[Q] Trying to root 2.3.3 but cant find a simple tutorial. - T-Mobile LG G2x

I looked in android developement (rooting, FAQ,..etc) thread and was sure I was on the right track until it said that "easy root for linyx and mac" and "super 1 Click" would not work for 2.3.3. Now I am confused as to where to start. I read that you should download Clockwork mod and it said download a gingerbread rom, but I am confused because I thought the version 2.3.3 that I have is in fact gingerbread. Isn't there an easy tutorial for 2.3.3 users? Right now my phone is just unlocked and that's it. Can someone point me in the right direction? I don't know what all the rooting terms mean so please be clear. Thanks

TheKid1 said:
I looked in android developement (rooting, FAQ,..etc) thread and was sure I was on the right track until it said that "easy root for linyx and mac" and "super 1 Click" would not work for 2.3.3. Now I am confused as to where to start. I read that you should download Clockwork mod and it said download a gingerbread rom, but I am confused because I thought the version 2.3.3 that I have is in fact gingerbread. Isn't there an easy tutorial for 2.3.3 users? Right now my phone is just unlocked and that's it. Can someone point me in the right direction? I don't know what all the rooting terms mean so please be clear. Thanks
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Go here first>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060715
Then go here>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
Read the Development Forum and decide which rom you want to use.>>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1117

GTWalling said:
Go here first>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060715
Then go here>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
Read the Development Forum and decide which rom you want to use.>>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1117
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Ok, I appreciate the response however, I have questions:
1) I don't get it....the second link you posted says you don't need to use Rom Manager but also suggests you go read the first link you posted which says you need to use Rom Manager. These directions are all over the place.
2) Will all of this rooting be taking place on my PC...I have windows XP
3) It says install Rom Manager to your O/S. What is an O/S and what is Rom Manager.
It would be nice if all of these links and directions were on one page and didn't bring you to more links that bring you to more links that bring you to more directions that bring you to more links.

TheKid1 said:
Ok, I appreciate the response however, I have questions:
1) I don't get it....the second link you posted says you don't need to use Rom Manager but also suggests you go read the first link you posted which says you need to use Rom Manager. These directions are all over the place.
2) Will all of this rooting be taking place on my PC...I have windows XP
3) It says install Rom Manager to your O/S. What is an O/S and what is Rom Manager.
It would be nice if all of these links and directions were on one page and didn't bring you to more links that bring you to more links that bring you to more directions that bring you to more links.
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1) No it doesn't, dont use ROM manager at all. What I think you're confusing it with is Clockwork Recovery, thats what's being flashed from your computer so you can change into better roms.
2) Yes, you use the one click root and you'll see your phone running code and then it'll be done, and you use Clockwork Recovery to flash roms.
3) Wrong for both, and look up what an OS is, some questions are so simple that you should use Google instead. Its an Operating System, and if you dont know what that is, Google is your friend.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.

theking_13 said:
1) No it doesn't, dont use ROM manager at all. What I think you're confusing it with is Clockwork Recovery, thats what's being flashed from your computer so you can change into better roms.
2) Yes, you use the one click root and you'll see your phone running code and then it'll be done, and you use Clockwork Recovery to flash roms.
3) Wrong for both, and look up what an OS is, some questions are so simple that you should use Google instead. Its an Operating System, and if you dont know what that is, Google is your friend.
Sent from my amazing G2x running EaglesBlood and Faux.
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Before i attempt this let me just say that i found a gingerbreak youtube video which is called(gingerbreak one click ROOT ANY Gingerbread 2.3.3 Android device) that seems a lot simpler. You simply download an app and it does the rest for you. Have you heard of this? Id like to do it this way so i dont screw anything up but will i be getting the same benefits?

TheKid1 said:
Before i attempt this let me just say that i found a gingerbreak youtube video which is called(gingerbreak one click ROOT ANY Gingerbread 2.3.3 Android device) that seems a lot simpler. You simply download an app and it does the rest for you. Have you heard of this? Id like to do it this way so i dont screw anything up but will i be getting the same benefits?
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If what we posted is to complicated then rooting is not for you. Just Saying.

agreed, gingerbreak might do the trick but regardless if you do not use the method "King" posted then you are gonna regret it all, and be very frustrated and freak out and make crazy posts! You need to flash ClockWork Recovery in order to switch roms everything else is not proper and only a temporary work around! here is a step by step video just watch it all the way through put the files in a place that easy for you to figure out and then do the process. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUT5JcnJHgk

Ok so let me get this straight. Im gonna do what youve suggested.
1)So im basically downloading two things to my computer : (1 click root) and after that, (clockwork mod)? Is that what you giys are saying?
2)will windows xp work to do this?

yes I still use Windows XP.

GTWalling said:
Go here first>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060715
Then go here>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
Read the Development Forum and decide which rom you want to use.>>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1117
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ok I've downloaded the file and extracted the the APX and NVFlash folders. I see both folders chilling there. At this point I'm confused because the directions from that second link you gave me says to "install the APX windows driver from the APX folder. Again I have the APX folder and the NVFlash folders in plain siight and when I click on the APX folder, none of the files in there start doing anything....what am I looking for in the APX folder? I see a setup file labeled "NVIDIA" but when I right click it and click install, nothing happens.

Trust me, follow the instructions to flash ClockworkMod Recovery, etc... and you won't ever look back. An hour or two or careful research and following directions will lead to a (phone's) lifetime of enjoyment

the files aren't gonna magically open them selves and start doing everything for you lol, read the directions, or watch the video I linked...

rtotheichie said:
Trust me, follow the instructions to flash ClockworkMod Recovery, etc... and you won't ever look back. An hour or two or careful research and following directions will lead to a (phone's) lifetime of enjoyment
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I appreciate all the help, but I am following the directions in order from the second link that you've posted. It says to install the apx driver first. So are you telling me to skip all the APX stuff and go right to CWM Recovery? Remember, I have XP and these directions are for others I think.
mt3g said:
the files aren't gonna magically open them selves and start doing everything for you lol, read the directions, or watch the video I linked...
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I've done both. I am stuck on the part of the directions where I've mentioned. Can you help or not?

