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One X or One S?

Hello, I am currently choosing between One S and One X, so I would like you to comment on some of my questions. First of all, let's talk about screen. I just had iPhone 4S, which has retina display. It is awesome, but after it, I used Omnia 7. And I see so many pixels there... It makes me sad. So can you see pixels on One S?
Second is question about real life usage. Is One S better than One X in terms of speed? I read some comments that One S is laggy in browser and some other places. Also, HTC removed some visual features from it. Like carusel effect when going between app browser and it's categories. So, One S doesn't have all the goodies that One X has?
Third is battery life. How good is battery life on One S? Would it easily last a day with 8h screen-on time? I surf a lot and play games, listen to music. So battery life is important to me.
Forth, size. I can't test them in real-life, so I have to make some decisions from comments and reviews. Is One X comfortable to use, or not? How does it compare to Galaxy Nexus, Titan and other big phones? I know that One S size would be perfect.
Fifth, the quality of materials. I just read about some strange things with One S, that it gets scratched and etc. I want to buy black/red version. Will I be affected with this thing?
Sixth, please comment on both phones and give arguments why one is better than other
BTW, how about memory? I listen to a lot of music, is there any easy way to compress mp3 and not loose quality? I think that 9GB won't be enough...
I am really thankful for all of your comments and I am really waiting for an honest help Also, I am returning to Android after more than a year being without it. So help me make the right decision and not be disappointed with it Thank you guys!

I'm currently in a very similar situation as you. When I saw One X & One S after release during MWC I planned to get One X, because it looked like a better device for me.
My opinion changed after first negative feedback from One X early adopters, who noticed many bugs & defects, such as UI & browser lags, screen glitches, build quality issues and so on, there are many threads about that kind of problems in One X section.
After that I focused on One S, which appeared to be much faster thanks to 28 nm Krait CPU, which easily outperforms Tegra3 in day-to-day operations. One S also has better build quality, especailly the black/red one, with MAO. Polycarbonate may be fine, but for me nothing beats metal unibody, when it comes to build quality of a smartphone.
One S is also smaller which is an advantege for me. I don't have small hands, but I want to be able to use my smartphone comfortably with one hand.
I prefer LCD to AMOLED, but I could live with One S's qHD SAMOLED, it's not a deal breaker. Also I do not notice Pentile on my Galaxy S, so I guess I won't notice it on One S.
When it comes to memory more is always better. 10 GB may be too much for some, but for others it will be too little.
Tegra 3 SoC is also very closed-sourced, so it's much harder to work with for devs, than Qualcomm SoC's.

I prefer S (dont have one yet, getting when avaible)
1. I dont know about pixels, Im moving from HTC Tattoo, so I probably dont have problems (I might have, if I can test HTC One X and S side by side @ shop)
2. S should be faster. It have smaller screen and in daily uses its faster then tegra3 (daily programs dont use quad core).
3. I dont think u can last 8h screen time...
4. I dont even know if 4.3 is good for me, but 4.7 would be to large... I would prefer same hardware in 4' size
5. S should be built with really good quality, but recent topic stated some wierd scrach... Follow that thread to see more info (search general section).
6. I prefer S because: Smaller screen, faster daily use, better battery life

One S -> One X
I bought it 4 days ago and its awesome...
Most of the guys here on xda bought the one x.. the looked at the specs and see an quad core and instantly bought it.
But they forget that the tegra 3 is totally crap! 40nm, built on a 8 years old platfrom. ( shame on you nvidia) mostly closed source and crap support by nv.
qualcom did the better job with that s4

Hey guys, HTC Sensation user here
Ive been suffering terrible signal issues with the Sensation (XE) On Vodafone UK networks. This is a well known problem, And ive had a couple replacements with the same issues so i know the device isnt faulty.
Upon research ive discovered its the Antenna design which is the culprit, So after some complaining, Ive been offered The One S or One X
Id like to know about the antenna design (google wasnt much use) Is the antenna on the One series an external antenna ? Where the antenna connectors are on the back cover ?
Id like to know a bit more before i commit to getting it, So is anyone here a Vodafone (preferably UK) User with either The one S or X ??
Could you let me know about your signal reception ? And maybe if your feeling generous Post some pictures of the Back cover for me to inspect
Also, Which would you say is the 'better' device ? I know the X is quad core, The S is Dual core, But does that make a massive difference ? Except to the battery life, which isnt the best at any given time
Thanks people, Hopefully Speak to you all again when i receive my nice new phone

I had the One X and the width of the phone annoyed me.
Now got the One S and very happy with it. Little bit more snappier I feel in menus too.

I would say the One X. It's 2012 and all highend smartphones should have HD screens.
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NardVa said:
I would say the One X. It's 2012 and all highend smartphones should have HD screens.
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I think the One X is a disappointment. The tegra 3 is just not good enough anymore for a high end modell, even if it's a quad core.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(System_on_Chip)
There is a snapdragon with a quad core coming soon, i guess htc will switch to those when they release new high end phones, that will be way better.
But it's just my humble opinion here.

