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That's it folks ... I guess there is no gingerbread+nexus S love coming my way :'(
I've been dying to get this phone since the day it released... ESPECIALLY because it's such great value for money ..
BUT - I'm in Dubai ...and it wud cost me a total of about $700+ to get this mean boy shipped safely to me
[$530+$5 case + $45 sales tax + ~$120 shipping]
Does ANYBODY know a better way to get it here?
I don't want to buy it off ebay or somewhere else, because I want someone i trust to 'test' the device for problems (and exchange it if needed) before shipping it here...
Help anyone?
[and please don't beat me up for asking!]
They are cheaper here in canada
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They'll be in Italy soon, closer than America, plus the Italian version will have 720p and a Super LCD.
Interesting ....
I have an iPhone 3g now ..and it's nearly dead [literally]
i see it choke every few minutes ... so I'm slowly preparing to put it back in its original packaging and bury it somewhere..
I can keep waiting till a European one comes about .. but from the articles I've read, i think the reduced shipping cost wud be offset by a higher up-front (529 Euros) price
Till then i'll keep praying my iPhone survives...
@the_ahmadzais: I was under the impression that it hasn't been released anywhere BUT US and UK till now? I couldn't find any google hits that talked of a Canada release, but i probably am wrong..
still ..is there a subtantial diff in prices?
it's mainly the shipping cost that is killing me ... 120$ !! [that + taxes count for 25% of the total bill to get it here!
*ouch* ]
It's been my observation that it's common practice for sellers to overcharge for shipping. Basic one-week shipping to Dubai from the United States via USPS is about half that. Of course, if you want to use a specific carrier (UPS, FedEx, et cetera) or add extra services, it costs more. But honestly, most of that stuff is just a way for the parcel service to squeeze more money out of you. I've been selling and buying online for years, and I've yet to have a package lost or grossly mishandled. If anything's been broken in transit, it was because the seller did a crappy job packaging it. Also, state sales taxes vary. Here in Oregon, there is no sales tax. So the break even point for buying and shipping a Nexus S for me would be roughly $590. Even in states with the highest sales taxes, that only goes up by about $50. So if you're buying from the U.S.- unless you're insisting either on super express shipping (less than a week) or some form of package insurance which would add to the cost- I would consider anything above $650 at most to be pure seller profit.
This non-availability is an android bug imho
abhilashraj said:
[Mods - i hope this is the right forum to post this..sorry if it isn't]
That's it folks ... I guess there is no gingerbread+nexus S love coming my way :'(
(...)
Does ANYBODY know a better way to get it here?
[and please don't beat me up for asking!]
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This wouldn't be no problem if the gingerbread reference phone was available as developer phone. Obviously google refuses to notice that there are android developers outside the USA.
This issue already has been reported as a bug. Star it. ;-)
Ya basically the ups shipping is expensive and the phone is 500 at some local stores Asian dealers. Its coming to all Canadian providers on March.
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Abilash, I understand the feeling ... frustration. I was in the same boat as you ... think you even commented about it.
I got a friend to buy it (am in Kuwait). Initially I thought I'd make the payment through paypal and get it shipped to him. On trying to complete the process, paypal through up a message saying that my paypal location does not allow shipping to the desired location (US - CA) and therefore payment cannot be completed :-s whatever that meant.
Anyway, my friend ran a quick check ... nothing detailed (checked for bad screen issues, loose volume controls and back button problem), but it back in the box and shipped it to an Aramex mailbox address in New York. Cost him $16.90 including insurance.
The item has yet to reach the address, but one its there, I understand Aramex will automatically ship it to the Kuwait address of the holder of that box. Again, I understand that the shipment cost to Kuwait should be about KD.5 or 6 (about $18/-) plus a possible customs tax of KD.3 or 4 (about $13/-).
You could either find some friend that has this box already or may prefer to apply for a box if you intend to do a lot of purchase from the US.
http://www.aramex.com/shopandship/default.aspx
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They'll be in Italy soon, closer than America, plus the Italian version will have 720p and a Super LCD.
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Where has this been confirmed? If a new version comes out with 720p I'm gonna be an unhappy customer.
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Where has this been confirmed? If a new version comes out with 720p I'm gonna be an unhappy customer.
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Super Clear LCD has been confirmed, but 720p was just a mistake: some idiot thought that 720x480 is 720p, and if only one person says it, it goes around the internet in no time.
There is a possibility that 720p video recording will come to the Nexus S in the future. Some say it can be done with an update...
Finally getting somewhere with the shipping issue
Really nice to see people offering their two cents..
thank you!
@zorak - the massive addition causing the price to jump beyond the $650 mark is only the shipping cost @120 ... I am using fedex's/ups' online estimate tools to approximate shipping cost... I understand that the estimates wud be off by a bit vs. the actual cost... but I doubt it would be a a $50 drop ...probably a $10 drop ..
i will ask my friend to check if they have other/slower delivery options costing lesser though (the online estimate only shows 'speedy' trnfrs...