From one of the links already posted.
(Windows x86 and x64 O/S Drivers):
****If you are running VmWare kill it.****
1 Remove the battery.
2 Plug in your USB cable to your PC.
3 Hold Volume Up and Volume Down at the same time keeping them held down.
4 Plug in the USB cable to your phone. (Keep the buttons held until Windows detects a new APX device.)
5 Open Device Manager in Windows and you should see "APX Device" listed with an error icon.
6 Right click on the APX device.
7 Select 'Update driver software'.
8 Select 'Browse my computer...'.
9 Select 'Let me pick...'.
10 Select 'Have disk'.
11 Browse to directory you extracted the *driver* software to: One-Click-G2x-recovery-flasher-09-23\APX.
12 Accept any warnings, including the big red alert (you may need to disable UAC).
13 Now in Device Manager under 'USB Controllers' you should have an 'NVIDIA USB Boot-recovery driver for mobile devices'.
14 If not, uninstall the driver, reboot, rinse and repeat.

GTWalling said:
From one of the links already posted.
(Windows x86 and x64 O/S Drivers):
****If you are running VmWare kill it.****
1 Remove the battery.
2 Plug in your USB cable to your PC.
3 Hold Volume Up and Volume Down at the same time keeping them held down.
4 Plug in the USB cable to your phone. (Keep the buttons held until Windows detects a new APX device.)
5 Open Device Manager in Windows and you should see "APX Device" listed with an error icon.
6 Right click on the APX device.
7 Select 'Update driver software'.
8 Select 'Browse my computer...'.
9 Select 'Let me pick...'.
10 Select 'Have disk'.
11 Browse to directory you extracted the *driver* software to: One-Click-G2x-recovery-flasher-09-23\APX.
12 Accept any warnings, including the big red alert (you may need to disable UAC).
13 Now in Device Manager under 'USB Controllers' you should have an 'NVIDIA USB Boot-recovery driver for mobile devices'.
14 If not, uninstall the driver, reboot, rinse and repeat.
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Yes thank you. This is where I'm stuck because right above all these directions it say, "Install APX driver from APX folder" not sure how to do this before I begin all these directions. How do I open device manager on Windows XP on step 5?

Ok I'm done with those directions now. Thank you. Now I'm stuck on ClockModRecovery.
Flash ClockworkMod Recovery
1.Remove the battery.
2.Goto NvFlash directory and Double Click "OneClickRecoveryFlasher.exe".
3.Make sure the USB cable is unplugged from your phone.
4.Hold Volume Up and Volume Down at the same time keeping them held down. (Keep them held until you see the "S/W Upgrade" screen on your phone after you complete step7!).
5.Plug in the USB cable to your phone.
6.Click the "Flash CWM" button of your choosing. If you own a External SD card I suggest to choose version 5.0.2.0. This gives you Internal and External SD Support for ROM flashing but has External SD Nandroid Backup Support Only! If you do not own a External SD Card choose version 4.0.1.5 what has full Internal SD support for flashing ROMS and Nandroid backup.
7.You should see it send a bunch of files to the device and the phone screen should say "S/W Upgrade - Please wait while upgrading...". Once the files are sent and the program is finished running in the command window, you can just pull the USB cord while it still says "S/W Upgrade - Please wait while upgrading...".
8.Put the battery back in and you can now boot into Recovery. (see below..)
I'm stuck on number 2. I'm looking at the 2 folders again: "APX" and "NVFlash". I clicked into NVFLASH and clicked "OneClickRecoveryFlasher.exe". It says, "the application failed to initialize properly". Click OK to terminate the application".

TheKid1 said:
I'm stuck on number 2. I'm looking at the 2 folders again: "APX" and "NVFlash". I clicked into NVFLASH and clicked "OneClickRecoveryFlasher.exe". It says, "the application failed to initialize properly". Click OK to terminate the application".
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Make sure you've disabled antivirus because some of them will interfere. If it still won't work, try downloading it again and reinstalling...it might be a bad install
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium

Ok. it was the .netframework. I had SPK3 and assumed it was up to date. Thanks guys

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[HOW-TO] ADB for Dummies(How-To Learner's Guide)