Rosinior said:
I think the One X is a disappointment. The tegra 3 is just not good enough anymore for a high end modell, even if it's a quad core.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(System_on_Chip)
There is a snapdragon with a quad core coming soon, i guess htc will switch to those when they release new high end phones, that will be way better.
But it's just my humble opinion here.
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I agree with you I had the choice of both today, I chose the One S. I know the X has quad core, but more isnt always better, There are pluses and negatives to both devices but in the end the S won my vote.
Besides i can see the quad core draining battery in a heartbeat lol

Yeah, quad core is probably the last feature I am interested in from the One X. I'd take the screen, 32GB storage and NFC over the processor.
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Hey, i'm quite new here and tought I write here too. I have the same problem right now. Don't know which to choose. But here are some points for both phones. At first there is the One X:
It has a 720p 4.7" display, based on HTCs new Super-LCD 2 with IPS technology and NO Pentile-Matrix. It is said to be the best display out there. Bright and natural colours with very good black and white values. But as said it is a very big display and not fitted for every hand.
The body is out of polycarbonate which is quite durable but also not too hard. But it still is plastic and so it feels a bit cheap( correct me if I'm wrong). It surely feels cheaper than the HTC One S. But it's lighter
Let's come to the processor. The One X has the nvidia Tegra 3 Quad Core built in. It's an SoC based on the ARM Cortex A9 architecture in 40nm( for comparison: the Exynos 4210 is built on 45nm).
This isn't bad, but if you compare it to the new Krait architecture( somehow comparable to the new ARM Cortex A15 built on 28nm) it is significantly older and also slower. The Tegras GPU is an Nvidia own graphic unit which is known to be the worst of the newer GPUs( when all of them are at the same clock speed) but it should be fast enough to run most games smoothly so right now every new GPU is fast enough. A good point for the Kal-El may be the Tegra Zone, but I do not know enough of that service.
A big problem is the Quad Core unit. It's not that it's bad or doesn't work it's simply not optimized so most apps won't even fully use it. The companion core which is built into the SoC is a great power saver but it seems that it switches early to quad core( the companion core is not able to run when the quad core unit is active and the other way round) which could be seen on the battery life.
Let's come to battery life:
The One X has a 1800 mAh accu which is really good but cause of the quad core and the big display it will be consumed away very fast. So don't expect more than a day.
I don't know how much the Tegra and the display eats away so I cannot say if it will hold your 8h( display on).
I will only mention the differences of both handsets so I won't talk about the beats audio enhancement and the camera.
So let's come to the One S:
It is the smaller phone, and as you said it would be the perfect size. I think it's more comfortable to hold and also has the better feeling cause of it's unibody made out of aluminium. There are some known issues with the red black version but you can look them up in this forum.
The display is a Pentile-Matrix Super-AMOLED design with a qHD resolution( 960x540). If you compare it to the Galaxy S II Super-AMOLED-Plus non-Pentile display with a resolution of 800x480 the effective resolution is roughly the same( somehow 800*480*3 and 960*540*2 cause of the subpixel).
One problem for you may be the pixel density of the One S. When the One X has an pixel density of around 300 pixel per inch ( similar to your iPhone) the One S has one similar to your old Samsung.
The processor is something that really confuses me. It has the new Qualcomm Krait S4 SoC which seems to be a mystery.
It is built on a licensed ARMv7 architecture on 28nm called Krait. Qualcomm itself said it's comparable to a ARM Cortex A15 cpu. While that has to be seen it is clearly much faster than the Tegra 3, especially in everyday single-thread tasks. Here the Krait is extremely fast. The GPU while not the best out there is also a remarkable fast one that can compete to ARMs Mali 400 built in the Galaxy S II. You should not have problems with it.
One more thing for the Krait is it's really power efficient clocking. The Krait can clock each core independently so if it only needs one and a half it will clock the second core to half the speed. This gives it another great advantage over the Tegra which can only clock all together down.
At least the One S should hold as long as the One X despite it's smaller battery( 1650 mAh).
One other advantage may be the fact that some One S devices do have the new 3.0 Linux kernel. This is not confirmed but if it's right then the One S may be able to get USB-Hosting which means that you can use a real keyboard for example. This may arrive as an update.
So I personally prefer the One S despite the worse display and the small issues with the black and red version.
If you are interested in another phone you may also look for the Asus Padfone. Nearly the same stats as the One S but with an expendable storage and no beats audio enhancement. It may be interesting for you too.
Greetings Askannon
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I want the screen from the One X and the S4 from the One S. I guess I'm gone have to get me the One XL.
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NardVa said:
I want the screen from the One X and the S4 from the One S. I guess I'm gone have to get me the One XL.
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Hopefully the one XL comes to T-Mobile s4>tegra 3
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One s gets my vote... One x looks huge .. Uncomfortable to hold
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Midian666 said:
One S -> One X
I bought it 4 days ago and its awesome...
Most of the guys here on xda bought the one x.. the looked at the specs and see an quad core and instantly bought it.
But they forget that the tegra 3 is totally crap! 40nm, built on a 8 years old platfrom. ( shame on you nvidia) mostly closed source and crap support by nv.
qualcom did the better job with that s4
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does your phone support glonass and the front camera is 1.3mp or 0.3mp VGA? thanks inadvance