@Paparasee: opening that aramex box idea was something i DID NOT know of!
even after adding the initial setup fee of $35 to the $16.90 (shipping to new york) and $31 (shipping to Kuwait) ..the total cost STILL works out to be cheaper than the 120 that fedex and UPS are asking for
how has your experience been so far with the Aramex box? i.e. my packages/the phone wouldn't be lost in transit yea?
on another note-- my brother and I have been putting off amazon purchases SOLELY because of shipping costs .. I didn't know such a thing existed !
the_ahmadzais said:
They are cheaper here in canada
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shipping from Canada to Dubai will be equally as expensive than shipping it from USA
besides the Canadian version of the SNS is not out until March
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They'll be in Italy soon, closer than America, plus the Italian version will have 720p and a Super LCD.
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i'll not choose a SLCD it's not comparable to SAMOLED
i've played with the SLCD from the next HTC phones, and they are not lively, it lacks the vivid display of the SAMOLED
so if the buyer wants a SAMOLED display, it'll need to purchase the America version, UK version is also SAMOLED
if they don't mind the low quality of the SLCD then they can buy the Euro version with SLCD
abhilashraj said:
the massive addition causing the price to jump beyond the $650 mark is only the shipping cost @120 ... I am using fedex's/ups' online estimate tools to approximate shipping cost... I understand that the estimates wud be off by a bit vs. the actual cost... but I doubt it would be a a $50 drop ...probably a $10 drop ..
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The only reason to use UPS or FedEx is if the postal service in either the sending or receiving country is corrupt or dysfunctional. Shipping via the postal service will get your package to its destination in only a few more days and for literally half or less the cost. UPS and FedEx are ripoffs.
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@Paparasee: opening that aramex box idea was something i DID NOT know of!
even after adding the initial setup fee of $35 to the $16.90 (shipping to new york) and $31 (shipping to Kuwait) ..the total cost STILL works out to be cheaper than the 120 that fedex and UPS are asking for
how has your experience been so far with the Aramex box? i.e. my packages/the phone wouldn't be lost in transit yea?
on another note-- my brother and I have been putting off amazon purchases SOLELY because of shipping costs .. I didn't know such a thing existed !
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Experience ... well, can't tell you yet cause the package will probably reach my friends box today or tomorrow (saved $35 since my friend has one already ). But, my friend has been using his box for ages ... no problems, no lost stuff. As soon as the "stuff" hits your box, you'll get an email notifying you of movement in your box. From then on, you have a tracking number to follow up on.
Forgot to add ... it was distortedloop that advised me to "buy the extra insurance coverage" when opting to use the US postal service for shipping to NY. ... thanks again distortedloop
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Experience ... well, can't tell you yet cause the package will probably reach my friends box today or tomorrow (saved $35 since my friend has one already ). But, my friend has been using his box for ages ... no problems, no lost stuff. As soon as the "stuff" hits your box, you'll get an email notifying you of movement in your box. From then on, you have a tracking number to follow up on.
Forgot to add ... it was distortedloop that advised me to "buy the extra insurance coverage" when opting to use the US postal service for shipping to NY. ... thanks again distortedloop
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Gotcha! Cud u check ur XDA inbox once you get the phone?
I have asked a couple of questions on the Aramex service, that u'd be able to answer once you have their bill
and again . THANK YOU!
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Super Clear LCD has been confirmed, but 720p was just a mistake: some idiot thought that 720x480 is 720p, and if only one person says it, it goes around the internet in no time.
There is a possibility that 720p video recording will come to the Nexus S in the future. Some say it can be done with an update...
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I thought the Nexus S hardware had a bottleneck in the memory bus that prevented full frame rate 720p recording; at least that was the chatter last month around here.
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Experience ... well, can't tell you yet cause the package will probably reach my friends box today or tomorrow (saved $35 since my friend has one already ). But, my friend has been using his box for ages ... no problems, no lost stuff. As soon as the "stuff" hits your box, you'll get an email notifying you of movement in your box. From then on, you have a tracking number to follow up on.
Forgot to add ... it was distortedloop that advised me to "buy the extra insurance coverage" when opting to use the US postal service for shipping to NY. ... thanks again distortedloop
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@Paparasee -- any info on your fone yet?
@abhilashraj ... YEAH!!! I finally got it. My friend dozed of and forgot about the package. He finally brought it to me by about 8.30 or 9pm.