Hi,
My name is Joe aka AndroidSamurai.. I will be releasing more guides and media content in the weeks to come.
I'm currently very busy with "life events(new baby)" and apologize for my absence.
I will be updating this post since it was my original with a new guide updated to new SDK and Android methods.
Thanks again,
AndroidSamurai
Android4D Inc
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Well done.
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What do i do if the new hardware device notification doesnt pop-up ? NM i got it. Thanks for the writeup
@King_tee: Assuming windows, you follow the following steps.
1. Start > Control Panel > System.
2. Hardware > Device Manager
3. Click on the last icon below the File menu. It should correspond to "Scan for Hardware Changes."
If that doesn't work, try unplugging / replugging USB cable, different USB cable, restarting phone, restarting computer, etc.
If you never see the notification, navigate to the Device Manager(inside "System" in the control panel in XP and inside Device Manager on Vista).
You will see ADB Android Device at the top of the list with a Yellow Icon beside it meaning the device is not working. Right-click on the device and select "Update Driver".
Follow the dialogs that pop-up and navigate to where the unzipped drivers are at...
You should be good to go from there...
ok, i need some help please... I downloaded the SDK and followed the instruction in this thread, but when i try to update my driver for the phone, it says the driver is not compatible with my phone.. I am using Haykuro's ROM 4.5 with FW 1.5.. would that be the reason for this issue?
devildogg2001 said:
ok, i need some help please... I downloaded the SDK and followed the instruction in this thread, but when i try to update my driver for the phone, it says the driver is not compatible with my phone.. I am using Haykuro's ROM 4.5 with FW 1.5.. would that be the reason for this issue?
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you may need to uninstall the current driver for your phone if you have mounted it before downloading the SDK. if you don't have the SDK setup the first time you plug the phone in then your computer will auto-update the driver to a regular UMS driver and it won't help you when you try adb. i forget how to uninstall your current driver since i don't use windows, but i'm sure you can find a nice crash course online
tubaking182 said:
you may need to uninstall the current driver for your phone if you have mounted it before downloading the SDK. if you don't have the SDK setup the first time you plug the phone in then your computer will auto-update the driver to a regular UMS driver and it won't help you when you try adb. i forget how to uninstall your current driver since i don't use windows, but i'm sure you can find a nice crash course online
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I dont know if thats the problem because when i plug it in, it doesnt show up as a notification, and when i go to the device manager it shows the little yellow triangle.. I'll look again. Thanks for the quick reply though. I am no expert in linux, but i have it installed, let me see if i can figure it out there..
tubaking182 said:
you may need to uninstall the current driver for your phone if you have mounted it before downloading the SDK. if you don't have the SDK setup the first time you plug the phone in then your computer will auto-update the driver to a regular UMS driver and it won't help you when you try adb. i forget how to uninstall your current driver since i don't use windows, but i'm sure you can find a nice crash course online
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ok, so i am in linux now, and i just noticed this guide was for windows.. lol can you or someone tell me how to install the SDK on linux?
devildogg2001 said:
ok, so i am in linux now, and i just noticed this guide was for windows.. lol can you or someone tell me how to install the SDK on linux?
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Downloading
http://developer.android.com/sdk/1.1_r1/index.html
Installing
http://developer.android.com/sdk/1.1_r1/installing.html
Found through Google...imagine that.
as well as what xyrcncp said can you you can download it and just mv ~/Desktop/sdk/tools/adb /usr/bin/adb abd you should be able to run the adb commands from any directory. not too hard to cd to the correct directory but i personally don't like to type cd ~/Phone/tools/android-sdk/tools every time cause i tend to make typographical errors. let me know how it worked but you shouldn't have any problems at all
umm no offense but your writing a tutorial for people that are not sure on how to do this, so you must assume that they do not know how to run an executable file...... write yourself a better tutorial without actually bashing the self esteem of some people... tutorials are positive not negative. I already know all of this but still... dont degrade someone due to the fact they dont know how, thats the whole point of writing your tutorial. Nothing should have been left out (including how to run a .exe .com or .bat
" (If you do not know how to install a windows executable file, please kill yourself now! ) "
this isnt honestly written with any hatred towards you, it was a good tutorial. Just might want to think about how you write it next time.
The "bashing" comments in my tutorial are directed towards the people with a true sense of humor. My tutorial was written to tell you how to simply complete a task and not to make you feel better about yourself. I do not get pleasure in abusing people's self esteem nor do I enjoy putting people down.
Just because you got a little sand in your crack does not mean you need to come in a very honest and informative thread and start bashing the people who are bending over backwards to help everyone out.
The reason I created this "tutorial" in the first place was because all the other threads are full of "start searching and stop asking so many damn questions" comments.
So start looking in the mirror when you wake up in the morning and stop saying "My, I think I will run over to good ole' XDA and be an @$$ to everyone today".
I am sincerely sorry that a little sense of humor has caused so much hatred in my thread. Please contact the forum moderators and see if the think my tutorial is so hateful.
lol i dont see any hatred but anyway when i download the adb driver when extracting it says unknown method
@ Nabzilla1990
Are you using Windows or Linux?
Are you using the built-in Zip tool or 7-zip from the links I provided?
Are you using a 32 or 64-bit OS?
using the same operating system as you 64bit vista ultimate sp1 and using winrar to extract
Try using 7-zip man, I have been using it for 3 yrs now.
Basically what I am saying is that everything in my guide is guaranteed to work.
Just to add, if you take adb.exe and adbwinapi.dll and copy or move them to the \windows\system32 directory you can run adb from any dos directory prompt.
it worked with 7-zip thank you and also want to add if it doesnt work for some people plug in ur phone and update the usb mass storage with the usb driver from here and it should work i had that problem earlier
Okay, so I did everything and got up to run cmd, when I type in the cd C:\android-sdk-windows-1.1_r1\tools it says not a specififed folder, but when I type it without the \tools it doesnt work. can anyone help?

