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Why are you guys putting out so many roms and kernels, I can hardly get any "real" work done on my phone because I'm too busy testing out every new version of every new rom/kernel that comes out. Come on! I need some sleep to.
Well frankly I prefer a buffet where I can choose what I want rather than being told what to eat.
In Soviet Russia, ROM chooses YOU!
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In Soviet Russia, ROM chooses YOU!
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Haha fantastic !
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ITA!
The myriad of ROMs and kernels have turned me into somewhat of a flash addict.. if I'm not flashing something at least a couple times a day my skin starts itching and I begin to twitch.
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ITA!
The myriad of ROMs and kernels have turned me into somewhat of a flash addict.. if I'm not flashing something at least a couple times a day my skin starts itching and I begin to twitch.
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Welcome to the brotherhood my fellow crackflashaholic.
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Well since you guys are soo experienced with different kernals let me ask you this question..
I just got my thunderbolt and I wanna root my phone and overclock it safely to 1.6g. So, which kernel would you recommend? BTW I AM A BIT OF A NOOB!! so please try and keep the terms as "noob friendly" as possibly haha. Thanks guys!
leanKernel supports 1.92 and BAMF will do up to 1.4, I believe.
Do you want sense? Run Perfect Storm roms with bamf kernel.
Do you want aosp? Run cyanogen with imoseyon aosp kernel.
Do you want sense removed? Run blackhole with bamf kernel.
OC to 1.92 I don't suggest, my phone locks up at that speed. OC to 1.4 stable.
magicriggs said:
Do you want sense? Run Perfect Storm roms with bamf kernel.
Do you want aosp? Run cyanogen with imoseyon aosp kernel.
Do you want sense removed? Run blackhole with bamf kernel.
OC to 1.92 I don't suggest, my phone locks up at that speed. OC to 1.4 stable.
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I'm stock, rooted, running bang 4.4.5 kernel, and get 24+hrs from my extended battery (a must-have) might be weird, but I like Sense...
OK, so here's a (useful?) question/request to all you ROM addicts (I am not one, unfortunately!):
Is there (it would be nice if there was) a comparison of ALL kernels and ROMs to see which gets the best battery life on their Thunderbolt?
This would, obviously, have to be done by one person trying out different combinations of kernels and ROMs, as everyone has different usage patterns (and different batteries!! --each battery, it seems, behaves differently).
But I think it would be very helpful for many of us folks to have a good, consistent, complete, at least somewhat accurate comparison, as the battery issue seems to be probably the single largest issue affecting the most people with the TB.
Anyone?
Why do you need to overlook to 1.6? For being a noob, that's rather aggressive
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027706
read read read!
noob question - what does s-off mean?
also, what advantages are there to removing sense?
Just a holdover until CM7 is fully working.
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noob question - what does s-off mean?
also, what advantages are there to removing sense?
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S-off means security is turned off on your phone. This will allow you to install whatever ROM you want to the phone.
ooohhhh
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Just a holdover until CM7 is fully working.
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This i can't wait for!
I might root and then hang by until the CM arrives. Only had my Bolt about 10 days now, and want to see it in action untouched, (but also minus these bad network connections), if CM7 is indeed close i'm going to wait for it.
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This i can't wait for!
I might root and then hang by until the CM arrives. Only had my Bolt about 10 days now, and want to see it in action untouched, (but also minus these bad network connections), if CM7 is indeed close i'm going to wait for it.
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CM is here. They have some WIFI and 4g problems but other than that the ROM is complete.
I looked around but it doesnt appear that we dont have an sbc kernel, so Im calling out to see if as dev would be willing to make one.
i second that. we def need sbc for nexus s and nexus s 4g. i love the phone, but it never charges to 100% always stalls at 94-95. I have used SBC on evo since it came it came out. never had any issues. and the battery life was amazing. hopefully someone takes the initiative and cooks a sbc kernel.
thanx in advance
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I looked around but it doesnt appear that we dont have an sbc kernel, so Im calling out to see if as dev would be willing to make one.
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I think netarchy said it would not be possible on the ns 4g. He also recommends not using them anyway. I trust his judgement
The jury is out on that one. The SBC for the evo I used since the beginning and never had an issue, just amazing battery life. Though I am getting great battery life on this phone too. Not sure what the complaints are. Try an evo first then come to the nexus. The difference will be astounding.