About your queries ...
a) Aramex did not add a separate box nor add anything to the box packed by friend. They just sealed it with their tape.
b) The phone was in its box and that was put into a little bigger box by the Best Buy guys when they shipped it ... I presume that all that ordered it online got it that way cause I saw a video of an unboxing of the NS and that had a similar external box.
c) Not sure about the others, but my friend said that he did put a couple of bubble packs into the box so that there would be no play area for the NS box. This did not add any weight.
d) My friend paid USD.16.90 to ship it from CA to NY (where all Aramex boxes are.
e) Aramex picks up and ships to the final destination only twice a week and hence the delay to get here.
f) Not sure who decided on the weight (whether it was re-weighed or not), but BestBuy had indicated a weight of 1.2lbs when they shipped it to my friend. He probably used the same figure when he shipped it to NY.
g) Aramex used the same figure when they shipped it to Kuwait.
h) Per the Aramex calculator, I was to be charged KD.5.80 for the 1.2Lbs. They charged me 6.800. According to the guy that delivered, if the weight was 1.1Lbs, the charge would only have been KD.4.25/-. That again is their calculator rate plus 1/-.
Yes, its a big relief to have it delivered at that rate ... pretty cheap I would say. The biggest relief though is that I got it
Now for figuring out what is what on my 1st android. Will get used to it and play around in the market with free stuff before I start rooting and the like.
In the meantime, I would require a good office editor and will open a separate thread requesting user opinions!
Cheers & Good luck with your phone.
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I thought the Nexus S hardware had a bottleneck in the memory bus that prevented full frame rate 720p recording; at least that was the chatter last month around here.
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Read the entire thread
When the Nexus S was first being reviewed, some places said it had 720p as well. It's reviewers not knowing what they are talking about. The version going to Italy has the same camera.
What about Aramex?
ps : arabic letters not yet connected in 2.3
I can't believe it, so i just received my gTablet from Amazon, and this is what I received. What a SOB, I wonder how many people fall for this and don't realize that its a fake.
Any advice on how to get my money back without any hassles, because the guy is probably long gone by now.
Silo45 said:
I can't believe it, so i just received my gTablet from Amazon, and this is what I received. What a SOB, I wonder how many people fall for this and don't realize that its a fake.
Any advice on how to get my money back without any hassles, because the guy is probably long gone by now.
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WTF! This is definitely a SCAM!
Sorry you got taken.
I have always found Amazon to be extremely helpful. Anytime I call them to complain/return something, they tell me to keep it and then refund my money anyway. I have gotten a lot of free stuff over the years.
It may take you some hunting to find the phone number for Amazon customer service, but it could be well worth it. I would give it to you but I have it at work and have only called them from there.
However, the fact that the marketplace covers independent sellers means you are taking your chances in a lot of cases. I only buy from people who are enough of a partner that Amazon does the free shipping and I have never been disappointed.
Good luck!
Ouch! That sucks. I'd recommend contacting Amazon's fraud department and their customer service department and seeing about what recourse is available to you. If they're unhelpful (though I doubt they will be as I find their customer service to generally be pretty good), there's always that friendly little thing called a chargeback which tends to inspire greatness from companies to help you.
It could just be an honest mistake. If you assume that Amazon ships 100,000 items each day, and that they have an efficiency rate of 99.999 % of items correctly delivered, then at least one person is sure to receive a wrong item in the mail.
The more items you ship, the more someone is bound to get something they didn't order even with phenomenally accurate item tracking. Amazon is generally very nice about this sort of thing. If they determine that it is their mistake, and if you live outside the US, and the return cost is excessive, they generally tell you to keep the mis-shipped item and then send the correct one along free of charge in a few weeks.
That item looks like the ZT-180 I bought off Amazon some time back. And yeah it sux huevos alright.
Was there an order slip inside the box from the seller? If so & it says Viewsonic G-Tablet then I highly doubt it was a mistake.
The main problem is that it wasn't directly from amazon, it was from a third party merchant on their site. So it makes things just a little bit more complicated and time consuming. I doubt it was a honest mistake, after checking the sellers profile I saw he had like 90% negative feedback.
After calling Amazon(good idea BTW I was starting to get scared), they assured me that if the seller didn't help me out, that I would get a full refund. So I guess that's good news. I just hate to go through the hassle, and wait even longer for my tablet, I just wanna play with it already.
I hope woot! has another deal soon...
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The main problem is that it wasn't directly from amazon, it was from a third party merchant on their site. So it makes things just a little bit more complicated and time consuming. I doubt it was a honest mistake, after checking the sellers profile I saw he had like 90% negative feedback.
After calling Amazon(good idea BTW I was starting to get scared), they assured me that if the seller didn't help me out, that I would get a full refund. So I guess that's good news. I just hate to go through the hassle, and wait even longer for my tablet, I just wanna play with it already.
I hope woot! has another deal soon...
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Yeah, like I said - Amazon has NEVER done me wrong.
Here is someone who may be interested in letting theirs go for a deal http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090546
Bestwholesalegem?
