OEM 2.3.6 would like to root keeping everything as close as OEM as possible (don't like the custom ROMs).
Please advise.
Is a Kernel swap possible? Change Kernel to Gain Root then reflash back to Stock kernel?
toshik1 said:
OEM 2.3.6 would like to root keeping everything as close as OEM as possible (don't like the custom ROMs).
Please advise.
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try vagabond 3.5. It's almost completely stock but rooted.
If you follow directions, you can also flash the stock kernel and retain root.
There is no simple conventional method of root like SOC on the Infuse 2.3.6
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If you wanted to retain the odex file system,
you will need to flash a gb insecure kernel.
install superuser and busybox
flash back the stock kernel and fix the vold file.
it will be fun to try
Anyone here ever heard of or used OTA Rootkeeper? I have no clue if it will work on a Kies install method (never actually flashed through Kies) but, with my Transformer Prime, we used said app to retain root privileges after an OTA update from Asus. Worked everytime for me, even when updating to ICS from Honeycomb, so maybe Froyo to GB will be similar.
I don't have my Infuse with me (left it at home) or I would attempt it myself. It would be great if someone with prior kernel flashing knowledge could try it; if it doesn't work you can just flash a kernel to get your root back.
Additionally when we first got GB last summer I remember seeing a how-to from a dev explaining how we would achieve root on GB once AT&T released the update (since SOC only works with Froyo for us)...
I have used the ota rootkeeper on my atrix 2 when it got updated. Its a pain in the ass to use. The infuse does not need it plus i don't think it will work. Rooting the infuse is easy if you use the appropriate kernels.
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I have used the ota rootkeeper on my atrix 2 when it got updated. Its a pain in the ass to use. The infuse does not need it plus i don't think it will work. Rooting the infuse is easy if you use the appropriate kernels.
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I actually thought it was pretty friggin simple. Open the app/Protect Root/Temp. Unroot/Install OTA Update/DL Rootkeeper/Open/Restore Root. Seems pretty painless to me
And the OP wants as close to stock as possible, sure to me and you flashing an unsecure kernel is easy to gain root, but most ppl would rather have a one click executable through a PC w/ the right drivers for phone.
Soo I was thinking, the Kies Update shouldn't erase everything (apps, sdcard, etc.), Rootkeeper stores su in a place that isn't wiped during an OTA. I could be wrong, the app might not even be compatible, but I don't have my Infuse to try..
The process, if it works, requires very little knowledge to do and gives you root w/o messing w/ kernels:
1. Start from the latest Froyo stock build/ use SuperOneClick w/ drivers to root.
2. DL Rootkeeper/open/protect root/temp. unroot.
3. Run Kies and install the update
4. On your fresh GB build DL Rootkeeper from market, open/restore root.
5. Open Rootchecker and see if it worked. Done.
If it doesn't work, flash a kernel. (hell, what have we lost anyways, 30 mins?)
This weekend I'm driving home for the weekend, I can try it then; till then, any takers?
Again, if you have to know-how to flash a kernel, do it, I'm just brain storming alternatives for those who don't or don't want to.
I gave my personal Opinion about the ota rootkeeper. I just don't like it. Its easy yes but I personally would rather do it manually with a computer. Plus it will not work with kies. Kies is different than a ota update. The leak lb3 is the exact same as official. He can use kies to update, flash a rooted gingerbread kernel then flash the stock lb3 kernel. He will then be rooted with stock kernel.
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He can use kies to update, flash a rooted gingerbread kernel then flash the stock lb3 kernel. He will then be rooted with stock kernel.
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in between, the kernels, there is the su binaries and busybox thingie.
qkster said:
in between, the kernels, there is the su binaries and busybox thingie.
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Im sorry i forgot to add that in.
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Im sorry i forgot to add that in.
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I gave my personal Opinion about the ota rootkeeper. I just don't like it. Its easy yes but I personally would rather do it manually with a computer. Plus it will not work with kies. Kies is different than a ota update. The leak lb3 is the exact same as official. He can use kies to update, flash a rooted gingerbread kernel then flash the stock lb3 kernel. He will then be rooted with stock kernel.