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I think netarchy said it would not be possible on the ns 4g. He also recommends not using them anyway. I trust his judgement
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it can be done. i respect netarchy's opinion, but at the end of the day its his opinion. not a fact. like many others i haven't had a single issue with SBC on my evo. if netarchy is worried about causing damage to the phone we shouldnt be using custom kernels at all. we should't be OC . he is contradicting himself. like i said i respect his work and his opinion, but it should be upto people to decide if they want to install SBC or not. SBC is just as bad as OC your phone. At the end of the day with OC you might ruin your phone with SBC you will just ruin your battery. i am willing to take that chance. i hope and wish someone will incorporate SBC. Hopefully its Tiamat. his kernels are a piece of work. i have used all of their kernels for my evo (netarchy, savaged, tiamat) and tiamat came out victorious time and time again.
SBC is for HTC kernels, you crazy bastards
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SBC is for HTC kernels, you crazy bastards
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Lol, I didn't know that. I was hoping we would see it on the NS4G. I used ZenDroid and then SavagedZen SBC on my Evo and I would get a couple days with it. I loved it.
Ha ha, I wasnt gonna argue with em lol.
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SBC is for HTC kernels, you crazy bastards
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Sigh.. This is why the rest of the android world hates cdma users this topic has been already discussed elsewhere has been posted in the appropriate section
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it can be done. i respect netarchy's opinion, but at the end of the day its his opinion. not a fact. like many others i haven't had a single issue with SBC on my evo. if netarchy is worried about causing damage to the phone we shouldnt be using custom kernels at all. we should't be OC . he is contradicting himself. like i said i respect his work and his opinion, but it should be upto people to decide if they want to install SBC or not. SBC is just as bad as OC your phone. At the end of the day with OC you might ruin your phone with SBC you will just ruin your battery. i am willing to take that chance. i hope and wish someone will incorporate SBC. Hopefully its Tiamat. his kernels are a piece of work. i have used all of their kernels for my evo (netarchy, savaged, tiamat) and tiamat came out victorious time and time again.
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I never said it couldn't be done. I said it would probably not end up in my builds.
I've made no contradiction to myself, I personally don't support it. I made it available in some evo builds by request with an -at your own risk, unsupported- approach.
There are established and definite risks with truly charging a lithium ion battery to full capacity. On the low end of the spectrum, you may simply be shortening some time off the full life of the battery. Whether or not you run into it is a crapshoot of course.
I believe the comment of mine you're going off of was from yesterday at a point in my day when I was already in somewhat of a foul mood from events happening in life, so I was probably a bit harsher than intended (and I've made an edit to try and clear up any possible confusion). ;D
That said, I believe you are more likely to damage the battery in the long term than you are to damage your phone by trying to overclock with the safety caps where they are in my builds.
I also happen to believe that there is a lot more to running a custom kernel than simply the ability to OC, so implying that one shouldn't run a custom kernel because of any potential to damage the phone from overclocking is silly.
Maybe I'm being overly paranoid on the topic of SBC. If that is the case, I can always reserve the right to admit that I was wrong on a topic. I've been wrong about something before, I'll be wrong about something again in the future; I'm human after all ;D.
All that said, the first thing to do if you want to adapt SBC over is most likely to see what power levels are used as caps in the charging code.
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I never said it couldn't be done. I said it would probably not end up in my builds.
I've made no contradiction to myself, I personally don't support it. I made it available in some evo builds by request with an -at your own risk, unsupported- approach.
There are established and definite risks with truly charging a lithium ion battery to full capacity. On the low end of the spectrum, you may simply be shortening some time off the full life of the battery. Whether or not you run into it is a crapshoot of course.
I believe the comment of mine you're going off of was from yesterday at a point in my day when I was already in somewhat of a foul mood from events happening in life, so I was probably a bit harsher than intended (and I've made an edit to try and clear up any possible confusion). ;D
That said, I believe you are more likely to damage the battery in the long term than you are to damage your phone by trying to overclock with the safety caps where they are in my builds.
I also happen to believe that there is a lot more to running a custom kernel than simply the ability to OC, so implying that one shouldn't run a custom kernel because of any potential to damage the phone from overclocking is silly.
Maybe I'm being overly paranoid on the topic of SBC. If that is the case, I can always reserve the right to admit that I was wrong on a topic. I've been wrong about something before, I'll be wrong about something again in the future; I'm human after all ;D.