I filed a claim too, but haven't gotten it in the mail yet...figured it was a scam 2 weeks after ordering so i went out and bought one anyway
Silo45 said:
I can't believe it, so i just received my gTablet from Amazon, and this is what I received. What a SOB, I wonder how many people fall for this and don't realize that its a fake.
Any advice on how to get my money back without any hassles, because the guy is probably long gone by now.
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It looks like the little Army guy had too much to drink there
Was it from bestwholesalegem? I ordered one too. Im sure it will not be an actual g tablet tho.
However i did read this today
"If the buyer has received an item that is materially different and have not received a response from you with return instructions, he or she may file a Guarantee claim for the purchase. Once a customer is reimbursed for an order via the A-to-z Guarantee, Amazon.com does not obligate that customer to return the item they received. However, you are welcome to contact your customer directly to arrange for a return of the item."
Quoted from the amazon sellers claim faq
If you can get around the whole moral issue i guess you might end up with a free chinese knock off tablet to make up for your lost time.
Or the seller will ask you to ship it back. In that case its up to you either just ignore him and keep it (which you legally can), or ask him to pay for return shipping (you can include price of gas/"handling") and ship it back. He probably wont be willing to pay the 30-40$ for shipping anyway.
Yea the seller was bestwholesalegem I see some of you were also tempted by the low price. I wonder how much much money he maid off with ...
Well I'm gonna file a claim now, and see if I get a response from the seller. I was so relived when I saw that the purchase was backed by the Amazon A-Z Guarantee.
Time to look for a new one I guess.
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I doubt it was a honest mistake, after checking the sellers profile I saw he had like 90% negative feedback.
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How does a seller with 90% negative feedback sell anything to anyone?
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How does a seller with 90% negative feedback sell anything to anyone?
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... there's one born every minute
dfin13 said:
How does a seller with 90% negative feedback sell anything to anyone?
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He was a new seller and had no feedback when he started selling. I'm a seller on Amazon as well and we all start with nothing. The price wasn't drastically better than everything else ($269.99 + shipping), and you're not taking a monetary risk buying through Amazon, only a risk of inconvenience.
i am interested to know how you claim goes
and how long it takes for it to resolve
I'm interested also as I was one of the ones that received one of those tablets. Since before I ordered from him I ask what the return policy was. He assured me I had 30 days to return the item if I was not happy with it. It came in, I opened it and immediately fired a email off to him advising him I was returning it as it was not what I ordered. He wanted to give me a credit, but I held out for the money refund. I have all the emails to back up what the conversations between us was for Amazon if I have to file a claim with them.
Good luck and hope you get your money back.
I have sold a few items on Amazon and I know thet they keep the money for a while, they don't transfer it automatically to the seller account - especially if you are new to them.
So Amazon doesn't loose nothing, you get to keep the knock-off. Just act right away, don't wait 2 weeks...
nunjabusiness said:
Sorry you got taken.
I only buy from people who are enough of a partner that Amazon does the free shipping and I have never been disappointed.
Good luck!
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This is a good policy to go by, because these items are shipped by Amazon's warehouse team and all returns go straight to Amazon. There is no need to deal with the merchant. HOWEVER as an Amazon Merchant let me warn you that there is no special approval needed to sell like this. The program is called Fulfillment by Amazon, and any brand new merchant can sign up. Also Amazon doesn't verify that the units shipped through this program are genuine.
Just thought you should know.
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He wanted to give me a credit
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This should tell you your report was nothing surprising to him.
I wouldn't bother with trying to resolve this with him, go straight to amazon and remember to leave him the appropriate feedback.
Well I figure my first post should be a big moan on the subject of eBay.
I'm currently -£750 waiting on refunds for 2 Galaxy s4 phones that I tried to buy on eBay... the first auction had a slightly dodgy feel but I figured it was worth the risk for the potential of a good deal, turns out I should have trusted my initial gut instinct, about 10 minutes after I paid for it I got a message from eBay saying the listing had been removed as the seller was a compromised account, and that I no longer have to pay for the item. Annoyingly I still have to wait till next week before I can escalate it and get my refund.
Second one seemed a legit deal, seemed like an unwanted upgrade ( I know there is a degree of risk there too but, my last phone was one and I've had no issues), legit photos... item arrived on Monday all seemed in working order, spent all day Tuesday researching which mod to go with, re-learning the whole rooting/firmware/recovery upgrade processes, loading my apps, configuring them all etc , Micro-sim arrived Wednesday, but for whatever reason wouldn't register on the mobile network so I went to the carrier's shop.... I'm sure you all know where this is going, the phone's IMEI is on the blacklist, so I've had to spend the last few hours convincing the seller to refund me, of course I now have to send it back at my own expense and it probably won't arrive till Monday at which point I have to trust he'll refund me in a timely fashion, or I'll have to escalate again..... argh, what a head ache!