Froyo Root Instructions using Superoneclick And Unrooting

ROOTING:
Since z4root, one of the easiest ways to root, is not working on Froyo in Galaxy 3, I decided to make this separate thread for instructions on how to root Froyo using Superoneclick.
First and foremost: Enable USB Debugging by going to Settings>Applications>Development. Make sure it is ticked.
Download the attached Superoneclickv1.5.zip file. Extract its contents. Make sure your phone drivers are installed on the computer (Samsung Kies). Then follow the steps:
1. From the extracted contents, run the file named Superoneclick.
2. Turn off your phone, then connect it to the computer using the USB Cable. Don't turn on the phone. Keep it off but connected to the computer.
3. In Superoneclick, click on the 'Root' button. After a few seconds, it'll say 'Waiting for device'.
4. Now turn on your phone (while it is still connected to the computer). Superoneclick will detect the phone.
5. Now the phone will be rooted, while it is starting up. When it is started, it'll be rooted.
6. After rooting, download and install busybox on your phone. It should take care of any slowing down of your phone after rooting.
That's it. The phone is now rooted, although it would be so much better if z4root worked on Froyo..
For those getting stuck at the 'pushing raceagainstthecage' step, try this method. Credits go to haree:
1. login as admin and then open the application. Or right click on Superoneclick.exe and click on 'Run as administrator'.
2. turn off ur Virus protection
3. remove all the additional external USB devices(this seems to confuse the SW)
i removed all the above mentioned
and then follow the instructions u will be successful
it worked for me now i have 2.2 and rooted
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UNROOTING INSTRUCTIONS:
Unfortunately, the method to unroot by clicking on the Unroot button in Superoneclick does not work. So follow the following steps to unroot.
1. Download rootexplorer.apk (attached) and install Root Explorer on phone.
2. Run Root Explorer. A 'Superuser Request' prompt will come up. Press Allow.
3. Now, on the top, there will be a button saying 'Mount R/W'. Press it. It should change to 'Mount R/O'. The button should say 'Mount R/O' in order for you to be able to do anything in the following steps.
4. Now scroll to the bottom, click on system. Then click on bin.
5. In the bin folder, look for a file named 'su'. Long press on this file, and select Delete to delete it.
6. Now go back to the system folder by pressing the Back button once.
7. Now enter the app folder. Scroll down and look for the file named 'superuser.apk'. Long press on this file and delete it.
8. Exit Root Explorer after this. Uninstall it if you don't want to use it.
9. That's it. Your phone will be un-rooted.
Another method to unroot:
1. Download and install Terminal Emulator (attached).
2. Run Terminal Emulator on the phone. If you don't see a keyboard to type, press Menu and press Toggle Soft Keyboard.
3. Type su and press enter. Press Allow on the 'Superuser Request' prompt. The $ sign will change to a #.
4. Now type the following line exactly as it is and press enter: mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
5. Nothing will happen visually. The pointer will shift to a new line.
6. Now type the following line and press enter: rm /system/bin/su
7. Again, type following line and press enter: rm /system/app/superuser.apk.
8. Now exit Terminal Emulator. Your phone is un-rooted.
Hehe, first i thought it makes no sense to write a howto on this since its described in the SOC thread anyway, but man the idea to do it during boot is ubercool, didn't think of that...
FadeFx said:
Hehe, first i thought it makes no sense to write a howto on this since its described in the SOC thread anyway, but man the idea to do it during boot is ubercool, didn't think of that...
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I know it's explained in the SOC thread, but many people keep asking on the "Samsung Galaxy 3 GT-i5800: root, gps fix, upgrading" thread about rooting Froyo, so I thought it's better to have one SOC thread right in the Galaxy 3's Development Section. It'll save everyone reading through a lot of pages on that thread..
addicted2088 said:
I know it's explained in the SOC thread, but many people keep asking on the "Samsung Galaxy 3 GT-i5800: root, gps fix, upgrading" thread about rooting Froyo, so I thought it's better to have one SOC thread right in the Galaxy 3's Development Section. It'll save everyone reading through a lot of pages on that thread..
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hi
when i see a few reports that this is working for our G3 ill add this link to the roll up thread very nice of you to give this info to all keep up the good work
one question will this also un root the phone
haree said:
hi
when i see a few reports that this is working for our G3 ill add this link to the roll up thread very nice of you to give this info to all keep up the good work
one question will this also un root the phone
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Can't unroot using the same procedure, but have added another procedure to do it.
This method does work for everyone. The only new step in my procedure is to do it while the phone is booting.
help! !
cant root. stuck at "waiting for device"..... tried everything.. no luck. can anyone help?
coolzarjun said:
cant root. stuck at "waiting for device"..... tried everything.. no luck. can anyone help?
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Are your phone drivers properly installed? Does your computer make a 'Hardware connected' ding sound when you turn on the phone? If not, then you'll have to install Samsung Kies and then connect the phone to the computer to install the drivers. Try rooting after that.
all drivers are installed.. i reinstalled twice.. when i connect in usb debugg.. says installing some adb stuff after fews secs.. comp says hardware might not work properly not properly installed. all other drivers wrk fine.. wat can i do to install adb drivers properly. . i have windows xp
coolzarjun said:
all drivers are installed.. i reinstalled twice.. when i connect in usb debugg.. says installing some adb stuff after fews secs.. comp says hardware might not work properly not properly installed. all other drivers wrk fine.. wat can i do to install adb drivers properly. . i have windows xp
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Connect your phone to your computer. Then open the Device Manager. Then look for the entry 'SAMSUNG Android Composite ADB Interface' in the list. It might be under the ADB Interface tab. Right click on the 'SAMSUNG Android Composite ADB Interface' and uninstall it.
Then reconnect your phone to the computer and see if the ADB drivers get installed properly this time.
did that also....uninstalled and connected the phone. still the same error..
hardware not properly installed.. it might not work properly
i got windows xp 32-bit
can u help ?? plz !
coolzarjun said:
did that also....uninstalled and connected the phone. still the same error..
hardware not properly installed.. it might not work properly
i got windows xp 32-bit
can u help ?? plz !
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Sorry, I'm using Windows 7, so I've no idea what to do about the drivers in Windows XP. Try updating Kies..
i also have win 7 and it doesnt work...help??
reist said:
i also have win 7 and it doesnt work...help??
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I can't help if the drivers on your computer are not installed properly. After connecting the phone while it is ON, open the Device Manager and see if the ADB driver is properly installed.
If the drivers are properly installed, this method will work..
Edit: As mentioned by mhndk14 below, enable USB Debugging in Settings>Applications>Development.
I also had the same problem with windows 7. Just make sure that the USB Debugging is enabled and then try again. It worked for me.
how to bring the phone back to factory settings
hi how can i get back my phone to the original factory settings? i rooted using z4mod and when unrooted the live wallpapers wont go... and how do i get my boot menu when restarted on my 1 5801??
nageshkaja said:
hi how can i get back my phone to the original factory settings? i rooted using z4mod and when unrooted the live wallpapers wont go... and how do i get my boot menu when restarted on my 1 5801??
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To remove the Live Wallpapers, you'll have to root your phone, and then use Root Explorer to remove the files Livewallpaperspicker.apk from system/app, and libRS.so and librs_jni.so from system/bin. Then un-root your phone. Be sure to press the 'Mount R/W' button in Root Explorer to be able to delete the files.
As for restoring your boot menu, that procedure is there somewhere in the Development section. The boot menu changes because of upgrading, not rooting.
It seems i have lost haptic feedback after rooting(jpb), anybody else experience this?
Edit: lol
It was probably sue to the "forced" reboot, but I accidently dropped my phone (batteries feel out) and now it's working
stubborn_d0nkey said:
It seems i have lost haptic feedback after rooting(jpb), anybody else experience this?
Edit: lol
It was probably sue to the "forced" reboot, but I accidently dropped my phone (batteries feel out) and now it's working
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Yeah, haptic feedback stops working sometimes on JPA and JPB after rooting. But restarting the phone corrects it. (Although your method of restarting the phone was too brutal!! )
Thanks addicted2088...worked perfectly...
successfully rooted..........
now i need to know how to install live wallpapers......
thanks

