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T-Mo have a data plan change?

I downloaded the "my account" applications this morning to check my usage. And something came up pretty odd.
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any know if T-Mo changed their data usage policy ?

When I bought a couple of MT4Gs in December, I moved to a 3000 minute Family plan, with "unlimited" data. So my info looks similar.

jggimi said:
When I bought a couple of MT4Gs in December, I moved to a 3000 minute Family plan, with "unlimited" data. So my info looks similar.
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Yea but t-mo "should" be throttling after 5Gb of data usages. And i haven't got any text, email, call or anything about being over that by 2Gb.
I'm just wondering if they heard the masses scream and listened.

i have unlimited data and such, and my data usage doesn't show up under my usage if I use the "my account" app... weird
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I'm using the one that was pre-loaded on the phone, not the one from the market... doesn't look like the screen shot though

The my account app is very inaccurate. Not sure about data, but it ALWAYS gets the minutes wrong.

Let me shed some light on this for you guys. Yes TMo has changed the dataplan which now include $10 for 200MB or $30 for unlimited. Now keep in mind Unlimited does not truly mean its unlimited as the soft cap is around 5GB but its not always enforced but only to those top 1% heavy user who are throttled to EDGE 128kbps until next cycle restarts.
BTW option94 the update is not real time as its periodic which consists of few sessions and thats how they post the data. As TMo sometime share towers with 3rd party for those can take up to 30days yes 30days to reflect on your bill. It even shows up on your next bill if you even used it on this bill.
HKM said:
Considering on official TMobile forum I saw 19gb/month screenshot and another 17gb/month without any TOS with standard $19.99 unlimited data plan. So IDK they make treat it case by case who knows or they don't care, did policy change? This was just 4-5months ago.
First of all thats Carriers way of making money extra from same bandwidth. Hence the whole bandwidth crunch BS? They sold the service claiming its unlimited then they couldn't define unlimited and stated is subjected to TOS for excessive use without clearly defining it. It wasn't until ComCRAP's fiasco they had to legally come out or face same fines by FCC. Now from what I read in that thread and man that was long thread like 7-8pages or something. The user used torrents, downloaded XXXX lol, did light tether but mostly bandwidth quota was hit by P2P.
P2P FTW always the reason you should have seen my FServ spec and stats my ISP wasn't very happy me hosting my own server and pulling 3.5TB TX bandwidth.
TMoUS has 5GB soft limit far as I know but what I am saying is as I had asked those folks if they were contacted by the Abuse team they told me no as they were never notified or given warning. Normally when you get passed there quota which I myself believe 19GB is high on mobile device. I don't think TMo simply enforced it, now if everyone keep doing this they will. I myself have never personally went over 2.5GB/month usually is at 250-500mb/month.
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I can attest to that-got a text from them the other day saying I was over the 5gb cap and my 4g is now throttled until the day after my billing cycle ends...lame....wish they could offer true unlimited without it affecting their network....

OptLynx said:
Let me shed some light on this for you guys. Yes TMo has changed the dataplan which now include $10 for 200MB or $30 for unlimited. Now keep in mind Unlimited does not truly mean its unlimited as the soft cap is around 5GB but its not always enforced but only to those top 1% heavy user who are throttled to EDGE 128kbps until next cycle restarts.
BTW option94 the update is not real time as its periodic which consists of few sessions and thats how they post the data. As TMo sometime share towers with 3rd party for those can take up to 30days yes 30days to reflect on your bill. It even shows up on your next bill if you even used it on this bill.
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So basically
"unless you abuse the 5Gb throttle point you really have nothing to worry about"

The soft cap is still in place.. I know, since I'm still running at 50kbps as of this morning.

neidlinger said:
So basically
"unless you abuse the 5Gb throttle point you really have nothing to worry about"
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Ya don't worry about it. This is done to target the heavy users in to switching them to plan which they will implement for the tethering, basically they are milking the cow for whats it worth lol with same service before but for higher price. Always trust the Bandwidth Guy