All that said, the first thing to do if you want to adapt SBC over is most likely to see what power levels are used as caps in the charging code.
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Very good response and I respect both sides of the argument cause none of us really has definitive proof. I just came from an Evo and used SBC kernels for as long as they were out. I love them and miss having that "boost" on my Nexus 4G. Regarding the life of my battery, I figured that when that time came, I'd just buy a new battery.
Either way, thanks to the devs for their hard work.
Users that visit this site don't keep their phones long enough to see the battery degrade (my opinion). I used sbc since it was first released and I only experienced better battery life, nothing negative. I'll use your kernel with sbc or without, you do good work. Its your kernel.
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Very good response and I respect both sides of the argument cause none of us really has definitive proof. I just came from an Evo and used SBC kernels for as long as they were out. I love them and miss having that "boost" on my Nexus 4G. Regarding the life of my battery, I figured that when that time came, I'd just buy a new battery.
Either way, thanks to the devs for their hard work.
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I agree...My batt life on my evo sucked and I used sbc and it made it alot better...allthough on this 4g the stock kernel still blows away the evo in batt life period, i was just looking for that little extra ooomph
now for the person who said thats why the rest of the android users hate cdma. Im all for GSM but in arizona all gsm carriers suck. But I do envy the gsm technology it is power effiecent, slimmer, and generally better hardware.
I also searched for SBC in the forums...didnt see anything that really pertained, all though it was also midnight when I looked.
Thanks for your insight netarchy. I love your work, if I knew how to do It I would. I used to build roms for winmo devices...but for the life of me I cant wrap my head around this android dev ****.
I don't know what sbc is I guess I misread netarchy's post about it in the general section. My apologies.
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I never said it couldn't be done. I said it would probably not end up in my builds.
I've made no contradiction to myself, I personally don't support it. I made it available in some evo builds by request with an -at your own risk, unsupported- approach.
There are established and definite risks with truly charging a lithium ion battery to full capacity. On the low end of the spectrum, you may simply be shortening some time off the full life of the battery. Whether or not you run into it is a crapshoot of course.
I believe the comment of mine you're going off of was from yesterday at a point in my day when I was already in somewhat of a foul mood from events happening in life, so I was probably a bit harsher than intended (and I've made an edit to try and clear up any possible confusion). ;D
That said, I believe you are more likely to damage the battery in the long term than you are to damage your phone by trying to overclock with the safety caps where they are in my builds.
I also happen to believe that there is a lot more to running a custom kernel than simply the ability to OC, so implying that one shouldn't run a custom kernel because of any potential to damage the phone from overclocking is silly.
Maybe I'm being overly paranoid on the topic of SBC. If that is the case, I can always reserve the right to admit that I was wrong on a topic. I've been wrong about something before, I'll be wrong about something again in the future; I'm human after all ;D.
All that said, the first thing to do if you want to adapt SBC over is most likely to see what power levels are used as caps in the charging code.
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its cool dude. we all crappy days. i respect your work and your opinion and i/we don't take all you devs for granted. I know you guys do it bc you have a passion for it. Thanx for responding.
Guys, could u please include in our kernel deep-sleep and fast dormancy patches?
u know that its not so hard. sure, i can do it myself, but i dont want one else toolchains and kernel trees on my laptop lol. deep-sleep and dorm succesfully work on moto atrix now with 2.6* kernels
also please include stat timers in kernel configs in future?
Would you like fries with that?
Can the kernal make me sandwiches too? You know its not very hard to do just three slices of bread, toasted, Mayo, lettuce, tomato but only if its fresh, two slices of Turkey and two slices of cheese. And cut into triangles with little toothpicks holding them together.
And just to proove I'm not a jerk: please.
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Can the kernal make me sandwiches too? You know its not very hard to do just three slices of bread, toasted, Mayo, lettuce, tomato but only if its fresh, two slices of Turkey and two slices of cheese. And cut into triangles with little toothpicks holding them together.
And just to proove I'm not a jerk: please.
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some times better joise yeat sandwiches then speak
tmp_do said:
Guys, could u please include in our kernel deep-sleep and fast dormancy patches?
u know that its not so hard. sure, i can do it myself, but i dont want one else toolchains and kernel trees on my laptop lol. deep-sleep and dorm succesfully work on moto atrix now with 2.6* kernels
also please include stat timers in kernel configs in future?
