Help me find a rom? - T-Mobile LG G2x

I'd like to get some suggestions from you guys here...I'm looking to flash a new rom from Bionix...but what it comes down to is..I need one with a really good sexy RED theme.
I found a super cool theme for Weapon 2.8 ..
.but both links for the rom and theme are dead
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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flash a MIUI ROM. There's a bazillion quality themes, bound to be a handful red ones.

or the latest hellfire 2.1 rom it is a cm7 which has cm7 theme chooser, which will give you about 20 different red themes not to mention the one made for hellfire, lol. Try reading around you will get more answers to your questions... with in the the time you got these 2 answers you could have searched and got your own answer, and wouldn't have cluttered up the forum with useless topics... okay now bye bye then

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or the latest hellfire 2.1 rom it is a cm7 which has cm7 theme chooser, which will give you about 20 different red themes not to mention the one made for hellfire, lol. Try reading around you will get more answers to your questions... with in the the time you got these 2 answers you could have searched and got your own answer, and wouldn't have cluttered up the forum with useless topics... okay now bye bye then
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Actually ..within the time I received 1.5 helpful replies....I feed and changed my 3 week old son....made lunch for my kids...helped move furniture for my inlaws...made more bottles and made a nandroid and dl'd a rom I found to try with supporting apps and themes.
So don't go assuming I haven't looked around or am lazy with reading.
Priorities ...and a life ...try it.
Thank you....drive through.
Here's a cookie for helping.
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Actually ..within the time I received 1.5 helpful replies....I feed and changed my 3 week old son....made lunch for my kids...helped move furniture for my inlaws...made more bottles and made a nandroid and dl'd a rom I found to try with supporting apps and themes.
So don't go assuming I haven't looked around or am lazy with reading.
Priorities ...and a life ...try it.
Thank you....drive through.
Here's a cookie for helping.
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you've been on these forums long enough too know you were probably going to get an answer like that, lucky it was me and not the others on here... at least I answered your question and gave you a friendly heads up... you take it how you want lol.

Theres so many threads asking this same question, why not try using the search tool?
And since you have a life and priorites and such, stop flashing roms and feed your kid instead. Im pretty sure he doesn't care what color your theme is.
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So your entitled because you and only you have a life? A man answers your question and inserts an xda rule......read before posting. But your exempt under your own life worthiness?
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Apologies to all if I offended anyone. I've found what I needed and appreciate tthe assistance.
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Apologies to all if I offended anyone. I've found what I needed and appreciate tthe assistance.
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Ya I noticed that you posted in the Hellfire Phoenix thread, glad you went there it is a good reliable rom...

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What's The Most Stabled Rom For Sidekick 4g Help!

