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Question about cloned phones...

I have a friend who thinks her boyfriend may have cloned her phone. She says hes been asking about certain things that have only been talked about between sms. he works in telecommunications so has access to certain resources. Anyway, is there a way to know if the phone has been cloned? And if it has been cloned, should she get a new sim card, new phone, or both?
Thanks

[Q] Galaxy Nexus stolen, SIM card changed, able to trace back?

Dear forum,
let me just go straight to the point:
My Galaxy Nexus was stolen at work last friday. I tried to use some tracking software like Plan B but without succes, the SIM card had been changed allready.
Now here comes the part that gave me some hope.
When I went to My (Gmail) Account at the Android Market today (using my desktop), I noticed 2 things:
- First thing is that the record from the column "Carrier" has been changed from "Vodafone" to "KPN', so I think I can assume here that someone put another SIM card in it.
- Also at the column "Last Used" I see "February 13, 2012", which is yesterday (monday).
I was really wondering if there is a workaround or something to get more information (like the phone number of that SIM card?) than just the carrier of that SIM card and when it was last used?
Thanks in advance~
Anthony Elbers

During the night push a remote lock app to the device, if they haven't changed the google user login by then. Then just lock the device. If the app shows it set a screen message offering reward for return. Better still make it scream while at work tomorrow.
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ForgetfulGuru said:
During the night push a remote lock app to the device, if they haven't changed the google user login by then. Then just lock the device. If the app shows it set a screen message offering reward for return. Better still make it scream while at work tomorrow.
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The thing is, I only work at fridays and saturdays. I also think that the person is smart enought to not bring the phone to work when I'm around.
I thought maybe if I could get some more information with a workaround, I could catch the thief myself instead of waiting for him/ her to give it back (which probably isn't going to happen).

I hope you informed your managers.
You could have a look through the available apps in the market see if there is anything you can use to lock the phone remotely and or push some really nasty messages to it. If you ain't using why should they get the use of it think there may be some way of remotely wiping the phone aswell. Then at least it would be of no use to the thief anyway. Sorry I can't be of more help. I allways make sure I activate any built in phone finder and instal lookout, so never really had to deal with the issue
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Prey worked for me before.
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Android_Monsters said:
Prey worked for me before.
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Note that the phone is stolen and SIM card has been changed allready. As far as I know you need to configure Prey on the phone itself, so not really remote like Plan B.
I'm still curious if there is a workaround to get more information about the SIM card than just the "Carrier" and "Last Used"?
Like.. are those the only two things that get stored or is there more information about the SIM card that I could get without having the phone itself?

If you have the IMEI you can contact your network and ask they put a block on the phone, a lot of the time it also blocks it off other networks as well.

i think the info about the sim like its number is by far more important than map location because if you got the thief's number then you can report that number to the police and mobile network .

MrLadoodle said:
If you have the IMEI you can contact your network and ask they put a block on the phone, a lot of the time it also blocks it off other networks as well.
the_metal said:
i think the info about the sim like its number is by far more important than map location because if you got the thief's number then you can report that number to the police and mobile network .
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This is pretty much what I'm aiming for since I allready have contacted the police and gave them the IMEI of the phone. They said like something like "We'll see what we can do", but I thought there would be some workaround (yeah I'm using this word alot) to get more information of that SIM card.
I think I can assume that the column "Carrier" which is shown on the screen, is read of the SIM card?
Question is, if anything else is shown somewhere in my Gmail (since it's linked to my Galaxy Nexus) or at the Android Market or something that might be of help?

do you know that mobile carriers can identify everything to a handset with just an IMEI
i don't know what is the procedures in your country but i think you should call that carrier and ask for directions especially if you have a proof of purchase or something similar
i wish you could luck friend

the_metal said:
do you know that mobile carriers can identify everything to a handset with just an IMEI
i don't know what is the procedures in your country but i think you should call that carrier and ask for directions especially if you have a proof of purchase or something similar
i wish you could luck friend
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My question is, did you inform your carrier? Here, when that happened to my friend who wasn't too tech saavy, I called his carrier, had the phone blocked right away, and told them what network it was on via the same information that you received via email. The actually contact the manufacturer and the police and were able to track it down on their network, find the phone and press charges. That IMEI number is huge as it tells the carrier what exact tower the phone is connected to. In densely populated areas, that's 1-2km max. Cross reference the people at work that live in that area and boom. Done like dinner.