I must confess before all this I didn't know about all these possible pitfalls, I wish eBay had some more upfront guidance on risks of the phones being sold being blacklisted, I didn't even know such a list existed, ah well live and learn I guess.
For the limited time I had the phone I was loving it for it's none call related features, I'll just have to buy my next one from a legit source and hope for 3rd time lucky!
Anyhow, hi, hopefully my future posts will be more positive.
Feel sorry for you there buddy... I got mine too from a reseller, but we met upfront. Its been 10 weeks now and my s4 is still kicking. Its really a lot better if you're getting an expensive piece of hardware from a legit source...
tonyr80 said:
Well I figure my first post should be a big moan on the subject of eBay.
I'm currently -£750 waiting on refunds for 2 Galaxy s4 phones that I tried to buy on eBay... the first auction had a slightly dodgy feel but I figured it was worth the risk for the potential of a good deal, turns out I should have trusted my initial gut instinct, about 10 minutes after I paid for it I got a message from eBay saying the listing had been removed as the seller was a compromised account, and that I no longer have to pay for the item. Annoyingly I still have to wait till next week before I can escalate it and get my refund.
Second one seemed a legit deal, seemed like an unwanted upgrade ( I know there is a degree of risk there too but, my last phone was one and I've had no issues), legit photos... item arrived on Monday all seemed in working order, spent all day Tuesday researching which mod to go with, re-learning the whole rooting/firmware/recovery upgrade processes, loading my apps, configuring them all etc , Micro-sim arrived Wednesday, but for whatever reason wouldn't register on the mobile network so I went to the carrier's shop.... I'm sure you all know where this is going, the phone's IMEI is on the blacklist, so I've had to spend the last few hours convincing the seller to refund me, of course I now have to send it back at my own expense and it probably won't arrive till Monday at which point I have to trust he'll refund me in a timely fashion, or I'll have to escalate again..... argh, what a head ache!
I must confess before all this I didn't know about all these possible pitfalls, I wish eBay had some more upfront guidance on risks of the phones being sold being blacklisted, I didn't even know such a list existed, ah well live and learn I guess.
For the limited time I had the phone I was loving it for it's none call related features, I'll just have to buy my next one from a legit source and hope for 3rd time lucky!
Anyhow, hi, hopefully my future posts will be more positive.
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I reccomend this seller, i ve bought 2 S3's from him, all perfect, sealed box and great shipping speed:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181145259142?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Just to top off my day my brother came round and stole my last beer when I was out for a run, fml!
Thanks for the sympathy and recommendation though guys.
Just wondered what you paid for the phones.if you don't mind. How much did you think you were saving over buying from a shop?
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Just wondered what you paid for the phones.if you don't mind. How much did you think you were saving over buying from a shop?
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The first one was £370, and was apparently a 32gb model, that should have been my first warning signal as I've since learned the 32gb model isn't for sale in the UK yet.
The second went for £380 and included a 32gb memory card, so I felt like I was getting a 70-80ish quid saving?
I feel for you! Ebay can be a great bargain grabbing experience but there are some sharks lurking about. Hope you get both your refunds and put it down to experience..... I love technology but wouldn't risk not having a backed warranty on an item as expensive as an S4.
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I feel for you! Ebay can be a great bargain grabbing experience but there are some sharks lurking about. Hope you get both your refunds and put it down to experience..... I love technology but wouldn't risk not having a backed warranty on an item as expensive as an S4.
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Yea I've found a seller who is selling for £410 and providing a valid receipt, I think that's a safe price point to purchase at.
I bought my S4 on ebay last week for £400 incl and it was supposed to be in a sealed box, fully unlocked and an unwanted upgrade.
It was still sealed, but was locked to O2 and the seller insisted that O2 had promised him it would unlock in 3-5 days.
I said I couldn't wait, unlocked it myself & asked for a £25 refund as this was what a shop would charge to unlock it for me!! He gave it to me. :victory:
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I bought my S4 on ebay last week for £400 incl and it was supposed to be in a sealed box, fully unlocked and an unwanted upgrade.
It was still sealed, but was locked to O2 and the seller insisted that O2 had promised him it would unlock in 3-5 days.
I said I couldn't wait, unlocked it myself & asked for a £25 refund as this was what a shop would charge to unlock it for me!! He gave it to me. :victory:
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Nice one.
I got my S4 from eBay too. For £370.it was on o2 as well. Got an unlock code from a website for £15 that's permanently unlocked it.
I've been very happy. And lucky in my eBay experiences.
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Up until this happened I'd had 200+ transactions without 1 issue, then 2 back to back....
My S1 was off eBay, was a bargain and has never caused me one issue.
I am however a bit wary of unwanted upgrades after learning they could be blacklisted if they end their contract prematurely, if that happens a year later I doubt there's anything you could do about it.
