I get it pics and review will be up i really just want something easier to take on an off then the ones that tmobile has cause I use a case for work which is painting, and the tmobile cases felt like i would screw the phone up taking them on and off alot.
I am very interested in this case as well and will probably order. I found a different seller on eBay selling this case, link below. It includes more pictures as well.
http://cgi.ebay.com/T-Mobile-G2-Mon...Accessories&hash=item256083857c#ht_1724wt_983
Also found this retailer that has a video of it, looks slightly bulky.
http://www.wirelessground.com/t-mobile-g2-aluminum-black-case.html
looks like oyu need to open just to use keyboard screw that
ionic7 said:
looks like oyu need to open just to use keyboard screw that
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Well a lot of people around here are looking for that. Something to lock the keyboard in place during normal day to day use. That way it isn't opening in your pocket and stuff like that.
shadowofzeus said:
Well a lot of people around here are looking for that. Something to lock the keyboard in place during normal day to day use. That way it isn't opening in your pocket and stuff like that.
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Yea that works out for them but it means im still on the hunt >>
I agree in theory you shouldn't have to need this case. But if you are like me, my phone hinge is loose and it feels wobbly to even text. So if this case can hold the goods together securely then it looks like its worth it.
Just ordered one. Let's see if its better then the otterbox.
[G2/HTC Vision]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q606qauJ4A&feature=related
Looks sturdy. The added bulk keeps me away though.
I agree, I am worried about the excess bulkiness. Looks like a brick! All my friends have iPhone 4's so I dont want to pull out something looking a decade old! However pics and youtube videos can be deceiving. The G2 is a beautiful phone and doesnt seem to show scratches easy. I too have the loose hinge and like I said in a previous post, scotch tape on the sides is the best answer!
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I agree, I am worried about the excess bulkiness. Looks like a brick! All my friends have iPhone 4's so I dont want to pull out something looking a decade old! However pics and youtube videos can be deceiving. The G2 is a beautiful phone and doesnt seem to show scratches easy. I too have the loose hinge and like I said in a previous post, scotch tape on the sides is the best answer!
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Agreed. I always find myself buying cases for all of my devices. 2 weeks later i end up ditching them going back to naked. right now i just have the stealthguards full body protector on which is excellent even for 10$. I, for one, hate the g2's keyboard, however, its one of the best ones out thus far. (if that makes any sense)
Anybody who ordered this case received it yet? Ordered mine on the 17th and still hasn't arrived....
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DO NOT ORDER. Took forever to come and the case is complete crap. Finish sucks. Build sucks. Overall suck
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Just been into phones4u and I can confirm the lense cover is different to the vodafone one I saw on Friday.... the voda one had an almost flush lense cover where as the
P4u phone didn't have a lense cover...
Thought I'd let everyone know asap
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I warned p4u that it was missing the lense and that they probably have a dodgy batch.... you can clearly see that the lense is missing.. .
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Could you not have posted this in the other thread? This kind of crap makes it hard to find anything in the forum. Also, my vodafone Sensation has a recessed camera, no flush casing.
Then yours is missing the lense cover that's meant to be on the case..... I'm sorry for making a new thread but personally I'd be happy to know this news if I didn't already know
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Why exactly would it be missing? HTC wouldn't send out a phone with such a GLARING error if it really was an issue.
People have said in the other thread, that all demo devices have covers, but devices we have don't. If you look at, where is the cover meant to go? That black ring inside the case is almost flush with the back of the case.
The phone vodafone let me play with was straight out the box. It was about 1/3mm indented within the case.
I'm not lying I just thought people ought to know. I'm going to there stored on Monday to get it and will maker sure it has the lense cover.
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Barff1984 said:
The phone vodafone let me play with was straight out the box. It was about 1/3mm indented within the case.
I'm not lying I just thought people ought to know. I'm going to there stored on Monday to get it and will maker sure it has the lense cover.
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Any photo to confirm?
Like I said, I highly doubt HTC would send out devices with such a massive flaw.