[Q] questions about root

I've been reading here at XDA, I can find the instructions - no problem.
However, in the WIKI there are a few things I don't understand.
The problem also is that all the posts assume you know what's going on and they start in the middle of a thread.
Then there's advice to use Odin, not to use Odin, use this, don't use this.
Some say unmount the SD card, some make no mention of SD card.
Then there's different backups. I've seen Titanium mentioned.
There's advice to get the latest drivers from Samsung - The phone isn't even in the dropdown list of phones, and the letters for the model don't match.
There's the custom ROM advice. Since there aren't many for this phone as yet - and all you want to do is remove crap, what do you look for?
I have to get rid of that stupid Doubletwist and airsync before I toss the phone!
Z
It is rather confusing isn't it...
In a simple answer....
Find the SuperOneClick zip file in one of those threads in the Dev forum & root the phone.Then go get TitaniumBackup ( Pro Recommended ) & you can remove the bloatware. I'd recommend the Pro Version so you can freez the apps you don't delete.
That's what i did on my SGS4G ( and i am not a experianced modder myself )
One problem. I downloaded superoneclick and NET can't find the runtime file.
I'm using XP and ver 4 of NET. I turned off NOD32 and Online Armor.
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zuben el genubi said:
One problem. I downloaded superoneclick and NET can't find the runtime file.
I'm using XP and ver 4 of NET. I turned off NOD32 and Online Armor.
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Uninstalled NET 4 and put in 3. I can open the file, but NOD32 keeps quarantining RAGE. Says it's a trojan.
I don't really want a custom ROM - but would like some more information on Titanium Backup. The Market won't download to the phone, but going to the market on the phone will let me download.
Thanks,
Zuben
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zuben el genubi said:
Uninstalled NET 4 and put in 3. I can open the file, but NOD32 keeps quarantining RAGE. Says it's a trojan.
I don't really want a custom ROM - but would like some more information on Titanium Backup. The Market won't download to the phone, but going to the market on the phone will let me download.
Thanks,
Zuben
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Let it scrub the RAGE file, you need the other one actually to make it work
Which one? PSneuter?
Also some confusion about the Samsung driver. I also have a Galaxy 3. I downloaded Kies and the driver. I downloaded the new driver (did not install it)and stuck it in a folder named Samsung on the Desktop. Kies is in the Samsung folder in programs and I assume that the original driver is in there, too. The driver is listed in Add/Remove programs.
I can either delete Kies or rename that file to something else, and stop Kies from running. So there's 2 drivers, and I suspect they are the same.
Since I can't send a download from the Market on the PC to the phone, I have to download from Market on the phone. I can't install Titanium unless I root, but can I get to Titanium from the phone if I do root?
Thanks
Z
I use linux... so i have no idea what Kies is or does..
zuben el genubi said:
Which one? PSneuter?
Also some confusion about the Samsung driver. I also have a Galaxy 3. I downloaded Kies and the driver. I downloaded the new driver (did not install it)and stuck it in a folder named Samsung on the Desktop. Kies is in the Samsung folder in programs and I assume that the original driver is in there, too. The driver is listed in Add/Remove programs.
I can either delete Kies or rename that file to something else, and stop Kies from running. So there's 2 drivers, and I suspect they are the same.
Since I can't send a download from the Market on the PC to the phone, I have to download from Market on the phone. I can't install Titanium unless I root, but can I get to Titanium from the phone if I do root?
Thanks
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So which phone are you trying to Root? Samsung Galaxy 3 or Samsung Galaxy S 4G? If your rooting the S 4G you can find the drivers here http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...728034640796/SGH-t959_Vibrant_USB_Drivers.zip
I have no experience with rooting with XP but I assume it would be essentially the same steps.
If your looking to do stuff on your Galaxy 3 then please go to this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=868
and do your research over there.
It’s not that difficult to root the SGS 4G Phone. The first thing you need to do is make sure your phone is communicating with your computer. Install the Samsung USB drivers.(make sure you have the right drivers for your O.S. either 32bit or 64bit) In your phone go into Settings/Applications/Development and make sure you check “USB debugging”. Connect your Tethering cable to your phone. On your home screen you should see “USB Connected” popup on top of your screen. You should be able to press USB connected button from the drop-down menu on the home screen and see the external SD card on the computer now. If that works then Turn off USB storage. (leave “USB debugging” checked) Open NOD32 application from your system tray. Go to Settings and select “Temporarily disable antivirus,” put your password in if prompted. Then Download SuperOneClickv1.7-ShortFuse, expand the file and go to SuperOneClickv1.7-ShortFuse Directory. Run the SuperOneClick App. When it opens don’t change anything and just click “Root” and let it run. It should say rooted when done. Then go to the Market on your phone and get Titanium Backup and install it. It will ask for SuperUser permission and accept that on your phone. If that fails press “Problems” button, Then “Get Busybox”. Install the new Busybox. You may have to close and reopen Titanium Backup again. I would say to download and install ClockworkMod after rooting and before getting Titanium Backup, Except ClockworkMod currently does not work for the SGS 4G Yet. So, skip that step for now. You should be able to backup your phone after this.
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It’s not that difficult to root the SGS 4G Phone. The first thing you need to do is make sure your phone is communicating with your computer. Install the Samsung USB drivers.(make sure you have the right drivers for your O.S. either 32bit or 64bit) In your phone go into Settings/Applications/Development and make sure you check “USB debugging”. Connect your Tethering cable to your phone. On your home screen you should see “USB Connected” popup on top of your screen. You should be able to press USB connected button from the drop-down menu on the home screen and see the external SD card on the computer now. If that works then Turn off USB storage. (leave “USB debugging” checked) Open NOD32 application from your system tray. Go to Settings and select “Temporarily disable antivirus,” put your password in if prompted. Then Download SuperOneClickv1.7-ShortFuse, expand the file and go to SuperOneClickv1.7-ShortFuse Directory. Run the SuperOneClick App. When it opens don’t change anything and just click “Root” and let it run. It should say rooted when done. Then go to the Market on your phone and get Titanium Backup and install it. It will ask for SuperUser permission and accept that on your phone. If that fails press “Problems” button, Then “Get Busybox”. Install the new Busybox. You may have to close and reopen Titanium Backup again. I would say to download and install ClockworkMod after rooting and before getting Titanium Backup, Except ClockworkMod currently does not work for the SGS 4G Yet. So, skip that step for now. You should be able to backup your phone after this.
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This is good information, but what about for Mac users? I was previously able to root my Samsung Vibrant just by installing the update.zip file via CWM. Should Mac users wait for this course or can we make it happen now?
Also, what's the benefit of rooting right now? Just to remove bloatware? There's no custom roms yet, right?
Look at the Unix instructions about associating the USB ID with the Mac. I haven't tried it, but I suspect that is the missing step.
Update: Nope -- According to Google, http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/device.html#setting-up
Setup your system to detect your device.
* If you're developing on Windows, you need to install a USB driver for adb. If you're using an Android Developer Phone (ADP), Nexus One, or Nexus S, see the Google Windows USB Driver. Otherwise, you can find a link to the appropriate OEM driver in the OEM USB Drivers document.
* If you're developing on Mac OS X, it just works. Skip this step.
* If you're developing on Ubuntu Linux, you need to add a rules file... ​
(Emphasis mine)
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I'm wanting to root the 4G. The Galaxy3 was bought unlocked so it doesn't have the crap on it. Like I said, the ROM seems to be ok, it's just the stupid bloatware.
Chamgea said:
This is good information, but what about for Mac users? I was previously able to root my Samsung Vibrant just by installing the update.zip file via CWM. Should Mac users wait for this course or can we make it happen now?
Also, what's the benefit of rooting right now? Just to remove bloatware? There's no custom roms yet, right?
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Macs are out of my Knowledge base. I've taught PC repair at LAUSD in Ca, but haven't studied the Mac thing. It's something I want to learn, just have not got around to it yet.