I do not know whether it has glonass or not but the one s has a vga (0.3) and the one x has a 1.3 mp front camera
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Niiceg said:
Hello, I am currently choosing between One S and One X, so I would like you to comment on some of my questions. First of all, let's talk about screen. I just had iPhone 4S, which has retina display. It is awesome, but after it, I used Omnia 7. And I see so many pixels there... It makes me sad. So can you see pixels on One S?
Second is question about real life usage. Is One S better than One X in terms of speed? I read some comments that One S is laggy in browser and some other places. Also, HTC removed some visual features from it. Like carusel effect when going between app browser and it's categories. So, One S doesn't have all the goodies that One X has?
Third is battery life. How good is battery life on One S? Would it easily last a day with 8h screen-on time? I surf a lot and play games, listen to music. So battery life is important to me.
Forth, size. I can't test them in real-life, so I have to make some decisions from comments and reviews. Is One X comfortable to use, or not? How does it compare to Galaxy Nexus, Titan and other big phones? I know that One S size would be perfect.
Fifth, the quality of materials. I just read about some strange things with One S, that it gets scratched and etc. I want to buy black/red version. Will I be affected with this thing?
Sixth, please comment on both phones and give arguments why one is better than other
BTW, how about memory? I listen to a lot of music, is there any easy way to compress mp3 and not loose quality? I think that 9GB won't be enough...
I am really thankful for all of your comments and I am really waiting for an honest help Also, I am returning to Android after more than a year being without it. So help me make the right decision and not be disappointed with it Thank you guys!
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1: Screen. It depends on you and your eyesight I'm afraid. I'm using a Nexus S as my daily driver and I didn't so much notice the pixels compared with my iPhone 4, as the screen is larger, so it's generally easier to use. I don't see the pixels on the One S; the One X does have a larger screen with a higher resolution but the difference wasn't as stark as I imagined it would be. SLCD vs AMOLED, too; AMOLED is a bit of a battery drain at times whereas the SLCD doesn't look as good at night.
2: Performance. Both felt beautifully smooth in that classic Androidy way, that is, sometimes the interface can feel a little elastic. I didn't notice any difference.
3: Battery. I didn't see eight hours of usage from my iPhone 4 unless that included a lot of music (the usage isn't screen on time). I doubt you'll see this from the One series. I'll see five hours of screen on time from my Nexus S if I restrict my data usage, especially over the 3G network. Reviews say that the One S has a small advantage, but from customers and colleagues, they're both "charge once a day" devices. No change here from almost anything else in the smartphone world, then!
4 Size. The One S feels very thin in the hand. It isn't small, it's tall, relatively narrow and oh-so-thin. It feels divine in my hands if I'm getting all arty about it. The One X, however, surprised me at how adept it felt in my hands. I was expecting it to feel a bit of a monster and it didn't. I don't like the One X's protruding lens for the camera, mind. It's quite a bump on the back.
5 Quality. Both feel good, but for me the One S takes this one. Going back to how wonderful it feels to handle, part of that is what it's made of.
6 What's better? If you need NFC, you need the One S. If you game, you're probably going to want the One X. If the One S had NFC I'd already have one, but it doesn't and I'd really like a slice of the NFC pie. If the One X didn't have that bulge on the back, I'd have one of those, but it does... So... I'm undecided.
Finally, as others have said, 9 Gb isn't so much, but it depends on your personal requirements. I don't believe the 9 Gb versus 14 Gb in my Nexus S would make any difference whatsoever as I don't use my handset as my main music device.

I think this thread has been the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I've never really cared about a pretty screen to be honest.
When the display is not a factor, the One S is just... better...

I agree, The One S is the underdog... Majority of people will think One X because its more expensive, its at the top of the One Series.... But in all fairness, The One S wins hands down for me...
Bigger isnt always better ...... ask my misses

azzledazzle said:
I agree, The One S is the underdog... Majority of people will think One X because its more expensive, its at the top of the One Series.... But in all fairness, The One S wins hands down for me...
Bigger isnt always better ...... ask my misses
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Well, thanks for all your opinions But I decided to buy One X. Why? Because I hate Omnia 7 screen, which is almost the same as One S. I see pixels, it's not sharp and etc. Also, I decided that 12GB are not enough for me.
In my opinion, HTC did a bad thing releasing One S with this poor screen and small storage.

Galaxy S3 got leaked -- crap, what to do

So the Gal S 3 jsut got leaked:
Quad core Exynos
12mp rear
2mp front
1280x720 Super AMOLED
16gb expandable to 32
This is gonna be a touch one. 4.7in screen on the S3 is gonna be big, so I'm totally on the fence now.
http://www.techshout.com/mobile-phones/2012/25/samsung-galaxy-s-3-gets-benchmarked/

I was thinking about holding out for the S3 but I think 4.7 is just too big for my tastes (and hands). The 4:3 of the One S seems about perfect for my hands. Bought one today figuring I can return it in the 15 days if the S3 turns out to be killer but I think the size alone has me sticking with the One S.
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I'm pretty sure the Exynos 4212 is a dual-core chip (that's what google says, at any rate)

DigitalMonk said:
I was thinking about holding out for the S3 but I think 4.7 is just too big for my tastes (and hands). The 4:3 of the One S seems about perfect for my hands. Bought one today figuring I can return it in the 15 days if the S3 turns out to be killer but I think the size alone has me sticking with the One S.
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Same here. I just cant imagine using a 4.7 inch device. 4 inches was perfect for me, and 4.3 is pushing it.

tehh4ck3r said:
I'm pretty sure the Exynos 4212 is a dual-core chip (that's what google says, at any rate)
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Hmmm youre onto something here. The 4212 is indeed a dual core, so something's up with the reports. But I cant imagine a dual core 1.4ghz destroying a 1.5ghz dual core S4 chip, atleast not by 2x. But I just ran Antutu and got about 7500. S3 is at 14000

Also haven't the previous GSIII leaks been of quad core chips?
Edit: also the 4212 is clocked at 1.5 ghz, why is this reporting it at 1.4?

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Seems like AnTuTu didn't know what to label it as so they called it a 4212.