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Dude its not that easy to build a kernel.....building a rom is easy but not a kernel....
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Dude its not that easy to build a kernel.....building a rom is easy but not a kernel....
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lol u kidding me? i managed kernels for moto a1200 htc hero acer liquid and ac100 and i want wat i ask.
merge some diffs from current kernel tree not so hard, u dont need developming from zero. all already done.
I'm just lazy for that
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Also, it's been proven Deep idle does not save ANY more battery than regular .
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prooflink please. i seen against results
Let me just say please be mature.. don't answer post if you feel offended and let it rott like spme others.. plz keep the community clean.
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tmp_do said:
Guys, could u please include in our kernel deep-sleep and fast dormancy patches?
u know that its not so hard. sure, i can do it myself, but i dont want one else toolchains and kernel trees on my laptop lol. deep-sleep and dorm succesfully work on moto atrix now with 2.6* kernels
also please include stat timers in kernel configs in future?
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You know what you should do?
.........cry about it.
I can get 8 days battery life just leaving my G2x sitting there. That's proof enough that deep sleep don't do sheeeit.
Oh come on people, those requests are completely valid. Though, OP, next time don't "of course I could do it myself".
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Oh come on people, those requests are completely valid. Though, OP, next time don't "of course I could do it myself".
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They're unnecessary and since no one had ever used those on a G2x kernel before, I'm assuming it would take time to figure it out. Time that would be wasted since the two things he is requesting don't help our phone at all. If he can do it himself, then he'll do it himself.
Well, those patches should increase the battery life which is pretty bad on our phone right now. My 1980mah battery did improve the situation a little, but it still doesnt come close to sony ericsson x10 or nexus s that i owned before.
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I haven't really had any battery life issues. I charge my phone at night, and then use it all day.
If I go crazy with games and tethering I might have to plug it in for a few minutes during the day, but battery life doesn't seem any worse than other phones.
Just so the OP doesn't think I'm dogging on him, there are kernel patches I've wanted before also. I'd like a kernel that supports netfilter patches so I could use a nicer wifi tether app:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/wiki/FAQ
But, if it can't or won't happen, I'm fine without it. If I could do it myself, I wouldn't post about being too lazy to do it.
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Well, those patches should increase the battery life which is pretty bad on our phone right now. My 1980mah battery did improve the situation a little, but it still doesnt come close to sony ericsson x10 or nexus s that i owned before.
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No, they won't. I can get over a week just leaving my phone there. Which should make it pretty clear that we don't need it.
tmp_do said:
Guys, could u please include in our kernel deep-sleep and fast dormancy patches?
u know that its not so hard. sure, i can do it myself, but i dont want one else toolchains and kernel trees on my laptop lol. deep-sleep and dorm succesfully work on moto atrix now with 2.6* kernels
also please include stat timers in kernel configs in future?
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ok, ill start by saying im only just now getting into how the Linux kernel works on ARM devices, so i might need a real dev to confirm some of this...
deep-sleep is just a name for a sleep state on some chipsets (i think Samsung mostly uses it) tegra2 has sleep states as well, infact we have a few (LP2 and LP3 just off the top of my head) and deep-sleep is not really needed on our devices (if its even possible to implement on this device)
tegra2 as a chip itself is perfectly capable of sleeping, and does so very well, NVidia even went so far as to make their own proprietary "governor" (if you can call it that) to control speed and voltages, as well as shut down a core when its not needed. so rest assured that when its not needed, our phone is already using as little power as it can.
with regards to fast-dormancy, seeing as the base-band/radio chip in our devices is already 'flaky' at best, do you really want you phone doing the equivalent of going into 'airplane mode' every time its done sending a message? plus, unless t-mobile can use an optimized version of it (which i don't think they do) its been shown to actually increase network usage, and decrease battery life due to constantly negotiating network connections and disconnections.
also, im going to assume by stat timers you mean 'time in state', in which case that is a HUGE undertaking including rebuilding major parts of the kernel if its even possible on tegra chipsets. plus, its really only useful to see if your phone is actually sleeping, which there are other ways to do this, although they are a bit tougher.
and finally, i don't know how you meant you question to come across, put please try to be more considerate with how you phrase things. these devs, for the most part, are doing this because they want to. nobody is paying them to work on our phones (aside from an occasional donation from time to time) and they do have jobs, lives, and families outside of these phones. and despite how easy you say it is, ive been studying the kernel in this phone for almost 2 months now, pouring over forums, datasheets, and many many many versions of kernels by morfic and faux123 and im only just beginning to understand the basic ways that things are done.
hope this clears some stuff up
Thank Klathmon, for the explanation.