I Wannna Know what's the most stabled rom. For sidekick 4g,cause I am tired of the stock and everything I want something smoooth fast and stable and not bugggy please help me I willl so apppreciate it
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You should really search before you post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17731307
So gingerclone v2 is most stabled?
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Uniquee210 said:
So gingerclone v2 is most stabled?
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It's "stable" not "stabled" and please search before you make threads about things that have already been answered
Do you guys just like telling people to search instead of just helping? If you stop and think about it these posts aren't what drives people away, it's the people that give answers like that all the time instead of just helping someone.
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dw9906 said:
Do you guys just like telling people to search instead of just helping? If you stop and think about it these posts aren't what drives people away, it's the people that give answers like that all the time instead of just helping someone.
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Agreed!!!!
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Agreed!!!!
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But understand this this xda developers page and website is for people for questions and answers okay! It's not all about helping others its about both even and equally it just some people are lazy to just research things to find answers that's all
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dw9906 said:
Do you guys just like telling people to search instead of just helping? If you stop and think about it these posts aren't what drives people away, it's the people that give answers like that all the time instead of just helping someone.
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I am more than willing to help people, but it is a waste of time if the question has already been answered. We shouldn't have to repeat ourselves every time someone new comes on because they don't wanna search for the answers that have already been given. This is a forum, not a social network and we try to keep the threads clean from this needless clutter that makes it more difficult for people to find things because everybody wants to start a thread for every question they have instead of searching for the answers. Go look at some of the other threads and the stickies the moderators use, or better yet their sigs that clearly state "search before posting"
If it's a waste of time why even post about it telling them to search since youre just wasting more of your important time..
And you act like theres so much activity that on here that you would think people still wouldnt be able to search.
What I find so funny about these posts and especially about these posts in the sk4g forum...is that there are barely any roms to compare. Just do some research and like many others have said, learn to use the search button.
I'd reccomend anything developed by ayoteddy though. Glorious overdose and stainless touchwiz by undeadk9 are the best I've tried.
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dw9906 said:
Do you guys just like telling people to search instead of just helping? If you stop and think about it these posts aren't what drives people away, it's the people that give answers like that all the time instead of just helping someone.
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That's true.
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By the way, I use GenericGinger 2.0 on my SK4G, runs very smoothly, pretty fast and the battery life is good. You can google search it since I can't post links but I recommend it. Its been my first rom and my favorite, it never crashes and I get about 1700+ on quadrant standard.
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I've had the best experience so far with GingerClone V2. Fast and smooth, so count another vote from me! Apparently Glorious Overdose V2 is suppsed to be better but i had a few issues with it and ended up going back to GC v2. I just liked the blue theme on GO better than the green.. I've heard good things about generic ginger though so going to try that out now and I'll let you know how it goes..
Uniquee210 said:
I Wannna Know what's the most stabled rom. For sidekick 4g,cause I am tired of the stock and everything I want something smoooth fast and stable and not bugggy please help me I willl so apppreciate it
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Glorious Overdose V2 has been the best in my experience. The downloads in that thread don't work anymore though, so go here to download the ROM if you're interested.
GOv2 here is the most reliable rom i've found sofar for the much unloved SK4g.
An yes FFS use the search function in the forum for instance the captivate THS cm9 thread is over 500 pages long if you have a bug or something odd use the search function an you will find the answer 9.5-10 times Even searching in the forums saves you a massive amount of time an doesn't make you look a little on the lazy side for posting (whats XYZ on "insert phone here" ) I've had to use the search function so many times to figure out how to patch certain things or fix a botched flash. (ends Pintek rant for now)
gingerclonev2 for me mate, most stable,fast,smooth, good battery live,
quadrant - 1920/1960 contantly ...
quadrant (stock) -1220/1230
one of the best feutures is that support Outlook,full sync+push
I hope that is of any good use...
cheers
In my experience, most ROMs sacrifice stability for speed. I went back with stock KJ2 but rooted it and removed all of the bloat so that there was room for apps on internal memory.
I've tried 6 different roms for sidekick 4g, miui v3.0, glorious overdose v.2.0 glorious overdose v.5 senseis sidekick lightening rom and glorious overdose v.3.3 and by far, glorious overdose 3.3 is the best. Version 5 crashes too much with the sys phone force closing, v.2.0 contacts dissapear, but glorious overdose v3.3 is absolutly the best.
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CM6 merged is great, fast smooth. I want to try out glorious overdose 5 but the links dont work.

[Q] New guy

I'm new to the sidekick scene, what's a good rom to flash.
There is a good bunch. Touchmiuiwiz , gingerclone , clean fusion , lighting rom, smooth maximus, n etc
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xtrem88 said:
There is a good bunch. Touchmiuiwiz , gingerclone , clean fusion , lighting rom, smooth maximus, n etc
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which one do you recommand?
I can't speak for all of them as I haven't tried them all. But I can submit that there have been some ongoing crash issues with Gingerclone. I'm running Clean Fusion currently. Only things I've had an issue with is one background (that is just as likely an issue with the background), and no forming groups within your contact list, but otherwise is running great.
Touch is the next one I would try going by what little I've heard. Sorry I can't be of much help.
Really, you're best bet might be just to try them for yourself and see which one you like best, as they all look and run a little differently, though obviously much better than the stock ROM. Just make sure you get a full rooted backup before you use something, so you know you're not going to lose anything.
~ The guide Yogi and I put together has links to the main ROMs.. possibly not Lighting though.
I used. Lighting , ginger n touchmiui, I like touchmiui the best then lighting , btw ginger n touchmiui are the same rom just different colors blue vs green n theme differently
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seriously? another one of these?!?!
I see one of these like every week now
"Hey what's up? I'm new, what's a good ROM?"
You need to search before posting because this question has been asked a dozen times already.
You are cluttering up our forums with this garbage, if you wanna know what roms are good then try reading the threads on them or better yet flash them and see what you like, we only have a few
This is not facebook and we don't need you to start a new thread unless you have a legitimate reason like a question that HAS NOT beeen asked before, these threads are not wal posts and they bury the good information we have and make the forum difficult to navigate
xmeatizmurderx said:
I see one of these like every week now
"Hey what's up? I'm new, what's a good ROM?"
You need to search before posting because this question has been asked a dozen times already.
You are cluttering up our forums with this garbage, if you wanna know what roms are good then try reading the threads on them or better yet flash them and see what you like, we only have a few
This is not facebook and we don't need you to start a new thread unless you have a legitimate reason like a question that HAS NOT beeen asked before, these threads are not wal posts and they bury the good information we have and make the forum difficult to navigate
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Sorry bud.. didn't mean to step on YOUR foot.. anyway to everybody that replied back thank you very much
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Don't listen to him. Everyone (almost) here are jerks. In my experience with the roms on here, I recommend you stay on stock with root. If you insist on a custom rom then I recommend probably GingerClone. Stock is the best thing for this phone for now. Anything else has to many issues after some time using them. No offense to the developers. They do what they can.
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from the looks of it, I think the lightning rom is a clean, simple and reliable ROM
I think I'm a start deving.. shoot it won't hurt to try
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ChoctawT said:
I think I'm a start deving.. shoot it won't hurt to try
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192493
This should help get you started
Thanks man
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new to the forum