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Your right, its your opinion, and Rootkeeper most likely will not play well w/ Kies. Trust me, I would much rather flash a kernel for su, it really is a lot easier than some noobs might think.
As for Kies, I clearly stated that I haven't use Kies for an update, that it might not work and that I could be wrong I'm fully aware Kies is different than OTA; I'm pretty sure it wipes where the su binaries are protected, I only offered a suggestion for the OP, again b/c jumping into flashing things just for root sounds scary. The whole point was to voice possible alternatives, etc, you know, cuz that's what we do here at xda...
@OP, if you want to gain root through a kernel, I would suggest first looking into THESE links as you might have to use some methods listed there.
Also Qk's Back to stock guide HERE can get you to stock B3 w/ custom recovery (rather easy), and his Vagabond Rom has great instructions concerning his rom and stock kernels if need be HERE. Make sure to thank qkster for these. (I guess he has spent a lot of time with the B3 leak. )
We are kind of late to the GB party, it seems things aren't as straight forward as they were in Froyo or GB <= 2.3.5. The links should get you pointed in the right direction to get your phone stock + root. Good luck and READ up!
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Anyone came up with the rooted version of the following?
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00045587&fm_seq=46249
The latest official release from samsung (UCLB3)? My post right ABOVE yours is me explaining how to root the newest build, links included! Read! You would have quickly found that flashing an insecure kernel is your best bet.
Additionally, I tried the method I was discussing in this thread (ota rootkeeper) and it didn't work. (@tmease, you opinion is now fact )
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I'm updated to GB and can't revert. I think I know the answer to this because I've been watching superoneclick like a hawk waiting for version 2.0 but no sign yet. I just was wondering tho, if there was some serious forceful way to wipe my g2x and flash stock rom thru nvflash?
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I too am waiting for a way to root the update. I don't like flashing roms that are not from official sources (lg, T Mobile) not that there is any thing wrong with other roms I just prefer official stock rooted with my own tweaks. Hopefully soon one of the great developers here can figure it out
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There's nandroid .zips out there for stock (2.2), restore to that then do as you will.
NVFlash isn't bothered by updates of any kind, so if you've lost custom recovery just re-flash
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the first 2 posts in this thread make my head spin. luckily for me, i'm the most interesting man in the world.
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I'm updated to GB and can't revert. I think I know the answer to this because I've been watching superoneclick like a hawk waiting for version 2.0 but no sign yet. I just was wondering tho, if there was some serious forceful way to wipe my g2x and flash stock rom thru nvflash?
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you can't revert to what? and why can't you? who or what is stopping you? you don't flash roms through nvflash. just recoveries. i know the o2x can flash roms with nvflash, but i'm not sure about g2x. correct me if i'm wrong.
sellingfear said:
I too am waiting for a way to root the update. I don't like flashing roms that are not from official sources (lg, T Mobile) not that there is any thing wrong with other roms I just prefer official stock rooted with my own tweaks. Hopefully soon one of the great developers here can figure it out
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so, you have the update, and you're not rooted yet? what are you waiting for?
There is a ROM that is a rooted stock update. Its very easy. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748
I myself tried the Eaglesblood 1.05 on top of the update and its fantastic.
good one crazythunder!
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so, you have the update, and you're not rooted yet? what are you waiting for?
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i am unable to root by way of superoneclick and as far as the xda forum i refered to to root my g2x before i updated thru lgupdate these steps just dont work anymore. i cannot reroot my phone after having lost root
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you can't revert to what? and why can't you? who or what is stopping you? you don't flash roms through nvflash. just recoveries. i know the o2x can flash roms with nvflash, but i'm not sure about g2x. correct me if i'm wrong.