Anything over 5gb you are throttled, if you have a plan after 11/3/10...... prior to that it was 10gb. All carriers are coming up with phones (Iphone 4) to get you to renegotiate the contracts so they can phuc you.
You may go over 5gb and still have unthrottled speed but as I was told by a t-mobile field technician you will only be slowed when the tower is seeing high usage, ie. you will be the first to get slowed to EDGE speeds. So in my case, I love my new Mytouch 4g half the month and the rest of the time its my Mytouch 2g....... great selling point huh??
It pisses me off too because it goes back to the American way....If you had enough money to get your new phone at $500 dollars you could have kept your TRUELY unlimted data plan like the congressmen, movie stars, professional athletes, yes and even the trust fund babies...LMFAO

neidlinger said:
I downloaded the "my account" applications this morning to check my usage. And something came up pretty odd.
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any know if T-Mo changed their data usage policy ?
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at least its still better than att's $25 for 2gb

I'm hoping the government breaks them (att) up again like when we were kids. It is still a monopoly and that government apparently cared about the citizens more than the money lobbyist brought them.
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yeah i hit the data cap like 10 days in to my first month. they let me go another 2gigs before they throttled in.
and man, it was slow.
im playing it safe this month and not torrenting

I asked about it when activating streak 7 and was told that t-mobile does not throttle after 5 gigs.
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They lied, wanna see the text messages I get? LoL
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jesus2282 said:
I asked about it when activating streak 7 and was told that t-mobile does not throttle after 5 gigs.
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I thought tmo doesnt have a plan that does not throttle. Would you care to test it?

Lmfao yeah lets bust his cap and show him how bad it sux. The only plans that aren't caped are old accounts that haven't been upgraded in over 2-3 years or if you are in the "elite class" and of course tmobile dealers/select employees. There is more too I'm sure....
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I asked about it when activating streak 7 and was told that t-mobile does not throttle after 5 gigs.
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I got hit by softcap once on laptop plan during the experiment (pushed hard to pass the limit), so the softcap is real. A buddy of mine got hit a few times (he got 12-14GB) too.

The only reason I haven't been throttled is because I use Wifi at home. I'm at 2.5GB for the month but if I had service in my room that would easily double.
My phone is my main computer. As people become more dependent on mobile devices they should be increasing bandwidth limits. It would be nice to see T-Mobile increasing bandwidth as well as speeds. What good is a 42Mbps connection if it's only that fast half the time?

If I get the Inspire 4G can I keep my unlimited data plan?

So i keep hearing mixed things on being able to keep the unlimited data. Some people say they have taked to AT&T and you can keep your grandfathered plans and other things say that you can't. I currently have the unlimited plan with my Captivate and I would like to keep it if I get this phone. Can anyone provide and kind of difinitive answer with proof as to which way the scenario is really going to go?

yes: http://www.androidcentral.com/att-clarifies-their-4g-policy

Thanks a ton man, funny how this thing is kind of unfolding as we speak. There's to much he said, she said crap on here about one specific topic with no concrete eveidence. That should work though, I will be getting one on Sunday as previously planned.

Looks like internal memos are going out saying you will be forced to switch plans. Haven't seen any personally, I believe it was posted on BGR.

entropism said:
Looks like internal memos are going out saying you will be forced to switch plans. Haven't seen any personally, I believe it was posted on BGR.
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After reading the officail AT&T facebook page I think you may be wrong on that point. The attached picture pretty much answers it all in one fail swoop.
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Like I said, just reporting what I saw:
http://www.phonedog.com/2011/02/10/...rce=Rss&utm_medium=Blog&utm_campaign=PhoneDog

entropism said:
Like I said, just reporting what I saw:
http://www.phonedog.com/2011/02/10/...rce=Rss&utm_medium=Blog&utm_campaign=PhoneDog
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It has already been refuted and clarified this evening.
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-clarifies-their-4g-policy

Thank god, I was going to have to switch carriers....

I picked up two Inspires on Sunday, one for each of my lines. The salesman in the store assured me that both of my unlimited data plans would be grandfathered over to the Inspires.
This morning I had to spend about a half of an hour on the phone with customer care after receiving alert messages about using over $100 in data charges so far and needing to choose a data plan. Apparently I had no data plan whatsoever on either of my lines...customer care couldn't even figure out how the phones had gotten activated without one.
Customer care then proceeded to tell me that I could not have my unlimited lines back and needed to choose a tiered plan, and only gave in after I demanded to escalate the call to a supervisor. They said that they would reinstate the unlimited data plans after it went through some special case department for discontinued features, and that the plans would be instituted on the 02/24/11 with a back date of 02/13/11 (the day that the plans were taken off) in order to delete any data charges before the billing cycle went through.
So yeah...be careful. They most definitely are fighting to get rid of these unlimited plans and are not exactly going about it very professionally.