hey all, so ive been lurking around for awhile now and figured its time to join. love this site so far, been able to root and flash my G2X with ease... running HFS right now and loving it!!! wish i decided to do this earlier..
Welcome. Xda is full of knowledge
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thanks, ive noticed that, damn near everything i need ive been able to find..
cainG2x said:
hey all, so ive been lurking around for awhile now and figured its time to join. love this site so far, been able to root and flash my G2X with ease... running HFS right now and loving it!!! wish i decided to do this earlier..
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Yea this site has done wonders for my phone. i had no idea how much customizing you could do with this device. and android in general. being a new android user myself, the info contained here along with the incredible help you get from the community and AWESOME Developers is just an amazing experience. you have something to make your phone renewed everyday. welcome!
cainG2x said:
hey all, so ive been lurking around for awhile now and figured its time to join. love this site so far, been able to root and flash my G2X with ease... running HFS right now and loving it!!! wish i decided to do this earlier..
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Welcome! Glad to have you with us!
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hi! welcome!
cainG2x said:
hey all, so ive been lurking around for awhile now and figured its time to join. love this site so far, been able to root and flash my G2X with ease... running HFS right now and loving it!!! wish i decided to do this earlier..
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Great to have you on our forums, and thank you...
Wish there were more people like this one who actually read the forums and learn about their device. Help is always around when you need it of course but why spoil such a fun to learn hobby like android/g2x.
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Welcome!
Feel free to PM me if you need help with anything!
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d12unk13astard said:
Wish there were more people like this one who actually read the forums and learn about their device. Help is always around when you need it of course but why spoil such a fun to learn hobby like android/g2x.
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LOL... its always good to know how to read, unfortunatley not everyone does... cant wait to see what this phone can really do, gonna start reading up on overclocking and different kernals and what not... man i love this HFS 1.0 rom!!! boot animation is sick!
reading
We are here. I have also lurked for some time since coming over from the Galaxy pages.
I have enjoyed testing all the great ROM's and will give a shout out to Mr. Apocalypse for his Bionix, my favorite so far.
kcb
FatalityBoyZahy said:
Welcome!
Feel free to PM me if you need help with anything!
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thanks bro, will do
Glad to have you here. Good to see someone who's first post wasn't begging for help that on something that had already been answered many times and then flaming the people that told them to use the search button.
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We are here. I have also lurked for some time since coming over from the Galaxy pages.
I have enjoyed testing all the great ROM's and will give a shout out to Mr. Apocalypse for his Bionix, my favorite so far.
kcb
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ive only tried a few so far, hellfire pheonix 1.8, then 1.9, then arcee's cm9, then the first HFS alpha, then his test2, then back to HFS alpha... been going a lil overboard the past week.. lol.. just havin fun messin with all the roms.
cainG2x said:
ive only tried a few so far, hellfire pheonix 1.8, then 1.9, then arcee's cm9, then the first HFS alpha, then his test2, then back to HFS alpha... been going a lil overboard the past week.. lol.. just havin fun messin with all the roms.
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Lol I was the same my first week after starting using XDA.
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Glad to have you here. Good to see someone who's first post wasn't begging for help that on something that had already been answered many times and then flaming the people that told them to use the search button.
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lol ya i kinda like NOT feeling stupid right off the bat... plus ive seen that so much on other forums, gets kinda old after awhile, tho it is sometimes very amusing..
i was a crack flasher too until i found the perfect combination for my phone, thanks to xohellox and faux123
Its soo addicting/tempting to flash when a new rom or ics update shows up lol
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d12unk13astard said:
i was a crack flasher too until i found the perfect combination for my phone, thanks to xohellox and faux123
Its soo addicting/tempting to flash when a new rom or ics update shows up lol
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lmao.... im in that situation right now.... sk3 or stay with hellfire 1.1 till his next update. Then theres the EB ICS rom, sheeze, cant decide what to do...
Welcome fellow g2xer
Keep flashin' till ya cants flash no mo!
Or you find something you really like.
That's what's so good about this forum, the people who are willing to help. You get out, what you put in. Search first if that fails, search again! " The answer's out there"
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Looking for a ROM

