I'd like to pick up the Touch Pro to use on the US AT&T network but I'm not sure if the unlocked version fully supports the US 3G and UMTS data frequencies.
I know the phone will work and I'll be able to connect at least at Edge speads... but will it work on all the frequencies AT&T uses in the US?
I don't really care if it's AT&T branded or not. I'd actually rather have an un-branded device because of it's higher re-sell value. The price is a little high but it's a write-off so it's not a big deal. I'd like to jump in and order one today but I want to make sure it fully supports everything here on the US AT&T network first.
guitarlp said:
I'd like to pick up the Touch Pro to use on the US AT&T network but I'm not sure if the unlocked version fully supports the US 3G and UMTS data frequencies.
I know the phone will work and I'll be able to connect at least at Edge speads... but will it work on all the frequencies AT&T uses in the US?
I don't really care if it's AT&T branded or not. I'd actually rather have an un-branded device because of it's higher re-sell value. The price is a little high but it's a write-off so it's not a big deal. I'd like to jump in and order one today but I want to make sure it fully supports everything here on the US AT&T network first.
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from what I know when u open it out of the box it will not work with ATT HSDPA network, however if you look at the link below, if you dont mind flashing this ATT rom to your Pro when you get it (requires you to CID unlock the device do at your own risk) they claim it will unlock the US HSDPA frequencies from what I gather from HTC locking the frequencies out is that ATT made them sign a deal that they will lock the frequencies out until ATT releases their verison of the PRO so people will buy theirs instead of the unlocked HTC one from Europe, I dont have a pro so I cant say if it works but it would make sense because the ATT version will have US and overseas frequencies so I would assume HTC used the same radio chips in their branded version, let me know if it works...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410945
1.) Once you have perm root and flash a custom rom you can use any SIM from any carrier correct?
I had a HTC Inspire from AT&T and running a custom rom put in a Tmobile SIM card and it worked but I had terrible reception.
2.) I also have a HTC Sensation from Tmobile that I just recently rooted and it wouldn't work with my At&t SIM. I understand this is due to the Tmobile rom on the phone and to have the at&t SIM work I'd need a custom rom or unlock the sim right?
I've read some about SuperCID but I understand that is only if you want to run another carriers rom (exp: run a european carriers standard sensation rom on a tmobile sensation) Is this correct?
3.) My main question is that since a phone's radio deals with how it interacts with wifi,gps and the carriers network wouldn't using a tmobile radio with a at&t SIM always give crappy performance and is there anything I can do about this? At&t doesn't have a radio for the sensation. Or am i looking at this all wrong?
Thank you for your help!
AT&T and T-mobile run off of different frequencies. The frequencies the phone uses does not change with the radio. When using a T-mobile phone with an AT&T SIM, you are only going to get edge (2G) speeds, and vice versa.
There is nothing to be done about this? Edge might as well be no data at all :/
mysongranhills said:
There is nothing to be done about this? Edge might as well be no data at all :/
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Nope, nothing that can be done. There are some pentaband phones out that will get 3G/4G on both...galaxy nexus, and versions of the evo 3d and optimus 3d.
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Well now that the Tmobile Htc one s has been released, comes the question:
besides the HSPA speed of the tmobile version, which one would be better for a tmobile customer to get ? the unlocked international version or the tmobile version?
in other words, are there any disadvantages of getting the tmobile version vs the international one ( in terms of being able to root it, S-OFF tool, unlocking, gps locked?, bloating,,,etc)
Well they're really the same beside the hspa+ which you already know. i think you should check out the t-mobile version cause in my opinion it wont have as much defects as the international version.
what defects are you talking about in the international version??
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what defects are you talking about in the international version??
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I believe he's talking about the chipping that the MAO version is experiencing. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589364
This only happens on the black version so if you order the gray/blue version you won't experience this issue.
The international version does not have tmobile AWS bands sso the decision is prretty much made for you already if youre a tmobile customer.
other than the radio will roms be interchangeable?