Alternative Rooting Process ;) in-case superclick fails

Alright guys i was having Trouble rooting and i couldnt find a way or anything but with this it was easy 1 2 3 process i was able to root and everything... finally but i thought i would share for anyone who is having trouble with the superclick or any other process but heres how i did it.
REQUIREMENTS
1. Download zimage-root.tar to computer.
2. Download zimage.tar to computer.
3. Download ODIN to computer and unzip it.
4. You should have a working USB connection between computer and phone. If not, install Samsung USB drivers:
Download Samsung Drivers for 32-Bit Windows
Download Samsung Drivers for 64-Bit Windows
INSTRUCTIONS
1. Turn off the phone completely. Remove the battery and place it again.
2. Reboot the phone into ‘Downloading’ mode by pressing ‘VOLUME DOWN, HOME and POWER buttons simultaneously for few seconds until you see a yellow triangle with ‘Downloading’ message on the phone.
3. Run the ODIN exe.
4. Connect the phone to computer via USB cable.
5. You should now see yellow COM box. This means all USB connections are OK, and you are ready to go. If it is not so, reinstall the USB drivers again.
ODIN_COM
6. Click ‘PDA’ button and select the ‘zimage-root.tar’ file that you downloaded earlier.
7. Make sure the ODIN options are same as below.
8. Click ‘Start’ and wait until it is completed.
9. After the process is complete, the phone will reboot and go into a bootloop. Disconnect the USB connection now.
10. Turn off the phone and replace the battery.
11. Get into ‘Download’ mode again as specified in step (2).
12. Connect the phone to computer again and run the ODIN again.
13. Click ‘PDA’ button and choose the ‘zimage.tar’ file.
14. Click ‘Start’ and wait for the process to finish. You will get ‘PASS’ in ODIN.
=) just Sharing this quick and easy... Credits To XDA you guys are awsome thank you for everything...
Ricanblaze said:
Alright guys i was having Trouble rooting and i couldnt find a way or anything but with this it was easy 1 2 3 process i was able to root and everything... finally but i thought i would share for anyone who is having trouble with the superclick or any other process but heres how i did it.
REQUIREMENTS
1. Download zimage-root.tar to computer.
2. Download zimage.tar to computer.
3. Download ODIN to computer and unzip it.
4. You should have a working USB connection between computer and phone. If not, install Samsung USB drivers:
Download Samsung Drivers for 32-Bit Windows
Download Samsung Drivers for 64-Bit Windows
INSTRUCTIONS
1. Turn off the phone completely. Remove the battery and place it again.
2. Reboot the phone into ‘Downloading’ mode by pressing ‘VOLUME DOWN, HOME and POWER buttons simultaneously for few seconds until you see a yellow triangle with ‘Downloading’ message on the phone.
3. Run the ODIN exe.
4. Connect the phone to computer via USB cable.
5. You should now see yellow COM box. This means all USB connections are OK, and you are ready to go. If it is not so, reinstall the USB drivers again.
ODIN_COM
6. Click ‘PDA’ button and select the ‘zimage-root.tar’ file that you downloaded earlier.
7. Make sure the ODIN options are same as below.
8. Click ‘Start’ and wait until it is completed.
9. After the process is complete, the phone will reboot and go into a bootloop. Disconnect the USB connection now.
10. Turn off the phone and replace the battery.
11. Get into ‘Download’ mode again as specified in step (2).
12. Connect the phone to computer again and run the ODIN again.
13. Click ‘PDA’ button and choose the ‘zimage.tar’ file.
14. Click ‘Start’ and wait for the process to finish. You will get ‘PASS’ in ODIN.
=) just Sharing this quick and easy... Credits To XDA you guys are awsome thank you for everything...
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You do you know this rooting process was already put up, by me months ago
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yea but i thought i would post this just to help other people....jeezz sorry
lol you could have just posted a link to dsextons page. Would have saved you some copy and pasting
hey! i've seen this guide somewhere before!!....maybe i'll just use that ever elusive search button!!......nah....i'll just make a new thread....(sorry, 13 minutes left of work and i need to kill time)
i still found it helpful and thanked everyones threads that tries to help others.
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i still found it helpful and thanked everyones threads that tries to help others.
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Tehdkdneozjeje
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i still found it helpful and thanked everyones threads that tries to help others.
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Thank You.! Sometimes The Search isnt All that helpful because if it was i wouldnt have posted this post in the first place... and i would have rooted my phone long before posting this Thread... To All Others Whom Just Wanted to Come Post Negative Comments. You didnt Have to Post.. if u dont have anything kind to say Keep it to your self..
Ricanblaze said:
Thank You.! Sometimes The Search isnt All that helpful because if it was i wouldnt have posted this post in the first place... and i would have rooted my phone long before posting this Thread... To All Others Whom Just Wanted to Come Post Negative Comments. You didnt Have to Post.. if u dont have anything kind to say Keep it to your self..
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No, it is up to YOU guys to read and go through everything before posting stupid repeat threads. We get people like you who dont read or search and so you post a repeat thread and guess what? You just added another pointless thread to the long list of threads thus creating more people like YOU because they dont wanna read and search because there are so many threads and so it becomes one crazy circle
So stop your crying and follow the rules before posting
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you basically admitted that you copied desexton's guide on rooting, and put it in a new thread as your own, without giving him credit. THAT is why people were negative toward you.