Built quality on One S is similar to Nexus One and its the best on the market....S3 will be plastic probably, 12m camera means ****, display is still pentile (probably)

I took care of my dilemma by unlocking, rooting, and ROMing my One S.
I cant be convincing myself that 4.7 inches is acceptable size for me. It just isn't. And to be honest, there's only so much you can do with a phone's speed before you're at the mercy of your data connection. I can't honestly see what I'd get out of the SGS3 that I wouldn't on the One S. Sure, a better screen maybe, but even then, there's only so many pixels you can fit before it doesn't matter.

nickmv said:
I took care of my dilemma by unlocking, rooting, and ROMing my One S.
I cant be convincing myself that 4.7 inches is acceptable size for me. It just isn't. And to be honest, there's only so much you can do with a phone's speed before you're at the mercy of your data connection. I can't honestly see what I'd get out of the SGS3 that I wouldn't on the One S. Sure, a better screen maybe, but even then, there's only so many pixels you can fit before it doesn't matter.
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Agree...wait a few months and something better will come out. Rinse and repeat. "I'm waiting for the S4" supposed to be 1080p screen and 8 cores with a retractable lady friend and makes you breakfast." Don't drink the koolaid everyone....
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My motto is unless its a RUU, leaks are rumors! Lol i have saw the S3 Having 12- MP with 2Mp front, 8M with 1.3 front and the updated eynos or whatever. What will be funny is when they release it and its dual core because LTE can't handle quad core. Or when it comes out with the same specs as the one S.

ERASED

S3 will kick ass of 95% of the phones out there when released but bottom line will be how practical it will be to use on a daily basis, size and overlay wise.
S2 was the same...spec wise it was awesome but the size let it down for me, thin yes but not comfortable to hold and touch wiz overlay was rubbish compared to sense.....s3 will be the same.
If you want to get caught up in the 'specs race' then go for it but you will no doubt end up in the same boat as the one x with either poor battery and the device will not last a day or once the novilty is over realise that 4.7 inch screen is just too big for 90% of people to use.
Just my opinion.

The One X was too big just as the Samsung S3 will be too big. Looking at the One X section it didn't bother many people so I guess its going to do very well.
At the end of the day the One S is just the right size for me, I experience no lag and I don't really know when I'm going to use all the power as is?

Super Super Battery
I played with it today to test it out (im with sprint so i have to resort to the beautiful Evo LTE, damn) and wow!. Camera is awesome and best of all it had 27% battery after 1d 16h! WTF! wow. Cant wait to get mine where I can turn off the 4g! Cant wait for root!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Happy with my one s. its all about the experience!

phin586 said:
Happy with my one s. its all about the experience!
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Just remember though, no community = no good ROMs. We've got 3-5 ROMs so far, but no AOSPish projects except CM9 in the works so far. The One X community is doing pretty well, although their community is in a tough position with the US AT&T version being a different architecture. Here's to hoping that a lot of dev on the Snapdragon-version One X will carry over to ours. I have a feeling it will....

nickmv said:
Just remember though, no community = no good ROMs. We've got 3-5 ROMs so far, but no AOSPish projects except CM9 in the works so far. The One X community is doing pretty well, although their community is in a tough position with the US AT&T version being a different architecture. Here's to hoping that a lot of dev on the Snapdragon-version One X will carry over to ours. I have a feeling it will....
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The one S has been out for a while, but remember its not a flagship phone, so it may take a while for it to pick just as it has done other phones. It just came out in the USA so I would expect it to pick up soon. The desire had the same issue but they got dev. We also have 4 AOSP projects not 1.

DigitalMonk said:
I was thinking about holding out for the S3 but I think 4.7 is just too big for my tastes (and hands). The 4:3 of the One S seems about perfect for my hands. Bought one today figuring I can return it in the 15 days if the S3 turns out to be killer but I think the size alone has me sticking with the One S.
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Completely seconded.
Hehe. So, I am not the only one using that tactic.

Switch from s3 one s to one x, is it worth the trouble?

The next week I will be getting one x to replace my actual one s
With one s processor by selling the latter, are there any cons?
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Hey there!
Well it depends. The One X is a real upgrade if you own an One S with S3 CPU. The S3 CPU has lower performance than the Tegra 3 or S4 Krait, depending on what version of One X are you getting. So, yes, there you have: better CPU, bigger/better screen. But this is an advantage only if you're willing to trade the great form factor of One S for the gigantic One X.
If you had the One S with S4 Krait CPU, i would say that you won't gain nothing but the screen if upgrading to One X.
Oh, and by the way, in any of the cases, you will loose some battery life.

S3 processor here has a massive consumption I hardly believe that one x gets worse battery. once I lost 40 percent in just two hours by using Facebook messenger and 70 percent brightness on the one s
I saw that the camera is the same, why would equip your top product with the same camera of a lower spec phone?
Anyway I am really bothered by pixels visibility on htc one s so I think it will be a trade for the better
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mikness360 said:
S3 processor here has a massive consumption I hardly believe that one x gets worse battery. once I lost 40 percent in just two hours by using Facebook messenger and 70 percent brightness on the one s
I saw that the camera is the same, why would equip your top product with the same camera of a lower spec phone?
Anyway I am really bothered by pixels visibility on htc one s so I think it will be a trade for the better
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Well, the decision is yours, if you want a better screen, go for it. Personally, i don't see any pixels on my device, the resolution is pretty solid for this screen size.
About the camera, well, the camera module is the same, but keep in mind that the One S has one hell of a camera. So it's not like they have equipped the One X with a lower camera, but more like they have equipped the One S with a higher end camera .
The battery drain can be related to apps running in the bg or to the kernel/rom/governors. So you might take a look into this too. Generally, the One S has a pretty good battery, outperformed only by few phones out there.
Cheers!

I suggest to you to buy the hox plus. The hos s3 is not so good as the s4.
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Big Fan of My One S. What's The One X like?