I am still kinda confused though, OP said Deep Sleep has been implemented into an Atrix kernel which has the same tegra chip. Maybe you are right and they just refer to one of the low power states as deep sleep. Also I tried googling for deep sleep in atrix and nothing came up
Thanks for detailed response. I think i understand all the subtleties.
So mods, please delete thread
Well the thing is I don't know wich kernel to pair up with Hellfire Phoenix 2.1 so far it's what I have liked the most.
The stock kernel gives funky battery readings, I tried trinity ELP kernel but my phone doesn't last much as I'd like it to maybe I'm asking for too much from my g2x.
So what I would like to know is what kernel should I try for the best battery lifespan I am normally using 4g with pandora but while giving it this use and texting from time to time /checking facebook it doesn't last me through half a day I start using the phone from around 6-6:30 Am and by 1 pm my phone is at 20%. I give it breaks of around 1-3 hours in wich I disable data/ I also keep sync and wifi disabled.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated and +Thanks will be given to those that are helpful
PS.I have yet to try Eaglesblood 2.3.7 is it worth compared to hellfire ?
Using data on the phone like Pandora and Facebook for one hour will drop my battery about 15-20% on 4g so, 5 hours worth is about normal in my opinion if you plan on doing that all the time I suggest extra batteries or extended. You're simply asking too much IMO!
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Using data on the phone like Pandora and Facebook for one hour will drop my battery about 15-20% on 4g so, 5 hours worth is about normal in my opinion if you plan on doing that all the time I suggest extra batteries or extended. You're simply asking too much IMO!
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Thought so "( Either way With what Kernel could I get the best out of hellfire phoenix 2.1? Also I'm confused on some things like with the trinity ELP kernel it says it's 1.1ghz/UC does that mean it is undervolted while being overclocked by 100mhz (just making sure) also in CM settings I have the option of setting the cpu speed.. now if I set it lets sayy 750mhz is it also undervolting it?
I'm sure I don't need 1ghz for the use I give it most of the time I could just change it back when I
m in the mood for gaming or does this scale depending on the task?
Sorry for so many questions I'm still new to this and I want to be sure of everything
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Thought so "( Either way With what Kernel could I get the best out of hellfire phoenix 2.1? Also I'm confused on some things like with the trinity ELP kernel it says it's 1.1ghz/UC does that mean it is undervolted while being overclocked by 100mhz (just making sure) also in CM settings I have the option of setting the cpu speed.. now if I set it lets sayy 750mhz is it also undervolting it?
I'm sure I don't need 1ghz for the use I give it most of the time I could just change it back when I
m in the mood for gaming or does this scale depending on the task?
Sorry for so many questions I'm still new to this and I want to be sure of everything
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I'd say either the kernel you have now or Faux UV version... look up the thread that shows "how to undervolt" (or something close) and go that route if you truly want to get the best battery life (I don't undervolt as I get the battery I need for my daily activities.)
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I'd say either the kernel you have now or Faux UV version... look up the thread that shows "how to undervolt" (or something close) and go that route if you truly want to get the best battery life (I don't undervolt as I get the battery I need for my daily activities.)
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So Faux123 Kernels are the ones people use the most for what I've seen.
I'm not sure wich faux kernel I have It says 2.6.32.56 CM7 Faux123-049, I checked the thread and latest is 0.48 soo I'm a bit lost there
I've also seen some people say they prefer the trinity kernel because it was released later.
I've tried both the stock Faux that comes with hellfire and the trinity I do not see any difference whatsoever in battery life or stability ( trinity does score significantly higher on benchmarks)
I could careless about benchmarks haven't ran one since I got this phone and oc'ed it to 1.5 to see what would happen... other wise they are just options some of our phones can't handle certain kernels... play with them and see which you like more. My only advice is faux cm version lol ds causes the funky readings.
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faux 049b5 is for ICS roms, 048 is for GB roms. Don't mix them up or rom won't boot.
Doing anything on 4g will drain your battery much faster. If you can switch to 2g/3g networks while not using data, it can save a lot of battery power. Try Juicedefender ultimate also. It helps in toggling/switching options for you.