I was actually worried about buying a FAKE S4, i.e. something else masquerading as an S4.
Do these exist, or is it just me being paranoid?
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I was actually worried about buying a FAKE S4, i.e. something else masquerading as an S4.
Do these exist, or is it just me being paranoid?
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They exist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpU4CqyNvrs
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They exist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpU4CqyNvrs
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Having watching this clip, I was worried for a few seconds until I read the comments!
Mine has all the comments about being fake...no logo, yellow camera....instead the "fake" is the international version! :laugh:
You just have to see if the savings you are getting are more than the risk involved
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I have wondered about Amazon market sales, whether it is more reliable/secure a method of obtaining a good deal, I wonder does anyone on here have any experience of it?
tonyr80 said:
I have wondered about Amazon market sales, whether it is more reliable/secure a method of obtaining a good deal, I wonder does anyone on here have any experience of it?
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Generally Amazon is more trustworthy than eBay, especially if it says 'fulfilled by amazon' or it's sold by official stores (AnkerOfficial and stuff like that) - you can tell if they have a very high rating and their descriptions are written fluently (you should be able to tell between the chinese/whatever sellers and official stores).
BUT, there are many fakes on Amazon too.
Feel sorry for you buddy. I got mine from a website called Kogan. It costed me 689 AU dollars including shipping fee. It is quite cheap and it arrived a week after i paid. More importantly, it is not second handed or reselling product.
i too purchased an s3 that was an unwanted phone, i had a gut feeling it was dodgy but thought ebay would protect me if it was dodgy
how wrong was i
phone never sent, money gone
all ebay could do was email them as i payed by bank deposit. even police online fraud cant force them to pay back the money and a bank tranfser reversal doesnt work if they deny it
2 months on still trying for refund while there still buying stuff
ended up buying an S4 I9505 off kogan for $620 inc 32gm micro sd and freight couldnt justify paying $460 for an S3 when the S4 was going for that price
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i too purchased an s3 that was an unwanted phone, i had a gut feeling it was dodgy but thought ebay would protect me if it was dodgy
how wrong was i
phone never sent, money gone
all ebay could do was email them as i payed by bank deposit. even police online fraud cant force them to pay back the money and a bank tranfser reversal doesnt work if they deny it
2 months on still trying for refund while there still buying stuff
ended up buying an S4 I9505 off kogan for $620 inc 32gm micro sd and freight couldnt justify paying $460 for an S3 when the S4 was going for that price
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Yea, PayPal payment protection is a must on eBay, I'd never trust a transaction without it really.
As it is I gave eBay another go as I spotted a deal that looked legit and unlikely to be a bad phone, got myself a new i19505, sealed box and with a receipt, £360. Pretty happy with that! Also got my money back from the 2 other bad deals, yay.
This post is in regards to if you're in the US and ordering from Essential from the pre-registration.
Black vs White? Only Black is shipping in the next week. White is a "few weeks" out still. Who knows about Ocean Depth and others. (As of now, matte white isn't even promised to ever be available even after the big deal that Andy made of it on the reveal interview.)
There are no reviews out yet. Hopefully soon!
The 360 camera ships later. Nobody knows when later is.
Essential has a 15-day 100% money back return policy. Their Return Policy page is quite simple but there are some additional clauses in the purchase agreement that don't show up in their return policy page, notably about the theft detection mechanisms (it's unclear what this is exactly, if it's anything more than the standard Android thing that you can disable when resetting the phone).
Essential is offering a 2-yr extended warranty via Assurion that costs $99 for 2 years and has a $99 deductible for claims. Details here. Alternatively, tech_head below has shared some great info on 2-3 year Square Trade options, including a coupon for a discount.
Hopefully this info is helpful to somebody! I'm sure there's more info that can be added but these were a lot of things that weren't very obvious and took quite a bit of digging around to find. Enjoy!
Jaxidian said:
This post is in regards to if you're in the US and ordering from Essential from the pre-registration.
Black vs White? Only Black is shipping in the next week. White is a "few weeks" out still. Who knows about Ocean Depth and others. (As of now, matte white isn't even promised to ever be available even after the big deal that Andy made of it on the reveal interview.)
There are no reviews out yet. Hopefully soon!
The 360 camera ships later. Nobody knows when later is.
Essential has a 15-day 100% money back return policy. Their Return Policy page is quite simple but there are some additional clauses in the purchase agreement that don't show up in their return policy page, notably about the theft detection mechanisms (it's unclear what this is exactly, if it's anything more than the standard Android thing that you can disable when resetting the phone).
Essential is offering a 2-yr extended warranty via Assurion that costs $99 for 2 years and has a $99 deductible for claims. Details here.