So i've been planning on getting a new phone for a while now and I love the speed of my One S. Has anybody used the One X? How fast would you say it is in comparison because I think the One S seemed faster but then again I haven't used a One X with the sense 4.1 update and I know that was a huge update for us. The phone got a hell of a lot snappier and smoother. I was planning on getting the nexus 4 but if you look at the forum for that the battery life and build quality is extremely disappointing.

sharpinator said:
So i've been planning on getting a new phone for a while now and I love the speed of my One S. Has anybody used the One X? How fast would you say it is in comparison because I think the One S seemed faster but then again I haven't used a One X with the sense 4.1 update and I know that was a huge update for us. The phone got a hell of a lot snappier and smoother. I was planning on getting the nexus 4 but if you look at the forum for that the battery life and build quality is extremely disappointing.
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Bigger, slower

el_smurfo said:
Bigger, slower
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Nice and brief lol!

Only the memory is slower, the processor is faster and the GPU is better. Other than that, it's slightly fatter and can't hold a charge for long

only advantages of the X are:
- screen
- NFC
- more storage
one S (s4):
- better CPU chipset for performance, heat and power efficiency
- faster
- aluminium uni-body
- much better battery life
- better audio
- 1080P recording is smoother
However, JB has made a huge difference to the X for audio, performance and battery life (but it still isn't as good as the S and plus chances are the S could improve even further in these areas when it gets JB)
You want to be looking at the X+ or preferably the XL if you don't need any more than 32GB of storage.

Kamilr97 said:
Only the memory is slower, the processor is faster and the GPU is better. Other than that, it's slightly fatter and can't hold a charge for long
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Cheers for the info. I'm not that interested in how good the One X hardware is because the One S is fast enough it's just I long for a phone with a hd screen that is larger than 4.3 so the One X fits my preference perfectly. I also need more storage for my music collection and the price of the One X is really good now so I want it. The only thing that lets the One S down is the screen. It's not bad but a pentile super amoled display at a qhd resolution is hardly something to boast about in late 2012. What do you guys think about the Nexus 4? I really wanted to get it but after looking at the threads there are so many design flaws with it and the battery life is supposed to be terrible. (One X battery is better)

Terminator19 said:
only advantages of the X are:
- screen
- NFC
- more storage
one S (s4):
- better CPU chipset for performance, heat and power efficiency
- faster
- aluminium uni-body
- much better battery life
- better audio
- 1080P recording is smoother
However, JB has made a huge difference to the X for audio, performance and battery life (but it still isn't as good as the S and plus chances are the S could improve even further in these areas when it gets JB)
You want to be looking at the X+ or preferably the XL if you don't need any more than 32GB of storage.
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Really informative reply thanks. May I ask why the audio on the one x isn't as good? Surely sound output through headphones is just as good as they both use the beats amp? Or do you mean mics and recording? I've just looked at the One XL and in the UK it's confusing, they sell it at a Qhd resolution and it's a compeltely different phone to the american XL. I do want the One X+ but at £470 it's really not worth it. That's an extortionate amount of money for an HTC phone and everyone knows that HTC phones lose their value incredibly quickly

sharpinator said:
Really informative reply thanks. I wasn't aware that the X had worse audio.
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No problem
Regarding the nexus 4, it looks great, however;
- camera not as good
- battery life not as good
- audio not as good (more so the loudspeaker performance)
Personally the only advantages it has over the S (that apply to me) are;
- better NLED
- better and bigger screen, although quite a few users are saying the screen looks washed out compared to other LCD based screens
- better software support and you get updates much quicker
Although there is something wrong with the software on the N4, the battery life should be much better and I am betting that a software update will improve it so it will be as good as the S if not better (S4 pro + 2100mAh + power efficient display and with stock android, which should be very well optimised thus we should be seeing much better battery life from it )

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Regarding the nexus 4, it looks great, however;
- camera not as good
- battery life not as good
- audio not as good (more so the loudspeaker performance)
Personally the only advantages it has over the S (that apply to me) are;
- better NLED
- better and bigger screen, although quite a few users are saying the screen looks washed out compared to other LCD based screens
- better software support and you get updates much quicker
Although there is something wrong with the software on the N4, the battery life should be much better and I am betting that a software update will improve it so it will be as good as the S if not better (S4 pro + 2100mAh + power efficient display and with stock android, which should be very well optimised thus we should be seeing much better battery life from it )
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Awesome. It's really rare to find people who give pros and cons on devices. If only there were more people like you! Usually it's always either Pros or Cons!

sharpinator said:
Awesome. It's really rare to find people who give pros and cons on devices. If only there were more people like you! Usually it's always either Pros or Cons!
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Thanks very much

sharpinator said:
Cheers for the info. I'm not that interested in how good the One X hardware is because the One S is fast enough it's just I long for a phone with a hd screen that is larger than 4.3 so the One X fits my preference perfectly. I also need more storage for my music collection and the price of the One X is really good now so I want it. The only thing that lets the One S down is the screen. It's not bad but a pentile super amoled display at a qhd resolution is hardly something to boast about in late 2012. What do you guys think about the Nexus 4? I really wanted to get it but after looking at the threads there are so many design flaws with it and the battery life is supposed to be terrible. (One X battery is better)
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Based on this info I'd honestly suggest the galaxy s iii
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lorddart said:
Based on this info I'd honestly suggest the galaxy s iii
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Thanks for your opinion. I actually considered the GS3 but after looking at many sites and youtube video comments the One X comes out on top and the screen is a big priority of mine and the SGS3 has an inferior screen that is no where near as bright as the One X. If I'm honest the only 2 types of phones I will ever consider at this present time are HTC phones or a nexus device.

