Hi, I've had this phone for three months but after I heard about the ICS update which will be laggier, and because of the crazy amount of bloatware on this phone, I've decided that I want to root and get CM7.
I have a Telus ST18a Xperia Ray, Android 2.3.4, and build number 4.0.1.A.0.283.
Most of the guides I see are for 4.0.2.xxx, so I'm not sure what to do.
I know I'm not supposed to do stuff if I don't understand it, but that's how I usually learn, by making mistakes. I bricked my first iPod when I tried to jailbreak, but now I know what to do. However, with jailbreaking all you have to do is make a custom ipsw, and ifile is really easy to use to modify some games, and I have a feeling rooting is going to be more complicated.
Time to get back on topic, can anyone point to me a link that shows how to root this particular phone, and if not how to update to 4.0.2.xxxx build number?
And one last question, does Telus penalize you for rooting your phone? I think the warranty becomes void, but is that it?
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....i wanted to be sure on this, because i never saw a definitive answer.... if i root my Captivate, does it hinder at all my ability to upgrade to Froyo at a later time? i know it voids warranty and all, but that im not so concerned about, because removing su should remove all noticeable traces of a root id think..... but definitely dont want to lose my ability to upgrade whenever Samsung and AT&T get that done....
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....i wanted to be sure on this, because i never saw a definitive answer.... if i root my Captivate, does it hinder at all my ability to upgrade to Froyo at a later time? i know it voids warranty and all, but that im not so concerned about, because removing su should remove all noticeable traces of a root id think..... but definitely dont want to lose my ability to upgrade whenever Samsung and AT&T get that done....
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From all the reading I've gathered, you will be able to get Froyo update whenever Samsung releases it, but it is advised to check back here to see if the update breaks the root or not. And until you find out, you can always deny the update to Froyo on your phone.
ok, so if i root, ill still be able to upgrade to Froyo, it just might break the root? i see so many reasons around TO root, BUT dont wanna hinder Froyo when it becomes available. is there a way to REVERSE a root though, just in case i DO need to make a warranty claim or something?
You can reverse a root by using the Odin3 launcher with the built-in stock firmware that you can find elsewhere on this forum. I haven't tested it myself (Odin3 doesn't like Linux ) but from reports by others it should make your device exactly as it was when you bought it. Thus, no warranty issue, and a perfectly clean slate to upgrade from.
If you want to upgrade straight from the rooted 2.1 to 2.2 when it comes out, just wait a little bit for some people who know their stuff to post whether it goes smoothly or needs some fiddling.
I'v jailbroken itouches several times flawlessly so the concept of rooting is not new to me. I understand what has to be done and what it does for the device, positively anyway. I'v had the G2x for about 2 weeks now and i'm thinking about rooting it, but i don't want to do it without knowing all of the cons. I know i would be voiding my warranty, and that i might not get direct updates from my service provider anymore. I'v also read a lot about people rooting it without error, but for some reason after rooting the phone crashes. i took the risk of jailbreaking my itouch because i had it for 2 years already when i decided to jailbreak it, and because it's basically still just an mp3 player. This time it would be a phone which is more important to me. im also aware that gingerbread is coming out soon, so if someone could explain to me what the negatives are or at least point me in the right direction if this thread is already answered i would appreciate it.
With my phone, unrooting is easy if you know what you're doing, so I don't worry about the warranty part. The usual horror stories about rooted phones are usually due to user error. If you don't know what you're doing and don't fully read the instructions, you can end up doing some damage that is either difficult or impossible to fix. I think some people root their phones just for wireless tether, ad blocking, screenshots, or some "root only" app they see in the market. Then they decide they want to change their status bar icons or something and flash something that was not made for their phone or the stock rom... or whatever the situation may be.
My point is, if you know what you're doing you'll be fine. You should be able to go back to stock, unrooted - I'm not familiar with your phone, so I'm speaking in generalities. There are already Gingerbread roms out for many devices that haven't received official updates yet, even for phones that will never receive an official 2.3 update.
The only downside of rooting that I can think of is that you won't be able to put your phone down. Ultimately the choice is yours. If you don't want to put the time into learning, don't do it. It's a ton of fun though, I couldn't imagine not being rooted... there's so much more available for rooted phones.
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Hi all.
I am a programmer and I would like to do some Android application developing some day.
Now I have a Nokia N79, got it pretty cheap from my operator. Operator has changed his terms and now there is no way to get a cheap phone, so it seems I'll have to buy Android for a full price .
I was disappointed to find out that almost all mid-range Android phones have worse cameras than my N79. I really would like to buy something with not very large display (4" is overkill for me and I have small hands). But I just cannot find a phone which is good and small.
The other thing that bothers me is about developing and modding.
I have read on Sony Ericsson blog that SE officially supports unlocking their phones to have full access (warranty void) but there is a warning that the process is irreversible.
Now I a am a bit confused - why I cannot just use their update software and revert the phone as it was? After all, the other phones can be reverted to the original state even after rooting and s-offing and other tricks, can't they?
Also it is confusing how this rooting and updating stuff works on all the phones. If I have no root, does that mean that I cannot load a custom ROM? But how the phone vendor updates their new ROMs? Do they all the update together with the bootloader? But if they reflash also the bootloader, then why SE warns that there is no way back after unlocking?