No but I can safely say the phone p4u showed me whilst they checked it was unlocked for me, had a lack of lense composers to the one vodafone showed me on Friday after opening a fresh box for me. Definitely going to vodafone tomorrow to get it as I think the lense cover with be beneficial with time.
Tl;dr. There is definitely a difference from the phones I saw.
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It hasnt actually been confirmed by vodafone or htc, your just giving your findings.
As far as I can see, no retail boxed sensation has the lens cover flush with the case.
It only seems to be demo phones that do. Perhaps early production models, used for demo only.
I'll get it tomorrow and show you... I'm not complaining nor am I from another board here to slate the sensation... I'm just reporting my findings as its something I'd like to know if I was missing a lense cover from a phone i just bought. The phone I was shown from vodafone was straight out of the box and not a demo.
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What I dont get is how there could be so many phones without it. Its not like it even looks like its missing from my phone, it looks to be designed that way, there is no room to fit an extra lens over the hole.
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What I dont get is how there could be so many phones without it. Its not like it even looks like its missing from my phone, it looks to be designed that way, there is no room to fit an extra lens over the hole.
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^I agree with this.
Well, I hope you're not disappointed and find one with a lens cover. But also be ready in the eventuality that the design was changed.
Personally I think the only lens covers which are beneficial are sliding lens covers. Glass ones can get scratched and sure that protects the lens, but the only way to benefit from that protection is to remove the battery cover because if not you're still taking pictures through the scratches. And who wants to take off the cover every time they take a picture?
Please don't think I made this thread purely to spark an argument... it was not the intention if it seems that way. I'm just letting people know that there is definitely as difference.
I've had a bit of time to read peoples comments and am definitely getting the phone tomorrow regardless
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Please don't think I made this thread purely to spark an argument... it was not the intention if it seems that way. I'm just letting people know that there is definitely as difference.
I've had a bit of time to read peoples comments and am definitely getting the phone tomorrow regardless
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I dont think you are trying to spark an argument, just finding it hard to believe there is a fault thats all.
I'm going to be interested to see what your replacement is like and what we hear back from vodafone and htc about the issue.
If it's recessed but edges are sealed that is even better option than if it was levelled with cover, don't you think? Less of a chance of scratching it.
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If it's recessed but edges are sealed that is even better option than if it was levelled with cover, don't you think? Less of a chance of scratching it.
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that's what i mean! this is how the vodafone was that i saw on Friday...the case had the lense and it was ever so slightly recessed but it was all sealed.
The one from Phones4U didn't have the case lense, was about 1mm recesssed and Thought to myself dust will get in there a lot more and IF it got scratched, then you most likely need to pay more to fix.
thinking about going into to town at 9am tomorrow to get it from voda so i can spend all day playing with it whilst at work. Pretty sure this is the right phone for me. must admit...the main screen looks great have the curved edges
ok..my last post about this issue until i get the phone for myself tomorrow
I've just watched the slashgear unboxing vid and I'm 100% sure that the one he's carrying is the same one that was shown to me in Phones4u, where as the one i was shown in Vodafone definitely had a sealed lens cover on the rear casing...which would stop dust getting into the camera lens/battery area/chasis.
Can anyone who got it from Vodafone confirm this? I know a letter has been sent out to HTC about this, I'm personally just thinking about other people that are missing the lens, as i really think it's a faulty batch. The phone, when i played with it in P4U really did seem like it was missing the lens and didn't look complete without it.
This video shows a lens cover. Skip to 3:20, also at 4:10. You'll see the reflections.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-yRVxCvv7c
Again, don't know where he got the phone, but he posts here, so should be able to find out.
That video, 4:10, reflection isn't in the surface of the phone...there is no lens cover on that handset...but there isn't on mine either!
i'm a free diver/ spear fisherman and i would love to dive with my phone and take some vids... i've found one but it's for the hatefull iphone http://www.apnea.fr/actus/liphone-amphibie does anyone know a case like that?