International or North American/Australian One X?
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I own an AT&T HTC One X (One XL everywhere else) and my girlfriend owns the One S (S4). My impression? They're exactly the same aside from mine being better tuned... Which is to be expected.
My screen is definitely nicer though.
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International or North American/Australian One X?
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International model

sharpinator said:
Thanks for your opinion. I actually considered the GS3 but after looking at many sites and youtube video comments the One X comes out on top and the screen is a big priority of mine and the SGS3 has an inferior screen that is no where near as bright as the One X. If I'm honest the only 2 types of phones I will ever consider at this present time are HTC phones or a nexus device.
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No problem, only suggested the s iii cause it fit all your needs, hd screen, bigger screen, not to mention it (unlike HTC current phones and nexus) has the micro sd slot which you said storage was a big deal for ya
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International one X isn't too great compared to the dual core one
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Speaking as a hox owner and comparing it to the one s of the missus: there are a few big advantages of the one x: better and bigger screen, better sound and more storage. The better speed of the one s is not noticeble. It depends on what you find important in a phone. Never in the world would i trade my one x for a one s.
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Speaking as a hox owner and comparing it to the one s of the missus: there are a few big advantages of the one x: better and bigger screen, better sound and more storage. The better speed of the one s is not noticeble. It depends on what you find important in a phone. Never in the world would i trade my one x for a one s.
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Well I've found a good deal on the one x+ so I'll probably buy that if I get the money! Massive amount of storage less reflective screen. Better battery life. I'm drooling haha!

HTC M4(News updated on #55) finally leaked news!

News updated on #55
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_readying_720p_jb_m4_and_budget_ics_g2_for_spring-news-5462.php
4.3" 720P
2GB ram
1.2G S4 CPU(lol?)
16GB rom(still...)
13M cam f/2.0(same as M7)
720p front cam
LTE
1700mAH battery
Sense 5.0 on JB4.2
The CPU is same as One SV(down-clocked S4) but I doubt it very much because it would not make any existing One S customer to upgrade. So, I think the CPU should at least stay the same with One S(1.5G) or little faster(like 1.7G).
I think the LCD should change to SLCD2 this time instead of AMOLED Plus like One SV(4.3" SLCD2). I actually quite like AMOLED on phone because of perfect black but SLCD2(IPS) has better viewing experiences under sunlight which is more important to me. At the end, I don't care if it's still AMOLED or IPS, they both have pros and cons.
I have a high chance to get M4 because I don't want any size larger than 4.3". However, my One S is still lovely and used only 8 months.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-C5303-HuaShan-midranger-smiles-for-the-camera_id39165
I may wait Sony and see, they are also going to out 4.0" ~ 4.3" 720P LTE with ExmorRS, Qualcomm MSM8960T Dual 1.7GHz with Adreno 320 GPU(I think M4 will use 8960T). Model name: C5302, C5303, C5306 (Code name:HuaShan).

TheEndHK said:
4.3" 720P
2GB ram
1.2G S4 CPU(lol?)
16GB rom(still...)
The CPU is same as One SV(down-clocked S4) but I doubt it very much because it would not make any existing One S customer to upgrade. So, I think the CPU should at least stay the same with One S(1.5G) or little faster(like 1.7G).
I think the LCD should change to SLCD2 this time instead of AMOLED Plus like One SV(4.3" SLCD2). I actually quite like AMOLED on phone because of perfect black but SLCD2(IPS) has better viewing experiences under sunlight which is more important to me. At the end, I don't care if it's still AMOLED or IPS, they both have pros and cons.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-C5303-HuaShan-midranger-smiles-for-the-camera_id39165
I may wait Sony and see, they are also going to out 4.0" ~ 4.3" 720P LTE with ExmorRS, Qualcomm MSM8960T Dual 1.7GHz with Adreno 320 GPU(I think M4 will use 8960T). Model name: C5302, C5303, C5306 (Code name:HuaShan).
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Well I actually lover the cpu choice. Everything runs smooth on this cpu, and with a less heavy skinned Jb (sense 5) this will only improve. Every singel game runs brilliant. I don't think you will notice its downclocked on sense 5 and will bring a lot better battery life I gues.
The display in the one S is great. But when I hold it next to the One X or the SGIII or even the xperia T it really looks dreadfull. The colors and brightness seems fine but compared to these crisp screens it really falls out of the boat.
I'm wondering what the impact will be of a higher res lcd display on the 1.2ghz S4 though.
There are some Sony alternatives. Something I really like about those phones is the waterproof ones. But than again the Sony skin on these phones are just lame. All that grey bled stuff makes it really boring (and ugly), a funeral looks more cheerfull than that.
As I'm looking to replace my One S in march, my preference will still be the Xiaom MI-2.
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And I cant edit my post because my post is to short (less than 2 characters) which its obviously not... So umh.. Yes the S4 Pro quad core is a lot more powerful without sacrificing a lot of battery, but comes with a price tag. And I think this phone will be launched as a sub-high-end alternative for the M7 (like the One S was with the one X).

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Well I actually lover the cpu choice. Everything runs smooth on this cpu, and with a less heavy skinned Jb (sense 5) this will only improve. Every singel game runs brilliant. I don't think you will notice its downclocked on sense 5 and will bring a lot better battery life I gues.
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You can trick the Power Saving on in JB, it will limit both cores to 1134mhz max on One S to save battery.
yup, I spoke many times in this broad 720P is a lot better(I was own a Xperia S and that is only a suck TFT mon, not IPS). QHD resolution is really not enough for text reading though. 720P does drains more cpu power over QHD because more pixels to render on screen so it's questionable to make cpu slower while the device actually needs more cpu.
All 1080P devices go with quad-core because they need even more cpu power to render extra pixels. 8960T is just a dual core ver of 1.7G S4 but with a upgraded GPU(Adreno 320).

HTC is really slipping. Three is nothing good about this device. The one thing I hated most about this phone is the terrible memory and HTC made the same mistake again... Better off with the Samsung galaxy s4 or the next nexus device. I strongly recommend skipping any HTC device for a long time.
This is NOT an upgrade to the One S, it's a sad excuse.