Every phone is different plus everyonez preferences/usage are unique. Best bet is to try both for a week or so and then decide for yourself.
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faux 049b5 is for ICS roms, 048 is for GB roms. Don't mix them up or rom won't boot.
Doing anything on 4g will drain your battery much faster. If you can switch to 2g/3g networks while not using data, it can save a lot of battery power. Try Juicedefender ultimate also. It helps in toggling/switching options for you.
Every phone is different plus everyonez preferences/usage are unique. Best bet is to try both for a week or so and then decide for yourself.
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I am not mixing anything Up that was the information given my kernel information in the about phone section what I wish to know wich faux kernel I actually have.
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I am not mixing anything Up that was the information given my kernel information in the about phone section what I wish to know wich faux kernel I actually have.
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If your running the stock kernel on hfp you have 049b1ds
Pin it to Win it.
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If your running the stock kernel on hfp you have 049b1ds
Pin it to Win it.
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Should be 48b 49 is only ICS I thought.
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Anyways I flashed the 1.1ghz/UV Faux it's working with no problems so far I'll stick with this unless it gives me any kind of problem. I will look forward on getting me one of those 3500mah batteries Price/performance they seem worth it though the phone would be fat haha but w.e I like using my data without worrying of low battery through the day.
This is unrelated but just throwing it out there. The Camera ICS+ works great I see an improvement in picture quality compared to the stock and the interface is lovely
Have you not been reading anything on any of these forum's?
I know your new to this ( as you stated) but you keep asking questions that can easily be answered by just searching and reading the forums,
i keep trying to help you by (doing the searching for you) but you just keep asking the same questions over and over,
you have like at least three different forums were you keep asking about kernal's ( and in several of them i have giving you links that should answer just about every thing you need to know about kernals) if you would actually just read them.
Im not trying to flame you... its just that you keep making new threads asking pretty much the same stuff, we can tell if someone is taking the easy way out and just saying that "they searched and didn't find any thing"
the people on here that would actually help you out, know better.
because they read the forums just about every day so we know how many forums that are out their, on subjects such as kernals, like the 3 threads you started asking about them.
so again read and most of your questions will be answerd...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073626
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389069
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558080
He's right only reason I answered and didn't reply in this manner, was cause you typed out so much and I felt bad for you lol... If you answer I don't have time to read and such, then you shouldn't even have time to root the device. Laziness is pretty frowned upon on XDA. The more you read the more you would find out that everyone has different experiences with kernels. Try them out and figure it out on your own... if you have thread already about a kernel or a specific rom to choose stick to that thread and don't make a new one, as it just causes clutter for people that do use the search function, as when they search for something like "which kernel" they get
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594216&highlight=which+kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1558080&highlight=which+kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586616&highlight=which+kernel
even more particular in the Hellfire 2.1 thread search "which kernel" and get this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=11147041
not so hard!
mt3g said:
if you have thread already about a kernel or a specific rom to choose stick to that thread and don't make a new one, as it just causes clutter for people that do use the search function
not so hard!
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He has this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594690
and this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1588657
and even this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1587055
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korny647 said:
you have like at least three different forums were you keep asking about kernal's...
...just about every thing you need to know about kernals...
...on subjects such as kernals...
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ugh please, before i kill myself... its kernel... not kernal *shivers*
its a HUGE pet peeve of mine...
mt3g said:
Should be 48b 49 is only ICS I thought.
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1654-g2x...oofeb-14/page__st__190__p__471877#entry471877
Faux has 049 for CM7 according to above link, which is baked into HFP 2.1.
Klathmon said:
ugh please, before i kill myself... its kernel... not kernal *shivers*
its a HUGE pet peeve of mine...
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zechizen said:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1654-g2x...oofeb-14/page__st__190__p__471877#entry471877
Faux has 049 for CM7 according to above link, which is baked into HFP 2.1.
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048 is cm and ds drivers but 049 is only availible in ds driver for GB
deathskater said:
Well the thing is I don't know wich kernel to pair up with Hellfire Phoenix 2.1 so far it's what I have liked the most.
The stock kernel gives funky battery readings, I tried trinity ELP kernel but my phone doesn't last much as I'd like it to maybe I'm asking for too much from my g2x.