If you decide to have the wifi hotspot activated in the stock ROM, you will have to give up the unlimited plan in favor of a tiered plan with tethering, otherwise, you're all set.

My roommate and I each got our Inspires on launch day and I looked at the screen to make sure we were getting our unlimited data, and we do indeed have them. So yes, you will get your unlimited if you currently have it.
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JetBlk said:
My roommate and I each got our Inspires on launch day and I looked at the screen to make sure we were getting our unlimited data, and we do indeed have them. So yes, you will get your unlimited if you currently have it.
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Same here. Still on unlimited data.

acedj123 said:
If you decide to have the wifi hotspot activated in the stock ROM, you will have to give up the unlimited plan in favor of a tiered plan with tethering, otherwise, you're all set.
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Speaking of tethering, does Easy Tether work with these phones?
Thanks.

lrs421 said:
Same here. Still on unlimited data.
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I had the misfortune of losing my unlimited. They warned me in advance I might, and I saw until I signed on the electronic signature pad thing it was there, then afte I signed the computer showed it was a 4Gb plan, which he said was curious since they don't have one.
When he warned me in advance, he also said that in the fine print on the unlimited it had recently said that 5Gb is the max. The FCC forced ATT and all cell cariers to no longer have unlmiited plans, because, he said in the fine print all cariers have had some limit eventually even on unlimited plans.
Just explaining what I was told by ATT when I got my inspire.

You can definitely keep your unlimited. Unfortunately, not all employees are aware of this, or how to switch you to the Unlimited 4G data plan.
Personally, nothing was done at the store, and I was left with my 3G unlimited plan. This prevented me from using mobile data. I called AT&T to have it switched to the 4G unlimited plan. It took me 3 tries before I finally got a CSR that was able to do the switch for me. You'll know when you've got a competent CSR when they ask you for your IMEI number.
You'll likely run into some employees who say that you can't keep your unlimited plan. When this happens, don't allow them to make any changes to your account. Just simply say "thank you", hang up, and call again. Just takes a little patience.

I bought my phone on Sunday and I asked the Rep. If I was able to keep my Unlimited Data Plan and she said yes. On the papers that she gave me shows the $ 25.00 data plan, and I asked her about that, and she told me that I still have the unlimited data plan, then she showed me on her computer that I still have the $ 30.00 unlimited data plan. So far no problems at all keeping the unlimited data plan. Here is a screenshot of my plan, it was taken today.

I have my original $15 unlimited data plan. It has remained intact since getting this phone.

ButtonBoy said:
I have my original $15 unlimited data plan. It has remained intact since getting this phone.
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I am one of those $15 unlimited customers. Where did you buy the phone to keep the plan? I walked into a store today and they told me they would have to move me onto a new plan even if I purchased it without contract paying $399.99 .

Yes you can. Unfortunately, when they did my upgrade, they accidentally messed up my line and gave me the 2GB plan. I called 611 and they said they will re-add the unlimited plan back within the next 2 weeks (the reps can't do it directly, they have to submit a ticket)

I bought the TB not realizing I am not in a 4G area. Bummed.

I live in Portland, Oregon. I am surprised I am not in a 4G area. I was told that the network is ready to go, they just need to flip the switch.

Pinesal said:
I live in Portland, Oregon. I am surprised I am not in a 4G area. I was told that the network is ready to go, they just need to flip the switch.
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CS and Store personal will tell you anything to sell you a phone, I wouldn't hold my breath. It will come in time though. Hopefully the hype of "4g" wasn't the only reason you bought the phone. If it was, you should return now.

i do live in a 4G area but spend most of the week out-of-town on work, sadly in non-4G areas. i'm struggling to decide if i really want the tbolt given that i will only have true LTE access on the weekends. sometimes i feel it would be better to wait until where i am working has 4G as well or i get assigned to 4G area projects. hmm....

You still get to take advantage of the simultaneous data + voice if that sort of thing interests you, I think..