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i cannot revert to froyo 2.2. i cant revert because i lost root, so no more clockworkmod recovery and no success rooting by way of superoneclick. stock bootloader and gingerbread update on my g2x is stopping me
thank-you for your time crazythunder
Daffydukc said:
i cannot revert to froyo 2.2. i cant revert because i lost root, so no more clockworkmod recovery and no success rooting by way of superoneclick. stock bootloader and gingerbread update on my g2x is stopping me
thank-you for your time crazythunder
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just reflash clockwork mod with the one click flash app. then flash any rom you want.
Ok, if you have not been able to figure out how to do it with all of the posts written here, all of the stickies, all of the replies to your pleadings, then PLEASE...don't root. Keep your phone just as it is, or have T-mobile replace it with a stock version, as you don't appear to have the capacity to successfully mod a cellphone. I"m sorry to be harsh, but seriously...pick a different hobby.
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Ok, if you have not been able to figure out how to do it with all of the posts written here, all of the stickies, all of the replies to your pleadings, then PLEASE...don't root. Keep your phone just as it is, or have T-mobile replace it with a stock version, as you don't appear to have the capacity to successfully mod a cellphone. I"m sorry to be harsh, but seriously...pick a different hobby.
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after doing this stuff for years,and pc tech support online as well, i don't think i'd be cut out for phone tech support. eventually i think i'd just snap and flip out on someone. i try my best to be patient and helpful. but it just drives me nuts having spent YEARS reading and experimenting, only to see others wanting to be spoonfed(not intended towards anyone in particular). looks like you're in the same boat? lol
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Ok, if you have not been able to figure out how to do it with all of the posts written here, all of the stickies, all of the replies to your pleadings, then PLEASE...don't root. Keep your phone just as it is, or have T-mobile replace it with a stock version, as you don't appear to have the capacity to successfully mod a cellphone. I"m sorry to be harsh, but seriously...pick a different hobby.
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thank you for your condescending advise. i hope one of the xda mods makes you xda police. and i hope the baby your wife is expecting is born healthy and energetic.
to reiterate i cannot flash anything thru nvflash(clockwork nor stock froyo) and i cannot root with superoneclick. i updated by using a KDZ_FW_UPD.exe app that was linked in these very forums. this app apparently is translated from korean. i was not able to flash the new .kdz version by normal means--i had to go into the submenu "read phone information" and click "upgrade start" there...that installed gingerbread and unrooted me.
rather than evoke more eager and stoic xda members' attempt to distinguish themselves as intelligent comprehending human beings i simply instead wish for my thread to by deleted lest this be another blight on our holy xda forums g2x section where from nothing but the best forums posts stems from. because we could probably use another "what do you think guys? should i trade back my sensation for the g2x i once owned already now that gingerbread::drooool:: is finally out because i didnt know there already were gingerbread roms out there and instead i just had to tell the whole world "goodbye lg, never again, cry river?""
i am still on my first g2x and have never called tmobile complaining about screen bleed or anything else that seems to be only perpetuated by retarded threads in this g2x general forum that i sift thru on a DAILY basis while trying to find useful information and possible help out someone with advise from my own experience in similar situations
Daffydukc said:
to reiterate i cannot flash anything thru nvflash(clockwork nor stock froyo) and i cannot root with superoneclick.i had to go into the submenu "read phone information" and click "upgrade start" there...that installed gingerbread and unrooted me.
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1.-to reiterate i cannot flash anything thru nvflash(clockwork nor stock froyo)..
.stock froyo is flashed through cwm, not nvflash. why cant you update? be more specific. error messages?
2-.i had to go into the submenu "read phone information" and click "upgrade start" there...that installed gingerbread and unrooted me.
i updated the same way, then flashed back to cwm. nvflash gave me issues,although it always worked before, but one click flasher app flashed it fine.
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i updated the same way, then flashed back to cwm. nvflash gave me issues,although it always worked before, but one click flasher app flashed it fine.