Closed Source Project said:
HTC is really slipping. Three is nothing good about this device. The one thing I hated most about this phone is the terrible memory and HTC made the same mistake again... Better off with the Samsung galaxy s4 or the next nexus device. I strongly recommend skipping any HTC device for a long time.
This is NOT an upgrade to the One S, it's a sad excuse.
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Everyone has right on his own opinion, but I completely disagree with you with everything you just said.
I actually LOVE this device! the only thing i would change was the display. It shows quality all around. Incredible sound quality for both headphone and speaker, a slick (aluminum) design, great performance (was the best of its time) and a really really great camera. And although you can't fully unlock it and they released only a partial sourcecode doesn't mean its instantly trash.
Every single thing on the M4 is an upgrade for the One S, besides the CPU. And quite frankly I really don't see the use for a quadcore in a 4.3 inch phone with android 4.2. As the one S proved JB is buttery smooth on this chipset. Yes the IPS display will but its tax on the CPU, but with a lighter (and a lot lighter by the looks of the leaks) sense running on 4.2, I highly doubt you will notice it.
And yes I love the idea of the nexus serie and love the looks of stock android. But I never ever want it as a daily driver. It's just to formal and vannila for my taste. In the Gingerbread and ICS days i would have loved it because it was so much smoother than skinned phones. But JB brought a lot of chance in that, and the phone manufactures really stepped up there game with software development and drivers. Therefor a Nexus phone doesn't have any appeal for me AT ALL.

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Great! When this phone comes out, one s prices will drop!
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The specs looks quite ok... But wtf? 1.2Ghz cpu speed? WHY!? Ive downclocked my S to 1.2Ghz a few times to save battery, and the difference is very noticable in speed. The battery I save I lose right away when having to wait extra long for something to finish loading.

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The specs looks quite ok... But wtf? 1.2Ghz cpu speed? WHY!? Ive downclocked my S to 1.2Ghz a few times to save battery, and the difference is very noticable in speed. The battery I save I lose right away when having to wait extra long for something to finish loading.
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Since every other mid-range phone is running S4 1.5G now, I don't think HTC will use 1.2G on their 2013 new phone. Sony's up coming mid-range will use MSM8960T 1.7G dual, I think HTC will just follow Sony.

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Everyone has right on his own opinion, but I completely disagree with you with everything you just said.
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Hey, sorry to forget mention about Xiaom MI-2. We have many chances to use China smartphone/tablet here in Hong Kong. I've to say it depends on your usage.
They are general powerful on hardware and cheap at price because they cut the cost from software development. You have no chance to get a stock rom close to the HTC/Samsung/Sony level, don't even to think get as many updates as HTC. So, the performance totally depends by custom roms and flash rom is almost a necessary on China stuffs. I see Xiaom MI-2 got a dev broad on XDA now.
If you are going to use it with only some general apps and not a heavy usage user, the stock rom may works fine and China stuffs almost never come with google playstore and map and others google apps, you have to get root access and install them by yourself. Not sure about Xiaom MI-2.

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I think apart from the weak cpu clockspeed(hopefully they will change to something like 1.5-1.7ghz), this phone is nice. But I think I am gonna keep my one S for this year and afterwards there will be new phones as well, so no need to buy one. One S is still just fine for everything.
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Hey, sorry to forget mention about Xiaom MI-2. We have many chances to use China smartphone/tablet here in Hong Kong. I've to say it depends on your usage.
They are general powerful on hardware and cheap at price because they cut the cost from software development. You have no chance to get a stock rom close to the HTC/Samsung/Sony level, don't even to think get as many updates as HTC. So, the performance totally depends by custom roms and flash rom is almost a necessary on China stuffs. I see Xiaom MI-2 got a dev broad on XDA now.
If you are going to use it with only some general apps and not a heavy usage user, the stock rom may works fine and China stuffs almost never come with google playstore and map and others google apps, you have to get root access and install them by yourself. Not sure about Xiaom MI-2.
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Thanks for your insight. But I think the MI-2 is worth another look. It's roots in rom development (the famous MIUI rom's) which are so succesfull they started building phones there self. I actually love the software and see more future in than in sense or touchwiz UX. They have monthly updates which are based on the miui community and by the looks of the reviews and benchmarks the firmware seems very optimized (all most the speed of the nexus 4, better audio quality than most high end phones, and photo quality is on par with the iphone and sony/samsung devices).
Many people view this phone as another cheap china phone, but I think it deserves a lot more credit than that. There are reports Xiaomi will bring the MI-2 to the US market this year, and is getting a lot of support all round (did i mention Qualcomm is one of the biggest investors?).
I don't want to sounds like this is the best phone on the market or that I'm completely sure I'm going to get one, i just want to raise it out of the budget phone segment.

HTC One S is ok for the average joe but if you want to...
i have an un branded HTC ONE S, which has been good to me in terms of using custom roms/kernels without too much hassle.
rooting on the other hand was bit of a nightmare, but that was due to me not reading all that i could before i tried, which leads me to the pain in the a** S-ON and having to flash boot kernels/recoveries with ADB (which is no longer a problem with FLASH IMAGE GUI supporting our device)
also the16gb rom is a bit low...would like to have the ability to upgrade to 32
i really dont see too much of an upgrade for our device , the HTC One S is ok for the average joe but if you want to root and mess round with custom roms and kernels, choose another device to upgrade to

This is so annoying. Still using 16 GB of internal memory, and now with 13mp camera (useless) so we can only fit 10 pictures.
Also, I guarantee this is gonna be S4 Plus (not Pro) and therefore it will have the Adreno 305 GPU. The old S4 Plus which the One S has, contains an Adreno 225, which is actually a lot faster than the 305.
So take a slower GPU and pair it with a 720p screen (instead of our 540p), take away some CPU performance as well, and what do you get?
And a 13 mp camera, seriously, I thought the "megapixel race" ended ages ago. How many people actually print out billboards from pictures taken on your phone? Just focus on lens quality and aperture, leave the megapixels at 8. Hell, even 5 is more than enough, I never take pictures at more than 2 mp myself.
HTC is digging its own grave.