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i'm a free diver/ spear fisherman and i would love to dive with my phone and take some vids... i've found one but it's for the hatefull iphone http://www.apnea.fr/actus/liphone-amphibie does anyone know a case like that?
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You are better off buying an underwater video camera.
yeah you are probably right... lol....
Seido just put a new waterproof case on their website I think its called the "obex". Looks very similar to the life proof cases . To bad its only for the s3 at this the it looks like.
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i'm a free diver/ spear fisherman and i would love to dive with my phone and take some vids... i've found one but it's for the hatefull iphone http://www.apnea.fr/actus/liphone-amphibie does anyone know a case like that?
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zizuno said:
You are better off buying an underwater video camera.
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You can buy a cheap camera setup that will do your videos from a multitude of online sources. I used to have and use an old sony handycam 8mp version and an underwater case that I used on my deep dives and wreck dives. The camera AND case cost me under $250.00
There is a place you send your phone to and they do waterproof your phone for a fee and send it back. Phone does not have to be in a case and looks stock. I remember seeing videos on it. They apply a nano-coating to electronics, making them water safe. Its the coating they put on the I5 when doing the drop test comparison against the s3 into the pool. Stupid biased comparisons. Here is two companies that offer it. You can be the guinea pig and let us know how well it works LOL.
http://www.liquipel.com/
http://www.hzoinside.com/
Here is a video for HZO on a S2: http://phys.org/news/2011-11-hzo-demos-cell-water-proofing-product.html
Looks as though the water shorts out the usb connector though making it think its being plugged in while being put into the water..
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There is a place you send your phone to and they do waterproof your phone for a fee and send it back. Phone does not have to be in a case and looks stock. I remember seeing videos on it. They apply a nano-coating to electronics, making them water safe. Its the coating they put on the I5 when doing the drop test comparison against the s3 into the pool. Stupid biased comparisons. Here is two companies that offer it. You can be the guinea pig and let us know how well it works LOL.
http://www.liquipel.com/
http://www.hzoinside.com/
Here is a video for HZO on a S2: http://phys.org/news/2011-11-hzo-demos-cell-water-proofing-product.html
Looks as though the water shorts out the usb connector though making it think its being plugged in while being put into the water..
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While these APPEAR to be a good idea, however neither one of them would be suitable for what the OP is looking for. If your just wanting a coating to protect your device on a "just in case," idea, then by all means get this done to your phone, myself though, I go through enough phones that I wouldn't be able to do this at a viable means.
(General lay mans terms being used here.) One of the main reasons for the case is that when you get to +2 atmospheres (or about 20 feet under water), the pressure starts to try to push out (evacuate) all air and compress things. Without the case, the device would crush in on itself from pressure.
Again though getting a 5 atm proof case for the skyrocket would be near of negligible to the functionality of the device. You would be much better served to get an actual underwater camera case and a good but inexpensive camera. (matched of course).
Go pro 250 dive housing <---nesessary 50 boom prob solved and cheap and good quality and relatively cheap accessories. I wouldn't trust the coating due to salinity of the ocean and the possibility of not 100%of the parts getting coated 100%.
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Anytime I purchase a new phone, it is the time to put on a new ZAGG. I'm willing to try out other brands, but of course this is the usual in your face brand available at many local retailers.
Best Buy was ready with a complete line from original to smudge proof to high definition. They didn't have the front and back which is pretty common. ZAGG's site never seems to list every combination available either.
Anyways since running one of my Note 2's naked to prove a point, I've gone back to putting something on a new phone shortly after unboxing it. I don't care how many Youtube videos there are about Gorilla Glass this or that. A nice pair of keys or some good ole American currency in the form of coins seems to be a powerful combination against a phone.