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i am holding the volume up and down buttons just as the instructions says and just as i did when i originally rooted back when my phone was running stock froyo 2.2, back before i updated my phone to gingerbread and the new baseband. but i just get the message that there is no communication with my device
Check device manager and see if your phone is detected there. You may need to reinstall the drivers
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i am holding the volume up and down buttons just as the instructions says and just as i did when i originally rooted back when my phone was running stock froyo 2.2, back before i updated my phone to gingerbread and the new baseband. but i just get the message that there is no communication with my device
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uninstall all lg drivers. reboot. reinstall drivers http://www.lg.com/us/support/mc-support/drivers/LG_T-Mobile_Android_USB_Driver_v2.2.zip
@Daffydukc, I had the same issue. The good news is that since you already updated using the LG tool, you have the newer baseband. Right now, the "hard part" is getting CMW through NV flash back, which will let you flash whatever rom you want. I suggest the pre-rooted version of the same gingerbread update from xboarder56 over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748
For now, try what crazythunder suggested and uninstall the LG drivers that the LG update tool might have deposited on your system and reinstall the drivers that worked prior to your update. Take out the battery, hold down vol up AND vol down, plug in the usb cable and see if your computer see's your phone. If it doesn't work, try again (it didn't work for me the 1st time either)
I'm now rooted with new baseband and liking it so far, goodluck.
THANK YOU!
great advise with the uninstall and then re install lg drivers i had not considered lg update tools overwriting the drivers that allow flashing CWM with drivers that arent really conducive to flashing CWM. i did that, and i read somewhere a suggestion to press the power button as well as the volume buttons.
i cant tell which of these two things was what did it for me but i'm so grateful for the help. i was sure to hit the thanks button for you guys!!
Hello,
When I first purchased the SGS4G a few months ago I was able to follow a nice and user-friendly tutorial on how to root my phone using super-one-click. I wanted to delete all of the nasty bloatware and also unlock my phone. That worked lovely (thanks by the way) and everything was going well....
That is until I got a message from my friend telling me that Samsung has released an offical update (gingerbread) and that it will provide better battery life ect... I eagery followed the official steps and used something called Kies to update my phone!
Everything seemed fine until I noticed some of the bloatware had returned. No problem I thought, I'll use my titanium backup app to re-delete it, no luck... Basically it seems as if my phone has been re-rooted and SuperUser freezes when I try to open it. Have I hurt my phone by upgrading without putting it back to the factory settings? I don't want to flash my phone or anything fancy, I am just wondering if I can root my phone from gingerbread again (if so how) or if I have to live with the bloatware again.
Thanks in advance!
i wouldnt use kies anymore when you have a forum like this.
we have a ton of GB roms here, so you can look into those on your own. i would recommend following FBis251's GB Starter Pack.
to answer your question, to Root GB, just flash Drhonks GB kernels. that will give you root and CWM
Ok wow, that is a bit confusing to me as I am not super educated in the world of Android manipulation. I searched up some info regarding what you told me and it seems flashing will GIVE me gingerbread, but thats what I have already. Also, not sure what kernel or CWM means, sorry!
Thanks for your help though!
Aannon said:
Ok wow, that is a bit confusing to me as I am not super educated in the world of Android manipulation. I searched up some info regarding what you told me and it seems flashing will GIVE me gingerbread, but thats what I have already. Also, not sure what kernel or CWM means, sorry!
Thanks for your help though!
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GB doesn't come on this phone, either you you don't have a Sgs4g our you have froyo.
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cybok0 said:
GB doesn't come on this phone, either you you don't have a Sgs4g our you have froyo.
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I am confused, but I'm not completely stupid... The whole point of this topic is to figure if it's possible to root a SGS4G with Gingerbread. I know the phone came with froyo, but my provider allowed for an offical update TO Gingerbread so I decided to update.
Aannon said:
I am confused, but I'm not completely stupid... The whole point of this topic is to figure if it's possible to root a SGS4G with Gingerbread. I know the phone came with froyo, but my provider allowed for an offical update TO Gingerbread so I decided to update.
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There isn't a official release of GB for this phone, you must have a different one.