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This is so annoying. Still using 16 GB of internal memory, and now with 13mp camera (useless) so we can only fit 10 pictures.
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Lol, bit of an exaggeration there.......
I have had over a 1000 photos (including lots of 1080P and slow motion footage) on my S and still had 5GB left. I don't store any music on my phone so 16GB is more than enough for me and is for many others, nexus 4 16 and 8GB models as well as iphones etc. sell well enough so the ones who want 32GB+ internal and/or a SD slot are in a small minority.
Also, we have no idea yet as to what the camera lens etc. is not to mention software/driver tweaks/optimisation, so how can you judge the camera when the phone specs etc. haven't even been confirmed
Regarding the M7 camera;
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-m7-rumored-carry-43-ultrapixel-camera
So it could be the same for the M4, just the way the camera on the X and S are the same.

HTC obviously has got everything wrong if they expect people to NOT store music on a "beats" branded phone.

djsubtronic said:
This is so annoying. Still using 16 GB of internal memory, and now with 13mp camera (useless) so we can only fit 10 pictures.
Also, I guarantee this is gonna be S4 Plus (not Pro) and therefore it will have the Adreno 305 GPU. The old S4 Plus which the One S has, contains an Adreno 225, which is actually a lot faster than the 305.
So take a slower GPU and pair it with a 720p screen (instead of our 540p), take away some CPU performance as well, and what do you get?
And a 13 mp camera, seriously, I thought the "megapixel race" ended ages ago. How many people actually print out billboards from pictures taken on your phone? Just focus on lens quality and aperture, leave the megapixels at 8. Hell, even 5 is more than enough, I never take pictures at more than 2 mp myself.
HTC is digging its own grave.
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yup, both CPU/GPU will be slower than One S if it is real using the Qualcomm S4 Plus MSM8930 Dual 1.2G but I doubt that because it will happen the case on One S(S3) again, a great smartphone with slower cpu and terrible sales result.
The M7/M4 will both likely using the technology similar to Foveon X3 RGB 3CMOS on DSLR. It means 3 x 4.3M CMOS combined together to output a 13M photo, you get perfect color and white balance reproduction this time. However, low light and high ISO might be even worse because three CMOS there to share the aperture now, the photo should be darker and more noises appear.
It is absolutely a killer to Nokia Pureview808 and the upcoming Nokia Lumia 950(WP8 with Pureview808) in summer but might not be on the same boat with original One X/S and Nokia 920 which targeted at low lighting environment. I'll see how M7/M4 to handle low light with this new 3CMOS because low light is more important to me.

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If you care about low light that mufh, why don't get a dslr?
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gock said:
If you care about low light that mufh, why don't get a dslr?
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Because often when one is in low light conditions and wants to take pictures, they don't usually have their hefty DSLR kit with them. People only carry that stuff around when it's planned. If you go out for some drinks in the evening and want to take some pictures, the One S works wonders, and hence I actually really appreciate its ability to take decent pics in those scenarios without a flash.
Looks like I'll either be skipping an upgrade this year and stick with the One S, or sadly move to a different brand. Unless the M4 turns out to be different.

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Well I actually lover the cpu choice. Everything runs smooth on this cpu, and with a less heavy skinned Jb (sense 5) this will only improve. Every singel game runs brilliant. I don't think you will notice its downclocked on sense 5 and will bring a lot better battery life I gues.
The display in the one S is great. But when I hold it next to the One X or the SGIII or even the xperia T it really looks dreadfull. The colors and brightness seems fine but compared to these crisp screens it really falls out of the boat.
I'm wondering what the impact will be of a higher res lcd display on the 1.2ghz S4 though.
There are some Sony alternatives. Something I really like about those phones is the waterproof ones. But than again the Sony skin on these phones are just lame. All that grey bled stuff makes it really boring (and ugly), a funeral looks more cheerfull than that.
As I'm looking to replace my One S in march, my preference will still be the Xiaom MI-2.
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And I cant edit my post because my post is to short (less than 2 characters) which its obviously not... So umh.. Yes the S4 Pro quad core is a lot more powerful without sacrificing a lot of battery, but comes with a price tag. And I think this phone will be launched as a sub-high-end alternative for the M7 (like the One S was with the one X).
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Yes, and the lower processing speed will in fact increase the battery life too...
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Here are some photos of the M4:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_m4_appears_in_front_of_the_camera_for_the_first_time-news-5498.php
The M7 specs/design has been confirmed:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_m7_to_launch_on_march_8_in_france_priced_at_650-news-5496.php
The listing also confirms the specifications of HTC M7 to sport a 4.7" Full HD display, 1.7 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon quad-core processor along with 2GB RAM, 32 GB internal memory with microSD support, 4G, NFC, Android Jelly Bean and 2,300mAh battery
Furthermore, HTC M7 will be using a 13-megapixel camera with stacked sensor and ultrapixels for the first time and it will be interesting to see how the camera performs. M7 is also confirmed to feature the latest HTC 5.0 sense and Double HP techno Beats Audio.
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I imagine the black M7 will be similar to the black m4. M4 looks quite curvy/ergonomic and a bit thick so it looks like it will feel comfortable/nice in the hand.
By the looks of it, the speakers are on the front of the M7 too Also I am glad that they aren't going any bigger than 4.7".