Can Not Get Naked Drivers Installed for NvFlash Setup

I can not figure out what the hell I am doing wrong here.
I downloaded the naked driver pack on the guide page labeled 'Drivers TF700: Windows (Patched Universal Naked Driver)'. I unzipped the folder and plugged my TF700 into my computer. I then opened up the Device Manager and clicked on 'Asus Android Devices', then right clicked on 'Asus Android Composite ADB Interface' and pressed uninstall. I checked the 'delete the driver software for this device' and pressed OK.
The drivers uninstalled successfully and I turned off my WiFi card. I then unplugged and re-plugged my TF700 and navigated to 'Other Devices' in the Device Manager. I right clicked on 'Asus Android Composite ADB Interface' and clicked 'update driver software...' and then on 'browse my computer for driver software'.
I then navigated to the folder that I unzipped the driver pack to and tried to install them (clicking the 'include sub-folders' option). No go, I got the error message 'Windows was unable to find the driver software for your device' or something very similar. I then tried specifically pointing to both the i386 and amd64 sub-folders just to see if that wouldn't work somehow but I got the same error message.
What am I doing wrong? I am using a Lenovo G550 (I think) 32-bit laptop running Windows 7. My TF700 is rooted and unlocked but not much else has been done to it.
If anyone can help me get these installed I would really appreciate it. I assume I can probably set up NvFlash with the standard Asus drivers but I would rather set it up exactly the way it is recommended to ensure success.
Massive thanks in advance!
Blake
Put the device in apx mode then try that process. It should show up as an APX device and that's what you apply the nvflash drivers to.
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Put the device in apx mode then try that process. It should show up as an APX device and that's what you apply the nvflash drivers to.
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That step isn't till later
@OP - let it update the drivers form Windows. That should be fine. As long as you can see the device and it has no errors or warnings around it. you only need the specific drivers when you get to the APX mode, then it will find them.
I had pretty much the same problem, but it turned out it went a lot smoother with reboot in between. Try that, and disable Windows' desperate searching for drivers on Windows Update -- I got some funky drivers and device designations from the WHQL drivers... Please report back in with any progress or lack thereof, and we'll try and get you back on track.
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I had pretty much the same problem, but it turned out it went a lot smoother with reboot in between. Try that, and disable Windows' desperate searching for drivers on Windows Update -- I got some funky drivers and device designations from the WHQL drivers... Please report back in with any progress or lack thereof, and we'll try and get you back on track.
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This.
I had big time problems as well with installing these correctly. You need to reboot after uninstalling all old drivers. 1) Hook up Infinity in Android Debug mode 2) uninstall/delete old drivers like you did 3) reboot PC 4) Plug in Infinity again in Android Debug mode 5) install drivers manually through hardware wizard (use have disk option)
Repeat this process for fastboot mode. Note: you will get a warning that you are installing drivers that have not passed WHQL. Disregard. Install anyways.
Its a pain in the butt process but you have to reboot after uninstalling each old driver. You should probably reboot and remove Infinity USB connection after each successful install of new drivers. This is how I got everything to work. I also tried a different USB port.
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SOTK said:
Repeat this process for fastboot mode. Note: you will get a warning that you are installing drivers that have not passed WHQL. Disregard. Install anyways.
Its a pain in the butt process but you have to reboot after uninstalling each old driver. You should probably reboot and remove Infinity USB connection after each successful install of new drivers. This is how I got everything to work. I also tried a different USB port.
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Can you clarify this? What do you mean by 'repeat this for fastboot mode'?
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Still no luck. I uninstalled 'ASUS ABD Interface', unplugged the TF700, restarted the computer, plugged the tablet back in, and tried to uninstall. Told me the same thing, that Windows could not find the driver software.
Any other ideas? I have no clue what to do now...
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I_EAT_BABIES said:
If anyone can help me get these installed I would really appreciate it. I assume I can probably set up NvFlash with the standard Asus drivers but I would rather set it up exactly the way it is recommended to ensure success.
Massive thanks in advance!
Blake
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I am having the same exact issue. And strangely I get the same results on both my laptop and desk top systems. I search the forums for solutions and found the same answers that were suggested here but nothing works for me. I just can't figure out what I am doing wrong since so many others seem to be able to install the drivers without problems. Did you ever resolve your driver issue? Are you certain that the standard ASUS drivers will work?
Eddie Hicks said:
I am having the same exact issue. And strangely I get the same results on both my laptop and desk top systems. I search the forums for solutions and found the same answers that were suggested here but nothing works for me. I just can't figure out what I am doing wrong since so many others seem to be able to install the drivers without problems. Did you ever resolve your driver issue? Are you certain that the standard ASUS drivers will work?
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Guys you need to install those drivers manually,it's not that hard.Here's how you should do it:
1) Put your device in Fastboot or APX mode (depend on the driver you want to install) and connect it to your PC
2) Open Device Manager and select the device
3) Right Click and select " Update Driver Software " and choose " Browse My Computer for driver software"
4) Now click on " Let me pick from a list of device driver " and select " HAVE DISK "
5) BROWSE to the folder where naked drivers are located and select "android_winusb.inf " if you are trying to install the FastBoot driver or choose " android_apxusb.inf " if you are trying to install the APX drivers.