S4 Related Stuff
Trident Aegis Series Case - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2271946
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Incipio DualPro SHINE (Silicrylic) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2255790
Seidio Surface Case (Platinum PT @ Best Buy) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2264686
ZAGG InvisibleSHIELD Install - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2255755
Install Adobe Flash - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2257942
Setup AT&T Visual Voicemail (not messages) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyuUyZ2nxYs
Setup Google Voice - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyuUyZ2nxYs
TV Remote Demonstration - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ltlo0UNfuA
SpeedTest in Houston Medical Center vs HTC One (AT&T) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxqzlkGfjkw
Galaxy S4 vs HTC One vs Nexus 4 vs Note 2 Quadrant Benchmark Test - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjYesuj-7ac
Unboxing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnUlkKMfsrw
Just my opinion but if you are recording a video of a screen protector installation and you cut out the tough/problem moments (at 4:13, 4:36, and 6:00), it makes the video less helpful. I personally would rather watch a longer video and see how you deal with the tough moments instead of you cutting them out since that makes the installation seem easier than it actually is to put on.
Of course that's just my opinion, trying to give constructive criticism to help with future videos, feel free to throw it in the trash if it doesn't help at all or I'm just talking crazy
There really weren't any issues. I did cut some of the constant squeegee moments out IIRC. Use application fluid liberally and go to town.
Thanks for the feedback though. I'll make a version where I don't remove a second for you to look at.
I'll also be sure to watch your videos for guidance in the future. Just post an example here.
EDIT: 4:13 just pull it up to align it better. Just like starting all over again. 4:16 I let go of it once it was visually aligned. 6:00 probably should have shown more but just used the squeegee a lot. When you use liberal amounts of application fluid, it makes alignment easy. You just have more to squeegee.
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Here's that 46 seconds I cut out....
Enjoy!
Not sure you read the manual but you were suppose to turn the phone off and let it be off like 12 hour for the water and bubble to go away. And also not really good to spray right on the phone as it goes into the holes. Its right in the manual. I just installed the non HD but i think the HD might look even better. SGP is the best to be honest but for the time being i use this until i get a hold of Spigen .
Not sure if you listened to the video, but I talked about that for 30 to 45 seconds.
I keep it on to check for dust trapped in there.
Premium phones aren't too hydrophobic. If you choose to spray directly, pay attention when you in squeegee.
If you want someone's real feedback who has installed them several times with no dust trapped in between layers and no bubbles, watch the video. If you want to read a manual... Read the manual. Any company that did suggest you to spray the device would have a huge liability for doing so. No company in their right mind would even hint at it.
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Not sure if you listened to the video, but I talked about that for 30 to 45 seconds.
I keep it on to check for dust trapped in there.
Premium phones aren't too hydrophobic. If you choose to spray directly, pay attention when you in squeegee.
If you want someone's real feedback who has installed them several times with no dust trapped in between layers and no bubbles, watch the video. If you want to read a manual... Read the manual. Any company that did suggest you to spray the device would have a huge liability for doing so. No company in their right mind would even hint at it.
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They dont recommend it for a good reason! And you spray it right into the speaker even which is not ok. Sure you dont get dust or bubble but is that primary concern? Still when you put something like this some people will take it as its ok to do so and might end up damaging their phone.
And saying in the video if you get away with it is pretty stupid phrasing, what does that mean even? Do you mean its luck so take a gamble with your brand new phone? If you dont this many times than you should know better
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They dont recommend it for a good reason! And you spray it right into the speaker even which is not ok. Sure you dont get dust or bubble but is that primary concern? Still when you put something like this some people will take it as its ok to do so and might end up damaging their phone.
And saying in the video if you get away with it is pretty stupid phrasing, what does that mean even? Do you mean its luck so take a gamble with your brand new phone? If you dont this many times than you should know better
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Spend your life reading manuals. Obviously you didn't need to watch the video, and obviously you didn't originally or you would have heard what I said. I'll continue to give advice based on what I've done in life as long as it dose not put people in harms way. I rather show a worst case scenario vs someone watching and wondering what happens if they accidentally got a lot of liquid on the screen.
I'm no cell phone designer, but I'm willing to bet the speaker grille was designed in a manner to resist water. Actually that the whole assembly was. We have sweaty people using phones, people in downpours using phones, etc. The flagship device has to take this into account or lose to a competitor's phone. Despite all of this, I still took the time to explain that I was deviating from the manual.