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yea. there is no official gingerbread for this phone yet. what is your model number? (settings -->about phone--> model). also, what is your firmare version and build number? i'll walk you through it
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yea. there is no official gingerbread for this phone yet. what is your model number? (settings -->about phone--> model). also, what is your firmare version and build number? i'll walk you through it
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Ok, though the update may not have been official I did it using Kies so I assumed it was, sorry guys. That being said, here's my info:
Model: SGH-T959P
Firm: 2.3.4
Build#: GINGERBREAD.PTLKH2
I don't know if this helps, but the program I used to unlock the first time was called super-one-click (or something similar) and the program installed on my phone is called Superuser. Now it doesn't work the same and other programs say my phone isn't rooted.
Hope this helps, I really appreciate the attention.
The issue that you are having is that you cannot use superoneclick to root GB.
To do this you must flash Dr honks kernel.
Now you are right when you looked it up and it said that you would flash to get GB. You will also flash to get root with GB. It will not replace the whole rom.
In the Dev section there is a post by Drhonk labelled [Kernel][GB][KG4/KG6/KH2/KI1/KI3] Stock Kernel + CWM + Voodoo EXT4 Lagfix.
Grab one of those kernels from his post. Just for ease say you use the new KI3 kernel.
There are 2 options. The Odin version or the CWM version. I really recommend using ODIN. It is easier in my opinion and you should get comfortable with ODIN anyways.
Once flashed you will not have to do anything additional. It will reboot your phone and as soon as its powered up you again will have root access (which will fix your superuser issues you mentioned as well) and give you red CWM.
Are you familiar with using ODIN at all?
no, jiggly, he has the wrong phone.
aannon, this forum is for the T959V, not p. I think you have a fascinate. look up the info on those forums.
never flash a rom from another phone. it will always brick. use odin to restore your phone to T959P stock and go from there.
Thanks for the heads up, I've done some more digging and because my phone is technically called the Fascinate 4G i think it is indeed slightly different. It's a phone from a Canadian provider, Telus and I think it's a bit of a blacksheep. The phone for all intents and purposes is almost identical to your 4G, but it is different enough to require its own software ect... Thanks for the warning! I may have to live with bloatware for now
Okay...
So I accidentally dropped my phone, and it was a TOTAL loss. It would not even power back on. I received the replacement phone today and followed through with the GB update via Kies Mini. Now when I attempt to root the phone, Superoneclick stops responding. Any suggestions?
Check out the threads in the dev forum for info on how to root. You will need to flash a rooted kernel.
I've attempted to root by several different methods, and no matter how many times, or which method I use, it will not root. I made sure that the phone was checked for USD debugging and for unknown resources. Anyone have any suggestions?
Edit: My apologies, as I thought that I posted the thread in the Q&A section where it is supposed to be.
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Okay...
So I accidentally dropped my phone, and it was a TOTAL loss. It would not even power back on. I received the replacement phone today and followed through with the GB update via Kies Mini. Now when I attempt to root the phone, Superoneclick stops responding. Any suggestions?
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Did your screen crack? how did you not get charged?
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OnProzac said:
Okay...
So I accidentally dropped my phone, and it was a TOTAL loss. It would not even power back on. I received the replacement phone today and followed through with the GB update via Kies Mini. Now when I attempt to root the phone, Superoneclick stops responding. Any suggestions?
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If you want root back, you're gonna need to flash a rooted kernel through Odin. Currently Superoneclick doesn't work on GB. Hope this helps.
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There is no root method for stock 2.3.6 yet... period..
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you can root it but gasp, you wont be able to flash the "official" kernel back to it since we cant dump the kernel without root... but you can flash the kl2 leaked kernel to it (same thing) but with sdcard workarounds and voodoo lagfix you need to consider a few things and its alot to say, but why bother, just use the rogers root kernel with cwm to flash a yummy rom from the dev section...
as far as rooting it without a kernel replacement well good luck with that. i will likely make a rooted heimdall package in a few days but it will have the kernel from the leaked rom (same thing) if that scares anyone with their irrational rationalizations...
why heimdall? well the mac users need some love since samsung and att wont give it to them.. its more reliable that that crappy samsung software be it kies or odin. and with the package system introduced in version 1.3 it is idiot proof..
if you must have an odin version make it your self.