Did you try Samsung Dive website??
www.samsungdive.com

the_metal said:
do you know that mobile carriers can identify everything to a handset with just an IMEI
i don't know what is the procedures in your country but i think you should call that carrier and ask for directions especially if you have a proof of purchase or something similar
i wish you could luck friend
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onlymojo said:
My question is, did you inform your carrier? Here, when that happened to my friend who wasn't too tech saavy, I called his carrier, had the phone blocked right away, and told them what network it was on via the same information that you received via email. The actually contact the manufacturer and the police and were able to track it down on their network, find the phone and press charges. That IMEI number is huge as it tells the carrier what exact tower the phone is connected to. In densely populated areas, that's 1-2km max. Cross reference the people at work that live in that area and boom. Done like dinner.
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Yeah I know that, but I called both the police and my carrier and gave them my IMEI and asked if they could do such thing.. and both said that they can't do such a thing, ONLY if the phone has the original SIM card... I think they just don't want to help me at all.
amritpal2489 said:
Did you try Samsung Dive website??
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Tried that one. But I need to set it up on my phone first. Keep in mind that the phone is allready stolen and the SIM card has been changed.

[Q] Using a Three phone sim in a tablet blocked

I have a one-plan three sim that I have been using for ages as my unlimited portable internet access without any problems, then I put it in a tablet - still no problem. They don't mention any restriction on device use in the T&Cs. So I bought a PAYG SIM for my wife to use in her tablet. It worked for a few days then popped up with the message:
Taking your SIM card out of your mobile phone and putting it into a different device – like a dongle or tablet – isn’t what our phone plans of Add-ons were designed for.
There's no mention in the T&Cs of this but they obviously like the idea of me using it in a phone.
- - - My Questions are : How do they detect that a SIM is being used in a Tablet and not a Phone? (I'm assuming IMEI lookup or sth)
Are they going to do the same to my pay monthly SIM in my tablet?
How do I block it/reverse it if I need to (It's not in their T&Cs so it seems a little unfair)
There doesn't seem much on this when I googled it, though someone from PC Advisor had the same problem last year:
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/opinion/...-only-pay-monthly-account-from-use-with-ipad/

beeste said:
I have a one-plan three sim that I have been using for ages as my unlimited portable internet access without any problems, then I put it in a tablet - still no problem. They don't mention any restriction on device use in the T&Cs. So I bought a PAYG SIM for my wife to use in her tablet. It worked for a few days then popped up with the message:
Taking your SIM card out of your mobile phone and putting it into a different device – like a dongle or tablet – isn’t what our phone plans of Add-ons were designed for.
There's no mention in the T&Cs of this but they obviously like the idea of me using it in a phone.
- - - My Questions are : How do they detect that a SIM is being used in a Tablet and not a Phone? (I'm assuming IMEI lookup or sth)
Are they going to do the same to my pay monthly SIM in my tablet?
How do I block it/reverse it if I need to (It's not in their T&Cs so it seems a little unfair)
There doesn't seem much on this when I googled it, though someone from PC Advisor had the same problem last year:
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/opinion/...-only-pay-monthly-account-from-use-with-ipad/
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I'm interested in this too. I had an All You Can Eat data sim (PAYG) in my iPad and it worked fine for like 6 months.
That was like between just before Christmas of 2012 up to June/July 2013. I used like 30GB a month, it was EPIC!
Then, one day, everything stopped working. Just like that! And no matter what I try it's never worked again since!
I've even tried different sims in different tablets. They all work for like a day then the next day they're blocked again.
You know how there are hacks out there that enable tethering without the carrier knowing you're doing it?
Not many of them work in my experience but I have come across a couple that have, and still "do" work.
Is there a hack of some kind that can bypass this detection of a phone sim being used in an iPad?

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Quiver2014 said:
I'm interested in this too. I had an All You Can Eat data sim (PAYG) in my iPad and it worked fine for like 6 months.
That was like between just before Christmas of 2012 up to June/July 2013. I used like 30GB a month, it was EPIC!
Then, one day, everything stopped working. Just like that! And no matter what I try it's never worked again since!
I've even tried different sims in different tablets. They all work for like a day then the next day they're blocked again.
You know how there are hacks out there that enable tethering without the carrier knowing you're doing it?
Not many of them work in my experience but I have come across a couple that have, and still "do" work.
Is there a hack of some kind that can bypass this detection of a phone sim being used in an iPad?
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I got the sameproblem with giffgaff. Does no one no a solution?
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I'm curious as to a solution too.
No need to spoon feed me if you dont have the time.. Further reading links will do

still no answer to this?

Anyone got around this? Ive a feeling its browser based.