Just rooted and I'm looking for a ROM WITH A GREAT GPS FIX, DECENT PERFORMANCE sorry about the caps, I'm on the phone and damn if I'm retyping anything. Is also like good battery life, any suggestions are IMMENSELY (intentional caps that time;D) appreciated! Thanks!
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I use asops exist ar31 it's ice cream an I love it smooth indpire
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mikeyst1 said:
I use asops exist ar31 it's ice cream an I love it smooth indpire
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The hit that I swapped for the inspire had mentioned a couple of ROMs and I think he's actually put a couple together, he mentioned that thics Rom he was running didn't allow for the camera to work, is that an isolated incident, has it been cleared up, or what? Also thank you for the suggestion, imma take a look at it righ' naow!
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Camera works everything works on ar31
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CM7
The best ROM I have used for your requirements if Cyanogen Mod 7 . My battery life is around 24 hours of moderate usage. I am overclocked to 1.8 gHZ and it's very smooth.
Ugh one of these threads again
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To the op before the devs close this out yet another thread with like 22 same ones that are listed in this type thread please look up this info before posting trust me before someone does not reply back.with a nicer way of saying do the research or look for the search options
My Inspire
gorealmighty said:
Just rooted and I'm looking for a ROM WITH A GREAT GPS FIX, DECENT PERFORMANCE sorry about the caps, I'm on the phone and damn if I'm retyping anything. Is also like good battery life, any suggestions are IMMENSELY (intentional caps that time;D) appreciated! Thanks!
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Look into er3bus XL iv its a great 2.3.5 GinjaBeast and 3.5 sense with beats audio. Also has a couple tweak mods to get the all blue signal thing blue battery and awesome GPS with lord kernal
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Guys thanks a bunch!
The other two guys, take a long walk down a short pier. This happens to be a Q&A forum...so technically I'm in the right. Had I posted this in say...the DEV forum I could see a little animosity. However being in the q&a forum all I see are a couple of trolls. This isn't my first rodeo, it just happens to be my first HTC.
You guys are the reason people don't want to root, god forbid they be looking for a little support from a community that does nothing but hack android software and their specific phones no less.
Let the mod take this thread out. I've gotten the information I was looking for no thanks to the trolls.
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gorealmighty said:
Guys thanks a bunch!
The other two guys, take a long walk down a short pier. This happens to be a Q&A forum...so technically I'm in the right. Had I posted this in say...the DEV forum I could see a little animosity. However being in the q&a forum all I see are a couple of trolls. This isn't my first rodeo, it just happens to be my first HTC.
You guys are the reason people don't want to root, god forbid they be looking for a little support from a community that does nothing but hack android software and their specific phones no less.
Let the mod take this thread out. I've gotten the information I was looking for no thanks to the trolls.
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While you're absolutely correct in posting this thread in the correct forum, literally everything you have asked for has been covered in numerous threads before. I'll apologize for everyone for why we get a little up front with threads like these since we see at least 2 every week. I'm glad this isn't new to you, but before you get angry please look at the rules you agreed to when you signed up for XDA. This is a dev. site first and foremost and some leg work is expected on your part. Searching is something you agreed to do before posting a new thread and if you did so you would have found every answer you needed.
Bacon, you can become the official XDA librarian. Users can request features and you will sift through the books (roms) and send them what they want!
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Bacon, you can become the official XDA librarian. Users can request features and you will sift through the books (roms) and send them what they want!
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...I hate you.
New Mods...please consider closing. We really don't need any more which roms are better type threads.
To everyone else, please just read each Rom description and try them out for yourself. Everyone will like different things.
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The majority of people's favorite GB rom?