Hopefully this info is helpful to somebody! I'm sure there's more info that can be added but these were a lot of things that weren't very obvious and took quite a bit of digging around to find. Enjoy!
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I'm looking at the warranty. I read the terms.
It states that they can replace it with a phone with less features *AND* if they pay you out, it's based on "market" value as deemed by them.
I think I'll pay $160 for 3 years of Square Trade. Better terms. They refund full price if no repair is possible or if they can't find an identical refurb.
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I'm looking at the warranty. I read the terms.
It states that they can replace it with a phone with less features *AND* if they pay you out, it's based on "market" value as deemed by them.
I think I'll pay $160 for 3 years of Square Trade. Better terms. They refund full price if no repair is possible or if they can't find an identical refurb.
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Do you have a link where that can be bought, or at least a starting point? I'll add it to the OP for others. I'm with you, I prefer SquareTrade, although I'm not sure I'd get a 3 yr plan. No way I'd not upgrade after 1-2 years.
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Do you have a link where that can be bought, or at least a starting point? I'll add it to the OP for others. I'm with you, I prefer SquareTrade, although I'm not sure I'd get a 3 yr plan. No way I'd not upgrade after 1-2 years.
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Just go to the Square Trade website and buy a smartphone plan.
https://www.squaretrade.com/smartphone-warranty
Two years is $149 but if you use the code Aug20, you get $20 off. I have used them for tablets, cameras and my LG watch.
I have filed a claim for different types of devices.
1. Full refund on a tablet.
2. Another tablet repaired.
3. Camera couldn't be repaired and the sent me a refurbished.
4. LG Urbane 2 got water damaged. They sent me a replacement from LG still in the box with all new accessories.
As far as 3 years, it's another $30 and you can transfer it when you buy a new phone. Better resale value.
I ask because after I waiting a week I initiated a chat with them and the box finally showed up last week. I boxed my 6T up and sent it off over the weekend. Looks like the return label generated is ground shipping which is BS since they don’t do the trade ins like Samsung (give you credit contingent on the phone being in the condition you actually described it). Since you are without your personal device that is highly inconvenient. So it won’t get to its destination until Friday this week. Then they say it may take a few days after that for someone to assess it. Now the website has the shipping times at 10 days. That is crazy. Had I known this process would’ve been this long and drawn out I wouldn’t have bothered doing it. Anyone else going thru this madness? Just seems highly inconvenient for a consumer
I sent my phone last week, it's on its way to TX- will arrive Friday. I'll update you after Ingram receives it.
curious how are you sending the phone in ahead of 2 week return policy period being over - have they changed the requirment?
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curious how are you sending the phone in ahead of 2 week return policy period being over - have they changed the requirment?
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Cash back has to be done 15 days from purchase. It's mentioned in the FAQ. Voucher is done prior to ordering a 7P. I have backup phones, so someone with 1 device would do cashback.
Hahaha no way. It's a trade in program come on now when are these ever fair to the consumer.... Oh never and this is proof. I had my 8/128 6T in perfect condition appraised by there little trade in program. They were only offering 240 for it and I already I knew it was going to be a hassle with sending it back and inspected so I just laughed really hard at their pathetic offers. I put my phone on offer up and soold it for 400 in just a couple days before the 7 pro came out and I ordered it right away. The best option any of you have if you're looking to make some money out of your current devices then you should sell them yourselves. You will deal with at least headache and hassle.
If you can sell it yourself,do,put an add on marketplace on Facebook,local buy and sell,anything.You won't get anywhere near what it's worth from trade ins,
Me personally I like to try and sell the phone myself but can agree sometimes it can be frustrating dealing with people who like to drive down the price and get the best deal off you,for a quick sale and better prices use shops like CEX in the UK and Ireland, although their prices can be dodgy too at times
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Hahaha no way. It's a trade in program come on now when are these ever fair to the consumer.... Oh never and this is proof. I had my 8/128 6T in perfect condition appraised by there little trade in program. They were only offering 240 for it and I already I knew it was going to be a hassle with sending it back and inspected so I just laughed really hard at their pathetic offers. I put my phone on offer up and soold it for 400 in just a couple days before the 7 pro came out and I ordered it right away. The best option any of you have if you're looking to make some money out of your current devices then you should sell them yourselves. You will deal with at least headache and hassle.
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The values are quite fair, if not great for other brands. Samsung, Apple, and Moto aren't too bad. For example, an iPhone SE gives 110- about half of what a 6T provides. Some phones give 600+ towards 7 Pro.
I sell things in my personal time, but I don't always the time to physically meet buyers on CL, OU, LG, etc. Online includes fees, that's why I didn't list my phone on eBay/swappa.
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The values are quite fair, if not great for other brands. Samsung, Apple, and Moto aren't too bad. For example, an iPhone SE gives 110- about half of what a 6T provides. Some phones give 600+ towards 7 Pro.