Really confusing. Maybe there is some article or wiki about how each vendor protects their phone - wich needs hacking bootloader to get root access, which needs root access to load custom ROM, which vendor reflashes also the bootloader with their official updates and so on.
I have read that now with Android version 2.2 there is a way to install programs on flash cards even without rooting (Andorid SDK is used to modify setInstallLocation setting). Maybe there is a phone which can be rooted and reflashed without hacking its bootloader? Or maybe there are even phones which can load custom ROMs without rooting? I really do not like idea about messing with bootloader. If things go wrong with ROM, I can just upload the old one, I guess. But if bootloader goes bad, there is a good chance to get a brick.
So the main question is: which Android phone manufacturer has the most developer/modder-friendly policy and makes modding more safe?
Uhh, never mind, I was a bit confused with formulating the question, so I got everything messed up in one long mess. Actually this thread can be deleted...
I used to have an OG Droid that I rooted, but it was just following the directions on Cyanogenmod. Now I have the Samsung Admire (btw, I hate Metro PCS) and I want to root it, however it appears that no one has rooted it yet. So I figured I would learn to do it myself, but I don't know where to start. So my question is, how does one go about learning how to root a phone? What skills do I need to have, etc. Hate not having a rooted phone. Thanks for any help!
which version of Android?
Sorry. 2.3.4
build: gingerbread.eh02
before you make decision about root...please make sure that you will enjoy it..because as my experience, when you was root your phone, your journey in android has been start many problem (maybe) you will found..but for me, that's the challenge when I got try and error to make my phone just like what I want...
and please focus to learn all of tips and trick (not just in this forum) about how to root your phone..
finally, if you think all of your prepare was ready,,ROOT IT!!
sorry for my english...regards from Indonesia :shakehand
Oh I definitely want to root. My last phone was rooted (was running CM7 at time of death) and I got spoiled, haha. I'm not looking so much how to root my specific phone (as far as I know, it hasn't been safely done yet), but how to manipulate the OS's vulnerabilities to become super user myself. I guess more from the dev standpoint. Kinda hard to get across what I'm looking for I guess.
I would like to know as well. I want to root the Admire BAD. It brings a lot of Metro crapware. LOL.
Hi all
i Just got my one plus one last week
it was amazing , it was snappy , the screen is gorgeous , and the CM is plain great , albeit many apps did find unresponding oddly enough
i've had many phones in the past that are not so great x10 mini , x8 , galaxy ace, galaxy nexus
all of which are miles away when compared to the one plus
and since they are so freaking lag i decided to root them and gave them root and changed their bootloader
but from one phone to the other all of them seems to die out in about 9 months after i root them , and i don;'t know what i did wrong , most of them are dead because i fried the motherboard or something
still why would you root the one plus when it's already so fast ? i am considering rooting mine but i am really scared i might kill it
First, rooting doesn't make it faster or slower. Also, it doesn't broke the phone neither now or in 12 month time.
Second, you need root for some in depth access on your phone, or some programs like Titanium Backup may require root to work.
Third, the rule of the thumb say, if you don't need it, don't do it!
greenify, adblock, titanium more than enough reasons to root.
I go by the old saying "If you have to ask, you'll never know"
Generally anyone who's asked me if they should root their phone, or install 3rd party firmware, my answer is no. It has to be something you want to do and something you're willing to accept the risk doing. I'm a flashaholic. I flash a new rom every few days, or update existing ROM i have. I'm never content with the status quo on my phone and devices and always play. I accept the risk of running into a situation where I go to make a call, watch a movie, or open a email and my phone locking up due to running bleeding edge untested code. Mind you I can always recover from bootloader and know how so I know I won't permanently screw a phone, just until I can flash a older rom, or recover with a PC. If you have to ask, it means you're not sure about what you're getting into. If you fall into this situation I would refrain from asking others and instead read around in the 1,000's of posts in this OnePlus forum and decide for yourself.
Not that being said, root is simple. It's a more of a "Set it and forget it" type of deal, at least until a OTA update arrives. Custom roms is where the aforementioned comes into play mostly. If you want to start getting into the Flashing world with Android its the place to start. Myself I read and read after I got my Galaxy S4, first real Android phone, and went straight to CyanogenMod with it. Skipped rooting.
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Generally anyone who's asked me if they should root their phone, or install 3rd party firmware, my answer is no. It has to be something you want to do and something you're willing to accept the risk doing.
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He may not be aware of what can be accomplished with root access and find the profits interesting. He doesn't necessarily know if he wants to do if he doesn't know it exists/is possible.
I don't want to flame or anything, but since you've been around for almost 3 years, you should really know better.
Firstly, rooting does not fry your motherboard. Seriously, why would you think so?
The fact that your previous phones became slow after a short while is because you probably got them stuffed with bloatware and have not maintained your phone in a healthy way.
As to why you should root your phone,...
Well, most apps that help you maintain your phone and keep it as optimized as possible require root.
This kind of proves my previous point regarding the speed of your previous phones.
I would start reading some more and eventually you'll be able to answer your own question.
Good luck!
Well that's easy, if your not interested in using apps that need root access there's no use in rooting your device. It's nothing magic which will make your device fly or make a cup of coffee for you.
Why not?