I've had this phone for about 2 month's and been on ICS the whole time. I finally felt like trying some GB roms. What would the majority of people here say their favorite GB rom is? Right now I'm on Erik's dark Knight
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Barebones is the best imo, it has more t mobile crap removed than valhalla with a data toggle (its not buggy like valhalla) and has a screen shot function.
I am planning on switching to eriks dark knight once he adds more features
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Thanks a lot man. Anyone else?
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Thanks a lot man. Anyone else?
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I will have to say Erik's SCOM Floyd Edition (ICS themed). It was my first ROM, and I liked it very much.
Like pisher i love barebones....especially with the screenshot function,and much less bloat.
Also if you want theme....learn uot kitchen and you can work wonders .
It depends because "BEST" is subjective. What is best? Loaded with apps? Nice looking themes and smooth interface? Stripped down with no fancy candy but better battery life?
It's like asking what's your favorite car. You're going to get 1000000 different responses and justification for each of them, that makes sense to the one saying it.
Valhalla Black (either version)
Then SCOM
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SCOM because I edited that awesome start up music. I guess I do contribute more than flames every once in a while. lol
This is like the 5th time this kind of thread is made. These are the answers to get: Barebones or Valhalla Black (Raver's or FB's). Then you will get a "try them all, then decide". Eventually the thread will get smarta$$ replies like "no ROM is better than the other".
So let's search before posting and quit the crap. Try the ROMs you find. It shouldn't take you more than a few hours.
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SCOM because I edited that awesome start up music. I guess I do contribute more than flames every once in a while. lol
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Ok question though I'm on dark Knight now. I tried to install scom. I wipe everything then the aroma installer. It Opens up it has the next button but it won't let me click on it
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I mean the aroma installer opens but then It wont let me move any further
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So let's search before posting and quit the crap. Try the ROMs you find. It shouldn't take you more than a few hours.
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LOL. You going for forum MOD now? If not just click the report button and be done with it.
armyms25 said:
Ok question though I'm on dark Knight now. I tried to install scom. I wipe everything then the aroma installer. It Opens up it has the next button but it won't let me click on it
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Aroma can be a little finicky. Just keep tapping until it moves forward. If you already wiped system you get an unknown device error as well. Just click yes.
Thanks a lot hechoen
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When I had the phone I always used valhalla black or barebones for gb
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@hechoen
I've never thought about it and I think I would be a bad MOD since I would delete most things posted here. I'm just annoyed by reading same stuff every time I log in.
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@hechoen
I've never thought about it and I think I would be a bad MOD since I would delete most things posted here. I'm just annoyed by reading same stuff every time I log in.
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So am I. I like the delete idea as well. I was just pointing out that instead of venting in the thread just report it. Trust me I'm just as guilty of it as anyone else but recently I've just been hitting report. It's been mentioned a few times both here and my other devices section as well. Actually the MOD for the Skyrocket forum doesn't allow best threads at all. As soon as one gets created it's locked by him in no time.
You guys need to chill like seriously...
He said and I quote "What would the majority of people here say their favorite GB rom is?"
He did not state in anyway on "What is the best GB rom" he is asking in the majority of people what is their favorite GB rom, mine was SCOM. You people need to read more carefully before trying to flame on the person.
@hechoen
I guess it's better that way.
@th3controller
There's not point with this thread. Simple. But hey, everyone can differ. I'm okay with that.
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You guys need to chill like seriously...
He said and I quote "What would the majority of people here say their favorite GB rom is?"
He did not state in anyway on "What is the best GB rom" he is asking in the majority of people what is their favorite GB rom, mine was SCOM. You people need to read more carefully before trying to flame on the person.
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Really? Who's not chill. Just expressing some opinions on the subject. This might go beyond reading comprehension but you do know that favorite and best are synonyms right?
th3controller said:
You guys need to chill like seriously...
He said and I quote "What would the majority of people here say their favorite GB rom is?"
He did not state in anyway on "What is the best GB rom" he is asking in the majority of people what is their favorite GB rom, mine was SCOM. You people need to read more carefully before trying to flame on the person.
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+1
There are alot of posts i dont agree with....would i be delete happy?....no its cencorship and un american

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