Look at the bright side, you'll be grandfather in if they decide to change to tiered data, when it does finally come to your city.

HolyGrail said:
Look at the bright side, you'll be grandfather in if they decide to change to tiered data, when it does finally come to your city.
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I thought that too, but the "grandfathering" is only good for your contract term. Please read it when you have a chance. Two VZW managers confirmed this. Will they do it (cut off unlimited-who knows?), but they can if they want to.

I live in Seattle and travel a LOT... most of my locations for routine travel are on the 4G map... Guess I'll get to compare Seattle speeds to Cincinnati next week.

rushless said:
I thought that too, but the "grandfathering" is only good for your contract term. Please read it when you have a chance. Two VZW managers confirmed this. Will they do it (cut off unlimited-who knows?), but they can if they want to.
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Bunch of bull dude. Do you think or do you know? Don't believe everything you read. I been grandfathered on my unlimited talk $45 dollar plan for 8 years. My contract runs out, but nothing changes. When I grab a new phone the reb just starts up a new contract with my grandfathered one.
Also when you're contract runs out, and you don't do anything or upgrade you're phone your plan will continue the same way also. Here old screen shot of my plan I still have.
I have another friend that has a 10 unlimited data plan, and he's had it for 6 years.
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HolyGrail said:
Bunch of bull dude. Do you think or do you know? Don't believe everything you read. I been grandfathered on my unlimited talk $45 dollar plan for 8 years. My contract runs out, but nothing changes. When I grab a new phone the reb just starts up a new contract with my grandfathered one.
Also when you're contract runs out, and you don't do anything or upgrade you're phone your plan will continue the same way also. Here old screen shot of my plan I still have.
I have another friend that has a 10 unlimited data plan, and he's had it for 6 years.
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Thats not unlimited! That is only 99,999 minutes!
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lol

The only time you lose a grandfathered plan is when you switch to something that is not the same ability in VZW system. IE: going to "Iphone data" stay on an android and you will have same plan as long as you don't change it.

Tbolt is more than just 4g
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My wife said that last night the phone indicated that it was connected to 4G for about an hour last night.
Weird huh? I guess they are testing it out? Maybe getting ready to turn it on?

I bought mine knowing I wasn't in a 4G area but this phone is awesome. I haven't even got it Activated yet and I'm loving it!

Weselers said:
The only time you lose a grandfathered plan is when you switch to something that is not the same ability in VZW system. IE: going to "Iphone data" stay on an android and you will have same plan as long as you don't change it.
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I asked about the grandfathered in today.. yes it Is true.. but once ur contract runs out .. and u get a different phone .. its done.... only way to keep it is to have the tb on the account .. sorry for the bad news but its true
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As a former Alltel/Verizon manager, I'd like to throw my two cents in. Per the letter of the contract, Verizon does have the ability to remove your unlimited data after the contract ends. With that being said, in my 6 years in the industry I have never seen it happen. We had customers on $20/mo unlimited minute plans who had originally signed on with GTE. As long as you don't initiate the change, you're fine.
The only exception (which I think was mentioned earlier), is moving to a different class of device. For example, a data plan for a feature phone won't map over to a new smartphon, etc...
Hope this helps!
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Pinesal said:
I live in Portland, Oregon. I am surprised I am not in a 4G area. I was told that the network is ready to go, they just need to flip the switch.
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where did you buy it from? I told all my customers in portland that 4g is only near the airport and is slowly expanding/being turned on. The vzw account/data manager I spoke with said you can get it 3 miles outside PDX and it is being turned on in other areas.

4g isnt even a buying point for me, I am not in an area and most likely wont get it for another 1-2 years, I will have had at least 4 new phones by then. I bought this bad boy for the potential in it. Its all great hardware and by far the best support from xda over any other company. If the G2 is putting down 100 mflops I cant wait to see what this can do once its all tuned up.

tazzpatriot said:
I asked about the grandfathered in today.. yes it Is true.. but once ur contract runs out .. and u get a different phone .. its done.... only way to keep it is to have the tb on the account .. sorry for the bad news but its true
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Untrue. I have been on 5 different devices in my 8 years. All were smart-phones. Never had to change my plan. Now that being said, what you wrote would probably true if I would have upgraded to something other then a smart-phone device.