6) After the installation is done reboot your PC
If Windows give you a big red warning about the driver not beeing signed just ignore it and go ahead installing the driver.
Also you should disable UAC if it's enabled.
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4) Now click on " Let me pick from a list of device driver " and select " HAVE DISK "
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Thank you very, very much but I just figured that out and came back to this thread to tell it. I wasn't doing the "Have Disk" thing. I was just browsing to the driver's folder. I just successfully installed NVflash. I installed the ADB drivers at first but during the Nvflash installation process I had to go back and install the APX drivers. Thanks again. Now time for Jelly Bean.
Eddie Hicks said:
Thank you very, very much but I just figured that out and came back to this thread to tell it. I wasn't doing the "Have Disk" thing. I was just browsing to the driver's folder. I just successfully installed NVflash. I installed the ADB drivers at first but during the Nvflash installation process I had to go back and install the APX drivers. Thanks again. Now time for Jelly Bean.
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Haha, nice! but still be very careful, 98% of the brick situation on tf700, NVflash didn't help at all.
buhohitr said:
Haha, nice! but still be very careful, 98% of the brick situation on tf700, NVflash didn't help at all.
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Is the other way around, NvFlash will help you in 98% of bricks situation, if you don't believe try to investigate more, you can even try to wipe your bootloader if you want to check that percentage.
Pretoriano80 said:
Guys you need to install those drivers manually,it's not that hard.Here's how you should do it:
1) Put your device in Fastboot or APX mode (depend on the driver you want to install) and connect it to your PC
2) Open Device Manager and select the device
3) Right Click and select " Update Driver Software " and choose " Browse My Computer for driver software"
4) Now click on " Let me pick from a list of device driver " and select " HAVE DISK "
5) BROWSE to the folder where naked drivers are located and select "android_winusb.inf " if you are trying to install the FastBoot driver or choose " android_apxusb.inf " if you are trying to install the APX drivers.
6) After the installation is done reboot your PC
If Windows give you a big red warning about the driver not beeing signed just ignore it and go ahead installing the driver.
Also you should disable UAC if it's enabled.
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I'm still not getting it I guess. I am assuming when doing it this way you do not uninstall the original drivers first or else the computer would not recognize the device correctly, please correct me if I am wrong.
I keep seeing this supposed "have disk" option talked about but I don't see it anywhere. Could someone please screenshot it for me?
Thanks for all the help guys, I (hope) I am close to getting it.
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Pretoriano80 said:
Is the other way around, NvFlash will help you in 98% of bricks situation, if you don't believe try to investigate more, you can even try to wipe your bootloader if you want to check that percentage.
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I'm talking about nvflash for the tf700 only. 98% of ppl in the tf700 experienced this type of issue where nvflash is uselessmost I believe cause by install custom recovery), where your pc failed to see your device. Below is another sample.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778353
buhohitr said:
I'm talking about nvflash for the tf700 only. 98% of ppl in the tf700 experienced this type of issue where nvflash is uselessmost I believe cause by install custom recovery), where your pc failed to see your device. Below is another sample.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778353
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So I see you are trolling this thread too... 98%??? Really??? Can you give a source for that or is that a number you just made up?
NVFlash is useless if you have not already made the backups. But you are completely incorrect if you are suggesting that it is useless even if you have made the backups.
Best not to troll when you clearly do not understand what you are talking about
I_EAT_BABIES said:
I'm still not getting it I guess. I am assuming when doing it this way you do not uninstall the original drivers first or else the computer would not recognize the device correctly, please correct me if I am wrong.
I keep seeing this supposed "have disk" option talked about but I don't see it anywhere. Could someone please screenshot it for me?
Thanks for all the help guys, I (hope) I am close to getting it.
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Anyone?
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Anyone?
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Damn,i can't believe this....When you get to this step " 4) Now click on " Let me pick from a list of device driver " and select " HAVE DISK ... " look on the right bottom of that menu,do you see a "Have Disk" button?.
I_EAT_BABIES said:
Anyone?
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Here is a screen capture from my system. Look in the lower right for the HAVE DISK button. Following the directions giving earlier should get you to this point. Just click HAVE DISK and guide to where you have the drivers on your system. You may not see the list of drivers as on the screen capture the first time you do it. Since I have already installed the drivers the system remembered where to look so the drivers are visible. Also make sure to connect your tablet to your computer in order for the device to be visible in device manager. The device in device manager should say android ABD Interface or something of that sort. It took me awhile to get it too
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Apparently the link opens another page.Once on that page click the little box for the image.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ykuv2ac6zxdln7i/driver_update.JPG
As of the time of this reply I have got the Fasboot drivers installed, but I still saw now "have disk" option. After turning UAC off (don't know how that got back on) I was still just selecting a folder as shown in my previous screenshot.
About to try APX, will post results.
Got it! Thank you guys so much, I really appreciate it. This was seriously driving me crazy, but I still don't understand how we are looking at different menus.

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