Idietssss
...... what's whit these people .....let it go for some time then try ....... I'm sick of these people asking for there problems to ... be solved ASAP
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weve know this would be a problem for like a year when the rogers infuse came out.
the rogers method works but it's just so many considerations and annoyances to tell people how to do it problem free. you have to assume they can creaet a file to disable the lagfix before hand and that they can extract and compress another file and depending on the kernel they use to root it they may need to edit one charachter of text. it all easy stuff but it becomes a lengthy post explaining it and then the next guy doesnt read what you already answered. ill wait for source code and fully compatible kernels with cwm so we dont have to worry about the extra process of reverting to a stock kernel, till then im burnt out on saying the same thing over and over and over.
OK before anyone blasts me yes I have researched for two days now and feel like I have been run in circles. I have searched XDA and Google to no avail and no I'm not a noob. I myself have a galaxy s2 skyrocket but recently got my wife the infuse and I'm starting to think that was a mistake. OK this is what I've found...
I type in Google how to install CWM recovery on the infuse and every thing I find says it must be rooted first.
Running Android 2.3.6 update thru Samsung kies....
So I type in how to root the infuse and what I find is if you want to root without flashing a new kernal you must have CWM to install a zip file from the SD.
Seems like one big circle. To root my skyrocket was easy as flashing a recovery image in Odin of CWM recovery and opening a super user zip file to root. 5 minutes easy as 1.2.3.
So my questions are..
1. Can I flash a recovery image tar of CWM to the infuse using Odin?
2. If so where can I download the tar file. I already have Odin 1.85 installed on my PC so I don't need that unless the tar comes in a one click.
3. If I can't how can I root and install CWM without flashing a custom kernel?
Please don't give links to nothing heimdel. The last time I used heimdel was with my captivate and I spent 3 days unbricking it.
4. Will the Motorola exploit added in super one click work with Samsung or harm the phone in anyway?
Thanks ahead of time for the help...
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OK before anyone blasts me yes I have researched for two days now and feel like I have been run in circles. I have searched XDA and Google to no avail and no I'm not a noob. I myself have a galaxy s2 skyrocket but recently got my wife the infuse and I'm starting to think that was a mistake. OK this is what I've found...
I type in Google how to install CWM recovery on the infuse and every thing I find says it must be rooted first.
Running Android 2.3.6 update thru Samsung kies....
So I type in how to root the infuse and what I find is if you want to root without flashing a new kernal you must have CWM to install a zip file from the SD.
Seems like one big circle. To root my skyrocket was easy as flashing a recovery image in Odin of CWM recovery and opening a super user zip file to root. 5 minutes easy as 1.2.3.
So my questions are..
1. Can I flash a recovery image tar of CWM to the infuse using Odin?
2. If so where can I download the tar file. I already have Odin 1.85 installed on my PC so I don't need that unless the tar comes in a one click.
3. If I can't how can I root and install CWM without flashing a custom kernel?
Please don't give links to nothing heimdel. The last time I used heimdel was with my captivate and I spent 3 days unbricking it.
4. Will the Motorola exploit added in super one click work with Samsung or harm the phone in anyway?
Thanks ahead of time for the help...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1613523
But is flashing a new kernel the only option for rooting? If it were my phone I would flash away cause I'm a flashaholic but she don't want to lose all her info and have to restore it all. The only reason she wants root is to freeze those very annoying att bloatware apps that aggravate everyone by running all the time and slowing everything down...
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But is flashing a new kernel the only option for rooting? If it were my phone I would flash away cause I'm a flashaholic but she don't want to lose all her info and have to restore it all. The only reason she wants root is to freeze those very annoying att bloatware apps that aggravate everyone by running all the time and slowing everything down...