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Untrue. I have been on 5 different devices in my 8 years. Never had to change my plan.
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Things change bro.. it never changed for me either. But they will.. wait til ur contract runs out. And they do away with unlimited. U will have to change .. only way u won't is if u keep the tb in ur line.. u will see lol
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[Q] 2GB Data plan on Infuse

Guys, I am doing research on data usage per month. I used to have the unlimited data plan until I downgraded to 200MB when I used blackberry. Now I am using infuse and I cant go back to the unlimited data plan. I am wondering if 2GB is enough for a month.
Following are things I do with my phone daily:
8am-5pm - at work with no wifi, I would like to stream slacker radio or pandora the entire 8 hours. streaming 2-3 10 minutes video. checking social networking site and always online on Meebo.
after 5pm - I use wifi all the way.
I do not know how many MB each 10 minutes video and how many MB for streaming music from radio. I know checking social networking like twitter and facebook and Meebo would not be as large as streaming media from internet.
Any thought?
Thanks.

you should take a look at this post.
Unlimited Data For Anyone! (AT&T) [IPHONE 2G REQUIRED]

I am a noob. could you guide me step by step thru the process? I greatly appreciate it.

well to start your going to need an iphone 2G the one with the silve back and black bottom.
your going to pop in your sim card and activate it thru itunes. master reset the phone if you have too.
then once you check on line and your on the iphone 2G unlimited, call and have them change you over to the 4g personal unlimtied for 30 bucks. and your set.

so any iphone 2g will do the job? would ATT question me? If I understand it right:
1. get any iphone 2g
2. master reset it (why master reset?)
3. plug my CURRENT sim card to iphone 2g
4. download itunes and install it
5. activate the iphone 2g with my the itunes
6. and I am lost...

When I make a call to ATT, would the sim card needs to be put on the Infuse or keep it in Iphone 2g?

seems you got it right. and a master reset so that the phone knows it needs to be activated.
when you call att simply say that you need to get switched over to unlimited 4g because you have the wrong plan on your line.
btw has your sim card ever been activated with a iphone before?
you should really read the first post. in that link everything you need to know is there.

I had activated iphone 3GS 1.5years ago. I upgraded my plan for 3GS and sold it and changed my plan to blackberry 9700 in the 2 weeks after I upgraded (more exact, novermber 2009). I used blackberry data plan since then til may 15th 2015. would it be a problem?
Does master reset really necessary?

i guess you havent read the post...
IT HAS TO BE A IPHONE 2G
if your sim card has been activated with an iphone before it wont work
and yes it would be neccessary. how else would you get the phone to recognize that it hasnt been activated? master reset.

"Hey guys just upgraded to Atrix liking it so far! Never had unlimited data before but couldn't justify having it without unlimited data so been researching the current loophole and just wanted to share what I found out.
1) You must have an iPhone 2G, and a sim card that has never been registered to an iPhone 2G before
2) Hard reset the iphone, put in your simcard, and register the iPhone 2G in iTunes. You will be asked to confirm you agree to $20/month unlimited 2g data + 200 text messages.
3) Check online account to see if plan went through, or call 611 and confirm.
4) Find a CSR that will change your Iphone 2g plan to unlimited smartphone personal. I tried over the phone multiple times and they kept on saying they couldn't do it since the unlimited plan didn't exist before June 2010. I was about to give up but went to a retail location and the guy did it on his computer.
5) Enjoy your unlimited data!
NOTE: Whatever you do DO NOT let them change your data plan off the iPhone data plan. If you lose that plan you need a new simcard and to start over. I think I may have had more difficulties cause I am on a business account, but it still worked!"
Ah.. I see.. I will be able to do it then since the I never register this sim card with IPHONE 2G. So, just let the sim card be in the iphone until all the process completed and switch to the Infuse, right?

i had a rather compliacted process. but yes i left the sim card in the iphone 2g until i got my atrix at the time. then just called in from that phone to have it changed over to the 4G personal unlimited

I have to use AT&T because no other carrier gives reception where I work. A 2GB per month cap for a "4G" smartphone is a F* joke. But, the 4GB (tethering) plan is $5.00/month more than the 2GB plan with 2GB of overage fees. Can't win on AT&T as a consumer. I'd be on Sprint if I could.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/artic...ome_iphone_owners_unlimited_data_option_again
this was the offical word on unlimited back in january. if you had an iphone and are still on the same phone number/contract then you should be able to get it back.
i personally think the att plans are fair. the overages are fair. and sprint cant compete with att data speeds, or coverage. also sprint phones throttle data. they advertise that they dont but they mean the network doesnt, the baseband firmware does. att wont throttle data.
sprint may be cheaper but att is much better imho.