I guess I should go rip the supercharger out of my car as well because I just voided the warranty on it by installing it. Car manufacturer doesn't believe I should run boost. I am one of those people who buys a new car and modifies it. Perhaps you fall into the category of those who wait for the warranty to run out before touching it.
Yes, I blocked you from the Youtube channel because you were just voting down my videos. When you commented from another username you did the same thing again. I make these videos to support my family. I have a baby girl that was born on the 24th. You also fall into the category of those who are willing to criticize, but you don't have a valid Youtube channel of your own. If you want to do something productive, make videos and show things from your perspective instead of coming to my channel to bash me.
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Spend your life reading manuals. Obviously you didn't need to watch the video, and obviously you didn't originally or you would have heard what I said. I'll continue to give advice based on what I've done in life as long as it dose not put people in harms way. I rather show a worst case scenario vs someone watching and wondering what happens if they accidentally got a lot of liquid on the screen.
I'm no cell phone designer, but I'm willing to bet the speaker grille was designed in a manner to resist water. Actually that the whole assembly was. We have sweaty people using phones, people in downpours using phones, etc. The flagship device has to take this into account or lose to a competitor's phone. Despite all of this, I still took the time to explain that I was deviating from the manual.
I guess I should go rip the supercharger out of my car as well because I just voided the warranty on it by installing it. Car manufacturer doesn't believe I should run boost. I am one of those people who buys a new car and modifies it. Perhaps you fall into the category of those who wait for the warranty to run out before touching it.
Yes, I blocked you from the Youtube channel because you were just voting down my videos. When you commented from another username you did the same thing again. I make these videos to support my family. I have a baby girl that was born on the 24th. You also fall into the category of those who are willing to criticize, but you don't have a valid Youtube channel of your own. If you want to do something productive, make videos and show things from your perspective instead of coming to my channel to bash me.
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Ok so much text for basically saying you "think" its ok but your not sure. I only pointed out my view and highlighted your mistake. Your comment saying if you can get away with it is just silly to me but that is my opinion cause its just could cause you damage period. Has nothing to do with if your cautious or not.
I actually was searching to see if others used the small sticker on the home key when i bumped into your video and was surprised that
first you did not turn the phone of and second you keep spraying huge amount of water straight into the phone which is never ok. this is totally different from when you hold your phone and talk when your sweaty i hope you do realize that.
And there is a reason why there is a like/dislike on youtube, when you use the service you agree to accept it for what its worth, i was not rude or anything and added my opinion so when you sensor stuff out/block a user your taking it to another level. I actually never dont dislike but this was in my view a bad video (not bad for most part but what i already pointed out) so i made a thumb down. You as a reviewer should learn to accept when people dislike something and learn from it instead of doing censorship, that will hurt you more in the long run if you want a good reputation, take it as a friendly advice.
No i dont have a channel so what? i watch allot of videos and as said i'm usually not criticizing without a good reason. Anyway i'm willing to let it go if you can.
And congrats on your baby :good:
thanks very much. the video was messy but im sure that's how it is in real life anyways. and you did include the 46 seconds you deleted under the video in the comments so idk why everyone is complaining. its right there lol
I state if you can get away with using no fluid go for it.
"Use as little spray as possible."
Isn't that what I said?
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I state if you can get away with using no fluid go for it.
"Use as little spray as possible."
Isn't that what I said?
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We obviously talk in circles lets just drop the discussion and enjoy our S4's. I'm actually going to order a spigen, the ZAG is still not so clear. Its also a bit plasticky so i miss the glass, spigen has a glass protector so i'm considering that. Have you tried those?
http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/sa...ctor-glas-tr-slim-premium-tempered-glass.html
vampyren said:
We obviously talk in circles lets just drop the discussion and enjoy our S4's. I'm actually going to order a spigen, the ZAG is still not so clear. Its also a bit plasticky so i miss the glass, spigen has a glass protector so i'm considering that. Have you tried those?
http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/sa...ctor-glas-tr-slim-premium-tempered-glass.html
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Fine fine... Sorry.