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There no where near fair. Stop defending them cause you're falling for their trade in scam. Yeah there probably are some phones that will get about 600 for phones that originally cost double that value. But those ones are still getting ripped off badly because you can easily sell your device for a price more to your liking. And if you actually read up on this you would know that no one gets the same offer from OnePlus even if they're devices are in the same conditions they simply offer some people more and some less. I've already seen it happening.
Sold my 6T on Swappa for $440 with a few extra cases. After fees and shipping, cleared about $400. Not saying selling is for everyone but I picked up the 7 pro for only $665 with student discount.
5 page topic on this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/help/one-plus-trade-program-t3930232
Good idea, trade in for under 70% of what it is worth
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I ask because after I waiting a week I initiated a chat with them and the box finally showed up last week. I boxed my 6T up and sent it off over the weekend. Looks like the return label generated is ground shipping which is BS since they don’t do the trade ins like Samsung (give you credit contingent on the phone being in the condition you actually described it). Since you are without your personal device that is highly inconvenient. So it won’t get to its destination until Friday this week. Then they say it may take a few days after that for someone to assess it. Now the website has the shipping times at 10 days. That is crazy. Had I known this process would’ve been this long and drawn out I wouldn’t have bothered doing it. Anyone else going thru this madness? Just seems highly inconvenient for a consumer
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I had a 6T with 8/256GB.
The trade in was $270. I sold it for $475.
The trade in is a joke.
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There no where near fair. Stop defending them cause you're falling for their trade in scam. Yeah there probably are some phones that will get about 600 for phones that originally cost double that value. But those ones are still getting ripped off badly because you can easily sell your device for a price more to your liking. And if you actually read up on this you would know that no one gets the same offer from OnePlus even if they're devices are in the same conditions they simply offer some people more and some less. I've already seen it happening.
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Fair has many definitions and you assumed the wrong one. I never said their values were praiseworthy nor equal to sellling. Google gave 250 for an SE, whereas it's only 110 thru OP.
Actually you'd be hard pressed to get 110 for an iPhone SE 32 after all fees (ship, marketplace, and PP)... I'm familiar with Ingram/Phobio, and know that values can fluctuate from start to end. Those that have dealt with Samsung have heard the horror stories for mint phones.
I have no horse in this race, and neither company has done anything for me. I'm simply stating how select trades are okay. Here are confirmed amounts: SE 110, G7 210, Z2 120, v30 190, S7e 140, 8+ 440.
I was an avid SWAPPA user for years. I was selling phones with little issue. Last year I bought a S9+ and sold it a few months after for $650 with no issues. A year later the guy lodges a complaint on swappa but I didnt see it because the email address my account corresponds to on there is an address I check only once and a while. So about 2 weeks had passed from the original complaint being lodged before I responded. Once i did see if I felt terrible but started making phone calls (HE and I were both on T-Mo so I called them immediately to ask why they flagged the phone as stolen even though I had bought it from Samsung directly. The lady i spoke to said that all he had to do was call them and they would lift it. I also called Samsung because my receipt didnt show the IMEI of the phone I purchased and I wanted to get detailed billing showing I legit purchased the phone. Samsung was unable to provide that info even though they verbally confirmed the IMEI was correct (a whole other issue I have). So anyway I responded back on swappa with all this detail and the original buyer wasnt really responding to the site admins and I.
What i didnt know was he lodged a complaint against me on paypal at the same time. Paypal didnt notify me (They claim they called but I had no missed calls from Paypal. I find out about a month after all of this was Paypal account had been charged back for the phone. This guy now has his money back and a perfectly fine Samsung S9+ and I am out the money and no phone. So yeah I USED to sell phones but after this ordeal.....being screwed for a phone I sold a year before......Yeah I'm done with selling phones now......not when the risk is this. I'd rather take the hit on a trade in. I'm still angry about the situation but the guy lives in Michigan and while it may be worth going to there...I dont trust myself on what I might do. I'm taking this as a lesson. **** selling used phones now.
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I sent my phone last week, it's on its way to TX- will arrive Friday. I'll update you after Ingram receives it.
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Sounds like we sent it at the same time. Delivery time is for today as well. I didn't realize it would take so long and i have international travel on the 12th planned. I can't use my work phone so I may have to have someone mail me the phone from here.
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Sold my 6T on Swappa for $440 with a few extra cases. After fees and shipping, cleared about $400. Not saying selling is for everyone but I picked up the 7 pro for only $665 with student discount.
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Hope you dont get ****ed over like I did.
I totally spaced on the cash back option. I just went ahead and bought it now...I know it puts the value I would get back out 15 days + whatever time it takes for me to get the handset in my hand but I couldn't take the chance of waiting for them. I'll take the cash back option after a few weeks. Still inconvenient but a bit better.