Dani897 said:
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/artic...ome_iphone_owners_unlimited_data_option_again
this was the offical word on unlimited back in january. if you had an iphone and are still on the same phone number/contract then you should be able to get it back.
i personally think the att plans are fair. the overages are fair. and sprint cant compete with att data speeds, or coverage. also sprint phones throttle data. they advertise that they dont but they mean the network doesnt, the baseband firmware does. att wont throttle data.
sprint may be cheaper but att is much better imho.
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wow way to justify the crappy plan. I wonder how fast people would hit the pathetic 2gb limit when they launch LTE phones, its gonna be a joke, they better have 10gb limit for those plans, lol. No way people stay under 2gb with a 4g LTE phone, I cant wait to find out how many customers they loose because of this, if they don't raise their data limits for the LTE plans.

ha i thought the same when i was about to get the 2 GB cap.
then i found the thread on XDA on how to get unlimited again.
im currently going on close to 4gb

nkd said:
wow way to justify the crappy plan. I wonder how fast people would hit the pathetic 2gb limit when they launch LTE phones, its gonna be a joke, they better have 10gb limit for those plans, lol. No way people stay under 2gb with a 4g LTE phone, I cant wait to find out how many customers they loose because of this, if they don't raise their data limits for the LTE plans.
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how would faster transfer equal more data usage? i only use 500mb a month, i use it only as needed and i connect to public wifi when available. it's not that hard to manage data usage, also data usage is controlled by the user, having faster data doent mean that the phone downloads more stuff. only if you are a real internet junky should it make a bit of difference.
whatever if it's not enough for you i can accept that but i still think it is fair. there are many other things att is good for. if i went with t-mobile or sprint i would never have service, if i went with verizon my data speeds would be around 100kbs in my town. att doesnt throttle, overages are fair, try going over on data with an older verizon contract, they charge per Mb. att would need to impliment throttling to handle unlimited data plans and they arent willing to do that.
if you need 5-10 gb a month then go on sprint or verizon and tell me what your data speed is after you have downloaded 3gb that month. this is a phone, not a home internet replacement. i can deal with 2gb

Dani897 said:
how would faster transfer equal more data usage? i only use 500mb a month, i use it only as needed and i connect to public wifi when available. it's not that hard to manage data usage, also data usage is controlled by the user, having faster data doent mean that the phone downloads more stuff. only if you are a real internet junky should it make a bit of difference.
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It can actually be pretty difficult. AT&T doesn't give you the tools to do it real time and they can't even monitor it accurately according to a recent lawsuit.
Faster data = more incentive to USE it and therefore go over. The fact is, small overages come in when data speeds are increasing and becoming very useful. It's stifling and disgusting to insist a 200mb data plan for $15 is reasonable. It's ****.
there are many other things att is good for.
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Yeah....... their reliable network? Lack of dropped calls? Excellent customer service? Great treatment of android devices? Cheap prices? oh wait, no.
att would need to impliment throttling to handle unlimited data plans and they arent willing to do that.
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I thought you said speed didn't affect usage?
if you need 5-10 gb a month then go on sprint or verizon and tell me what your data speed is after you have downloaded 3gb that month. this is a phone, not a home internet replacement. i can deal with 2gb
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My data usage this month so far:
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My speed tethered to my laptop:
It's safe to say that the grass is in fact much much much greener and more comfortable on verizon. You have no chance of touching those speeds in the first place. We pay the same for data, my plan is $62/month after employee discount (FAN type thing), I never drop calls. This is consistent (and honestly a bit low, must be the ALPHA gingerbread radio i'm using).
You're also quite mistaken about verizon's data policies as you can see.
You're defending a company with terrible practices and terrible service and I don't think I can understand why.