Right,... So I'm a newbie from London, England. I splurged on a new Galaxy Tab S t705 to use as my primary phone. I unfortunately found that my line carrier (3mobile) have a block that prevents using a normal voice sim card phone plan on their tablets. I have complained to no avail that its a phablet because it has a stock phone app but they will not budge. For personal reasons, I dont want to move carriers, so Im between a rock and several hard places.
I have tried every way for 4 days to get around this (and in the promise have been come a semi expert on firmware, flashing, odin, custom recovery, rooting, etc. I've soft-bricked my device several times and encountered numerous bootloops.
The end result is that I am a considerably wiser android user and will never go back to Apple or Windows after being enlightened to the world of Droid, BUT...I can't crack this sim block. How do they know I'm using a tablet and how do I get around it. There's a drink waiting for anyone who can help me and thousands of other Brits solve this riddle.
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The only info I have found is that I suspect it is browser based. As the internet seems to work fine for other things until you open a browser. Then it detects it and boom. SIM001 error.
This was on my Ipad. It was detecting both safari and chrome based sessions. So I suspect the build number of the browsers is what it reads. Of course this is all my own speculation. I ended up getting an ASDA mobile pay as you go for the rare occasions I am outside wifi with my iPad. If your tablet truly is a phone then 3 should allow you. But I appreciate you will get nowhere with there tech support. Computer says no.

The mobile service provider gets a lots of ID of your connection when you logon their network: SIM S/N, device IMEI, etc... and this is the important ID: the device. I guess they are able to identify the device as at least what kind, like phone, table, dongle, hotspot, etc... that's the only thing what they need... so my suggestion is changing the IMEI to another device to one which is on the whitelist. But I don't know how it could affect on the device...

[Q] AT&T: How do they recognize IMEI of smartphones?

I'm hoping to get a smartphone (either a Moto-G or Nexus 5) without having to pay for a data plan. Yes, I know there are dozens of topics asking whether or not this can be done; I've read everyone--that's why I'm making this new thread.
There are a lot of different things I see stated on ways to get around AT&T automatic application of expensive data-plans when they detect that you're using a smartphone. Some people have said that all you have to do is turn off 3G Data Use from the menu of the new phone BEFORE inserting a new SIM card, and then insert the old dumphone sim card and everything will work. Some people make vague allusions to changing the IMIE--to which some people claim that's illegal, and others claim AT&T or random clerks at Radio Shack will do this for you upon request. Still others claim that all you need to do is install a "data blocker" program onto the smartphone before switching SIM cards, and it will do the trick.
The basic goal seems to be "hiding" the IMEI number from AT&T.
So, my question: how does AT&T recognize the IMEI number? Will they see it only if the phone is active on their 3G/4G/LTE networks? Or do they see it "through" the normal dumbphone calling networks?
My apologies if this is a stupid question. I really don't know anything about phones are anything about non-PC electronics or software in general. Basically, I'd like a smartphone but refuse to pay an exhorbitant monthly fee for a feature I'd never use (wifi is everywhere I go), and am not in a position where I can switch carriers, and it's like I'm part of a(n evidently sizable) demographic that no one wants to market to.

If times haven't changed too much from when I tried the same thing 2 years ago, you should just be able to request that all data on your line be blocked. I would try calling them before you switch the SIM to the smartphone and ask for all data to be disabled to your line, then swap the SIM. I would also leave the data turned off on the smartphone for good measure. This is basically how I got around your same issue with AT&T, and it doesn't have to necessarily come down to illegally changing the IMEI or "hiding" the IMEI from the carrier. Eventually they'll cross-check your device and figure out it's a smartphone and add your data. But to my knowledge, the adding of the data is all automatically done by computers; so if the system sees that all data is disabled for you, it shouldn't attempt to add anything.
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Using a tablet as a phone

Hi all,
I recently purchased a Samsung Galaxy tab 4 that I intend to use as my main device with the assistance of a Bluetooth headset. I understand that there are number of applications that would allow me to both make and receive voice calls in addition to text messages. However, all of the apps I have come across assign you a new number. I would however, like to continue using the same number I have been using for years and currently hold with my AT&T cell account here in the United States. Is there any way that I can accomplish this?
Also, I was speaking to someone from AT&T who told me that I would not be able to get mobile data by simply putting the Sim card I currently have for my cell phone into a tablet with 4G LTE capability. I assume that he is completely wrong about this; but would appreciate some confirmation in this regard.
Thanks in advance for anyone who can offer me some helpful information.