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Check with jscott. He may know for certain.
Flashing kernel does not alter data.
I made several root via heimdall versions.
Instead of heimdall, basically, if you can Odin an insecure kernel, boot into cwm recovery, you can flash my cwm root package.
It also remove all bloats. Check my uclb3 root thread especially post #2
And as far as I know, on the infuse uclb3, you can't root without an insecure kernel flash in download mode.
Well it may cost a phone of I may soft brick it a few times but I'm gonna put my programming skills to the test and see if I cant come up with a one click root to 1. Make life easier for everyone and 2. To make it simple for the noobs to figure out. I'll let you know if my java VB and other languages I know can come up with something. It may take me a while and a lot of lost sleep hair pulling cursing and crying but I'm gonna give it my best effort.. wish me luck cause I'm gonna need it...
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For now, the normal exploits used for a one click root option don't work on the stock UCLB3 Gingerbread kernel. As qkster has mentioned, you need an insecure kernel to root UCLB3. Also, there isn't an easy way yet to change the stock recovery to CWM without using a custom kernel zImage that includes it. Check out this HOW-TO that I wrote up for an explanation of what it takes to root UCLB3 Gingerbread. This explains how to temporarily use a custom kernel to achieve root, and also explains how to go back to the stock kernel. None of this removes existing data on the phone.:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1603220
If you don't want to do all of the work required to root UCLB3 on your phone, then you can use qkster's Heimdall one-click packages or my Odin packages that he showed you earlier.
you can root the infuse with super one click... easiest way to just root it, and also might i add, the infuse is very difficult to hard brick, soft bricks are easy to fix, with odin or hiemdall but i haven't yet heard or seen a case where the infuse is actually hard bricked, now installing cwm is easy as well, just youtube it, very simple and that there should get you on your way to flashing
deathblade said:
you can root the infuse with super one click... easiest way to just root it
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Assuming that you are talking about going back to stock Froyo to root with SuperOneClick? As of yet, you can't reliably use SuperOneClick on the latest Gingerbread release. Sounds like the OP wants to directly root UCLB3 Gingerbread.
garydv2002 said:
Well it may cost a phone of I may soft brick it a few times but I'm gonna put my programming skills to the test and see if I cant come up with a one click root to 1. Make life easier for everyone and 2. To make it simple for the noobs to figure out. I'll let you know if my java VB and other languages I know can come up with something. It may take me a while and a lot of lost sleep hair pulling cursing and crying but I'm gonna give it my best effort.. wish me luck cause I'm gonna need it...
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Now, you're talking.
Good luck.
You will need to look at some kernel work.
You may also need to look at the pit files in the unbrick package.
If you can, also look at boot sequences of the galaxy device. Adam Outler did some neat stuff with the galaxy devices.
Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
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usmaak said:
Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
Thanks
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The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.
zenboy444 said:
The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.
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A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?
Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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usmaak said:
A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?
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You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.
The big reason I rooted was to uninstall all the bloatware and the ability to back everything up. That right there should be enough for anyone. As far as the ota, you should be able to, just expect to lose root as I've seen in other cases.
OnceAMatrixMan said:
Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.
Quacker said:
You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.
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I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.
usmaak said:
I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.
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In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.
Quacker said:
In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.
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I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.
Quacker said:
No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.
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I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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usmaak said:
I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.
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You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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OnceAMatrixMan said:
I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.
Quacker said:
You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.
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So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?
usmaak said:
So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?
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Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.
I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984
nufan said:
I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984
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Doesn't the counter only get tripped when you flash a ROM? Just rooting won't trip it, will it?
Quacker said:
Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.
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One more question, and I am off to give it a try. Is there any way to uproot the phone once it is rooted? You know, just in case I need to bring it in for service if something goes wrong with it.
rooting S III 4.1.1
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!
newtodroid_1 said:
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!
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Nope they both are ics only. Here it's the only way right now for jb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35418324
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