eallan said:
It can actually be pretty difficult. AT&T doesn't give you the tools to do it real time and they can't even monitor it accurately according to a recent lawsuit.
Faster data = more incentive to USE it and therefore go over. The fact is, small overages come in when data speeds are increasing and becoming very useful. It's stifling and disgusting to insist a 200mb data plan for $15 is reasonable. It's ****.
Yeah....... their reliable network? Lack of dropped calls? Excellent customer service? Great treatment of android devices? Cheap prices? oh wait, no.
actually yes since they replaced the radios on the towers in my area i havent had a dropped call, i have had nothing but good experience with the customer service, there is no unusual treatment of android devices, verizon has been know to change search engines as well, sprint and verizon charge to tether, sprint and verizon have more useless bloat, if you really look at what you get you see they are all comaparble. att hate is a bit misguided. and my bill is no more than it would be on sprint and the customer service is better. maybe t-mobile would be great if they had better coverage but they dont.
I thought you said speed didn't affect usage?
it does when it is soo slow that it pisses you off and you give up. not the case on 3g without throttling.
My data usage this month so far:
My speed tethered to my laptop:
it is great to see you are a heavy user, but this does not represent a cross section of america, maybe att is too limited for you, im not saying it is not. but you dont represent the majority of att's customers.
It's safe to say that the grass is in fact much much much greener and more comfortable on verizon. You have no chance of touching those speeds in the first place. We pay the same for data, my plan is $62/month after employee discount (FAN type thing), I never drop calls. This is consistent (and honestly a bit low, must be the ALPHA gingerbread radio i'm using).
You're also quite mistaken about verizon's data policies as you can see.
You're defending a company with terrible practices and terrible service and I don't think I can understand why.
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verizon has ****ty data coverage in my area. i have thought about switching many times. i understand lte is superior. but i cant get it on any network except metro pcs in the ghetto of newburg. also they needed to mirror att's plans because of there reputation for being over priced. they didnt want to scare off the att customers coming over. the insurance is much more expensive and they lie in their advertising. 15% vetrans discount my ass, they advertise it with no stipulations and when you go to the store they say you need a government email, have to apply online and it can be 8%-15%. i told att about verizons discount and they gave me a military discount i wasn't even entitled to get with no pain or argument. just a photo copy of my government id card that clearly indicated i was a vetran not an active duty member.
if verizon is better for you then go for it, i dont care but with all the att hate i feel people havent looked at all the facts. sometimes att is better in one area of another. i can get 7mbps on att. on verizon i see under 1mbps on my friends phones, there is no contest there being that the billing is identical for people still on the old iphone plans

They will have to pry my unlimited data plan from my cold dead hands.
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Switched from AT&T to Straight Talk!!!

For those of you who don't like shelling out the gobs of cash to AT&T...I have the link for you!
http://www.straighttalksim.com/
I received my AT&T sim in the mail from Straight Talk along with the new APN information...and voila...I'm getting the same (if not faster) download speeds than I was with AT&T. Actually, I've been strangely getting more bars than I was w/AT&T. Not sure why...since it's the same network. Anyways...this transformed my bill from $130 per month to $45 per month for unlimited talk, text and web. I don't work for Walmart or anything...I just wanted to share some savings info with those who are interested! When they say on the website "cut your phone bill in half" they're not kidding! I wonder how Wally World can get away with sending AT&T roms...offer the same service...for half the cost? I dunno...but I'm not complaining!
Now...I doubt you'd get 4G speeds....but I've never truly had 4G speeds...so I'm not missing anything.

Thinking about doing this just to activate the inspire I have laying around with a cracked screen. Its between this, and redpocket
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Maybe the new sim gave you a better signal?
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I did this last month. Best decision I ever made. The only catch I've found is that the data isn't really unlimited, it's a use it but don't abuse it policy. I believe they will throttle you if you hog too much.
What radio are you using? I think I need a new one, mine keeps switching between 3G and H.

Been thinking of doing the same thing as soon as my contract is up.. Any activation fees or anything like that? What'd they charge for the sim?
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I have been using Straight Talk for 6months with a sim card from a Nokia E71. This is known as the old sim swap method. Works great roams and all. From everything I've researched this uses the AT&T postpaid network.
The new sim card program they have charges you $14.95 for the sim card, and they had free shipping. NO activation fees or anything else.
This is the best data speed I've gotten though it's not usually this good. I'm using the 12.56.60.25P_26.10.04.03_M radio
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Been thinking of doing this myself. But I have some worries. What happens when one day you decide to stream some video or audio and Straight Talk up and cancels your account? I would hate to lose a telephone number I have had for the last 12 years.