So what I would like to know is what kernel should I try for the best battery lifespan I am normally using 4g with pandora but while giving it this use and texting from time to time /checking facebook it doesn't last me through half a day I start using the phone from around 6-6:30 Am and by 1 pm my phone is at 20%. I give it breaks of around 1-3 hours in wich I disable data/ I also keep sync and wifi disabled.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated and +Thanks will be given to those that are helpful
PS.I have yet to try Eaglesblood 2.3.7 is it worth compared to hellfire ?
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ELP voltages are probably too low for you, thus actually causing higher drain. Try the T15 and under volt until you find your sweet spot
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hi...I have bigxie apex ics rom on my nexus s and when i flash matr1x kernel 19.5cfs it starts to freeze. Works just fine with the stock kernel. Also when i was using the cm9 it worked fine with the stock but when i flashed matr1x kernel it started to freeze and reboot. Please help!
His kernel is undervolted by default. The phone might not be able to handle the voltages. I have no idea how to fix it though since you can't even get past the full boot. Better off going with something else.
had the same issue, just use another kernel or raise voltages. i've got no idea why everyone recommends matr1x, UV by default just doesn't make sense since every cpu behaves differently. it's like selling "one size fits all" t-shirts. i recommend simple kernel or trinity, they are the most stable ones on my phone apart from stock obviously.
Aktifit said:
had the same issue, just use another kernel or raise voltages. i've got no idea why everyone recommends matr1x, UV by default just doesn't make sense since every cpu behaves differently. it's like selling "one size fits all" t-shirts. i recommend simple kernel or trinity, they are the most stable ones on my phone apart from stock obviously.
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The most known product doesn't mean it's the more fitting for everyone. It just means it's popular. *shrugs*
I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the people using it don't even know it's undervolted, sadly.
thankyou for the replies...i will try the trinity kernel
You all argue about matrix yeah its undervolted so?? You need to raise your voltage to to make it stable because not all phones can handle undervolted values. It's been address millions times and you all still argue.? Goddamit!! (Bunch of noobs) try to solve the problem first before suggesting another kernel. It so irritating you all. I'm sure matrix dev despise you all because of your.ignorance.
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I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the people using it don't even know it's undervolted, sadly.
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I am guessing most people do know that it is undervolted. If they don't, I wouldn't understand why. He plainly states that if you have freezing issues to raise your voltages right in the FAQ. I have been running the Matr1x since gb and have never had issues with the undervoting. Perhaps your phone can't take it.
If people aren't smart enough to read what the developer has to say, why would he set it to the higher voltages and expect users to move the voltages down themselves. You imply the common user is not smart enough to do it themselves. So what does that leave the developer to do? He can make it like he thinks it should be or make it for the idiots that can't or won't read the op comments.
People need to understand kernels run differently on every phone. So instead of whining they should just move on.
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did u wipe dalvik cache...
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I am guessing most people do know that it is undervolted. If they don't, I wouldn't understand why. He plainly states that if you have freezing issues to raise your voltages right in the FAQ. I have been running the Matr1x since gb and have never had issues with the undervoting. Perhaps your phone can't take it.
If people aren't smart enough to read what the developer has to say, why would he set it to the higher voltages and expect users to move the voltages down themselves. You imply the common user is not smart enough to do it themselves. So what does that leave the developer to do? He can make it like he thinks it should be or make it for the idiots that can't or won't read the op comments.
People need to understand kernels run differently on every phone. So instead of whining they should just move on.
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Or that the common user is prone to not reading and just going ahead and flashing.
Seriously, coffees have "CAUTION: HOT!" written on them. I pretty much lost faith in "common users" a long time ago.
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I am guessing most people do know that it is undervolted. If they don't, I wouldn't understand why. He plainly states that if you have freezing issues to raise your voltages right in the FAQ!
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Exactly! Read everything first. Educate your self before attempting anything. Just because you can flash doesn't mean you should without understanding anything about what it does or will do to your phone. FAQ is there for you to become familiar with what issues have happened and might happen to you. Yes the Matrix thread is long but I read a lot of it to understand what it was, issues and what others are saying. Just like any ROM, Kernel or mod you plan on trying, read the thread first. :thumbup:
Hope I don't sound like I'm complaining but most threads are started or answered wrong because of this. Good luck :thumbup:
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This is what I was getting at and it somehow got interpreted wrong. It wasn't a dig at mathkid and any of the regular users on here. There are a lot of new users on here and many flash stuff excitedly and don't fully read stuff. I've been there before. Its still a common mistake.
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