Anyways, I haven't gotten many Spigen products. When they were a upcoming company, just getting into the spotlight they sent me some cases. I loved the Argo (I believe that's what it's called) for the GS3.
The HD InvisibleSHIELDs definitely still have the orange peel effect, but it it hard to notice, for me at least, when the screen is lit.
Just cause you mentioned it, I might go through some Spigen products and make an order.
chrisngrod said:
Fine fine... Sorry.
Anyways, I haven't gotten many Spigen products. When they were a upcoming company, just getting into the spotlight they sent me some cases. I loved the Argo (I believe that's what it's called) for the GS3.
The HD InvisibleSHIELDs definitely still have the orange peel effect, but it it hard to notice, for me at least, when the screen is lit.
Just cause you mentioned it, I might go through some Spigen products and make an order.
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cheers, the thing that bothers me with InvisibleSHIELD is the feeling, its not very glossy, when i use swypekey or drag my finger it just dont feel as it should,its a bit "sticky" feeling to it. Also it gets sticky on the edges after some time and pulls durt to itself. Its still new so no issue but i know my iphone use to gather lot of dirt after being in my pocket on the edges. Never had that problem with other brands. But all and all Spigen has some of the best i seen (will check the Argo too). Hori (from Japan) is actually best and is close to bubble free but they dont make for all gadgets. I got Hori for my PS Vita and i cant even see the layer. Its truly amazing.
Looking forward to some Spigen review
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cheers, the thing that bothers me with InvisibleSHIELD is the feeling, its not very glossy, when i use swypekey or drag my finger it just dont feel as it should,its a bit "sticky" feeling to it. Also it gets sticky on the edges after some time and pulls durt to itself. Its still new so no issue but i know my iphone use to gather lot of dirt after being in my pocket on the edges. Never had that problem with other brands. But all and all Spigen has some of the best i seen (will check the Argo too). Hori (from Japan) is actually best and is close to bubble free but they dont make for all gadgets. I got Hori for my PS Vita and i cant even see the layer. Its truly amazing.
Looking forward to some Spigen review
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Cool.. I need to look up all this other stuff, but I'm at work right now... SHHHHH
Going to make a blog style site with a forum subsection on my main forum for case/screen protector reviews. I'm rusty because I have a full time job again. For a year all I did was work on my own forum and make videos.
Sounds like fun
But nice with full time job so you get income every month. Looking forward to new reviews
I like how everyone just got along that fast
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Keys and coins will not scratch the screen, it's more likely particles of sand in the air found themselves in your pocket or something, (you can find countless articles around here)
Anyways, I have a Zagg on my Xperia Arc and after 1 year of use it has multiple stretch marks (around 20 of them) which is slightly annoying and the oleophobic coating seems to have disappeared :< (that maybe my fault however) and like a comment from before the feel of Zagg is not for me :/ it doesn't have a slick feel to it.
One tip however is to apply screen protectors in your bathroom (as crazy as it sounds) as it the room with the least likely to have dust, especially after a shower/bath
great video !
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Keys and coins will not scratch the screen, it's more likely particles of sand in the air found themselves in your pocket or something, (you can find countless articles around here)
Anyways, I have a Zagg on my Xperia Arc and after 1 year of use it has multiple stretch marks (around 20 of them) which is slightly annoying and the oleophobic coating seems to have disappeared :< (that maybe my fault however) and like a comment from before the feel of Zagg is not for me :/ it doesn't have a slick feel to it.
One tip however is to apply screen protectors in your bathroom (as crazy as it sounds) as it the room with the least likely to have dust, especially after a shower/bath
great video !
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Actually that is something i seen before and it's a good advice to do it in the bathroom after a shower, all the humidity will kill the dust
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I like how everyone just got along that fast
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Right. I was about to bust out the popcorn. XD