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Been thinking of doing this myself. But I have some worries. What happens when one day you decide to stream some video or audio and Straight Talk up and cancels your account? I would hate to lose a telephone number I have had for the last 12 years.
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Good point. Also I average 9.6gbs with att now....who knows what straighttalk would say about that every month lmao
I got your 10 char right here
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Agoattamer said:
Been thinking of doing this myself. But I have some worries. What happens when one day you decide to stream some video or audio and Straight Talk up and cancels your account? I would hate to lose a telephone number I have had for the last 12 years.
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The word is if you keep it under 2gb a month and 170mb a day you should be good. Just use 3g watchdog and monitor it. I stream stuff all the time, just be aware of how much data you are using. I've had no problems though I've never exceeded the so called limits.
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Good point. Also I average 9.6gbs with att now....who knows what straighttalk would say about that every month lmao
I got your 10 char right here
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WOW! That's a lot of data! I would think they will have to come up with some limits if they are going to cut off service because you are using too much so called "unlimited" data. Guess we'll have to wait and see once this thing gets going full bore. If you can keep your usage to 2gb a month and 170mb a day then this is a great deal! If not I wouldn't risk it at this point..

A few months ago another carrier said unlimited data was unlimited but they could make changes if they saw fit for the network. And everyone thought it meant nothing then. Straight Talk says no media streaming and only download from their network. They could turn on you tomorrow too. I see nothing in writing about 2GB.

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A few months ago another carrier said unlimited data was unlimited but they could make changes if they saw fit for the network. And everyone thought it meant nothing then. Straight Talk says no media streaming and only download from their network. They could turn on you tomorrow too. I see nothing in writing about 2GB.
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Great point...ok ill be staying with "lovely" att
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UR right nothing in writing about 2gb, but it has been good for me for the last 6 months. If you read the terms they say they can cut you off at anytime pretty much! You're right they could turn at any time. Guess it all depends on your situation, for me I'm willing to take the risk. lol

I keep my friends close (straight talk ) and my enemies even closer (AT$T).
At least the beast is predictable ....
I'll watch this thread with great interest for a while ....
Thank you for the information ....g

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I keep my friends close (straight talk ) and my enemies even closer (AT$T).
At least the beast is predictable ....
I'll watch this thread with great interest for a while ....
Thank you for the information ....g
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You have a way with words my man

I looked at Straightalk, too. Wish they had a pay as you go plan, rather than monthly, with similar discount. I like options. There are several of of these non-contract companies but not much chat about them. Thanks for starting the thread, op. I have also heard similar talk about the 2Gb. cap, so that poster didn't just make it up. It might not be in writting but it seems to be what the users are experiencing.

I have decided to go Verizion as soon as my contract is up, ATT sucks. No 4G network and I cannot even get service at my house.

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I have decided to go Verizion as soon as my contract is up, ATT sucks. No 4G network and I cannot even get service at my house.
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ATT sucks because they don't have phone service in your area? No phone carrier has service everywhere. You never should have stayed with ATT in the first place if you didn't have service. And ATT has a 4G network, at least as much as T-mobile does and as the FCC now defines it. They also have LTE which is faster than Verizon's LTE. And what does your post have to do with Straight Talk?

I too have been thinking of going to ST. I don't go over 5gb. I wonder if that is still to much for them. I don't like att as much as the next person but I do have good signal and do get 4G in my area. Has anyone found anything about the 2gb?
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Switching to ST
hi guys, just got htc inspire not long ago and flashed with Energy ROM yesterday, currently using t-mobile, switching to ST this monday!!!

Ephemeralness said:
I did this last month. Best decision I ever made. The only catch I've found is that the data isn't really unlimited, it's a use it but don't abuse it policy. I believe they will throttle you if you hog too much.
What radio are you using? I think I need a new one, mine keeps switching between 3G and H.
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For the record, AT&T's is like that too. They throttle you if you're in the top 5% of data users.