TMobile HTC One S will support 42mbps "4G"
International HTC One S won't but it doesn't come with bloatware too.
how about roms?
will the same rom be working on both versions?
International one has no 4G but the T-Mobile Variant does.
Roms should be interchangeable.
They are the exact same phone minus some frequency bands.
If I was looking to pick up an unlocked ONE S to use for my international travels, am I better off going for the INT version? Will the Tmobile version be worse on my battery due to its 4g capabilities? What about Mobile hotspot for tethering. Will I have an easier time with that purchasing an unlocked international phone rather than unlocking a tmobile (with my unlocked Verizon phones I can not use hotspot, even when I am on GSM out of the country with foreign SIM).
I just figured when they come to Tmobile it will be fairly easy picking up an unlocked ONE S from ebay or somthing....
mbd4524 said:
If I was looking to pick up an unlocked ONE S to use for my international travels, am I better off going for the INT version? Will the Tmobile version be worse on my battery due to its 4g capabilities? What about Mobile hotspot for tethering. Will I have an easier time with that purchasing an unlocked international phone rather than unlocking a tmobile (with my unlocked Verizon phones I can not use hotspot, even when I am on GSM out of the country with foreign SIM).
I just figured when they come to Tmobile it will be fairly easy picking up an unlocked ONE S from ebay or somthing....
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same question here
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If I was looking to pick up an unlocked ONE S to use for my international travels, am I better off going for the INT version? Will the Tmobile version be worse on my battery due to its 4g capabilities? What about Mobile hotspot for tethering. Will I have an easier time with that purchasing an unlocked international phone rather than unlocking a tmobile (with my unlocked Verizon phones I can not use hotspot, even when I am on GSM out of the country with foreign SIM).
I just figured when they come to Tmobile it will be fairly easy picking up an unlocked ONE S from ebay or somthing....
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The T-Mobile version doesn't have "4G", it is really "advanced" 3G. It has no more drain on the battery than their actual 3G does since it is in fact, 3G.
T-Mobile doesn't even have "4G".
joshnichols189 said:
The T-Mobile version doesn't have "4G", it is really "advanced" 3G. It has no more drain on the battery than their actual 3G does since it is in fact, 3G.
T-Mobile doesn't even have "4G".
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In other words, it should no make a difference for me if I buy the international version or unlocked tmobile version. What about tethering. Does anybody have experience with that?
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Roms should be interchangeable.
They are the exact same phone minus some frequency bands.
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This is what I thought. Would it be possible to flash the One S so that it can be used abroad?
Tethering is excellent on the UK three mobile networkl
mbd4524 said:
In other words, it should no make a difference for me if I buy the international version or unlocked tmobile version. What about tethering. Does anybody have experience with that?
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Well if you are on T-Mobile US, you want the T-Mobile version because the international version will only get 2G on T-Mobile US.
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So with the refarm..can you clarify some things for me. An att phone will or won't get 4g hspa+42 on tmobile? If and when Tmobile gets LTE will an existing att 4glte phone will or won't work on tmobile future lte network?
If an att phone will get 4ghspa+42 and future tmobile 4glte
it would seem to make more sense to get an SIII unlocked att phone since it would future proof things in that it unlike a current tmobile version would eventually get 4glte?
No
I believe there are currently no att phones that get 4g on tmobile. I do think 1 or 2 tmobile phones that will work with att. Lte depend on the band of lte if it will work or not but most likely no
but if they do the refarm woudn't att bands work on tmobile?
So I'm heading to the US for a holiday and just got myself a prepaid Tmobile SIM to use while I'm there.
I just realised that I may NOT get 3G with Tmobile as the One S intl edition does not support the TMobile radio frequencies. Is this true?
Otherwise I may have to use my wife's Gnex as I'm pretty sure it supports 1900Mhz HSPDA.
My HTC One S (S4) is through T-Mobile. Here's the link to T-Mobile One S specs so you can verify it for yourself.
yeah thanks... the frequencies are different, the intl version only supports 850/900/2100 3G which doesn't look like would work with Tmobile. I think it's a safer bet to go with GNEX as it seems to have 1900.